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autumn_rose
09-18-2013, 07:57 PM
just wait its all u can do theyre probably backed up

Probably from all of my emails. SORRY!!! :P

audritwo
09-18-2013, 08:20 PM
So was looking over the code content because I just wanted to refresh my mind. And I noticed fisting was on there. So it's okay for girls to put baseball bats and cans up their butt and cooter... But heaven forbid if it's their own fist. I don't understand this. Can someone give me some logic behind this?

Cam_Model_Jess
09-18-2013, 08:31 PM
I think the no fisting rule is new? The TV rules are different. Not sure if you're referring to those. In which case, there are lots more rules about what you can't use (power tools, furniture...)

SweetPinkCupcake
09-18-2013, 08:43 PM
Fisting breaks obscenity laws in the US

Cam_Model_Jess
09-18-2013, 10:04 PM
Huh. Guess I missed that one o.O

MissMorvahna
09-18-2013, 10:07 PM
Can someone explain gold shows to me?

JaneBurgess
09-18-2013, 10:26 PM
They may not have thought about bats and cans at the time. Damn I wouldn't have thought to add those to the rules either.



So was looking over the code content because I just wanted to refresh my mind. And I noticed fisting was on there. So it's okay for girls to put baseball bats and cans up their butt and cooter... But heaven forbid if it's their own fist. I don't understand this. Can someone give me some logic behind this?

~Carmen~
09-19-2013, 05:33 AM
What about traffic cones?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-19-2013, 06:03 AM
What about traffic cones?

Or what about the winner from this Summer's Biggest Zucchini Contest?

Noelle_Noir
09-19-2013, 06:40 AM
So was looking over the code content because I just wanted to refresh my mind. And I noticed fisting was on there. So it's okay for girls to put baseball bats and cans up their butt and cooter... But heaven forbid if it's their own fist. I don't understand this. Can someone give me some logic behind this?

What if they get stuck!? I mean what if a girl was on cam fisting herself and her hand got stuck??? Omfg...LOL

Noelle_Noir
09-19-2013, 06:40 AM
So was looking over the code content because I just wanted to refresh my mind. And I noticed fisting was on there. So it's okay for girls to put baseball bats and cans up their butt and cooter... But heaven forbid if it's their own fist. I don't understand this. Can someone give me some logic behind this?

What if they get stuck!? I mean what if a girl was on cam fisting herself and her hand got stuck??? Omfg...LOL

Snowy0Star
09-19-2013, 06:59 AM
What if they get stuck!? I mean what if a girl was on cam fisting herself and her hand got stuck??? Omfg...LOL

that would be a very awkward 911 call and er visit ...

Lolitakitty
09-19-2013, 07:11 AM
How would she even reach her phone? ...just think about the stitches she would need.

xXMamiXx
09-19-2013, 07:16 AM
ladiiiiiies

oooooweeee whatever has been goin on with SM I am about to work out how to split-cam on my mac... per minute rates are high enough to make a good earning nonetheless at a slower hustle, but I am all lucked out on traffic for Goldshows for the time being. I don't do them for less than $100 for my own reasons but I'm only getting to half that at mo...

so I gots to flip this tish !

xXMamiXx
09-19-2013, 07:21 AM
Oh look, SM support emailed me back....

Everyone is a 4 when they start out, or if you have not received at least 5 ratings over a period of 90 days or more-- until you have a total of 5 paid ratings within 90 days, which then shows an average. The average looks at the last 90 days. We encourage performers to ask members to rate them while in paid chat.

The average will display as a 4 star until you've reached the minimum number of ratings, which is 5 within a 90 day time frame. So, once you get a few more ratings your average will go back up.Everyone is a 4 when they start out, or if you have not received at least 5 ratings over a period of 90 days or more-- until you have a total of 5 paid ratings within 90 days, which then shows an average. The average looks at the last 90 days. We encourage performers to ask members to rate them while in paid chat.

