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Marleysade
07-08-2011, 08:27 PM
do you stream with the encoder, or at least with your settings set to 640x480HD? otherwise your cam probably looks like crap to customers. have your customers confirmed that your sound works? what are you charging? do you offer toys, etc.? what hours do you work? (it's completely dead for me in the middle of the night, i've made $6 in 3 hrs before working super super late/early.)
i mean, i have had plenty of $12/hr days on streamate - i don't make nearly as much as some other sw girls - but still, that shouldn't be the norm. just checking to see if there might be a technical reason why it isn't working for you. i hope it picks up for you!
hey babe i wouldnt even trip on the party chat it doesnt make a difference
AudrinaCams
07-08-2011, 09:16 PM
SM is dead for me. A lot of 31 second men.. LOL stupid
tropicalust
07-09-2011, 11:56 AM
I just think that party chat has affected traffic for people not so popular
Smurfette
07-09-2011, 12:19 PM
Traffic is great for me this morning! :)
I think it's mostly because I'm in the pregnant category now. See, you girls just need to get pregnant, then traffic will get better! hehe.
charlottenh
07-09-2011, 02:21 PM
Since finally getting the HD encoder issue sorted out (I wasn't showing up as HD) my traffic and money has nearly doubled. I went from $25-35 an hour to $45-$60hr. I'm pretty happy with those numbers, but I often wonder if I should have listed myself in "shemales" vs what I am in now, which is "transgender". Less girls online, but if this is how much I am making and I am the first girl on the page, who knows what kind of cash I might have gotten in the other category.
On another note, this guy came in with a very specific fetish, and I asked him to go to exclusive instead of private like 3 times before the session started (because I didn't want to lose other guys who wouldn't be into that sort of show). He then goes into private and I get like 5 other guys in the room, so I do my normal thing, and he gives me 2 stars. Kind of annoyed. I dropped half a star because of him :/
kittykrane
07-09-2011, 05:55 PM
The encoder will make a difference in your traffic. Glad to hear Charlotte!
cherryfay
07-10-2011, 12:23 AM
Worked from 9-12
Was kinda dead for awhile had a few short pvts.. Then a guy who says he is in love with me takes me in pvt for 45 min.
Was very nice ended up making.. 97.85 today :)
I need this dude everyday
ty for the tips! I guess I'll be sure to remind them to rate me good when they leave :D
Marleysade
07-10-2011, 03:33 AM
Getting better Im doing dome now so it easier! lol
kittykrane
07-10-2011, 09:37 AM
I LOVE SUNDAYS! Thankfully I had the house to myself for a change. Mostly privates and just 2 party chats and they weren't even big money makers...didn't hit my (very reasonable) goal on either and they weren't that high.... still made out banking my highest hourly yet ($187 in just over 2 hours) and I am NOT a top row gal...first page, yes, but more toward the middle or bottom. I was bitchier than usual, that must have helped. I could have stayed on longer but I can only handle so much of these guys at a time.
Smurfette
07-10-2011, 11:04 AM
I raised my prices this morning and so far it's working out really well! I've already made over $100 in only 1.5 hours! My goal for today is $300... I hope I can reach it.
luxi_kitty
07-10-2011, 11:06 AM
I raised my prices this morning and so far it's working out really well! I've already made over $100 in only 1.5 hours! My goal for today is $300... I hope I can reach it.
Awesome goal!
Good Luck my dear!!;D
tinydancer23
07-10-2011, 03:03 PM
so far, 2 hrs 5 mins, just shy of $80. taking a dinner break. i'm going to try for $200 today since it actually seems doable...this is my best day on sm in ages. on the downside, the only rating i've gotten today was a 2 :( my first rating below a five on my daily pay profile and it pisses me off because i think the guy who did it was being completely unclear on what he wanted (he was like "put the vibrating toy in your pussy bb" - i have FOUR TOYS THAT VIBRATE and i put all of them in and he was like "not that one!" every fucking time. asshole). but still...i'm averaging almost $40/hr which i haven't done in AGES...i will take it :)
TheBrownFox
07-10-2011, 04:41 PM
Congrats to you ladies who are achieving your goals on SM! :)
I did a lil better than I had been. But this one guy had to eventually get banned, because he was too persistent with his "Give me a call when you get off cam" nonsense. I even gave him a warning and said "You seem like a nice guy, so I'm gonna tell you one last time....." and he was like "You won't even give me a chance just because this is a cam site." So I said "You know what? You're outta here" and I banned him. Boohoo!
