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papillonluvr
06-07-2011, 11:28 AM
I only talk about how much I've made with my best stripper friends.
Ditto
papillonluvr
06-07-2011, 11:37 AM
[QUOTE=BunniHops;2134943]
Girls who are full time students at universities I have noticed don't do as well. I'm not saying that it's impossible or even improbable to be a top earner AND a student. But I took at the very least 5 classes ever since I started dancing and I have to say it does usurp some energy. After I've had a full day of classes, dancing is kind of an added stress. Sometimes after 8 hours of class you don't have the same get up and go as a girl who woke up at 5 pm. Thats just my personal opinion because I feel fatigued often.
It's also not appropriate to suggest a girl gets a "regular job" because she doesn't do as well as YOU, or make as much money as you. That's not your business. If I made less than 100 dollars everyday, yes I would quit stripping. My averages are not high, but they are still much higher than my wages would be at IHOP or Banana Republic. QUOTE]
Well, I was a full-time student to be a teacher (have since graduated with a MA certificate to teach ESL and a BA to teach English) and have consistently beena top-earner. Many of the top earners in my club have some sort of college education or certifications. One of my competition is going to university for nursing! talk about a lot of work.
Also, your earnings may be more than IHOP, but are you paying Social Security, getting any sort of benefits, or even putting away for retirement? If you are, then go ahead and keep doing what you are doing. But if not, it's almost better to go find another job so you are putting money away and getting some benefits and also have a job record for when or if you decide to leave stripping.
babylovexxx
06-07-2011, 11:49 AM
I don't mind if people brag about what they make, if it's more than me I see it as motivation that i know more money is out there to be made and i can do it too. It's the girls that sit around all the night complaining about how LITTLE they make that gets annoying to me. At the end of the day it's what YOU take home that should concern you, and nothing else!!
ZePeanut
06-07-2011, 03:01 PM
I'm with Athena in a way... I too have a bachelors degree (actually two), and this is where life has taken us. I'm ok with it, you're ok with it. We're all in the same boat. I just choose not to develop relationships with other dancers because I never know if they'll be kind souls like you wonderful ladies on is board (excluding trolls!), or jealous and vindictive. Is that bad? I'm not sure.
All of my best friends are girls I work with. We have seriously been there for each other through divorces, custody battles, deaths--some serious shit. You can never base someones disposition sheerly on their line of work=)
AriahsPariah
06-07-2011, 05:10 PM
Am I the only one here who downplays my earnings? I doubt it :)
Power to the silent bankers!
anouk.oui
06-07-2011, 06:37 PM
athena i never said its wrong to make money, just kinda ridiculous competing 'whos the better stripper' and making other feel inferior. what i said has nothing to do with money, i just dont like the fact that some girls who have an okay night once o twice feel its good to install intimidation and fear in others by boasting about their earnings. and im not sure you read the full post or just looked for the alarming bits that would look bitchy without a context, i also said i respect high earners, career dancers and girls who concentrate on doing their job without getting involved with others.
just like how the dude in the big fat greek wedding said "we may be apples, and you are oranges but at the end of the day we're still fruit"
i dont know why you find it so offensive. we're not exactly curing cancer here..
Arianna419
06-07-2011, 07:23 PM
Am I the only one here who downplays my earnings? I doubt it :)
Power to the silent bankers!
I do this. I do it with my best stripper friends because I don't want them to feel bad, get jealous, or assume I'm bragging.
I do it with the other girls because I don't want them to get catty, start drama, talk shit to customers, or view me as competition (even though, of course, we are all each other's competition). Silent banking is awesome.
lokikola
06-07-2011, 07:27 PM
I'm going to tell people nothing! I've realized I am at a ghetto club and I don't want to get mugged by another dancer...
Addison
06-07-2011, 07:58 PM
White collar Vs. No Collar http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee485/qdtxadd/giggle.gif
When other girls ask me how much I made, I just say "decent" or "I'm doing better than I was before I came in" and walk away/change the subject.
arielbriel
06-07-2011, 09:12 PM
Ofcourse, my best stripper friends are also high earners for the most part. We can compare earnings to know if were pretty much on target, slacking, or doing like really well. It helps to know if it's "you" just off that day or if it is actually the crowd not spending.
So Fine Divyne
06-08-2011, 07:17 AM
We can compare earnings to know if were pretty much on target, slacking, or doing like really well. It helps to know if it's "you" just off that day or if it is actually the crowd not spending.
