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SarahTime
06-23-2013, 05:56 PM
From speaking with someone at Streamate in the past{don't ask me who, I never know who I am speaking with}, this is what I know about the way it works. There are some girls who are anchors, meaning their spot is anchored in place. The perfect example is the reservation for X amount of spots for pornstars, x amount of spots for studios and x amount of spots for top performers who have a track record or a precedent they have set and no one has broken it yet (JC and AF are two that come to mind. Hope it's ok to post that!). Then there are the high earners who are anchored from say spot 15 to 25. The high earner is going to float within her range depending on how many anchors are on cam. If there are only 10 anchors on then the high earner will default to spot 11 to 14 but maintain her range of 15 to 25 as different performers log on and off or are sent to the back for private sessions. From spots 15 to 25 are another set of ranged earners and so on and so fourth. The ranges are actually broader than that but I don't know exactly what they are. I do hope you are right about reverting back. Unfortunately for me this hasn't happened yet. I thank my lucky stars for regulars because I somehow managed to pull off $375 last night despite my issues ---- which I sure as fuck hope sends a clear message that there are some girls who can make money no matter where they are on the site.
Clearly I am not an anchor, just a floater. My spot isn't fixed in place. My spot is earned. It's unfortunate, as a couple of have voiced though, that we aren't given our due credit and certain performers are reigning in on something they haven't earned. It makes me sick to know I can be bumped out of my range once the glitch is corrected for the fact that I was swapped out by a glitch which will reflect on my next 90, 30 and 7 day review.
This is great information, and makes a lot of sense!!! Thank you so much for sharing this.
Placement is so puzzling at SM.
SarahTime
06-23-2013, 05:57 PM
Sarah, I didn't go back to the old settings that night because after all that shit I immediately ditched SM to go elsewhere! Although next time I try to broadcast with SM I am going to try the old settings again, (if I still have them on my comp! O_O) and hopefully I'll get my placement back with that. :S
I have the old settings saved to a file you can just load into the encoder if you, or anyone else, needs them!
Incantatious
06-23-2013, 06:01 PM
^ That would be an actual lifesaver...
I'd verrrry much appreciate them! Thank you so much! :)
DoodlebugBites
06-23-2013, 06:10 PM
i was watching AF today and she told the room she only drops in like once a day to do a gold show and then she logs off and she 'doesnt work the site and just sits here all day she does one gold show and thats it she logs off' but shes always in the top row. like really...? and her goals are always so low like 200 or something thats like $70 in her pocket and she gives away so many full DVDs for the pledges like 4 bucks or something i really dont get why she even does it.
Just FYI the SM twitter guy called her out on the DVD thing. Of course, he tweeted at her account that hasn't been active since last August, but at least it is on their radar. They also called out a KGB model for selling a computer or something (what is SM the new Radio Shack?), so studios are not immune to the rules, perhaps.
Snowy0Star
06-23-2013, 06:44 PM
In case anyone else needs them i put the link for my google doc with the post widescreen encoder settings in my siggy. wasnt my idea tempting is genius and thats why we love her =^Y^=
Marina Starr
06-23-2013, 06:49 PM
If I downloaded the file, will it switch me to the new setting? I'm still using the one setting and don't want to lose it.
In case anyone else needs them i put the link for my google doc with the post widescreen encoder settings in my siggy. wasnt my idea tempting is genius and thats why we love her =^Y^=
Snowy0Star
06-23-2013, 06:53 PM
its the same file u download off the sm website i just have it uploaded into a google doc so ppl can download it and use it like normal so if u upload it into the encoder i would think if u dinked around with the settings after u upload it into the encoder the first time it would change everything back to the "defaults" that are "programmed" into the file if that makes sense
temptingmodel
06-23-2013, 07:40 PM
(what is SM the new Radio Shack?) LOL that is funny
SarahTime
06-23-2013, 07:55 PM
Just FYI the SM twitter guy called her out on the DVD thing. Of course, he tweeted at her account that hasn't been active since last August, but at least it is on their radar. They also called out a KGB model for selling a computer or something (what is SM the new Radio Shack?), so studios are not immune to the rules, perhaps.