If you're looking for the right girl, join Match.com or get out of the house and have a social life...don't bother cam girls who are trying to work. Some of these guys need to get real. LOL.
Smurfette
07-10-2011, 04:55 PM
Yay! I made my goal! *happy dance*
kittykrane
07-10-2011, 07:24 PM
Congrats to you ladies who are achieving your goals on SM! :)
I did a lil better than I had been. But this one guy had to eventually get banned, because he was too persistent with his "Give me a call when you get off cam" nonsense. I even gave him a warning and said "You seem like a nice guy, so I'm gonna tell you one last time....." and he was like "You won't even give me a chance just because this is a cam site." So I said "You know what? You're outta here" and I banned him. Boohoo!
If you're looking for the right girl, join Match.com or get out of the house and have a social life...don't bother cam girls who are trying to work. Some of these guys need to get real. LOL.
I know, I hate that. I have one that has followed me from imlive begging to meet. He knows I'm atached too! I have not banned him yet so I just keep on avoiding the topic since he is spending in my party chats and encouraging others to chip in.
Marleysade
07-11-2011, 02:52 AM
Yay! I made my goal! *happy dance*
Good for you girl would it be ok if i watch your show to get pointers? you seem to do very well on the site
alexxxi
07-11-2011, 05:33 AM
I logged into SM on Friday night for the first time in two weeks since they introduced the party chat. I was worried that the traffic would be slow, but I had a great hour and a half - $102.
And, for the first time, I had a guy take me exclusive and actually spend some time talking with me before any clothing came off. :D
Saturday night I went on during my usual time, from 7:00 to 9:00. I had to weed through a lot of beggers to get to the "normal" SM crowd. I banned four people, which is a lot for me. I made $40. I went on again at 11:00 and sat in free chat for over half an hour. I've never had to wait for than 5 minutes in free chat before someone takes me private. OMG I had to deal with so many idiots. I had two of them clear my room after taking me private for less than 30 seconds.
So I tried again at 1:00 am and made $125 in an hour.
I have found that the 10:00-12:00 hours on Saturday suck most of the time, but the crowd at SM is definitely different. Thankfully, the guys who are used to SM are still there and will pay for their experience. I want all the others to go away. >:(
kittykrane
07-11-2011, 09:23 AM
After 3 party chats and a sore ass, I can say it was a good couple of hours :)
I even made my premium rate a wee bit more than my exclusive and I'm surprised that guys were actually still picking premium over the cheaper exclusive..that's too funny.
Smurfette
07-11-2011, 10:02 AM
Good for you girl would it be ok if i watch your show to get pointers? you seem to do very well on the site
Sure! My name is PennyHume and I'll be on for the next 3 hours or so. I don't really have much of a hustle though. I just kinda lay around until someone takes me private. lol.
MrsHollyDDD
07-11-2011, 07:55 PM
So I was on from Sunday night around 11:45 PM till this morning around 5:30...my traffic was horrible! I was streaming in HD and the guys kept coming in and out of my room. I finally asked why everyone was jumping around so much and the guy said that the screen kept freezing... jeeze! So I logged off and did not use the encoder when I logged back on. Traffic was so slow an I never had more than 8 guys in my room, averaging around 4 guys. I worked a solid 3 hours and made $20. I don't know what was up. I am in the BBW category and Big Tits as well and I looked at Streamate and there were like 18 girls doing BBW at the same time as me. Typically I have the busiest BBW room when I am on. I did look at some of the other girls and they had 0-2 people in at a given time. I have noticed that Sundays are slow.
I need to start getting stern with my guests. I had this guy last nightwho for an hour kept bugging me about how it was his first time on and he wasn't feeling right cuz he is married. I am going to start being a bitch and say "Honey, we either need to go to private or you are going to have to keep moving because everyone in this room can see your conversation." I am not afraid to use the kick out button!