I thought that was what the dance board was for, but I guess if you work at a club that doesn't have a dance board asking is the only way. Although a lot of times we make money of the boards through payment for time. I always seem to be able to tell whether the flow of crowd money is good simply based on who I see in the dressing room. Some girls are constant hustlers and if I see them repeatedly in the 20 mins I am taking to freshen up hair and makeup then the floor is crappy. If it's crowded on weekend after 10pm then the floor is not so good even if it is packed. I automatically ignore all pillbillys because they are always in the dressing room. If the dr is empty then the floor is pretty good. When we have merchandise specials if we are using the overflow rooms its good, if we are only using regular rooms its average.
Natalllia
06-08-2011, 07:29 AM
:D
Am I the only one here who downplays my earnings? I doubt it :)
Power to the silent bankers!
I do this... sort of. When asked "how I did", I don't like to state specific numbers, but I do sometimes downplay it if I did really well. Especially when I'm talking with a girl I'm friendly with who did NOT do well.
If I have a really good night, of course I get excited and want to gloat a little, but I try to save this for the DJ (who knows how much we all earn because he's notified when we're off the floor for dances/VIP, plus it's reflected in his tip - AND he's a long-time friend of mine) or my bf when I get home.
It doesn't make me feel good to make other people feel bad.
^^btw- I don't mean to imply that anyone who discusses her earnings gets off on making other people feel bad. This is just my own perspective, and I can be a little over-sensitive about how I make other people feel sometimes.
As evidenced by this disclaimer, I guess:D
arielbriel
06-08-2011, 09:57 PM
Not all clubs count dances cause they don't all take money from each dance.
I hate talking numbers, & I hate when people ask me what I earn. When I started that was considered RUDE. I don't know what happened to that, but I wish it would go back to the way it was! I get a lot of people that ask me what I make, & I never say exactly...
Ditto what Kylea2 said. I don't talk about money in specifics either.
I don't care where you stand on the leader board at the end of the night and if you're the type of person to brag and boast about your money or the silent killer it makes no difference to me.
If a girl is obnoxious, however, in any profession it is viewed as negative and I'm not talking confidence. I'm talking catty, ignorant, messy, boasting just to get everyone's attention and throw it in everyone's face. It's actually quite sad that these types of people find it necessary to behave in such a manner, but to each its own...
Optimist
06-09-2011, 09:57 AM
athena i never said its wrong to make money, just kinda ridiculous competing 'whos the better stripper' and making other feel inferior. what i said has nothing to do with money, i just dont like the fact that some girls who have an okay night once o twice feel its good to install intimidation and fear in others by boasting about their earnings. and im not sure you read the full post or just looked for the alarming bits that would look bitchy without a context, i also said i respect high earners, career dancers and girls who concentrate on doing their job without getting involved with others.
just like how the dude in the big fat greek wedding said "we may be apples, and you are oranges but at the end of the day we're still fruit"
i dont know why you find it so offensive. we're not exactly curing cancer here..
i been seeing this problem a lot recently having girls who are usually not high earners get quite a bit of money one or two shifts and think theyre the shit and feel as though now they can educate others on the business and demand top girl respect and shit and they been dancing for like 5 months.
so im gonna throw myself in the deep end and risk controversy here.
with all due respect to the high earnrs in this thread along with smart career dancers.
the thing is, yes its irritating, but i dont care if people think theyre top earners now. i think its kinda sad when girls flaunt their 'top earner status'. you make a lot of money as a stripper. boo hoo. majority of these girls are drop outs and live from paycheck to paycheck. your earning potential may top mine, but at the end of the day, you make your money as a sex worker like i do. and i think its sad that sex workers compete with each other about whose the best sex worker and better at lying to men and showing vagina. [yes i know sales, superstripper, blah blah] i have a lot more respect for median earners who are undertaking college studies or preparing to run their business, and making a living through that and being a well-established professional in their field.
doesnt anyone else think this competitive attitude is horseshit?
oh well fire away..
I agree that the pettiness is horseshit. The problem is everyone doesn't see this job as sex work and lying. It's a tired old debate but a valid one. I see the job as acting not sex work. Actors do sex scenes all the time but are still actors. They are creating a scene and walking away. Make the customer feel desired and have an emotional connection. We aren't having sex and it is very much a performance not their real feelings or real sex acts. I get that you'll disagree though. You may make money lying to men but it's not a universal thing to lie to guys in order to get a sale.
