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lifetravelergirl
09-03-2013, 12:58 PM
When you girls are getting ready for work. Stop thinking about what you are going to do in free chat, or what you are going to do in gold show countdowns. Train your mind to think about how it will feel AFTER you get those big paid shows, and believe that you will receive it.

I read this forum and I notice how much focus is put into "FREE CHAT" and entertaining in "GOLD SHOW COUNTDOWNS". If your minds are only on those two things, then you will get more of that = waiting for money.

If your minds are on getting PAID, then you will get more of getting PAID! Focus on the END result. Not on the things you do leading to the end result.


My technique is much more "organic", I run out of steam and need to chill out in free chat. I will give a run down of what I am going to do but sometimes I just sit there and relax, maybe mention I am catching my breath. Sometimes I put on some music and dance. But I do try to tell them what they want to hear. I remember a while back I wrote a story and a friend critiqued it and told me that I gave it all away too fast and how I needed to keep them guessing longer. I think perhaps an element of success is the ability to create an aura of mystique. So how would one do that?

I suppose that not showing it all in free chat would be pretty basic to that idea but beyond that avoid concrete conversations except when absolutely necessary.

When I cam I play a character, one that does not exist in real life. Getting into character requires the ability to relax internally and not go in with a lot of preconceived ideas. When I am in character guys eat it up. If things get mundane I relax, play a song, dance, have a sip of water and act as though the free chat is there to entertain me, because it is.

Snowy0Star
09-03-2013, 12:58 PM
"ummmm hmmmm ok but I got your money".


um no u dont have my money my payoneer card does bitch .

Sensuella
09-03-2013, 05:28 PM
Well, I got my feet wet tonight on SM. My very first paid premium session was only a minute and a half long, which meant I made a whole whopping $2.26...wow, almost enough for a milkshake at McDonald's. And it was just to watch a guy's cam of him jerking off his long skinny penis. Please tell me it gets easier!

anonymous camgirl
09-03-2013, 06:29 PM
oh if you are using the HD encoder, you have to ask for a break button. Which means you can pause your live feed and if they are members logged in they will see you on break...LOL.. I use it ALOT!... and in this case you will have one pic you pick from your profile all the time.

Can anyone please tell me if there's a setting to make it so SM sticks with your profile photo in the listings, rather than a screenshot of your current live show? They always take the most unappealing shots, whereas my profile photo is something I feel people will actually click on. It never used to do this, in my case...

anonymous camgirl
09-03-2013, 06:31 PM
NO all cam sites used to offer 50% or more over 10 yrs ago. I have seen nothing but less and less since. Companies never go backwards.. have you seen gas go down to 99 cents a gallon again?? or them lowering the cost of food cuz gas prices were so high?? NOPE everything is just as much as it was the beginning of the recession.


Do you think there will ever come a time when SM offers a higher amount of pay percentage to its models? I've always thought, regardless of the company, that 50% is only fair, as the models cumulatively put in just as much work and contribute just as much overall as the company itself.

justanothercamgirl
09-03-2013, 06:42 PM
Well, I got my feet wet tonight on SM. My very first paid premium session was only a minute and a half long, which meant I made a whole whopping $2.26...wow, almost enough for a milkshake at McDonald's. And it was just to watch a guy's cam of him jerking off his long skinny penis. Please tell me it gets easier!

You just had to watch him and not do anything else?

Um.....I am not sure how to let you know this......um, that was the easy part.

Procrasturbator
09-03-2013, 06:58 PM
You just had to watch him and not do anything else?

Um.....I am not sure how to let you know this......um, that was the easy part.

MTE. At least it wasn't exclusive so he didn't clear out your room. Send him my way, I'll take that milkshake!

Seriously though, stay on and it adds up. I was really surprised when I was reviewing my earnings from my last shift and only 4 sessions were over $10 (my cut.) The 16 other <$10 sessions made most of my money that night. You'll also get 45+ minute exclusives sometimes. It's just the nature of the business.