The average will display as a 4 star until you've reached the minimum number of ratings, which is 5 within a 90 day time frame. So, once you get a few more ratings your average will go back up.

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That COMPLETELY answers my question about if you don't get a rating in the first 30 days if you default back to 4 stars since that is the question I emailed them.

Whatever.....I give up. Not worth my time at this point.

So you should have your 5 ratings now, surely. I swear you said you had like 8 or so in your OP. Keep at em bubba x

Cam_Model_Jess
09-19-2013, 07:44 AM
[...]That COMPLETELY answers my question about if you don't get a rating in the first 30 days if you default back to 4 stars since that is the question I emailed them.

Whatever.....I give up. Not worth my time at this point.

See my post on ratings in the SM Verified thread. Might answer your question?

kittykrane
09-19-2013, 07:50 AM
This week has been slow....where the hell are all the guys?

Snowy0Star
09-19-2013, 07:52 AM
This week has been slow....where the hell are all the guys?

either day times are just better for me overall or things have made an improvement since labor day the first two week ok this month were HELL and things seem to be picking up hang in there

bigbootyjudy1
09-19-2013, 07:59 AM
Im going to experiment with my prices today.Its been over a year since i experimented with them.Right now im at 4.99/5.99.Im going to lower them down to 2.99/5.99 .I will not use toys in pvt only in excl.Let see if i get more than one person in pvt at 2.99.I'll will report back to see if its better to keep it high or to keep it low.If you wanna do this ladies.I suggest in pvt you only do vanilla stuff like flashes,dancing,jerk off instruction.dirty talking.But if they want you to masturbate or use toys,cum shows or fetishes make them pay double.Also while in pvt i'm going to take my time with everything i do.Instead of rushing, since their broke ass is paying next to nothing for my time ;DThis experiment is only for a day.I dont know i might like it.Im just tired of having to penetrate myself every freaking private.Anything that can help with that im down.

SoloDesire
09-19-2013, 09:17 AM
Im going to experiment with my prices today.Its been over a year since i experimented with them.Right now im at 4.99/5.99.Im going to lower them down to 2.99/5.99 .I will not use toys in pvt only in excl.Let see if i get more than one person in pvt at 2.99.I'll will report back to see if its better to keep it high or to keep it low.If you wanna do this ladies.I suggest in pvt you only do vanilla stuff like flashes,dancing,jerk off instruction.dirty talking.But if they want you to masturbate or use toys,cum shows or fetishes make them pay double.Also while in pvt i'm going to take my time with everything i do.Instead of rushing, since their broke ass is paying next to nothing for my time ;DThis experiment is only for a day.I dont know i might like it.Im just tired of having to penetrate myself every freaking private.Anything that can help with that im down.

I do the same thing, but with mild finger play in private...but my prices are at $5.99 pvt and $7.99 exc. They'll still pay!

xXMamiXx
09-19-2013, 09:25 AM
my rates are 8.49 and 9.99 I might drop as an experiment. but i might not ; )

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-19-2013, 09:38 AM
I just got back on SM and was suprised at the prices I saw for my niche. I think they are down from last year? Actually I was brokenhearted at what I found, LMAO no not really. I wish more ladies charged the rates I see posted in this thread. Yeah Yeah Yeah dont pay attention to what everyone else is doing. I know. But I had to know so I created a customer account this morning, because yesterday I kept getting "Damn you charge waaay more than the rest of them". I was shocked to find out that they were right. But that doesn't mean Im going to lower my prices. Fuck no! I'm gonna go out and get another floor lamp,some sexy panties and lipgloss to justify my rates.....and a bottle of wine!

Graceface
09-19-2013, 09:49 AM
Out of 4.99 a minute, you only get to keep 1.74. That's bullshit.

I know they take the hit for chargebacks, bandwidth, customer/model service (lol), web design, server maintenance, blah, blah, blah, but the model should be making 50% at the least.

