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Marina Starr
07-20-2013, 02:50 PM
Absolutely! I think it's mandatory for all girls to read this book! #Bible

Give that book a place of honor! It deserves it's own shelf.

temptingmodel
07-20-2013, 03:12 PM
I gave that book to my mom, she threw it away. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! jumping in her trash can for it and gave it to her neighbor

Marina Starr
07-20-2013, 03:16 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/1249977126_dramatic_black_woman_zps65742d56.gif (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/melaniamai/media/1249977126_dramatic_black_woman_zps65742d56.gif.ht ml)

I gave that book to my mom, she threw it away. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! jumping in her trash can for it and gave it to her neighbor

temptingmodel
07-20-2013, 03:24 PM
I had the same reaction

karaamsel
07-20-2013, 04:43 PM
Regarding Gold Shows~ I think I read on here somewhere, that when someone enters chat and asks for a gs, tell him to tip 1 dollar to prove he's serious about joining. I tell him that not only will I start one, I will do what he wants to see in the show. Most of the time he does, and then contributes to the show. Even though I have been doing gs since they first were created, I'm still working on my 'hustle' to make them work. P.S.- I don't give any vids or pix usually. I don't show any body parts in the countdown either. Just the toy I will be using. (it's always the beggars that want to see skin, that never pay anyway(in my experience).
What I have noticed is, with a longer countdown, I tell those that have given gold that I want to start early, so please give more-They usually do.:biggrin:
Also, when they ask for something that's not in my gs description, I tell them I would do it for them, if they got me halfway to my goal. They do.
I keep my goal below 100 most times, because they get freaked out by higher goal numbers. I tend to have guys popping into my show and I end up making the amount that I had in my head.:D:D
Just a suggestion that is working for me. I hate free chat so much, so in these slower times, it helps to get money flowing in. Besides, I have guys take me prvt. after the show to have more than what I do in the show.:)

great advice - what i'm also wondering is if guys have just gotten tired of girls cancelling countdowns over and over - like maybe it is worthwhile to say "show starts no matter what" to build up that confidence in these guys so they know they are getting a show instead of a million countdowns that never turn into a show

temptingmodel
07-20-2013, 05:23 PM
they are tired of it unless they are a die hard fan
great advice - what i'm also wondering is if guys have just gotten tired of girls cancelling countdowns over and over - like maybe it is worthwhile to say "show starts no matter what" to build up that confidence in these guys so they know they are getting a show instead of a million countdowns that never turn into a show

VictoriaChaos
07-20-2013, 05:23 PM
Oh em gee Marina!
I fucking love youu.
That gif, omg.
I am pumped now.
Whoo, let's go Saturday night!

Prussia
07-20-2013, 08:28 PM
Has anyone noticed suspicious users in their rooms lately? I'm pretty sure my room got hacked during a TV show tonight. I'm kinda freaking out right now. :-\

justanothercamgirl
07-20-2013, 10:20 PM
There were 2 shifts where I tried dancing, and while it worked pretty well when it came down to keeping memebers in my room for more than a fragment of a second, it's VERY exhausting shaking your botty for an entire shift, and, honestly, I seriously think it's something guys should pay for, too.


I make them pay for it.

Put it on your tip menu.

Nocturnelle
07-20-2013, 10:37 PM
Does anyone know if you have to show your face on cam?

karaamsel
07-20-2013, 10:51 PM
you don't. i can think of a couple of girls who don't show their faces for privacy reasons.

lifetravelergirl
07-20-2013, 11:31 PM
I was just wondering... I smoke cigarettes in exclusive for guys who have a smoking fetish but I won't smoke in free chat. The truth is I bought a fake cigarette that I use because I quit smoking real cigarettes, but I had a lot of requests by guys with the smoking fetish. The fake cigarette isn't supposed to have any nicotine in it (except it feels like it does).

Anyway... Most of the creepers on Streamate will come into my free chat and try to con me into smoking in free chat because apparently almost all fetish guys are notoriously cheap.