GlamourRouge
09-03-2013, 07:23 PM
NO all cam sites used to offer 50% or more over 10 yrs ago. I have seen nothing but less and less since. Companies never go backwards.. have you seen gas go down to 99 cents a gallon again?? or them lowering the cost of food cuz gas prices were so high?? NOPE everything is just as much as it was the beginning of the recession.

What's kind of scary is, inflation goes up, and sexworker pay goes down. Kinda scary.

Procrasturbator
09-03-2013, 07:39 PM
What's kind of scary is, inflation goes up, and sexworker pay goes down. Kinda scary.

Speaking of, does anyone know of any resources for sex work prices through the ages?

Obviously camming is fairly recent so it would have a short history, but in general it would be fascinating. The only thing I can think of is an image from a page recently linked on here that was a cover of a book (maybe from the 40's, I'd say?) that said something like "She charges $50 a night... but all of her clients agree that she's worth it!" Which comes out to around $500 or a little more nowadays and is actually pretty comparable to today's rates. I'd love to see what women were charging way back when but I have no idea where to start googling something like that.

(Sorry for the totally non-SM-related threadjack, this just piqued my interest!)

GlamourRouge
09-03-2013, 07:44 PM
Speaking of, does anyone know of any resources for sex work prices through the ages?

Obviously camming is fairly recent so it would have a short history, but in general it would be fascinating. The only thing I can think of is an image from a page recently linked on here that was a cover of a book (maybe from the 40's, I'd say?) that said something like "She charges $50 a night... but all of her clients agree that she's worth it!" Which comes out to around $500 or a little more nowadays and is actually pretty comparable to today's rates. I'd love to see what women were charging way back when but I have no idea where to start googling something like that.

(Sorry for the totally non-SM-related threadjack, this just piqued my interest!)

I don't think there is one. But the more taboo it is, the more you can charge. And well, its not that taboo anymore. Camming is just about as taboo as it can get (unless you escort doing toilet stuff or something I guess) because you are able to tap people and markets around the world who are not able to get other kind of sexwork, so its still taboo to them.

KittyAudrey
09-03-2013, 08:19 PM
MTE. At least it wasn't exclusive so he didn't clear out your room. Send him my way, I'll take that milkshake!

Seriously though, stay on and it adds up. I was really surprised when I was reviewing my earnings from my last shift and only 4 sessions were over $10 (my cut.) The 16 other <$10 sessions made most of my money that night. You'll also get 45+ minute exclusives sometimes. It's just the nature of the business.


This is very true. Yesterday was Very hard for me, I had to pull in extra hours to make my goal... I was actually short from it by 5 bucks lol, and yeah Im laughing now but yesterday I was so grumpy...
But today, today. A hour and half of delicious payed conversation with the nicest guy. I learned that we must keep going, even after a bad day when you did everything "the right way" and still everything sucked for you, sometimes magic can happen that reminds you why you love the job. :D

Sensuella
09-03-2013, 08:47 PM
Justanothercamgirl and Procrasturbator--That's true, I see what you ladies mean. I didn't even have to take my clothes off. This job is just going to take some getting used to. I have not seen another man's penis besides my husband's in 13 years, so to watch one for 2 bucks is just something I never thought would happen :) If someone had told me this time last year that I'd ever even be considering sex work, I'd have thought they'd lost their mind. But life circumstances have changed my thinking on this, and this a job offering a service like anything else. No different than a proctologist having to look at assholes all day for a living. I really feel like once I get used to it, it will be much better. Then seeing somebody wanking their weiner will be like a Burger King employee just seeing another hamburger haha. And I'm sure that's mild compared to the strange requests I will encounter. By the way, you smart ladies on here have really helped me more than you know, the advice on here is golden. Already had somebody who kept trying to scam me into doing things in free chat today that would've got me banned (supposedly for 1,000 Gold, AFTER I did it! Yeah right--I'm new,not stupid) but I knew better . Just as I was figuring out the 'ban hammer', the asshole left. So thanks! Now I got to just learn how to hustle.