There is a couple on right now selling raffle tickets for....... home made cookies.
I mean..... seriously?
Nothing against this couple or anything.... or anyone else who wants to do raffles and sell things.... but SM is not the site for it. MFC, yes. SM, no. Why don't performers who like to sell tangible items just go to MFC or another site where they would be more successful since the customers are more into that sort of thing and NOT be breaking the rules...?
Incantatious
06-23-2013, 08:05 PM
Fuck it. I'm going to use SM to sell my childhood collection of plush animals and take requests for guys to commission "naughty" knitted items like a knitted penis or whatever. On Friday nights there will be a vote to see how many hits it takes for me for to smash a piñata filled with dildos and the one with a special sticker on it will be the dildo I use to pop balloons containing raffle tickets for raffle tickets for a cum show. That will be my life from now on.
VoluptiousBriadda
06-23-2013, 08:21 PM
LOL computers? Home-made cookies? Apparently they're confusing the site for HSN - watch out Home Shopping Network,"Ho Shopping Network" is taking over! I guess someone misunderstood when guys were referring to their "goodies" and "cookies" in free :P
You know who's gonna be jerking off for free to all that home-baked goodness? Yep,this dude right here
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That's an "O face" if I've ever seen one!
justanothercamgirl
06-23-2013, 08:28 PM
LOL computers? Home-made cookies? Apparently they're confusing the site for HSN - watch out Home Shopping Network,"Ho Shopping Network" is taking over! I guess someone misunderstood when guys were referring to their "goodies" and "cookies" in free :P
You know who's gonna be jerking off for free to all that home-baked goodness? Yep,this dude right here
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That's an "O face" if I've ever seen one!
There is so much comedy genius in this post that it would be a damn shame for me NOT to siggy it. ;)
Snowy0Star
06-23-2013, 08:30 PM
There is so much comedy genius in this post that it would be a damn shame for me NOT to siggy it. ;)
shes on a roll tonight i edited my siggy with one of her post tonight too
catgirl
06-23-2013, 08:33 PM
oops nvm thx sn0wy<3 :)
Cam_Model_Jess
06-24-2013, 07:01 AM
There is a couple on right now selling raffle tickets for....... home made cookies.
I mean..... seriously?
Nothing against this couple or anything.... or anyone else who wants to do raffles and sell things.... but SM is not the site for it. MFC, yes. SM, no. Why don't performers who like to sell tangible items just go to MFC or another site where they would be more successful since the customers are more into that sort of thing and NOT be breaking the rules...?
I saw that. Insane. Being on c4s, I immediately thought "shit cookies" but considering the performer, there's no way that's the case. Then I thought "pot cookies," but again, doesn't make sense for them. Then I realized: OMG, they're really selling REGULAR homemade cookies. And the funny thing is, with the Twitter guy "watching out for that stuff" lately, I doubt he missed it. I've just had to accept that overall SM doesn't really care what you do on there. As more and more models do this sort of thing, it will become harder for SM to enforce the rules.
space_cowgirl
06-24-2013, 08:16 AM
Honestly, I think that the SM Twitter guy "warning" people is smoke and mirrors. The top girls get to sell what they want, and I don't believe for a second that SM doesn't know that they sell panties, raffles, phone numbers, etc. I don't agree with it, but it is what it is.
temptingmodel
06-24-2013, 10:05 AM
I'm so glad I dont watch cams much. It would irritate me. SM already stated they will not take complaints from other models about other models but if it is brought to supports attention than something would be done. So, if they dont take complaints how will support do anything? Its a mystery.
I don't want this turning into a site where we have to sell things in order to get shows, so far I have read numbers, dates, computers and now fucking cookies? When they allowed to sell vids last year SUDDENLY that was a tell tell of rules being bent. I jumped the train bc hell, gotta keep up, plus selling a vid back then was easy, now customers are use to it and models are offering more ridiculous shit to make shows.
I was leary about videos, but now holy hell... comps? cookies?
SM is turning into a big swap market.
DoodlebugBites
06-24-2013, 10:38 AM
I want a cookie.
