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temptingmodel
07-17-2013, 09:34 AM
press "prnt scrn" (usually with the numbers up top)
THEN
open paint then hit ctrl v

AliceFun
07-17-2013, 10:41 AM
So then I notice my bitrate on my encoder is what is doing it. It keeps "adjusting." My bitrate is set for the 56. Goes all the way up to 800.

Do i get it right u set ur bitrate to 56??!! U need to set it to 800.

Marina Starr
07-17-2013, 10:58 AM
Some fucktard gave me a 1 star rating and left under 2 minutes because I couldn't fulfill his requests with other guests in private. It's time to contact SM support and get that removed. Should have taken me Exclusive, lol!

temptingmodel
07-17-2013, 01:24 PM
WARNING ALL CAMMERS!


Performing today I had a 5 or more minute lag

In free chat I was still in Gold Show, back to free chat, showing up in free performing my Gold show.

IN PAID chat (thank god for member that are oblivious) I was in paid chat and it was streaming my free chat from many minutes prior. I was saying things, bullshitting like I do in free (5 mins previous)
the stream was so slow

go back into Free and Im drillling my ass like I was in paid bc that is what I was doing in paid.

I logged out of streamate.com and opened it again as a NON MEMBER ... drilling my ass on screen in paid BUT I WAS IN FREE CHAT, not doing what the screens where showing.

I screenshot my own ass and turned myself in ;)


cammers, you might want to randomly check your stream. check the lag, all that good fun stuff

Marina Starr
07-17-2013, 01:33 PM
WOW! That was fast. I just received an email from SM support saying the rating has been removed. Thank you :)

keilee
07-17-2013, 02:51 PM
I've been having the same problem for the last two days. The first day I just gave up and called it an early night. Yesterday I ended up closing the encoder all together and steamed in HD wide with no problems other than placement. Hopefully they fix this major issue soon.

Marina Starr
07-17-2013, 04:53 PM
Can I just say how much I love being in Exclusive and seeing my placement at the #1 spot when I am on?

tattooed_fox
07-17-2013, 11:31 PM
How do I record video while in excl chat? I'm using the logitec 920 if it makes a difference.

justanothercamgirl
07-18-2013, 05:47 AM
How do I record video while in excl chat? I'm using the logitec 920 if it makes a difference.

You do it through the adobe encoder.

kittykrane
07-18-2013, 07:25 AM
lololol the same shit happened with me. My thought "How do camgirls do this who are married or steady boyfriends?"

exclusives are not showing up for regulars :(

Actually that was the first time in a while I had gotten laid, which is why I was so sore. .I'm much more gentle with my dildos on myself! To be honest, my libido isn't the best either since I started camming; fortunately I have a very understanding partner; he just travels a lot so when he is around, we make up for lost time.

tattooed_fox
07-18-2013, 07:56 AM
You do it through the adobe encoder.

Thank you!

Mare
07-18-2013, 09:05 AM
Do i get it right u set ur bitrate to 56??!! U need to set it to 800.
Yeah. I have it set to 56 since that's what it says on the manual encoder settings. But on the part where it's adjusting it jumps as high as 800. So maybe I have to set it higher. I got out of school 100 years ago before they taught tech stuff. So now I have to just do my best. Thanks for the input.

ConnyLove
07-18-2013, 10:11 AM
Yeah. I have it set to 56 since that's what it says on the manual encoder settings. But on the part where it's adjusting it jumps as high as 800. So maybe I have to set it higher. I got out of school 100 years ago before they taught tech stuff. So now I have to just do my best. Thanks for the input.

It's 56 for the audio bit rate( the one in the middle) , but for video ( the one on your left side) is 800.

Nina_Den
07-18-2013, 12:14 PM
If I take a 3-4 weeks break from Streamate, will it affect my placement/ratings/anthing else?
I'm asking because I seriously consider doing it. Some of the comments that I got today were outright disastrous to me. I am not particularlly mentally-stable, and a few hours ago I did something I now regret.
The point is, while I don't want to quit altogether, I think it will be very unhealthy for me to continue camming during the upcoming weeks. I really just want to take this time for myself, to remember what's really important in life, to remember my real value. But, as I said, I'm afraid of the potential outcome such break might have, so that's why I ask.

karaamsel
07-18-2013, 12:21 PM
while the whole placement thing is a mystery to me (i don't even know my own placement since i geo-block), i want to offer support and say that regardless of the answer, you and your mental health are much more important. sounds like things aren't going very well and maybe a break is necessary to "re-set" and come back fresh or to find a job that isn't so emotionally damaging. sorry - hope you can find some peace!