The weird thing is they always ask the same question, "What brand of cigarettes do you smoke?" What I want to know is why do they ask this question?

lifetravelergirl
07-20-2013, 11:34 PM
Every time a customer tries to call me in Exclusive it only rings for a moment and then hangs up on me. I don't even have time to push the button to answer the call. I contacted Streamate and they tell me that there is no problem and suggest that maybe my telephone company is blocking the calls. But if my telephone company was blocking the calls (t-mobil pay as you go_ then would the call even ring through?

And I have had this problem in the past and they fixed it. So why is it now a problem with t-mobil pay as you go? Or do I just need to send them a support email again?

Anyone else having this issue or is it just me?

VictoriaChaos
07-21-2013, 06:24 AM
The weird thing is they always ask the same question, "What brand of cigarettes do you smoke?" What I want to know is why do they ask this question?

Why do they ask where we live?
Or if were single?
I have no idea. Nor do I question why they ask these things anymore.
I assume it's for conversational reasons.
Are you asking because you think they might have figured out your cig is fake?

Marina Starr
07-21-2013, 06:46 AM
Some are hoping to hookup in person because SM advertised as a "free dating site".
I always tell them I'll answer that in private/exclusive because I don't feel safe in free chat!

I'm from Boston, BB. LMFAO!

Why do they ask where we live?
Or if were single?
I have no idea. Nor do I question why they ask these things anymore.
I assume it's for conversational reasons.
Are you asking becauseyou think they might have figured out your cig is fake?

Missymissdemeanour
07-21-2013, 01:49 PM
Does anyone know if you have to show your face on cam?
No you don't have to, I rarely show mine but the guys are always asking to see it so I just tell them there are plenty of FREE pics on my profile or they can tip to see it in free chat or see every thing in pvt. I just get fed up grinning like a Cheshire cat and guys don't even bother to say hi.
I swear if I was sitting starkers face on cam they would want to see my ass, what ever we show they will always want more!

Snowy0Star
07-21-2013, 02:01 PM
I just get fed up grinning like a Cheshire cat and guys don't even bother to say hi.


THIS

Thank god I'm getting a new comp sent to me a week from tomorrow by a very good reg p on CB. Then I can start making clips and be one step closer to be able to pull away from SM.

Asus P8H67-M pro motherboard
Intel i5-2300 2.8ghz CPU
8gb ram
EVGA nvidia GTX 560 video card
Corsair HX520 power supply
Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500gb hard drive
Samsung DVDRW drive

EDIT

I was about to make another for this but it probably would have gotten moved in here anyway so I just hope I can get some responses back and not have it buried

I was just sitting yesterday thinking and I started to wonder if I was thinking about SM too much. Like the whole 35% thing the fact its slow and its summer all the site problems and freeloaders etc. It just kinda gets to me that we do so much and get much a small percent from that but if you're minute rate is higher and your cut is good does it really seem that bad? Should I be looking at it sorta like if I was a store I had to keep stuff in stock I have to pay other ppl from somewhere for it and I have to charge more then what I paid for so I make some type of profit out of it?

Missymissdemeanour
07-21-2013, 02:05 PM
#bitchy #bitches #men
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/n614439103_1312082_1076_zpsb3353106.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/melaniamai/media/n614439103_1312082_1076_zpsb3353106.jpg.html)

I read that book but I found I was saying 'yup' 'oh yes' 'done that' 'I know' etc etc, felt almost as though I'd written it myself so I didn't really learn anything from it other than the fact that I am a bitch already lol. Maybe it's my age? ;)

naughtycamgirl
07-21-2013, 02:24 PM
I had guys asking for the brand of my lipstick while I was touching it up / brand of my bra/ brand of my shoes !!

I was just wondering... I smoke cigarettes in exclusive for guys who have a smoking fetish but I won't smoke in free chat. The truth is I bought a fake cigarette that I use because I quit smoking real cigarettes, but I had a lot of requests by guys with the smoking fetish. The fake cigarette isn't supposed to have any nicotine in it (except it feels like it does).

Anyway... Most of the creepers on Streamate will come into my free chat and try to con me into smoking in free chat because apparently almost all fetish guys are notoriously cheap.