Ugh. Let's be stupid and turn SM into MFFuckingC. Pretty soon you'll need to light your hair on fire and do flaming backflips just to do free chat. Gold shows are bad enough.
On another note SM glitching was in full effect for me today. Encoder down. Down and up in HD. Multiple times. Guys cams weren't loading. My first real feel of the glitching. What a pain in the ass.
temptingmodel
06-24-2013, 11:33 AM
lol so does my kid but I dont bake :) so let's go buy a gold show!
I want a cookie.
temptingmodel
06-24-2013, 11:33 AM
Ugh. Let's be stupid and turn SM into MFFuckingC. Pretty soon you'll need to light your hair on fire and do flaming backflips just to do free chat. Gold shows are bad enough.
On another note SM glitching was in full effect for me today. Encoder down. Down and up in HD. Multiple times. Guys cams weren't loading. My first real feel of the glitching. What a pain in the ass.
are you on new or old encoder?
roast
06-24-2013, 12:57 PM
There is a couple on right now selling raffle tickets for....... home made cookies.
Hey hey hey dont out me girl, how dare you.
Jk, hahahahaha really? That's hilarious. I almost dont believe you guys but rofl
Hope theyre actually homemade. Watch their account get tagged like "storebought cookies", "ripoff baker", "culinary skills liar", "C is for Counterfeit Cookies"
Hey on SM, Id rather sell cookies than dirty panties, pics, or clips. Well Id rather not sell anything at all beyond the show bc I thought the price was for admission only but apparently Im delusional bc Im increasingly getting guys asking me for pics and clips after shows? So idk man, maybe Ill sell cookies afterwards but like attach a jpeg of a cookie. Or a .mov, .wmv, .mp4, .flv of cookies rising in the oven lol
I wont do this. Well, check in in a few months. By then people will be selling organs. "Tip 20 gold, and you get one of my kidneys and 500 clips! Tip 5 extra to ensure it arrives with icepacks"
lol im sorry. I know it is getting super competitive so puling out all stops or being creative or adding in sweeteners to get people to pledge or join is the name of the game, so I dont mean to mock the pressure some feel but................ hahahahahaha man
Nina_Den
06-24-2013, 02:00 PM
I think my lame i3 computer can't deal with SM's encoder anymore. Been pulling teeth today. I guess I could only go back to SM once I (somehow, magically) have the money to afford a decent computer with a strong processor. :ashamed: Damn.
EDIT: Or is it my Internet connection? I actually have no idea. My upload speed is at 1.50 mbps and that's pretty much the most you can get in Israel. Is it -really- bad for SM, or do some of you get away with it?
MissSassyPickles
06-24-2013, 03:23 PM
I think my lame i3 computer can't deal with SM's encoder anymore. Been pulling teeth today. I guess I could only go back to SM once I (somehow, magically) have the money to afford a decent computer with a strong processor. :ashamed: Damn.
EDIT: Or is it my Internet connection? I actually have no idea. My upload speed is at 1.50 mbps and that's pretty much the most you can get in Israel. Is it -really- bad for SM, or do some of you get away with it?
I have an i3 and an upload speed of 0.76 and I'm usually in the middle of the first page and last night I even got on the 1st row (given it was pretty late lol). I use the low settings (the old ones). I can't do widescreen as I'll have to get a new computer for that.
VoluptiousBriadda
06-24-2013, 03:31 PM
There is so much comedy genius in this post that it would be a damn shame for me NOT to siggy it. ;)
shes on a roll tonight i edited my siggy with one of her post tonight too
Daaaawwww!..
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Just stawp it you'z guyyyyz!
Does feeling incredibly humbled/honored/elated that some of my posts have been made into several signatures mean I need to get a life? Well,fuck it if so,I'm owning it,cuz I feel like a muthafuckin RAWKSTAR right now!
I love ALL my gorgeous filthy CC ho's so.fucking.much! You bishes complete me,COMPLETE.ME. :grouphug:
scareymary
06-24-2013, 04:12 PM
I've had a good long sit down with myself and thought more about my camming career with SM than I have ever given in the last 2 years and have come to my own personal conclusions.