Via Flaminia
07-18-2013, 12:27 PM
I'm sorry, Nina. I think something's up this week. That's all I'm going to say about that, except to add it's *not* you, just a very unstable, bitter person stirring up trouble on the site. Ignore, report if necessary.

As far as placement, I have taken a 21 day break (twice,actually) & it took 2-3 shifts for things to return to normal. The guys said they missed me, which is nice, especially when they go for an Excl show b/c they are glad to see me.

Only you can decide if you need a break, but I say sleep on it. If you would like some objective reassurance that it's not you (and maybe insight as to the trolling & what's driving it), go to Alexa.com & look up SM.

Peace & blessings- you are in my thoughts.
P.S. Just want to add that I think we are in a slow week in general - the sites I work are slow. I think it's a combination of things.

Marina Starr
07-18-2013, 12:47 PM
I don't think that will break you! I've taken 6 weeks break from SM in the past and when I came back, my placement was still the same. I am not sure if you are a novelty but since I am one, I don't need regulars. If you feel like you need to take a break then by all means listen to your inner voice. Only you know what's best for you!

If I take a 3-4 weeks break from Streamate, will it affect my placement/ratings/anthing else?
I'm asking because I seriously consider doing it. Some of the comments that I got today were outright disastrous to me. I am not particularlly mentally-stable, and a few hours ago I did something I now regret.
The point is, while I don't want to quit altogether, I think it will be very unhealthy for me to continue camming during the upcoming weeks. I really just want to take this time for myself, to remember what's really important in life, to remember my real value. But, as I said, I'm afraid of the potential outcome such break might have, so that's why I ask.

Marina Starr
07-18-2013, 01:09 PM
Distance makes the heart grow fonder :)

As far as placement, I have taken a 21 day break (twice,actually) & it took 2-3 shifts for things to return to normal. The guys said they missed me, which is nice, especially when they go for an Excl show b/c they are glad to see me.

Prussia
07-18-2013, 01:43 PM
... I also have a bitch who has in her profile description that shes better than bigbootyjudy .I'm going to keep calm and not go curse that bitch out and send all my regulars to spam her ass.She better be lucky im not that petty.Damn, i guess i must be that good for bitches to be mentioning me in their profile description. ...

Seriously, who fucking does that? :mad: What a fucking twat face. Reading that made my blood boil! You mean in the about me section correct? I just went into my profile and did a mini edit to see if admin still does approvals to changes in the text boxes. It does (it reads in the main dashboard page "Your profile update is pending approval."). Which means admin approved of that being in her profile info. If I were you I would screen cap that girls profile then email admin and ask why the hell that slipped through the cracks. It's totally unprofessional for the site to allow that to be posted on that girls page.

Missymissdemeanour
07-18-2013, 04:58 PM
So I was having so many issues with the encoder tonight, lagging badly by appx 5 mins! Freezing etc but I needed to make some money before cut off so in the end I dropped the encoder and logged in the old way, I made $40+ in 30 mins lol just goes to show ;)

JaneBurgess
07-18-2013, 06:21 PM
Probably not. Your health is way more important, so please take a break if you need it. I took a year off from camming before and it was awesome.



If I take a 3-4 weeks break from Streamate, will it affect my placement/ratings/anthing else?
I'm asking because I seriously consider doing it. Some of the comments that I got today were outright disastrous to me. I am not particularlly mentally-stable, and a few hours ago I did something I now regret.
The point is, while I don't want to quit altogether, I think it will be very unhealthy for me to continue camming during the upcoming weeks. I really just want to take this time for myself, to remember what's really important in life, to remember my real value. But, as I said, I'm afraid of the potential outcome such break might have, so that's why I ask.

AliceFun
07-18-2013, 08:36 PM
If I take a 3-4 weeks break from Streamate, will it affect my placement/ratings/anthing else?
I'm asking because I seriously consider doing it. Some of the comments that I got today were outright disastrous to me. I am not particularlly mentally-stable, and a few hours ago I did something I now regret.
The point is, while I don't want to quit altogether, I think it will be very unhealthy for me to continue camming during the upcoming weeks. I really just want to take this time for myself, to remember what's really important in life, to remember my real value. But, as I said, I'm afraid of the potential outcome such break might have, so that's why I ask.