The weird thing is they always ask the same question, "What brand of cigarettes do you smoke?" What I want to know is why do they ask this question?

VictoriaChaos
07-21-2013, 02:28 PM
Oh my gawd.
Alright so I tried logging on to SM through Google Chrome and I was logged onto an account I never created...
I used my model e-mail but it logged me into a members account.
WTF? I don't even have a member account.
If I log on with firefox, it's fine but I cannot log in as a model with chrome.
Should I be worried? I'm really confused how that's even possible.

VictoriaChaos
07-21-2013, 02:34 PM
I was just sitting yesterday thinking and I started to wonder if I was thinking about SM too much. Like the whole 35% thing the fact its slow and its summer all the site problems and freeloaders etc. It just kinda gets to me that we do so much and get much a small percent from that but if you're minute rate is higher and your cut is good does it really seem that bad? Should I be looking at it sorta like if I was a store I had to keep stuff in stock I have to pay other ppl from somewhere for it and I have to charge more then what I paid for so I make some type of profit out of it?
When I first started camming my bf and I got into a fight when I explained I was only getting 35%.
He made me feel like shit about it and like I was never going to make any money because I would never be able to make shit with a percentage like that.
Well I made him eat his words, and he said that. He couldn't believe I was actually able to make money.
When I think about it, I feel like yeah, it's a shitty percentage, but someone is always going to take something.
Even if your indy your still pay taxes.
I feel like it's a small price to pay to build myself up to go out on my own at some point.
I also think about how easily I could have signed up with a certain studio and thank god I found SW and SM when I did. Just because the percentage is higher does not mean you'll be making more money.
Percentage isn't everything.

Nina_Den
07-21-2013, 02:35 PM
I just get fed up grinning like a Cheshire cat and guys don't even bother to say hi.


I've got a Cheshire cat tat (don't blame me; blame my parents for rolling with it. I was 14 at the time). Perhaps I should point its grinning face to the camera whenever I'm sick of sitting there smiling when none of the members in my room is actually talking to me.

SexyAleks
07-21-2013, 02:35 PM
I had a guy demanding me to wear "designer Loubotin shoes" on cam. As for the bitch thing - I don't think I was that much of a bitch before I started camming last year, now having to deal with all those dumb, freeloading, forever broke men, or those who don't even have the manners to say "thank you" after a quick private because they are too cheap to stay another 15 seconds, any woman would turn into a bitch after having this on a daily basis. I guess escorting has spoiled me way too much and that's why I can't handle camming so well.

VictoriaChaos
07-21-2013, 02:38 PM
I've got a Cheshire cat tat (don't blame me; blame my parents for rolling with it. I was 14 at the time). Perhaps I should point its grinning face to the camera whenever I'm sick of sitting there smiling when none of the members in my room is actually talking to me.

Having conversations with yourself is like mind numbing which is what I do when no one is talking.
Buut I have to ask, how does one get a tattoo at 14?

Nina_Den
07-21-2013, 02:39 PM
@SexyAleks - I've had people in my personal life tell me I've become quite bitchy and cynical ever since I started camming (of course, they don't relate it to camming). It's funny, because I haven't even noticed it up until that point.

Nina_Den
07-21-2013, 02:44 PM
Having conversations with yourself is like mind numbing which is what I do when no one is talking.
Buut I have to ask, how does one get a tattoo at 14?

Unfortunately, I cannot bring myself to do that, no matter what. I get way too self-aware, even though no one can possibly know I'm talking to myself. I'm jealous of the ladies who are able to pull that one off, because it is, in fact, a great thing to do.

Regrading the tattoo - my parents are quite the liberal type. Keep in mind, they even know that I cam and I live within the walls of their very home (they are definitely not crazy about this idea, but they tend to respect me).

Marina Starr
07-21-2013, 03:35 PM
Is there something going on with SM today? Guys just pop in and out of my room like CRAZY or they just won't talk. I had a great day but anyone notice this?

Snowy0Star
07-21-2013, 03:40 PM
Is there something going on with SM today? Guys just pop in and out of my room like CRAZY or they just won't talk. I had a great day but anyone notice this?