Considering I have been e-mailing SM for the last 2 1/2 to 3 weeks about my placement concerns but have not received any assistance it means to me it is the way SM intends it to be. For reasons beyond my control I was not on cam 5 to 7 days a week but more like 2 days but was always able to do well for the days I was able to appear. It was a temporary situation but what I take for granted is there are so many women who don't have as much going on in their lives at the moment and are able to spend 4 or 5 extra days on cam so of course they will make more revenue for the site. What I have done in the last 90 days probably does not measure up to what other performers have done in the last 90 days so SM decided it's time to cut me loose. This is the only sense I can make of their lack of help in my personal situation. I don't know what's going on with any other cam model so based on my very narrow vision of only my relationship with SM it's the only reasonable explanation. I only wish instead of sending me canned responses and taking little to no action to assist me it would be much more respectful of them to be more transparent with the reasons they chose to move me. I don't understand why they wouldn't just be honest and say 'hey model, you only made x amount of $$ this review period and you have your work cut out for you if you want to continue being featured'.
It's not just the lack of communication and lack of transparency that bothers me. It's the girls pissing through their panties in free chat which is illegal in ever state and most countries, selling their panties in free chat, showing their assholes and pussy through their panties {sheer or t shaped or otherwise}, simulating sexual acts by blowing their toy in free chat and sticking their hands in their drawers and wiggling their fingers as they moan and the whole trend of giving away more and more and more. It just keeps piling up with so much free shit that its becoming an expectation and not just a bonus. It makes my teeth chatter to see some rules are ok to be broken by some models but not for others. Some rules are ok to be broken by specific models but not for others. No rules are enforced unless it becomes a situation of cam model tattling on cam model which sucks because I am plum fed up with the whole female against female thing. We live in a tough enough reality without pitting ourselves against each other over and over and over again.
To be honest I don't talk to many models. The models I do talk to {I only know 2 models and they are row 1 page 1 anchored models} try to coach me on how to steal SM viewers and bring them to ifriends for the 100% payout or to skype for a 100% payout. They gossip to me about the drama SM admin has with certain models and how easily the SM admin is taken advantage of. Both of the models have the SM admin on her yahoo messenger list, one of them has an actual dedicated phone support line. SM knows damn well she is one of their biggest rivals, they have confronted her with it but she was able to worm her way out of it and to this day instead of seeing her as the thief she is they always jump whenever she needs something from them!
The double standards suck. The lack of support sucks. The lack of honesty and transparency sucks. Being moved to the back of the site for having putting life before camming sucks. For crying out loud, most employee/employer/contractor/whatever business relationship give grace when someone needs time off. They don't just fire them. Right now I feel as if I have been fired and with no severance warning or package.
Forgive me for another wall. Forgive me for blowing steam all over your forum. Forgive me for my offenses if I have offended you. This has been festering and I have burst!
Nina_Den
06-24-2013, 04:28 PM
Wow. The last 3 paragraphs made me realize I'm pretty naive.
Marina Starr
06-24-2013, 04:57 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/tumblr_maly9hYf1I1rf9vlmo1_500_zpsf2e0c9c5.gif (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/melaniamai/media/tumblr_maly9hYf1I1rf9vlmo1_500_zpsf2e0c9c5.gif.htm l)
It's all true. I vote that everyone just quits. My opinion has nothing to do with selfish motivation or the rules of supply and demand either...
Snowy0Star
06-24-2013, 05:03 PM
It's all true. I vote that everyone just quits. My opinion has nothing to do with selfish motivation or the rules of supply and demand either...
if jacs theory is correct about them not wanting to upgrade the servers and its affecting us its only a matter of time before they shot themselves in the foot with it and even the tops starts to feel it someone mentioned that the tops dont feel it because they have regs. but if shawn doesnt buy new servers and fix the issues even the tops clients are going to move because theyll get tired of dealing with the tech issues and theyll be feeling it just like us and find other sites to work on. then SM will see a downward spiral. i dont even understand it tho just buy new servers and code the site better its not that hard to me.
JaneBurgess
06-24-2013, 05:07 PM
I'm good at private and exclusive's. :)
You are good at something. We're all good at something. I only do Gold shows to escape free chat.