May i ask what happened? What u did there, is connected to work or private life? Health should always come 1st anyway, take ur time and return on cam when u ready. I think u pushed urself too much into work? If u dont wanna type here maybe u PM me if u need any help. Take care

Prussia
07-18-2013, 09:43 PM
If I take a 3-4 weeks break from Streamate, will it affect my placement/ratings/anthing else?
I'm asking because I seriously consider doing it. Some of the comments that I got today were outright disastrous to me. I am not particularlly mentally-stable, and a few hours ago I did something I now regret.
The point is, while I don't want to quit altogether, I think it will be very unhealthy for me to continue camming during the upcoming weeks. I really just want to take this time for myself, to remember what's really important in life, to remember my real value. But, as I said, I'm afraid of the potential outcome such break might have, so that's why I ask.

I've been away from cam & social sites for a month before when I left my country. It took a few days to bounce back, and I'm sure it will be the same for you. You can always write the site and tell them you need to take time off and to not delete your account if you're worried about that. Always put yourself first no matter what! There is nothing wrong in taking time off to regroup, clear your mind, take care of yourself, focus on what is important to you and so on. I don't know you, but from the sounds of it if your gut feeling is telling you to do it then it's probably for the best. Camming will always be there. Reflect on what is going on in your life at the moment and reflect what you want in the future. :)

Prussia
07-18-2013, 09:57 PM
WARNING ALL CAMMERS!


Performing today I had a 5 or more minute lag

In free chat I was still in Gold Show, back to free chat, showing up in free performing my Gold show.

IN PAID chat (thank god for member that are oblivious) I was in paid chat and it was streaming my free chat from many minutes prior. I was saying things, bullshitting like I do in free (5 mins previous)
the stream was so slow

go back into Free and Im drillling my ass like I was in paid bc that is what I was doing in paid.

I logged out of streamate.com and opened it again as a NON MEMBER ... drilling my ass on screen in paid BUT I WAS IN FREE CHAT, not doing what the screens where showing.

I screenshot my own ass and turned myself in ;)


cammers, you might want to randomly check your stream. check the lag, all that good fun stuff

Girl, thanks for the heads up this issue! Seriously, I was going to end with a gold show tonight and my room went into cyber-acid-trip-mode. I remember reading this earlier in the day and it saved me from having a heart attack thinking my computer was crashing on me. :O

Has anyone emailed admin? I am going to do so in the am when I'm not feeling pissy from said situation.

Nina_Den
07-19-2013, 02:08 AM
May i ask what happened? What u did there, is connected to work or private life? Health should always come 1st anyway, take ur time and return on cam when u ready. I think u pushed urself too much into work? If u dont wanna type here maybe u PM me if u need any help. Take care

Thanks, Alice.
It is actually related to my personal life. I'm embarrassed sharing it in here; it feels... too much. Let's just say it's not something worth doing over a horrible day on cam, however horrible it might have been.
It's just that... I never developed a thick skin in my life. Sometimes I feel like I'm walking around in the world with my nerves exposed. Whenever I have a bad day on cam, and especially if I get rude comments, it affects me to the core. I then completely forget that I've also had days where I banked, and only see myself as an ugly failure and the worst camgirl in the universe. Yeah, it's... pretty bad. I feel bad just typing it.

I don't think I should quit or take a long break. I'll most likely log in again on Monday and see how it goes.
I also hate feeling like I'm filling up this forum with negativity. It makes me feel even worse about myself. It's not my intention. It's just that you guys are literally the only ones I can talk to about it.

temptingmodel
07-19-2013, 08:03 AM
I was told to use medium settings when this happens ... that is it :(
Girl, thanks for the heads up this issue! Seriously, I was going to end with a gold show tonight and my room went into cyber-acid-trip-mode. I remember reading this earlier in the day and it saved me from having a heart attack thinking my computer was crashing on me. :O

Has anyone emailed admin? I am going to do so in the am when I'm not feeling pissy from said situation.

temptingmodel
07-19-2013, 08:07 AM
camming will make you grow thick skin. Im thinking your younger? Im in my mid 30s and remember being very vulnerable to attacks in my early 20s. I swear with age you get a "fuck the world" type of attitude and when you really start succeeding, you will just look at those comments and say "you are right, everything you say is right" make them feel like a douche bag for it not effecting you. Reverse Psychology comes in handy with this business. You will learn as you go.
Thanks, Alice.
It is actually related to my personal life. I'm embarrassed sharing it in here; it feels... too much. Let's just say it's not something worth doing over a horrible day on cam, however horrible it might have been.
It's just that... I never developed a thick skin in my life. Sometimes I feel like I'm walking around in the world with my nerves exposed. Whenever I have a bad day on cam, and especially if I get rude comments, it affects me to the core. I then completely forget that I've also had days where I banked, and only see myself as an ugly failure and the worst camgirl in the universe. Yeah, it's... pretty bad. I feel bad just typing it.