KushKandi
07-11-2011, 09:38 PM
Yay!! Finally I'm back to making the same money again. I don't understand the 'dry spell' I had for 2 weeks but everything is normal again. =D
Marleysade
07-12-2011, 12:25 AM
Yay!! Finally I'm back to making the same money again. I don't understand the 'dry spell' I had for 2 weeks but everything is normal again. =D
Good! Good Good! Now Lets hope the same for me...I made 30 dollar in 2 1/2 hours on mfc so SM better be good!
cherryfay
07-12-2011, 12:57 AM
78.00 in a bout 2 hrs tonight.
:) not too shabby
God, I love block pvts!
kittykrane
07-12-2011, 05:18 AM
So I was on from Sunday night around 11:45 PM till this morning around 5:30...my traffic was horrible! I was streaming in HD and the guys kept coming in and out of my room. I finally asked why everyone was jumping around so much and the guy said that the screen kept freezing... jeeze! So I logged off and did not use the encoder when I logged back on. Traffic was so slow an I never had more than 8 guys in my room, averaging around 4 guys. I worked a solid 3 hours and made $20. I don't know what was up. I am in the BBW category and Big Tits as well and I looked at Streamate and there were like 18 girls doing BBW at the same time as me. Typically I have the busiest BBW room when I am on. I did look at some of the other girls and they had 0-2 people in at a given time. I have noticed that Sundays are slow.
I need to start getting stern with my guests. I had this guy last nightwho for an hour kept bugging me about how it was his first time on and he wasn't feeling right cuz he is married. I am going to start being a bitch and say "Honey, we either need to go to private or you are going to have to keep moving because everyone in this room can see your conversation." I am not afraid to use the kick out button!
Watch out for the ones that say they feel guilty because they are married, especially if it appears they are trying to engage you in a conversation about it. I've had ones like that who nut over that kind of talk, it excites them. If he feels that bad, he shouldn't even be on the site. Tell him to come back when he is ready to pay and kick him out.
~Carmen~
07-12-2011, 06:56 AM
Yesterday was okay for a Monday. I love when guys try this trick. He comes in and tells me his wife just got home so then I see "Hi, this is Susan! Can I see your tits before we go private?" Cracks me up what these guys think we will fall for! First of all, I know it was him typing. Plus, I could care less if you're a girl. I'm not working for free.
TheBrownFox
07-12-2011, 07:54 AM
SM is a joke for me right now. NO ONE tipped me or took me private, and I've been on cam (bra and panty) bouncing up and down on my fitness ball, etc. Some cheapass just now bitched about my $3.99 price, and I told him I get a VERY small percentage of that. He said that my rate is higher than other models, and I shook my head and told him that's not true...lmao.
Sorry, but I'm not going any lower than 3.99.....you fucking kidding me??? These dudes would bitch even if the rate was $0.99/min...they're not fooling me one bit.
Oh, and it's tacky when guys come to the room to complain about our prices. Don't like it? Go to the next model, though chances are she's charging more than 3.99.
I got the place all to myself today, but haven't made a cent on here yet this morning. I'll probably be on and off throughout the day. I can't be in SM free chat for several hours at a time...I would lose my mind...
I think I'm liking MFC a lot more than SM.
kittykrane
07-12-2011, 09:55 AM
I hardly EVER get tipped so it's not just you. Maybe they are saving their tip money for party chats? I worked an hour this am only doing privates then called it quits. I was only going to do a party chat if I came up short in my goal, but I didn't have too.
I'm in the $4 range for both chats and no one complains. I offer a hell of a lot and I'm positive others are charging way more for exclusive pvt than I am.
Once you get party chat, that is your sale price. They get what they pay for, tell 'em that!
SexySadie120
07-12-2011, 11:37 AM
SM is a joke for me right now. NO ONE tipped me or took me private, and I've been on cam (bra and panty) bouncing up and down on my fitness ball, etc.
damn, judging by your pic I'd be throwing money at you :3
I just got on for an hour because i heard this time was good, and I only made $10.
But, I'm still glad that even when it's slow I can usually make minimum wage. taking a break then trying again, even though i'm dreading it.
sweetheather
07-12-2011, 11:42 AM
I'm getting on around 2, hoping it's better than yesterday, I didn't make a dime despite having quite a bit of traffic.
TheBrownFox
07-12-2011, 12:10 PM
damn, judging by your pic I'd be throwing money at you :3
Thank you, Sadie. :)
My son is at Kings Dominion right now, so I have total privacy and am glad I can go crazy on cam sites (in other words, I can be as loud as I want...hehe) til he returns tomorrow. Actually, I still haven't eaten today, because I was on SM and then AW for a lil bit (I actually did a paid show on AW today...yay!).