JaneBurgess
06-24-2013, 05:11 PM
No they don't, two of them have been suspended this month. One for Snap Chat and another for selling her phone number. They have started cracking down.
Honestly, I think that the SM Twitter guy "warning" people is smoke and mirrors. The top girls get to sell what they want, and I don't believe for a second that SM doesn't know that they sell panties, raffles, phone numbers, etc. I don't agree with it, but it is what it is.
Marina Starr
06-24-2013, 05:12 PM
Hell yeah!
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu168/mackmoves/gif/tumblr_kys4orLeA71qzx7cl.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/mackmoves/media/gif/tumblr_kys4orLeA71qzx7cl.gif.html)
I'm good at private and exclusive's. :)
JaneBurgess
06-24-2013, 05:14 PM
They are building a hub for new servers. They have said that a few times the last few months. The ETA was six months ago a couple of months ago.
if jacs theory is correct about them not wanting to upgrade the servers and its affecting us its only a matter of time before they shot themselves in the foot with it and even the tops starts to feel it someone mentioned that the tops dont feel it because they have regs. but if shawn doesnt buy new servers and fix the issues even the tops clients are going to move because theyll get tired of dealing with the tech issues and theyll be feeling it just like us and find other sites to work on. then SM will see a downward spiral. i dont even understand it tho just buy new servers and code the site better its not that hard to me.
Snowy0Star
06-24-2013, 05:15 PM
No they don't, two of them have been suspended this month. One for Snap Chat and another for selling her phone number. They have started cracking down.
this gives me a SMALL glimmer of hope
DoodlebugBites
06-24-2013, 05:37 PM
No they don't, two of them have been suspended this month. One for Snap Chat and another for selling her phone number. They have started cracking down.
Oh great NOW you tell me! I just baked a batch of cookies for Gold Shows tonight!
~Carmen~
06-24-2013, 05:45 PM
Oh great NOW you tell me! I just baked a batch of cookies for Gold Shows tonight!
I'll take a snickerdoodle :D
justanothercamgirl
06-24-2013, 06:00 PM
if jacs theory is correct about them not wanting to upgrade the servers and its affecting us its only a matter of time before they shot themselves in the foot with it and even the tops starts to feel it someone mentioned that the tops dont feel it because they have regs. but if shawn doesnt buy new servers and fix the issues even the tops clients are going to move because theyll get tired of dealing with the tech issues and theyll be feeling it just like us and find other sites to work on. then SM will see a downward spiral. i dont even understand it tho just buy new servers and code the site better its not that hard to me.
The good news is that if I am correct it should happen slowly.
Um, at least I *think* that is good news.
Edited to add: It is my opinion that it isn't so much a server issue as much as it is currently a bad code issue.
justanothercamgirl
06-24-2013, 06:15 PM
i dont even understand it tho just buy new servers and code the site better its not that hard to me.
In Streamate's defense, (oh my god, did I actually just say that? Did hell just freeze over?) what they are trying to pull off is actually really unprecedented when it comes to camming sites.
Where everything gets all fucked up in my personal opinion is that Streamate doesn't really seem have a good grasp on the fact that what they are trying to do (PC + TV + APP) *is* unprecedented and therefore has the potential to literally glitch their business out of existance. From where I sit here from the outside looking in at this entire situation it appears to me that they are making their programmer push forward with the code without really making sure that the last revision that the new code is sitting on is truly stable.
This is dangerous because if your base code is not stable then anything on top of it can fall on your head like a house of cards.
Snowy0Star
06-24-2013, 06:20 PM
In Streamate's defense, (oh my god, did I actually just say that? Did hell just freeze over?) what they are trying to pull off is actually really unprecedented when it comes to camming sites.
Where everything gets all fucked up in my personal opinion is that Streamate doesn't really seem have a good grasp on the fact that what they are trying to do (PC + TV + APP) *is* unprecedented and therefore has the potential to literally glitch their business out of existance. From where I sit here from the outside looking in at this entire situation it appears to me that they are making their programmer push forward with the code without really making sure that the last revision that the new code is sitting on is truly stable.