I really look forward to the day when this industry starts acting professionally.

xXMamiXx
09-19-2013, 09:51 AM
sounds right girl ! I focused on lighting and also took some semi-pro pics... i got some artsy friends in and we took some fab pics which i use as my profile and for all my promo media. if anything it just boosted my confidence with my prices i think the lowest i will temporarily go is 6.99 (i have my reasons, everyone is different) x x x

xXMamiXx
09-19-2013, 10:13 AM
exactly. my rates are dictated by the amount the website takes. pretty much nothing else.


Out of 4.99 a minute, you only get to keep 1.74. That's bullshit.

I know they take the hit for chargebacks, bandwidth, customer/model service (lol), web design, server maintenance, blah, blah, blah, but the model should be making 50% at the least.

I really look forward to the day when this industry starts acting professionally.

Busygirl
09-19-2013, 11:07 AM
I experimented with the 2 99 rate. I was super busy for 2 days, got some low ratings, then it died down, and i felt bad, because the cheapos already spent their money, so privates died down, and i was asked to make a better price for them, lmao. And my ego took a hit from sitting in free chat at 2 99, lol.

Busygirl
09-19-2013, 11:09 AM
The same guys that are cheap in your room, and you are lowering your rates for, are paying 9.99 and higher gladly in another girls room without complaining. Think about it.

Snowy0Star
09-19-2013, 11:14 AM
I experimented with the 2 99 rate. I was super busy for 2 days, got some low ratings, then it died down, and i felt bad, because the cheapos already spent their money, so privates died down, and i was asked to make a better price for them, lmao. And my ego took a hit from sitting in free chat at 2 99, lol.

cheap rates attract cheap men theres a fine line in being cheap resonible and expensive reasonible and expensive are fine i think anything 2.99 and under u get the cheapos even tho im honestly at 2.99 im going to working up to 3.99 then keeping them that way while i work on my placement and work up to 5.99. but im going to try 3.49 next week and see how it goes .

AmberAustin
09-19-2013, 11:26 AM
Can anyone give me info specifically about transgender camgirls on SM? I've been streaming for a week and a half now and I consistently appear on the top row of the Transgender section whenever I'm on. I'm trying to build confidence to raise my rates higher than they are now (2.09/3.14) and I don't know when/if I should. Also why is there a much larger Transsexual section? :O

Snowy0Star
09-19-2013, 11:30 AM
Can anyone give me info specifically about transgender camgirls on SM? I've been streaming for a week and a half now and I consistently appear on the top row of the Transgender section whenever I'm on. I'm trying to build confidence to raise my rates higher than they are now (2.09/3.14) and I don't know when/if I should. Also why is there a much larger Transsexual section? :O

um well ur a niche/fetish guys should be paying up the ass for you raise ur rates to 3.99 and 5.99 or 6.99 i think exclusive should be min $2 more then premium preferably $3 so u get $1 more a min ur share if they want it they'll pay it.

xXMamiXx
09-19-2013, 11:45 AM
CO SIGN


I actually see Gold Shows as food for the cheap pigs. And I've decided when it's slow an I can't gather enough of them I just tell them, look, YOU GUYS start the gold show. When enough of you want it, I'll start the counter.


Everything else is pricey !! Argument I remembered was think how much a guy will spend on games consoles, alcohol and so on. If ur offering quality entertainment and company, you should charge the same and more than they pay for their recreation and leisure. IMO.


When I started camming and first thing I did was raise my rate capability to 12.99.


If they think it's too much, I offer them gold shows, if the gold shows don't happen, fuck em, I sit and talk shit with the freeloaders to pass the time while i wait for the big spenders to arrive, coz u can milk em extra for as much as the cheapos will spend in no time anyway ?