I was on SM for maybe 3 or 3 1/2 hours and made $26.83. I got disconnected from SM like TWICE while in private with this one guy, and luckily he was understanding and said he'd give me a good rating. I don't what the fuck was up with me getting that SM error message though...that was very frustrating.
Some chef.timothy guy sent me a message telling me to add him on Skype. When I said I don't do Skype for free, he was asking about PayPal...haha. I told him no thanks, and that he can take me private on SM if he wants a show. Hopefully he gets the message, otherwise he'll be another time-waster I'll end up banning. I don't care if other models accept PayPal...I'm not about to make it easy for some guy to rip me off and wind up with a FREE cam show. Ain't gonna happen.....
Luxi_kitty came to my room and we chatted a bit (she's cool...I like her!). 8)
I'll get back on SM tonight. Right now I'm about to order some food. This is my first time eating all day.
LilMissNaughty
07-12-2011, 02:31 PM
This is weird. I've been on SM for over 20 minutes now and no one has even entered my room and the couple of people that did before that didnt even bother to say hi. I've had it be slow before but never where nobody at all comes in my room for this length of time
sweetheather
07-12-2011, 02:55 PM
I've stopped getting on when the tops girls are. DiamondJames just did a party chat 8 minutes for $4. I simply can't compete with that.
LilMissNaughty
07-12-2011, 03:00 PM
I've stopped getting on when the tops girls are. DiamondJames just did a party chat 8 minutes for $4. I simply can't compete with that.
I see what you mean..I just checked out who was on. I think I'll try to work around certain ones to because when the most popular ones with the huge following come on and do PC there is literally nobody in my room and since I opened a new account for dp I'm probably on page 50 lol
sweetheather
07-12-2011, 03:01 PM
She had like 90 people in her room, I just wait until they log off
BellaBellini
07-12-2011, 03:17 PM
Alexis Texas just started a 60 minute live sex show. $15 for the hour, so I think people are going to be busy for a little bit;p
laurielegs
07-12-2011, 04:10 PM
Alexis Texas just started a 60 minute live sex show. $15 for the hour, so I think people are going to be busy for a little bit;p
That is just ridiculously low.
I really don't get it. Why the hell is she underpricing herself so badly? and damn, I would HATE to do such a long show for so little. I realize you can get a lot of guys in for a low price but look at it from their end - you are giving them a show for a QUARTER a minute, their cost, wtf!!! I don't even want to think how little she gets of that money, makes me sick.
LilMissNaughty
07-12-2011, 04:12 PM
I wouldnt want to be trapped in private and listen to the "bb" guys for an hour...yucky!
BellaBellini
07-12-2011, 04:31 PM
That is just ridiculously low.
I really don't get it. Why the hell is she underpricing herself so badly? and damn, I would HATE to do such a long show for so little. I realize you can get a lot of guys in for a low price but look at it from their end - you are giving them a show for a QUARTER a minute, their cost, wtf!!! I don't even want to think how little she gets of that money, makes me sick.
I think they are funding their shooting expenses with the money. They set a ridiculous goal of $9999 but were just approaching $1000 when they went into party chat. I assume more people joined in once it started.
But you can bet they were recording the live show and will post it on her site, which hopefully she makes money from. I read one well known porn star, I forget her name, saying that she doesn't have to pay out of pocket for locations or male talent now that she streams all her shoots.
So yes, she could earn more money than that. But the mainstream LA hardcore porn scene is struggling right now. They have to find ways to pay to shoot otherwise they won't shoot at all.
IMO shows like this aren't competition for us because not all guys are looking for a porn star all the time. Sure the traffic dies down when they have a porn star show. So you just have to keep your eyes on the schedule.
BellaBellini
07-12-2011, 04:32 PM
I wouldnt want to be trapped in private and listen to the "bb" guys for an hour...yucky!
omg you just brought back memories of the member shows I did through Camz. And I just got traffic and maybe a few sign ups for that. 500 people in a room typing bb fuck your ass is my own personal version of cam girl hell.
laurielegs
07-12-2011, 04:40 PM
So yes, she could earn more money than that. But the mainstream LA hardcore porn scene is struggling right now. They have to find ways to pay to shoot otherwise they won't shoot at all.