I don't think I should quit or take a long break. I'll most likely log in again on Monday and see how it goes.
I also hate feeling like I'm filling up this forum with negativity. It makes me feel even worse about myself. It's not my intention. It's just that you guys are literally the only ones I can talk to about it.

karaamsel
07-19-2013, 09:01 AM
Thanks, Alice.
It is actually related to my personal life. I'm embarrassed sharing it in here; it feels... too much. Let's just say it's not something worth doing over a horrible day on cam, however horrible it might have been.
It's just that... I never developed a thick skin in my life. Sometimes I feel like I'm walking around in the world with my nerves exposed. Whenever I have a bad day on cam, and especially if I get rude comments, it affects me to the core. I then completely forget that I've also had days where I banked, and only see myself as an ugly failure and the worst camgirl in the universe. Yeah, it's... pretty bad. I feel bad just typing it.

I don't think I should quit or take a long break. I'll most likely log in again on Monday and see how it goes.
I also hate feeling like I'm filling up this forum with negativity. It makes me feel even worse about myself. It's not my intention. It's just that you guys are literally the only ones I can talk to about it.

sorry there's crap going on in your personal life :(

to the rude comments, you gotta stay empowered (easier said than done). trolls can sense when they are getting to you and they just do it to be hateful. i try and think about the sad pathetic lives they lead and what makes them say things like that to pretty girls - and it makes me feel instantly better.

a long time ago, i dated someone who managed to make me feel insecure about the cellulite on my thighs and the bump in my nose but when you looked at him, he was lucky to have me because he was a complete ogre (inside and out). when you let comments like that get to you, you give away power to the person emotionally abusing you (that's what trolls do), changing the power dynamic to one where you are the weaker one.

now, i've had trolls come into my room and comment on my cellulite and i'm like cool... 80% of women have it... thanks for being so observant. have a super day!

people being rude is about them, not you. you have the power!

temptingmodel
07-19-2013, 10:03 AM
lol ^^ same story! haha

I get these
Your ugly
"your daddy didnt think so"
your fat
"I dont own a mirror, thanks for the heads up"
I bet you don make 50k a year
''I bet you are 100% accurate"
your ugly
"I also a conceited motherfucker"
or
"so are you, want to go private?"

I have been called racial slurs "jew" "wetback" "cameljockey" "inbreed" "wigger" "redneck" ...wtfever.. so if saying this shit makes them feel better and they can sleep at night, more power to them. Ask them to turn on their camera, bet they will not. ;)

When it gets to me, I log off and go fuck around for a bit. Usually I can tell if its a model , such as the income comment.

The best way to rid a troll is to troll right back.

karaamsel
07-19-2013, 10:09 AM
lol ^^ same story! haha

I get these
Your ugly
"your daddy didnt think so"
your fat
"I dont own a mirror, thanks for the heads up"
I bet you don make 50k a year
''I bet you are 100% accurate"
your ugly
"I also a conceited motherfucker"
or
"so are you, want to go private?"

exactly... you gotta turn it around on them. i had one guy say his dick fell off doing my mother so i responded, so you're dickless, that's why you're so pissy! that shut him up.

temptingmodel
07-19-2013, 10:12 AM
exactly... you gotta turn it around on them. i had one guy say his dick fell off doing my mother so i responded, so you're dickless, that's why you're so pissy! that shut him up.
haha , it must suck to suck. I love trolling back. Kinda breaks up my day lol

Nina_Den
07-19-2013, 10:51 AM
You guys rock my world.

I noticed that the thing which hurts me the most, more than anything else, is the guys logging in followed by an instant logging off. I get TONS of these and I mostly have, like, 2-3 members in my room at the most, even on the days that I bank. It makes me insane, because I think I'm far from being ugly. My stream is alright, too. I really, honestly don't understand it, and it feels like being punched in the stomach.

temptingmodel
07-19-2013, 11:04 AM
I noticed that the thing which hurts me the most, more than anything else, is the guys logging in followed by an instant logging off. :D This happens to all of us.. TRUST ME.. its not you, its cheap ass freeloading motherfuckers. When they come in free and leave fast it is due to them abusing the paid chat entry, they know that they are doing wrong. They catch u prv bc you are usually doing something, in free they flee bc you can hit the ban button faster if you recognize the name.