I doubt its the site that's causing this theyre just rude but if u say hi they leave if u dont do anything but sit there they leave too im at my wits end..... if it is the site the only thing i can think of is theyre not talking because they cant see you and the site is taking a while to load ur room on their computer and theyre getting impatient and leaving

Marina Starr
07-21-2013, 03:43 PM
They didn't even stayed for even 1 or 2 seconds! Just in and out like crazy! I won't tolerate silence though. I ban like crazy!

I doubt its the site that's causing this theyre just rude but if u say hi they leave if u dont do anything but sit there they leave too im at my wits end..... if it is the site the only thing i can think of is theyre not talking because they cant see you and the site is taking a while to load ur room on their computer and theyre getting impatient and leaving

Snowy0Star
07-21-2013, 03:45 PM
They didn't even stayed for even 1 or 2 seconds! Just in and out like crazy! I won't tolerate silence though. I ban like crazy!

yeah somethings up then maybe its that auto kick issue thats been happening a lot lately

ConnyLove
07-21-2013, 03:56 PM
Yes today has been horrible, tons of usernames appear and disappear from my room. I saw a regular popping in and out and I thought that it smelled rat and five minutes ago he sent me a message saying that every time he tries to enter into my room , he is redirected to Gold Shows countdowns. I really think I am done with SM.

temptingmodel
07-21-2013, 03:56 PM
it had to be our age, i felt the same
I read that book but I found I was saying 'yup' 'oh yes' 'done that' 'I know' etc etc, felt almost as though I'd written it myself so I didn't really learn anything from it other than the fact that I am a bitch already lol. Maybe it's my age? ;)

~Carmen~
07-21-2013, 04:10 PM
I read that book but I found I was saying 'yup' 'oh yes' 'done that' 'I know' etc etc, felt almost as though I'd written it myself so I didn't really learn anything from it other than the fact that I am a bitch already lol. Maybe it's my age? ;)

Yes. The older you get, the less you give a shit. I had a troll tell me I look older than 53 the other day. I looked at myself in the encoder and just cracked up laughing. I really don't care how old I look. I'm way beyond that. Plus, I look about 47. A very HOT 47 ;)

Marina Starr
07-21-2013, 04:15 PM
You have to be a bitch to get things done :)
No matter how good of a bitch you are, I think that book is a great refresher course nevertheless! It's about having an opinion (or in my case many opinions), a backbone and not being anyone's doormat!

I read that book but I found I was saying 'yup' 'oh yes' 'done that' 'I know' etc etc, felt almost as though I'd written it myself so I didn't really learn anything from it other than the fact that I am a bitch already lol. Maybe it's my age? ;)

Marina Starr
07-21-2013, 04:20 PM
You have truly arrived darling when you don't give two fucks what anyone says about you! You can be drop dead motherfucking gorgeous at any age. Hell, you can be a beast, absolutely atrocious at 18!

Yes. The older you get, the less you give a shit. I had a troll tell me I look older than 53 the other day. I looked at myself in the encoder and just cracked up laughing. I really don't care how old I look. I'm way beyond that. Plus, I look about 47. A very HOT 47 ;)

kittykrane
07-21-2013, 04:29 PM
I had some troll tell me today I looked like an ugly man..I don't...far from it..I mean seriously? I just ignore, no acknowledgement of his (or her) comment whatsoever...It was slow though for a sunday...I caved and did a GoldShow just to make the last little bit I needed to call it a day, because pvts just weren't happening. At least I hit my 100 Gold goal...

lifetravelergirl
07-21-2013, 07:17 PM
Why do they ask where we live?
Or if were single?
I have no idea. Nor do I question why they ask these things anymore.
I assume it's for conversational reasons.
Are you asking because you think they might have figured out your cig is fake?


They ask us where we live because they want to know if we are close enough for casual sex.

They want to know if we are single because they think they have a chance.