justanothercamgirl
09-03-2013, 09:13 PM
Justanothercamgirl and Procrasturbator--That's true, I see what you ladies mean. I didn't even have to take my clothes off. This job is just going to take some getting used to. I have not seen another man's penis besides my husband's in 13 years, so to watch one for 2 bucks is just something I never thought would happen :) If someone had told me this time last year that I'd ever even be considering sex work, I'd have thought they'd lost their mind. But life circumstances have changed my thinking on this, and this a job offering a service like anything else. No different than a proctologist having to look at assholes all day for a living. I really feel like once I get used to it, it will be much better. Then seeing somebody wanking their weiner will be like a Burger King employee just seeing another hamburger haha. And I'm sure that's mild compared to the strange requests I will encounter. By the way, you smart ladies on here have really helped me more than you know, the advice on here is golden. Already had somebody who kept trying to scam me into doing things in free chat today that would've got me banned (supposedly for 1,000 Gold, AFTER I did it! Yeah right--I'm new,not stupid) but I knew better . Just as I was figuring out the 'ban hammer', the asshole left. So thanks! Now I got to just learn how to hustle.

I truly hope that I didn't come off really rude or mean. I honestly was not sure how to break it to you that 'it was the easy part.'

Look at it this way......you got paid $2 for a minute and a half of work. Do what you just did again for 60 minutes and you'll have $120 in your pocket.

Doesn't seem so awful when you look at it that way, huh? ;)

Sensuella
09-03-2013, 09:36 PM
Oh, don't worry, you didn't come off rude at all. You're just telling the truth. That's what I love about this forum. And you are absolutely right on 2 bucks being good for that amount of time! It does add up.

VictoriaChaos
09-04-2013, 06:17 AM
Yes!
Got my rates maxed last night.
Hell yeah!
Let's keep going with this awesome September.

SillyCamgirl
09-04-2013, 09:39 AM
Sensuella: I'm new as well, and my first night was strange. I think my higher rates help weed out assholes, too. I don't know what you charge but don't be afraid to go for it!
I somehow thought my first few nights would not be any different, because I had done so much research. But my personality really took a few days to come through on cam, and that's when I started getting the coolest customers.

You will have boring requests to "rate my dick", "spread pussy", etc. then, someone fabulous and completely out of the ordinary will make a request that will make your night. The stuff people come up with can be amazing. I've had a guy write a little tune for me and play it, a few guys pay me to change clothes and tease, and a guy who wanted me to tell him a sexy story with my clothes on. Another took me exclusive because I said i didnt have a chance to get off all night. he paid me for twelve minutes to watch me masturbate. My absolute best time was the sweet man who wanted me to read his unique fictional scenarios out loud while laughing at him and making fun of him. He was a total doll.

The cool, considerate clients are what make it worthwhile and interesting for me, and you will get them, too! Just wait till guys start paying to call you "Goddess". Paycheck and ego boost? Yes please!

Cognac
09-04-2013, 12:22 PM
Hey ladies
im new what should i charge for just starting out? Ill tell you all a little about myself.

*using i5 processor
*logitech c920
*23
*fast internet
*medium build
*ebony section
*do fetishes n so on but dont do extreme like fisting but will do something like dp
*lighting and toys

thanks you ladies for you time :)

CurvyWinona
09-04-2013, 12:50 PM
you should charge at the rate you feel you should be at. do not go too cheap. do at the max now and ask for increase by email support after a while. :)

laurielegs
09-04-2013, 01:04 PM
you should charge at the rate you feel you should be at. do not go too cheap. do at the max now and ask for increase by email support after a while. :)

I agree! There are recordings (advertising supposedly, but guys pay and watch them) charging 4.99!! so charge at least that!

Procrasturbator
09-04-2013, 03:27 PM
If your equipment's great (and it sounds like it is) I would charge at least $4.99 and go from there.

If after a few shifts you aren't making the money you'd like you can always drop your prices a bit (which isn't a popular practice around here but it worked for me back when my equipment sucked.) But start high, it sucks to look at your earnings and think about the money you could have made if you'd charged more.

euaici
09-04-2013, 03:35 PM
i thin this is the only way to fnd out things..unless, in countries where sexwork was legal, u want to look at archives from the local version of the IRS, those would prbably be the most accurate for such details.Also, the authorities that were responsible might have kept records.