Marina Starr
07-19-2013, 11:11 AM
I get the same thing! They popped in my room then gone! It's not about you or what you look like. You gotta think of yourself as a $100 bill. It doesn't matter if its clean, dirty or all crumbled up, it's value doesn't change. A $100 bill is still a $100 bill!
Focus on what's right with you rather then what's wrong. That will make you feel better about who you are.

You guys rock my world.

I noticed that the thing which hurts me the most, more than anything else, is the guys logging in followed by an instant logging off. I get TONS of these and I mostly have, like, 2-3 members in my room at the most, even on the days that I bank. It makes me insane, because I think I'm far from being ugly. My stream is alright, too. I really, honestly don't understand it, and it feels like being punched in the stomach.

RaeRae
07-19-2013, 11:17 AM
:D This happens to all of us.. TRUST ME.. its not you, its cheap ass freeloading motherfuckers. When they come in free and leave fast it is due to them abusing the paid chat entry, they know that they are doing wrong. They catch u prv bc you are usually doing something, in free they flee bc you can hit the ban button faster if you recognize the name.

Well, everyone once in a while, it is SM fucking up and kicking them off the page for some reason. As that happened to me a lot the other day, but then the guys were able to stay once they took me pvt. I don't know what's up with Streamate some days. I wish they'd get rid of the free peak ability, as it makes me psychotically angry when I'm doing something in doggy and I can't see the screen, so I can't see about banning the motherfucker when they are trying to do it for a second time that day.

BlasianBytch
07-19-2013, 11:27 AM
I'm done with blocks , I only had the lowest amount enabled and I felt really short changed. Now that I started doing shows during the weekdays its ALL guys want. UGH

karaamsel
07-19-2013, 11:44 AM
Focus on what's right with you rather then what's wrong. That will make you feel better about who you are.

Yes! That is great advice! Thanks Marina!

scarlettbelle
07-19-2013, 12:47 PM
You guys rock my world.

I noticed that the thing which hurts me the most, more than anything else, is the guys logging in followed by an instant logging off. I get TONS of these and I mostly have, like, 2-3 members in my room at the most, even on the days that I bank. It makes me insane, because I think I'm far from being ugly. My stream is alright, too. I really, honestly don't understand it, and it feels like being punched in the stomach.

Not sure if you mean they log out once they come in to free chat or when they come in to paid chat, but either way, that is stereotypical free loader behavior. That or site glitches. If it's happening in free chat, it's because they're hoping you're doing something that they can use to jerk off for free. If it's happening in paid chat it's because they want their 30 second peek. It happens to me too, and I hardly even notice it anymore because it happens CONSTANTLY. I promise, it's not you that's the problem, it's them! Really, it's better not to have them in there wasting your time being beggars anyway. :)

Nina_Den
07-19-2013, 01:08 PM
Not sure if you mean they log out once they come in to free chat or when they come in to paid chat, but either way, that is stereotypical free loader behavior. That or site glitches. If it's happening in free chat, it's because they're hoping you're doing something that they can use to jerk off for free. If it's happening in paid chat it's because they want their 30 second peek. It happens to me too, and I hardly even notice it anymore because it happens CONSTANTLY. I promise, it's not you that's the problem, it's them! Really, it's better not to have them in there wasting your time being beggars anyway. :)

I meant in free chat. In private - yeah, well... as you said, it happens so often with the 30-second peeking that I don't even mind; I just feel sorry for the freeloaders that probably have their limp dick in their left hand, alternating between tabs with the right hand for hours at a time. It's kinda sad, really.

In free chat, on the other hand, it boggles my mind. I know most of the guys are just jumping from room to room, trying to find something "juicy" to either stare at or jerk off to in free chat, but I'm still confused when so many of them seem to log off one second after logging in to my room. I mean, as I said - I rarely have more than 2-3 memebers in my room at a time, and many times I see other girls (not the top row ones) with 5-10 guys in their room at a time, doing nothing special. I know it's wrong and senseless to compare, but it makes me feel insecure and like there's something horribly wrong with me, even though I really do think I'm good-looking.

scarlettbelle
07-19-2013, 02:22 PM
I gotcha. :) Had to LOL at the description of the 30 second guys - gotta love that mental image!! And I hear what you're saying about free chat. It can be really disconcerting to have people popping in and out all the time. It happens to me too, even when I have great placement. This week has been especially brutal. I'll be on the top row with 5 or less people in my room and NO ONE is talking. People pop in and out and no one says a word.