Back to the OP, I don't tell anyone what I made anymore. It's bitten me in the ass. I had a work friend I was cool with, hung out with, the whole nine. I respond to her comment about money thinking she's been doing the numbers I was. She wasn't and she became a snarky bitch from then until I distanced myself from her. I had staff members as well as girls gunning for me for the first time last year because I was still doing fine while others were struggling in this crazy economy. I had chicks literally staring, starting arguments, sit that never happened before when everybody did well. Now I'm like a tight lipped ninja. Rarely seen, rarely heard.
anouk.oui
06-10-2011, 07:46 PM
i half agree, optimist, but during my time at film school i learnt acting = lying. sure its about creating a scene but the best actors are those who can completely take on the character and get lost in the scene until you are convinced the acting is not acting, its real. now what do you call that?
its the pettiness of the girls i was getting at, everything else i said was helping me illustrate my point so i dont get a 'you think you better than all strippers' kneejerk reaction. thats the important part, no need to analyse the rest =]
Optimist
06-10-2011, 10:49 PM
You said you respect girls doing other things more than career strippers meaning girls who are not exclusively dancing, right? I think that in addition to the aforementioned things gave that impression. Are you a career stripper or no? I thought you considered yourself a girl who has a side thing going on.
As for people getting lost in the character, I call them delusional! :rotfl: I never tottered off with a dude thinking he really was my lover after a dance or VIP! That would be something else. :D I always thought it was weird to stay in character while on set even when you're not in the freakin' scene. I've heard stories about that. Just weird and unhealthy. :no:
NREXM
06-25-2011, 09:11 PM
I use to be one of those obnoxious top earners when I first started at eighteen probably because I was young, immature, and feeling cocky that I was making more money than girls who have been in the industry for ten+ years.
I only talk about earnings with the other top earner of my club because we make similar amounts. I use to count my money in the dressing room (silently) at the end of the night but I guess I got a lot of negative attention because of it. Honestly, I don't want other dancers to know how much I've made because it causes problems and creates drama. At my club, if you're a top earner you're pretty much considered a whore whether or not you're doing extras. It's not hard to figure out who is making money however, I'd not like to give dancers extra reasons to start drama.
Italian_Bombshell849
07-01-2011, 10:41 PM
I don't like to talk about my money to no one, whether it was a great night or bad. It's no one's business.
I also don't like it when girls come up to me in the dressing room telling me how bad it is upstairs & didn't make shit while i'm getting ready, or hearing them talk out loud about it. That's negative energy I don't need to be around. I need to start brining in my ipod.
I am with Vyanka, I don't like to be around the negative energy. Honestly, I just listen to my music on my phone or iPod. Sometimes, if I am lazy I will just tune it out. The girls all gang up and talk shit about other girls and then smile in their face when the girl that was being bashed walks in. If any of you girls notice that the girls that are in the dressing room, sitting on the makeup counter, smoking a cig, and drinking are the girls that are complaining about how they aren't making any money. I would take breaks every now and then but it it was busy, I was on the floor hustling constantly and relentlessly until every open table is approached. These girls were also the ones that didn't do very much on stage or just go on auto-pilot when they got up there so they looked bored and just spaced out. I think that rubbing what you've got in other girls' faces is really rude and discussing earnings is really inappropriate. I have never been "in your face" about what I made. But then again I have never made anything over $500 (I didn't dance for too long at this one club here in Houston), so it's not like I can go up to a girl that I KNOW does extras and earns a lot more and be like, "1, 2, 3, 4...oh wow! another 100!" That is just retarded.
my lips are sealed!:-X
tempest666
07-02-2011, 12:19 AM
jajajajajajajajajaajjajajaja I was one tonight. I'm fucking hot I have a fantastic ass and if it isn't broke why fix it? I make plenty of $$$$$ being a fucking bitch. Tonight I balled. I am king Shit!
kellyallstar
07-02-2011, 04:50 AM
For the girls who DON'T brag or run their mouth quite obviously about how much they made that night, and how they don't understand why other girls don't...
umm there could be so many reasons why they do it...but what can I say?...it used to bring me down, but then I guess I tuned out. Coz I knew the nights when I did great and they sucked. Inside yeah I was like hahahaha, but I'm not a hater and it's not a competition for me I was there to work, not get my ego stroked.
Corey
07-03-2011, 09:54 PM
Am I the only one here who downplays my earnings? I doubt it :)
Power to the silent bankers!
^
I do this too. I really like to be very low profile. I feel more comfortable if my co-workers think I don't make that much.
Hollysmoke
07-18-2011, 02:09 AM
I work in Australia and there are a fair few Asian girls here who I'm sure do well because they are somebody's type. I'm tall, blonde and have fake boobs and I would make similar money to these girls. Obviously it's all about picking your customers and if I can tell I'm not someone's type (I'm certainly no Asian sensation) I mOve on and don't waste my time.
chanzep
07-18-2011, 05:43 AM
I count my money in private , I don't like girls seeing how much I earn.