Probably these are not on the internet though.

I like to look up details about famous courtesans - the ones who coud get a palace from a smitten client - but of course, those were never average.


Speaking of, does anyone know of any resources for sex work prices through the ages?

Obviously camming is fairly recent so it would have a short history, but in general it would be fascinating. The only thing I can think of is an image from a page recently linked on here that was a cover of a book (maybe from the 40's, I'd say?) that said something like "She charges $50 a night... but all of her clients agree that she's worth it!" Which comes out to around $500 or a little more nowadays and is actually pretty comparable to today's rates. I'd love to see what women were charging way back when but I have no idea where to start googling something like that.

(Sorry for the totally non-SM-related threadjack, this just piqued my interest!)

KittyAudrey
09-04-2013, 03:39 PM
If your equipment's great (and it sounds like it is) I would charge at least $4.99 and go from there.

If after a few shifts you aren't making the money you'd like you can always drop your prices a bit (which isn't a popular practice around here but it worked for me back when my equipment sucked.) But start high, it sucks to look at your earnings and think about the money you could have made if you'd charged more.

I suddenly feel Im charging too little....

Cognac
09-04-2013, 04:55 PM
thanks ladies 4.99 it is i was charging 2.99 and made like over 139 in 3 hours so I hope going to 4.99 has some awesome benefits thanks ladies for the prompt response absolutely love this forum

rachelleigh
09-04-2013, 06:25 PM
Gold show question! Do you guys find you do better when you set your goal to 150 or 200 or something else higher but start the show at 60 or 75 (or whatever you're comfortable with) or do you find you do better when you set your goal under a hundred (90, 75, 50)? I rarely hit goal when I set it to 150. I worry my setting my goal that high is intimidating but setting it to like 60 makes me look like I won't put on a good show because I'm only worth 60 gold, if that makes sense.

GlamourRouge
09-04-2013, 11:06 PM
^^^ Charging higher prices does not always mean making more money. The higher you charge, the less likely a guy is to afford it. So if you charge too much, it often means 1 guy in private (group) mode versus like 5 guys in private (group) mode at the same time. It just depends.

JaneBurgess
09-05-2013, 12:08 AM
So I learned tonight that the people in free chat can watch my private shows. I was logged into classic chat and the people in free chat were telling me they like what I was doing while I was in a private show. So I told them to tell me what they see. They honestly could see into my show and saw everything I was doing. One guy said it's been happening for a week or two. Seriously. I love doing free cam shows and losing out on a lot of money. Yes I sent tech support a message but I am still pissed. Worst glitch ever.

jackandcoke
09-05-2013, 12:47 AM
WTF Jane really???? That's complete bullshit! People leave during my pvts so I am guessing they aren't seeing? Hmmm.

SunnyAlice
09-05-2013, 02:00 AM
I've had people coming in my free chat whilst i'm in private chat. Not sure if they can see anything, most of them just disappear in a few seconds. Still weird they can enter, no? Hmmm!

Snowy0Star
09-05-2013, 02:09 AM
I've had people coming in my free chat whilst i'm in private chat. Not sure if they can see anything, most of them just disappear in a few seconds. Still weird they can enter, no? Hmmm!

its not weird how else would they be about to hop into ur show when ur in a pvt if they cant get into ur free chat? if ur premium they can get into ur free chat because thats the only way they can join in if they want to when ur in exclusive they cant

rachelleigh
09-05-2013, 02:11 AM
I've had people coming in my free chat whilst i'm in private chat. Not sure if they can see anything, most of them just disappear in a few seconds. Still weird they can enter, no? Hmmm!

I think that's just people clicking your name and getting the "I'm in a private show!" window. If they stay for a bit, they're probably perusing photos/comments...or leaving immediately.