This is dangerous because if your base code is not stable then anything on top of it can fall on your head ike a house of cards.
well we all know they lurk here so maybe they will read these post and it will pull their heads out of their asses
justanothercamgirl
06-24-2013, 06:25 PM
well we all know they lurk here so maybe they will read these post and it will pull their heads out of their asses
Ah, you caught me!
It is why I actually even bother saying these things out in public in Camming Connection since I know that the majority of the camgirls don't really care about or understand what I am trying to explain.
The real reason behind why I actually do it is my stupid blind hope that someone with some influence there will see me pointing at the iceburg so they can adjust their currently heading accordingly for it.
Incantatious
06-24-2013, 09:29 PM
I switched back to the old encoder settings today and had an amazing night! I was 3rd row again and all was perfect. I sent a message to SM about the troubles I had with widescreen and noticed that they now have a NEW support option!!
"Feedback on new features"
Hmm!..... I wonder where that could possibly come from! ;)
It's clear they have been inundated with models with widescreen issues - so much so that it needed it's own goddamn section!
So here's hoping the issues with placement and widescreen (and everything related to widescreen) will be resolved. I pretty much told them that widescreen (and the shite placement it gives me) makes their site unusable for me.
JaneBurgess
06-24-2013, 11:09 PM
Give me the cookies
Oh great NOW you tell me! I just baked a batch of cookies for Gold Shows tonight!
DoodlebugBites
06-24-2013, 11:54 PM
Give me the cookies
Ah, you called my bluff. The closest I get to baking these days is fantasizing about buying cookie dough and eating it straight from the container.
I'm too lazy to go out and get it tho. Does the Ho Shopping Network deliver?
DEUCESWILD
06-25-2013, 02:38 AM
Can someone give me the old settings before widescreen? I tried downloading the link in Snowy's sig but for some reason I keep getting an error. If anyone has it I would appreciate it so much because my traffic has gone to shit since I switched to widescreen.
Snowy0Star
06-25-2013, 02:42 AM
Can someone give me the old settings before widescreen? I tried downloading the link in Snowy's sig but for some reason I keep getting an error. If anyone has it I would appreciate it so much because my traffic has gone to shit since I switched to widescreen.
o dear is anyone else having problems getting it what error did u get 0.0
DEUCESWILD
06-25-2013, 03:15 AM
Everytime I try to open it, it says internet explorer has stopped working and when I exit the box it just keeps popping back up. My main browser is google chrome, but when I just pull up internet explorer browser by itself it comes up fine. Only giving me problems when I try to open the file. Not sure why this is happening. Do you know if there is any other way I can view it? Thanks :)
Snowy0Star
06-25-2013, 03:30 AM
Everytime I try to open it, it says internet explorer has stopped working and when I exit the box it just keeps popping back up. My main browser is google chrome, but when I just pull up internet explorer browser by itself it comes up fine. Only giving me problems when I try to open the file. Not sure why this is happening. Do you know if there is any other way I can view it? Thanks :)
i dunno i can right them down and pm it to u i have time to burn lol but IE doesn't like google and if u cant get it with chrome i dunno what the issue could be i loged out of my google account and clicked the link as an anon user and downloaded it just fine.
DEUCESWILD
06-25-2013, 04:00 AM
I'd hate for you to have to write all that, I tried as a non user but same issue. Thanks for all your help!
justanothercamgirl
06-25-2013, 05:17 AM
I switched back to the old encoder settings today and had an amazing night! I was 3rd row again and all was perfect. I sent a message to SM about the troubles I had with widescreen and noticed that they now have a NEW support option!!
"Feedback on new features"
Hmm!..... I wonder where that could possibly come from! ;)
It's clear they have been inundated with models with widescreen issues - so much so that it needed it's own goddamn section!
So here's hoping the issues with placement and widescreen (and everything related to widescreen) will be resolved. I pretty much told them that widescreen (and the shite placement it gives me) makes their site unusable for me.
The truly terrifying thing is the fact that the new option to complain about the new features did not probably comeabout for the models.....
It is entirely possible that it is now there for the customers.
sammii
06-25-2013, 06:43 AM
Here are the old settings. I hope it helps some of you.
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