Honestly, I would rather have the people who aren't interested just LEAVE instead of sticking around and harassing me or sitting there in creepy silence. :/

With that said, I know how easy it is to focus on all the bad things people say/do on cam and forget about how well you've done in the past. This job can be really hard on your self esteem. Just don't forget that there are many, many guys who think you are the most beautiful, sexy girl they've ever seen. :)

temptingmodel
07-19-2013, 02:39 PM
I stopped those a long time ago , same experience you are having during the day "No Block time" No bb Im not a kid, I dont play with blocks much.
I'm done with blocks , I only had the lowest amount enabled and I felt really short changed. Now that I started doing shows during the weekdays its ALL guys want. UGH

Nina_Den
07-19-2013, 02:45 PM
I gotcha. :) Had to LOL at the description of the 30 second guys - gotta love that mental image!! And I hear what you're saying about free chat. It can be really disconcerting to have people popping in and out all the time. It happens to me too, even when I have great placement. This week has been especially brutal. I'll be on the top row with 5 or less people in my room and NO ONE is talking. People pop in and out and no one says a word.

Honestly, I would rather have the people who aren't interested just LEAVE instead of sticking around and harassing me or sitting there in creepy silence. :/

With that said, I know how easy it is to focus on all the bad things people say/do on cam and forget about how well you've done in the past. This job can be really hard on your self esteem. Just don't forget that there are many, many guys who think you are the most beautiful, sexy girl they've ever seen. :)

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Also - I know I said it before, but I'll say it once again: you are, without a doubt, the sexiest, prettiest camgirl I've ever seen.
I cannot for the life of me imagine you struggling on SM; those guys are insane. Or just broke. Or both.

temptingmodel
07-19-2013, 02:49 PM
Im not experiencing this, kicking members off unless they are on a cell or ipad. I did experience a long lag the other day.
I let go of being mad at the 30 sec thing along with blocks, fuck em, if that person doesnt do it, someone else will. I will catch them when I can but not focus on it.

I think having the free 30 secs helps us not have charge backs? That is the only reasonable thing I can think of. ts the only site I know that doesnt do charge backs besides a escort site that provides cam.
Well, everyone once in a while, it is SM fucking up and kicking them off the page for some reason. As that happened to me a lot the other day, but then the guys were able to stay once they took me pvt. I don't know what's up with Streamate some days. I wish they'd get rid of the free peak ability, as it makes me psychotically angry when I'm doing something in doggy and I can't see the screen, so I can't see about banning the motherfucker when they are trying to do it for a second time that day.

AliceFun
07-19-2013, 04:05 PM
^^^ Can u explain pls why the 30 secs peeks prevent us from having charge backs on SM?
Cause ImLive also has a 20 secs peek rule and they Have charge backs, a lot! That site could do the same as SM but obviously they not doing it and take even more money off models pocket even the commission there is 30% for new models or 35% for veterans or models in hall of fame.

temptingmodel
07-19-2013, 04:29 PM
my theory ONLY.
say they complain they didnt like the model... they had 30seconds to gtfo. That is the only way I can justify why they do not charge back.

I wasnt saying that is why they do it, just my theory

temptingmodel
07-19-2013, 05:22 PM
pming you

vent bb vent this is complete bullshit

Marina Starr
07-19-2013, 05:23 PM
^^ Maybe you need to email Liz and ask her for it? Gold show ain't shit!

temptingmodel
07-19-2013, 05:27 PM
Gold show ain't shit! so very true... I make money only from privates for the most part. I dont say no to goldshows, just ignore the request. Do them when I feel like it, not when they feel like being cheap

~Carmen~
07-19-2013, 05:33 PM
Yeah, I fought to get gold shows for a long time. I finally got them. Now they remind me of this quote: "Be careful what you wish for" }:D

Marina Starr
07-19-2013, 05:33 PM
Can you say that one more time?! My $$$ cum from pvt/exclusive! I don't do gold show anymore. I was very angry when I used to do them. I only do them to punish the cheap fucks! My gold show is the most boring and I don't do shit so they can kick rocks barefoot!

so very true... I make money only from privates for the most part. I dont say no to goldshows, just ignore the request. Do them when I feel like it, not when they feel like being cheap