Snowy0Star
09-05-2013, 02:21 AM
I think that's just people clicking your name and getting the "I'm in a private show!" window. If they stay for a bit, they're probably perusing photos/comments...or leaving immediately.

this ^ most ppl will not join in ur pvt but the window shoppers may sometimes browse by looking at ur pix and the comments/ratings then try and come back when ur back in free chat

jackandcoke
09-05-2013, 09:12 AM
I just got approved for Gold Shows...but uh...I don't...want.....them.

Does anyone do well with these?? Also it says I can't use a wireless connection and that's....not an option for me. So...I guess is it worth it if you can't use wireless, esp? I have zero interest in doing all that work and then getting disconnected and making nothing...

DiamondCupcakes
09-05-2013, 09:28 AM
I had some issues yesterday with sound in pvts and gold shows. Sound worked fin in free chat then would go mute for GS and some pvts. I dunno what silly things are going on now

SadieTaylor
09-05-2013, 09:36 AM
This may be a dumb question, but I haven't gotten my check from last week so I contacted support and know that I can have is reissued, but my question is on my payment history page that shows when our checks were issued right? So if they did send my last check it would be on that page correct? I don't see it there or my one from this week. I wonder if it got lost in the mail or if they just didn't send it, because I remember seeing my checks posted on that page before I even get them.

temptingmodel
09-05-2013, 10:54 AM
there was a holiday this week

If it is not on your payout page, no , they have not sent it

bigbootyjudy1
09-05-2013, 11:17 AM
Its sad to say ive giving up on SM .I have a new cam home and im lovin it.Whenever your ready to make me some decent money streamate I'll come back home to you.You know what they say " home is where the heart is".I love you Streamate but i got bills and a kid to feed.

temptingmodel
09-05-2013, 01:00 PM
Man, I hate to hear this. :( its like losing a family member

I hope the new digs (site) treats you well :)

Its sad to say ive giving up on SM .I have a new cam home and im lovin it.Whenever your ready to make me some decent money streamate I'll come back home to you.You know what they say " home is where the heart is".I love you Streamate but i got bills and a kid to feed.

SadieTaylor
09-05-2013, 01:42 PM
Thanks. I emailed them again, because ti doesn't show that my check from the week of aug 18th has been sent.
there was a holiday this week

If it is not on your payout page, no , they have not sent it

SadieTaylor
09-05-2013, 01:43 PM
Thanks. I emailed them again, because it doesn't show that my check from the week of aug 18th has been sent.
there was a holiday this week

If it is not on your payout page, no , they have not sent it

shysara79
09-05-2013, 02:39 PM
I am soooo over SM and 14% paid chat.

rachelleigh
09-05-2013, 03:23 PM
I just got approved for Gold Shows...but uh...I don't...want.....them.

Does anyone do well with these?? Also it says I can't use a wireless connection and that's....not an option for me. So...I guess is it worth it if you can't use wireless, esp? I have zero interest in doing all that work and then getting disconnected and making nothing...

Back when I was on all the time, I did really well with them, and I wasn't selling videos. I was doing 2-3 shows an hour, between 6 and 8 minutes a show, and making 60-100 bucks an hour. But I had a ton of regulars who would put in and try to beat each other out for high tipper. I came back like a week ago and tried to continue with that method...it's kind of a failure now lol, since I don't have the high tippers anymore. I pull about 40-70 gold a show, which is less. I've found for me they work best at night and during weekend nights especially. I have trouble putting them together early.

I've gotten disconnected once, was pissed beyond, but they all understood and re-tipped in. That was when I switched to a beefier computer. I use wireless but have awesome internet.

PrincessLavender
09-05-2013, 05:36 PM
I just got approved for Gold Shows...but uh...I don't...want.....them.

Does anyone do well with these?? Also it says I can't use a wireless connection and that's....not an option for me. So...I guess is it worth it if you can't use wireless, esp? I have zero interest in doing all that work and then getting disconnected and making nothing...

I've done a couple veyeur gold shows and use wireless with no problem.

temptingmodel
09-05-2013, 06:50 PM
I have come to the conclusion wireless or not , shows will drop the encoder every so often. wireless just ensures a stable connection to the internet, not the encoder :)

jackandcoke
09-05-2013, 06:55 PM
Yeahhhh....I don't know. I like the way things are working for me on SM right now. I think I will hold off on opting in for Gold Shows.