Sometimes it's surefire everything is easy stack stack stack/sometimes it's a waiting game but you still bank. All depends how much time we have to make it work on a given day I suppose x



The same guys that are cheap in your room, and you are lowering your rates for, are paying 9.99 and higher gladly in another girls room without complaining. Think about it.

xXMamiXx
09-19-2013, 11:52 AM
Raise em baby

Like Snowy says at least double them


Can anyone give me info specifically about transgender camgirls on SM? I've been streaming for a week and a half now and I consistently appear on the top row of the Transgender section whenever I'm on. I'm trying to build confidence to raise my rates higher than they are now (2.09/3.14) and I don't know when/if I should. Also why is there a much larger Transsexual section? :O

AmberAustin
09-19-2013, 12:18 PM
From reading threads here I was pretty sure that was going to be the response :) I'm just worried about the fact that there seems to be tons of competition at 1.99 and I'm afraid of losing the few regulars I've gotten so far.

Snowy0Star
09-19-2013, 12:24 PM
From reading threads here I was pretty sure that was going to be the response :) I'm just worried about the fact that there seems to be tons of competition at 1.99 and I'm afraid of losing the few regulars I've gotten so far.

i dont want to offend you but a lot of trans on the site arent in the west part of the world a lot barely speak english and live in areas that they can get by with how little they get and generally 1.99 and below even non trans female cam models are at that price because of the language barrier. do u know enuf english to fully communicate with ur paying viewers can u get by with what ur making now at the rates u are now? im almost positive the answers to both those questions are yes and no so ... RAISE UR RATES GIRLY

xXMamiXx
09-19-2013, 12:25 PM
but there is competition at the higher rates too, right? try it for one week ?

if you really wanted you could ask ur old regulars to PM you (should they even mention it) and lower your rates for them. but honestly, i don't think it's even necessary. let them pay more or lose them... wait for new game }:D


From reading threads here I was pretty sure that was going to be the response :) I'm just worried about the fact that there seems to be tons of competition at 1.99 and I'm afraid of losing the few regulars I've gotten so far.

SillyCamgirl
09-19-2013, 12:27 PM
From reading threads here I was pretty sure that was going to be the response :) I'm just worried about the fact that there seems to be tons of competition at 1.99 and I'm afraid of losing the few regulars I've gotten so far.

hey fuck those guys, you'll keep them or get new regulars and either way you'll make more money. You are a goddamn sexy commodity. Don't undervalue yourself.

edit: I am filled with swears today

AmberAustin
09-19-2013, 12:37 PM
i dont want to offend you but a lot of trans on the site arent in the west part of the world a lot barely speak english and live in areas that they can get by with how little they get and generally 1.99 and below even non trans female cam models are at that price because of the language barrier. do u know enuf english to fully communicate with ur paying viewers can u get by with what ur making now at the rates u are now? im almost positive the answers to both those questions are yes and no so ... RAISE UR RATES GIRLY

You're right about the answers, I'm American :) I don't really need the money to get by (for a while at least) but it's definitely nice to have! I bumped my rates up a bit more and I'll see how it works for a few days.

bigbootyjudy1
09-19-2013, 02:58 PM
Im going to experiment with my prices today.Its been over a year since i experimented with them.Right now im at 4.99/5.99.Im going to lower them down to 2.99/5.99 .I will not use toys in pvt only in excl.Let see if i get more than one person in pvt at 2.99.I'll will report back to see if its better to keep it high or to keep it low.If you wanna do this ladies.I suggest in pvt you only do vanilla stuff like flashes,dancing,jerk off instruction.dirty talking.But if they want you to masturbate or use toys,cum shows or fetishes make them pay double.Also while in pvt i'm going to take my time with everything i do.Instead of rushing, since their broke ass is paying next to nothing for my time ;DThis experiment is only for a day.I dont know i might like it.Im just tired of having to penetrate myself every freaking private.Anything that can help with that im down.