IMO shows like this aren't competition for us because not all guys are looking for a porn star all the time. Sure the traffic dies down when they have a porn star show. So you just have to keep your eyes on the schedule.
Yes, I think you are right about that. If a guy wants you in particular he wants you, period.
Interesting strategy she is using though. Thanks for the insight.
badcompany
07-12-2011, 09:13 PM
I'm glad it's not just me. I was on SM this morning from 7:30am to 12:30pm. It took me the whole 5 hrs to make $108! OMFG, I only had 2 exclusives out of all of it. I worked my ass off for it too. I changed complete outfits 4 times, put on and took off pantyhose twice. I was sweating.
It's rediculous. I would have 10 people in my room and no one would go pvt. They just wanted to chit chat....so boring. I talked a little dirty trying to get em on in and I think I made a couple of the losers cum. Just minute men.
And what's up with the influx of the question: "Do you escort?" In the past 2 weeks I have gotten this question alot. Today I was asked like 5 times.....Weird.
I so hope today will be better.
TinaLayne
07-12-2011, 10:36 PM
omg you just brought back memories of the member shows I did through Camz. And I just got traffic and maybe a few sign ups for that. 500 people in a room typing bb fuck your ass is my own personal version of cam girl hell.
Ohmahgawd...I used to be on camz too....a couple years ago before they changed everything. That was my 1st cam site actually, then they "revamped" the site and pretty much killed it.
cherryfay
07-13-2011, 02:33 AM
Traffic earlier today at like 7 central time sucked balls..
Logged off and back on at 9 central time,
Ended up making 78.00 from 9- 11... Not so bad.!
Also got an amazing exclusive of a guy that just wanted to talk to me... Just my face.. Didn't even wanna see my bra! Lasted 40 min... My fav privates. They make up for the bad ones.
englishgal
07-13-2011, 03:36 AM
I dont know if this has anything to do with the slow traffic on SM but for the last couple of days i have noticed that when you first pull up the SM homepage all the top models are on the first page etc (HD, sound, 5 stars etc etc) then if you say, click on one (not logged in) and then click back to home to list the models again the page has completely changed and the models on there dont have HD, sound, high stars etc etc (the ones not normally on the first few pages) and all the 'top' girls normally on page 1 have disappeared to page 5 or 6 along with all the partychat girls!!
I thought this might be just because i wasn't logged in as a guest so i logged in on my guest account and the same thing happened - after clicking on one model, went back to 'home' and the top girls and partychat girls etc had all moved to page 6...../:O No idea whats going on there!!
BritishBecky
07-13-2011, 03:56 AM
I've been struggling with both traffic and $$$
in the times I would normally do well last night I only made about two thirds of my normal $ (over two hours) and my party chats were not filling up :(
I've noticed that my listing has dropped from top row to second row - with other girls who do party chat all day now having overtaken me. I'm on hols for the rest of this week but I guess next week I just need to put in a lot more hours and try to work my way back up to the top row.
PurpleSkye
07-13-2011, 08:47 AM
And what's up with the influx of the question: "Do you escort?" In the past 2 weeks I have gotten this question alot. Today I was asked like 5 times.....Weird.
I get this question ALL THE TIME!! I'm so over hearing it, where are you bb? Can we meet up, I pay you etc etc. If we were escorts, why the hell would we cam? So annoying!
Traffic's been slow for me too, there's even times when I have 0 people in my room for a few minutes.. it's eerie.
Kaylen
07-13-2011, 11:00 AM
Since finally getting the HD encoder issue sorted out (I wasn't showing up as HD) my traffic and money has nearly doubled. I went from $25-35 an hour to $45-$60hr. I'm pretty happy with those numbers, but I often wonder if I should have listed myself in "shemales" vs what I am in now, which is "transgender". Less girls online, but if this is how much I am making and I am the first girl on the page, who knows what kind of cash I might have gotten in the other category.
wow, congrats that is a very high hourly average! (working on imlive I upgraded from a completely laughable computer to a *slightly* better but still pathetic and my hrly went up from 10-15 to very steady 25 or even 30$ on the same day so it def makes a dif) I guess I will resist upping my rate to 4$/min until I get a new comp.
if you would change to "shemale" IMHO you would be getting more morons/beggars (due to the nature of the word lol) my intuition tells me, who knows if more sales, but if you do it would be interesting to compare.