Pumkin
07-23-2011, 11:32 AM
Am I the only one here who downplays my earnings? I doubt it :)
Power to the silent bankers!
Not at all... Although I'm still relatively new at my club, I've been coming out as top earner frequently. I see it as if you downplay your earnings, the other ladies won't see you as huge competition and try harder.... A bit of a mind game you'd be playing but whose business is it anyways? ;)
gia LA
07-24-2011, 05:53 AM
i think asking how much someone made or boasting about it is rude. i have friends who ask me almost every night and every night i give them a very vague "i did good/not as well as i hoped" kind of answer. i totally understand where the OP is coming from. i used to have a friend that would ask how i did and then tell me exactly how she did. and she would also throw near tantrums if she felt i was doing better than her...if i'm not doing well and i see a top earner hit her stride i do try and learn but i would never ask her specifically how much she makes a night or even someone who isn't doing well at all. it's none of my business and it's fucking tacky.
gia LA
07-24-2011, 05:57 AM
I count my money in private , I don't like girls seeing how much I earn.
haha me too!!! i did that today...i usually throw my stage money in my dancer's bag and don't worry about it til i get home but tonight i had to get into it because i didn't want to HAVE to break larger bills...(i didn't do that great ladies for a saturday though good for working 4hours...anyways)...
but my point is that i count my money at the end of my shift in the smoke room if no one is there...if there is someone in there i will just wait til i get home or until it's free depending on how lond the check out line is.
Emanuelle
03-17-2013, 08:14 AM
Maybe they aren't trying to be bitchy. Maybe they are trying to be motivating and telling you that the potential to make 5 times what your making is there, and if they are all doing it so can you. One club I worked in the housemom announced girls who made big money, not by name, but she'd say "3 girls made $4,000 tonight, and 4 others made $2500". She said if we all knew that kind of money was being made we'd try harder to make it for ourselves. You wouldn't have been hired if the manager didn't think you were as attractive as all the other girls. In the past I've gotten mad at girls who tried to tell me how to make more money because I felt like they were insulting me, but once I swallowed my pride and listened to them I started making tons more money. I've been on the other side of it too, when I hear a totally beautiful girl say she hasn't made more than $300 since she started I always speak up and say there's no reason she should ever leave with less than $1000, or $1500, or whatever I would give her if I were a lonely guy. I never say it to be rude, I just want these girls to know that they deserve more and shouldn't settle. Maybe the next time one of the girls tells you she made a lot you can ask her what she's doing that you aren't. There is enough money in these clubs for everyone to walk out flush every night. Sometimes you just have to learn to tweak your routine to fit that particular club. Certain customers gravitate to certain clubs because they prefer the way things work in those clubs. If you learn how work each club to your advantage then you can maximize your potential.
Emanuelle
03-17-2013, 09:00 AM
well im thrilled to see that you think so little about the line of work that you and almost every other girl on this board do.
seriously. maybe if you had a more positive outlook on it you would make more money?
this reminds me of the customers who are all "you are too good/smart/pretty/etc to be here". if you think there is shame in entertaining and showing your boobs and vagina for money, then dont do it. bottom line.
and for the record, i am a top earner in SC and i am also a college grad who graduated with a solid gpa. i take as much pride in being a top earner at the strip club as i do in the fact that i have a degree in math. just because one of them is white collar and one of them is naked collar doesnt mean one is better than the other . maybe by society's standards... but society can bite me. i aint want shit to do with them anyway.
Totally. I have been a dancer for a long time and I have become very good at it. I went to college and now I have my own business. I'm not ashamed to be a dancer, and I've never thought of myself as someone who can't do anything else in life because I'm "just a stripper". I learned to become a high earner because I like to be the best. I doubt any of the dancers who work in clubs would let their friends or anyone else outside the club tell them that their lives amount to nothing because they are nothing but a stripper with no future, so why do we say it about ourselves and our coworkers? It simply isn't true. I know I'm beautiful and have a great personality, so I know men will want to pay for my companionship and seduction. I also know that is only one facet of me. I am also smart, organized, and ambitious. I don't have to choose which one I want to be, I can be the best at everything if I'm willing to work hard. It's ridiculous to say that because I'm good at my job I have no future anywhere else, or that I must be willing to do more than other girls. Those comments aren't really about high earners, or even strippers in general, they are about the girls making the comments. They are saying that they are too lazy to figure out how to be the best so they'd rather make up an excuse about why they can't be better at their job so they don't have to try to be successful, or feel bad about being unsuccessful. I'm sorry for the girls who have such little self esteem that they feel their choices are forced on them, but I don't want them speaking for me. I'm proud of my choices. My choices make me feel free and independent.