I'm back to report ;D after 15 minutes of working at $2.99 i got greedy and changed my rates right back to $4.99 .I just cant take losing all that money.Im super happy i did because two of my regulars came and took me in a long private.I would kick my own ass if i stayed at $2.99.Im not running a thrift store here .If they don't like my fucking prices they can go stroke it to free porn.Keep the prices up ladies.Its not worth working longer for less pay.

rachelleigh
09-19-2013, 03:10 PM
You're right about the answers, I'm American :) I don't really need the money to get by (for a while at least) but it's definitely nice to have! I bumped my rates up a bit more and I'll see how it works for a few days.

If you have sound, quality feed, and are American and attractive? Holy shit raise em. Seriously. Most people in the TG or TS category don't have sound or speak English.

MarleyCat
09-19-2013, 03:18 PM
Got back on Streamate after avoiding it like the plague for months and months. I was working on Chaturbate instead and having fair luck there but I was using it mostly to build up a thicker skin.

I was sort of tip toeing around it and then finally got everything up. I didn't do really great but I was only on for about an hour. Forgot my prices are up at 5.99 and 6.99 so when I did do privates I was pleasantly surprised. Got a few tips too and ended it with a gold show before I went to shoot a quick custom and make some lunch.

Overall, not bad! Just have to work on my hustle a bit more :)

Guess I'll be going between Streamate and Chaturbate for a bit!

audritwo
09-19-2013, 08:34 PM
What if they get stuck!? I mean what if a girl was on cam fisting herself and her hand got stuck??? Omfg...LOL

That could happen. It's like a suction effect.

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Also I've noticed most girls have their profile pic, where as mine is set to image capture. How can I set it to just profile pic. Most of the time I look like a crazed person when I check my placement.

RaeRae
09-19-2013, 08:37 PM
Also I've noticed most girls have their profile pic, where as mine is set to image capture. How can I set it to just profile pic. Most of the time I look like a crazed person when I check my placement.

You have to email support and ask for a static profile pic. That's it.

AmberAustin
09-19-2013, 08:37 PM
Does Streamate end the private session as soon as a block is over? I may have fucked up if so :(

RaeRae
09-19-2013, 08:38 PM
Does Streamate end the private session as soon as a block is over? I may have fucked up if so :(

No, they do not. Once the block is over, it continues at the discounted per minute rate until you or the guy ends the private.

DaddyslilHeaven
09-19-2013, 08:44 PM
Signed up with SM today & waiting on approval!! I'm ready to get started and get into my zone. *starts swinging hip in hula hoop fashion*

AmberAustin
09-19-2013, 08:55 PM
What happened is that I have mentioned on my profile that I'll only cum if you stay in private for 15 minutes, both because it take a long time for me to get there and I don't want every 3 minute man demanding it. A guy buys a 15 minute block and as we get started it's clear he's going to want me to cum. So I start getting there, and then all of a sudden I realize the private's over! I check the record, and the session ended after EXACTLY 15 minutes, and the guy rated me a 1 :( I waited in free chat for a few minutes to see if he would come back but he didn't. I don't know if I can get it removed. At least I still have my 5 star rating :-\

RaeRae
09-19-2013, 08:57 PM
If they stay longer than 3 minutes, they are billed for the full 15 min, so it may not have ended exactly at the 15 min mark but it may appear as if they stayed for whole time. It's been a while since I've had block so I can't say for sure.

AmberAustin
09-19-2013, 09:00 PM
I saw the "1 minute remaining" warning in private chat, but I wasn't really keeping track of time while I was trying to get off!

RaeRae
09-19-2013, 09:03 PM
Oh fair enough, maybe he wanted to get his money's worth to an exact point. There are some guys who are nitwits that think 1 is means you did great and 5 the worst. If he said that you did great or anything like that in the private, I would see about getting it removed. However, they may not remove it if he didn't say something along those lines.

AmberAustin
09-19-2013, 09:15 PM
Yeah, I guess he thought I would cum within the 15 minutes. I'll just remove block session options and hope I don't get more bad ratings.