Erikaxstacy
07-17-2011, 12:39 PM
sm is a joke for me right now. No one tipped me or took me private, and i've been on cam (bra and panty) bouncing up and down on my fitness ball, etc. Some cheapass just now bitched about my $3.99 price, and i told him i get a very small percentage of that. He said that my rate is higher than other models, and i shook my head and told him that's not true...lmao.
Sorry, but i'm not going any lower than 3.99.....you fucking kidding me??? These dudes would bitch even if the rate was $0.99/min...they're not fooling me one bit.
Oh, and it's tacky when guys come to the room to complain about our prices. Don't like it? Go to the next model, though chances are she's charging more than 3.99.
I got the place all to myself today, but haven't made a cent on here yet this morning. I'll probably be on and off throughout the day. I can't be in sm free chat for several hours at a time...i would lose my mind...
I think i'm liking mfc a lot more than sm.
never undercut yourself....those use to be my prices and i went way up for exclusive. 9.99 if you want me to roleplay, talk to me, me watch them suck their own dick (btw yuk) i have one guy who sucks on a screwdriver then one who stabs himself in the stomach and wants me to tell him to do more.....im like "are u trying to kill yourself? Give me a contact number or where your from in case you really do damage" these guys are going to pay the price for putting me thru their mental problems...
They come in party chat and want a dollar 10 min show....ok we can party chat for a dollar and when we enter.."ok what would u like to chat about" they type in "use toys" "finger urself".....oh "im sorry but all of you paid one dollar for party chat i will sit here nude and always remember you get what you pay for...if u want a show pay me show prices or leave and ty for the buck chuck" that kicks them in place..i do the same on mfc..they either leave or pay up...we have bills just like they do. We have families just like they do. I work hard for my money just like they do. I dont work hard if im not getting paid..its a simple fact. I havent cammed a sunday during the day in a long time..i find sunday nights are good..if "pc" hasn't effected that too. Im keeping my fingers crossed for you baby girl and all the models going thru hell....kisses love
exquizit
07-17-2011, 12:58 PM
I was having a sucky time too, but then i realized it was my own fault i was saying pay me pay me and wasn't looking like i was enjoying my self i layed down got close up on the cam started chatting and didn't have less than 15 in my room, and actually started a couple gold shows
Erikaxstacy
07-17-2011, 01:22 PM
sm is a joke for me right now. No one tipped me or took me private, and i've been on cam (bra and panty) bouncing up and down on my fitness ball, etc. Some cheapass just now bitched about my $3.99 price, and i told him i get a very small percentage of that. He said that my rate is higher than other models, and i shook my head and told him that's not true...lmao.
Sorry, but i'm not going any lower than 3.99.....you fucking kidding me??? These dudes would bitch even if the rate was $0.99/min...they're not fooling me one bit.
Oh, and it's tacky when guys come to the room to complain about our prices. Don't like it? Go to the next model, though chances are she's charging more than 3.99.
I got the place all to myself today, but haven't made a cent on here yet this morning. I'll probably be on and off throughout the day. I can't be in sm free chat for several hours at a time...i would lose my mind...
I think i'm liking mfc a lot more than sm.
never undercut yourself....those use to be my prices and i went way up for exclusive. 9.99 if you want me to roleplay, talk to me, me watch them suck their own dick (btw yuk) i have one guy who sucks on a screwdriver then one who stabs himself in the stomach and wants me to tell him to do more.....im like "are u trying to kill yourself? Give me a contact number or where your from in case you really do damage" these guys are going to pay the price for putting me thru their mental problems...
They come in party chat and want a dollar 10 min show....ok we can party chat for a dollar and when we enter.."ok what would u like to chat about" they type in "use toys" "finger urself".....oh "im sorry but all of you paid one dollar for party chat i will sit here nude and always remember you get what you pay for...if u want a show pay me show prices or leave and ty for the buck chuck" that kicks them in place..i do the same on mfc..they either leave or pay up...we have bills just like they do. We have families just like they do. I work hard for my money just like they do. I dont work hard if im not getting paid..its a simple fact. I havent cammed a sunday during the day in a long time..i find sunday nights are good..if "pc" hasn't effected that too. Im keeping my fingers crossed for you baby girl and all the models going thru hell....kisses love