No.. The ones who ask what brand of cigarette I smoke never go private and consequently never see my fake cigarette.

lifetravelergirl
07-21-2013, 07:23 PM
I was just sitting yesterday thinking and I started to wonder if I was thinking about SM too much. Like the whole 35% thing the fact its slow and its summer all the site problems and freeloaders etc. It just kinda gets to me that we do so much and get much a small percent from that but if you're minute rate is higher and your cut is good does it really seem that bad? Should I be looking at it sorta like if I was a store I had to keep stuff in stock I have to pay other ppl from somewhere for it and I have to charge more then what I paid for so I make some type of profit out of it?


Any job out there is designed so that you make more for the company than you take home for yourself. The only difference between Streamate in this aspect, regarding other jobs is you know exactly what your cut is. It's a fact of life. I used to work for myself, I started my own business so I was responsible for everything, I was self-employed, I didn't have any employees except for myself. I can make more money on Streamate than I could ever make running my own home business.

That's not to say you couldn't make more working for yourself.

lifetravelergirl
07-21-2013, 07:27 PM
Some are hoping to hookup in person because SM advertised as a "free dating site".
LMFAO!

Now I feel bad for making fun of the guys who came into my free chat, trying to hook up with me and asking me what I do for a living.

Blovely
07-21-2013, 07:29 PM
You have truly arrived darling when you don't give two fucks what anyone says about you!
http://www.teamvalkyrieftw.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/preach.gif

Marina Starr
07-21-2013, 07:34 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/tumblr_mb2samHGlM1qadaewo1_500_zps80f50321.gif (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/melaniamai/media/tumblr_mb2samHGlM1qadaewo1_500_zps80f50321.gif.htm l)

http://www.teamvalkyrieftw.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/preach.gif

lifetravelergirl
07-21-2013, 07:34 PM
Streamate is probably glitchy because I have banned so many people that the software can't handle it anymore O_O .

Marina Starr
07-21-2013, 07:36 PM
Don't feel bad! You can make it up to them next time by helping them out in Exclusive :)

Now I feel bad for making fun of the guys who came into my free chat, trying to hook up with me and asking me what I do for a living.

lifetravelergirl
07-21-2013, 07:44 PM
Ok (sorry for so many posts).

What I have learned...

If something isn't working send a message to Stremate Support. If Streamate support denies your request or says it isn't their problem then send them the same message again and again until one of their good employees gets your message.


Hello,

The CPS system has been reset for your account and once you re-enable it, users will be able to use it in your paid chat areas.

Let us know if you have any further questions.

Got this finally after being told several times that nothing was wrong.

lifetravelergirl
07-21-2013, 07:45 PM
Don't feel bad! You can make it up to them next time by helping them out in Exclusive :)

Oh I assure you, they aren't there to spend money. They are only there because they got fooled into thinking it's a free dating site. O_o

temptingmodel
07-21-2013, 07:56 PM
Oh I assure you, they aren't there to spend money. They are only there because they got fooled into thinking it's a free dating site. O_o
their intention is not to spend money, 100% correct
BUT
it is so easy to convert them, the problem is in paid chat all they want to talk about is meeting up. Hell, i let them talk :)

Marina Starr
07-21-2013, 09:50 PM
And turn them out!

their intention is not to spend money, 100% correct
BUT
it is so easy to convert them, the problem is in paid chat all they want to talk about is meeting up. Hell, i let them talk :)

justanothercamgirl
07-21-2013, 10:13 PM
I would say that also would depend on your regular rates! I've seen guys throw in $50, $100+ toward GS before!

I am not knocking you or anyone that's asking for $1.

I am not knocking anyone for asking for more either.

Anyway you want to hustle girls is fine by me. ;)

lifetravelergirl
07-22-2013, 12:32 AM
Because when they don't pay $1 to do it then it reflects badly on them and shows them for the freeloader/cheapskate they are. If you ask for more then they just bitchy and whine about the price.

(Disclaimer: I ask for $1 to start my GS. LOL!)


If I asked for a dollar to start my gold show I would make like ninety cents per gold show.

Nina_Den
07-22-2013, 02:54 AM
Can't believe I've Cam Anxiety.
Haven't been on in 3 days, and now, freshly showered and about to start getting ready for cam, I got stomach cramps, nausea and am feeling like this is the last thing in the world I should be doing. Never happened before. I need something to calm me down, but I don't know what. /:O