JaneBurgess
09-05-2013, 08:05 PM
Damn sorry to see you go. So many performers I know have quit or cut their time on there down a lot. Good luck on your new site.




Its sad to say ive giving up on SM .I have a new cam home and im lovin it.Whenever your ready to make me some decent money streamate I'll come back home to you.You know what they say " home is where the heart is".I love you Streamate but i got bills and a kid to feed.

autumn_rose
09-05-2013, 11:49 PM
i also did not get paid for this week (aug 18). highly irritated with this. i just asked they reissued the check, but seriously 25$? How much does it cost them to reissue a check ffs lol. streamate allows way too many freeloaders for me to be dealin with this imo they need to change something asap
Thanks. I emailed them again, because ti doesn't show that my check from the week of aug 18th has been sent.

POVCouple
09-06-2013, 04:08 AM
EDIT: Just found out that there´s a payoneer thread in another zone of the forum,i tried to search before asking but was only searching in the cam area,i will ask the same question there. Sorry :-[

Hi!

We have been lurking this forum for some time and it has helped us a lot to get started in this,so thank you for all the help someone starting in this job can get here. But we still have some doubts and questions,if anyone can help us it would be great :)

Last week was our first week working on SM and altought we reachead the limit we thought it would take 3 weeks to get our first payment,but in streamate they say they send the money to our payoneer acount today,does anyone here knows how long does it take to reach payoneer? In payoneer it says that depending on the sender it can take from 1 to 7 business days,just wondering how long does it take from streamate?

By the way what do you think is the best way to get paid when not in the USA,we live in europe so we choosed payoneer because we figured that checks would get lost a lot,but maybe someone more experienced knows a better way :-\

Thank you :)

blondhottie
09-06-2013, 01:31 PM
Going to try out SM for the first time tonight-wish me luck! I always get nervous when I'm trying out a new camsite LOL. :) I've cammed on MFC and Chaturbate before, but it seems like SM has a totally different vibe from what I've read-more about private shows.

JoyKitten
09-06-2013, 06:08 PM
Good luck! I hope your first night you'll feel comfortable and successful on SM.

JoyKitten
09-06-2013, 06:39 PM
it doesn't sound smart assed but i do it because i pay 20 bucks for 4 months to have it vs 50 bucks for a month of a real phone i cant afford it. im considering getting a throw away phone and use pre pay cards but im wondering if its worth it when im charging 3.99 a min for exclusive and i only do phone on exclusive

I have an ATT landline, but I ordered the cheapest line -- telling the ATT clerk I just wanted it for emergencies if the world came to an end. LOL
It offers about 60 local outbound calls a month & no long distance.... so maybe it's not good for people with kids or visitors who may use it by accident (I only have it plugged in AT my desk to avoid this problem.) The 'emergency service' gives unlimited incoming calls (which is really all I want if for.... but I don't tell ATT that =)
I think it's costing me about $20 a month, but of course it's for business and, being a dedicated land line, crystal clear for my custies calling in on SM phone.

Besides that, I do have a Google Voice line, which is hooked up to my Droid phone*, but more importantly hooked up to my ATT landline.
I have the Google Voice number set from my computer to ring onto that ATT landline too, which means the calls are really clear, and FREE because they're INCOMING from Google Voice to the ATT line.

I've found that ATT will wheel & deal with their prices if you tell them you only need emergency service (limited outgoing). Work it into your convo with them, confirming that what they're selling you has has unlimited incoming calls. If that's the case the emergency line is a fantastic deal.

*The Droid Google Voice app will allow you to make calls from your cell but it will register to those receiving the calls as coming from your untraceable Google Voice number. You create a Google Voice number from your gMail/Google Plus account. While signed into your gMail account, use Google to search: Google Voice. It will offer you a video telling you what Google Voice is (really cool) and how to sign-up.

Hope that helps fighting ATT =)