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laurielegs
09-19-2013, 10:12 PM
Yeah, I guess he thought I would cum within the 15 minutes. I'll just remove block session options and hope I don't get more bad ratings.

You know, a lot of us are acting. We are being paid to make THEM cum, not to cum ourselves.

I'd be worn the fuck out if I cum every time, (plus I don't do much when i actually orgasm. No wonder you forgot the timer. If I were concentrating on actually making myself cum I'd have all 1 ratings. If I weren't acting a lot of the time they would have nothing to watch).

autumn_rose
09-19-2013, 10:41 PM
Wtf is going on with sm traffic this week. Shit ton of girls online - more than usual and less 'customers'. I don't know about anyone else but I have a really hard time staying online for my scheduled time when I'm sitting in free chat for 30mins straight and no one to even talk to. WHATS GOING ON?

AmberAustin
09-19-2013, 10:48 PM
You know, a lot of us are acting. We are being paid to make THEM cum, not to cum ourselves.

I'd be worn the fuck out if I cum every time, (plus I don't do much when i actually orgasm. No wonder you forgot the timer. If I were concentrating on actually making myself cum I'd have all 1 ratings. If I weren't acting a lot of the time they would have nothing to watch).

I'm trans though, so it's kinda hard to fake it ;D

JaneBurgess
09-19-2013, 11:16 PM
No they don't. The customer can stay in the show longer and he will be charged the same rate as if he were still in the block session. It just goes per minute and you can end the show if you don't want to continue at the lower rate.





Does Streamate end the private session as soon as a block is over? I may have fucked up if so :(

laurielegs
09-20-2013, 04:10 AM
I'm trans though, so it's kinda hard to fake it ;D

oops! I see why you would want to offer block sessions.

Hopefully some of the other trans models will offer advice on how they deal with customers wanting you to cum on command and within a certain time period. It's really unreasonable for them to expect that (but a lot of customers do tend to be unreasonable unfortunately).

Missymissdemeanour
09-20-2013, 04:34 AM
Email support, tell them he probably got confused and thought one star was the top rating as he stayed for the duration and seemed to enjoy himself. Could they please remove it. Be polite. I had one yesterday, guy was trying to direct me in pvt, I explained I only offer that in exc, he stayed for a good 6-7 mins then rated me 1 star, I emailed support and they have removed it within a few hours!

What happened is that I have mentioned on my profile that I'll only cum if you stay in private for 15 minutes, both because it take a long time for me to get there and I don't want every 3 minute man demanding it. A guy buys a 15 minute block and as we get started it's clear he's going to want me to cum. So I start getting there, and then all of a sudden I realize the private's over! I check the record, and the session ended after EXACTLY 15 minutes, and the guy rated me a 1 :( I waited in free chat for a few minutes to see if he would come back but he didn't. I don't know if I can get it removed. At least I still have my 5 star rating :-\

xXMamiXx
09-20-2013, 05:42 AM
You know, a lot of us are acting. We are being paid to make THEM cum, not to cum ourselves.

I'd be worn the fuck out if I cum every time, (plus I don't do much when i actually orgasm. No wonder you forgot the timer. If I were concentrating on actually making myself cum I'd have all 1 ratings. If I weren't acting a lot of the time they would have nothing to watch).


I'm trans though, so it's kinda hard to fake it ;D

I am a squirter so I can't fake it at all... so I just fake caring haha

If you got it, flaunt it. If you can fake it, do it. Everyone is different - I actually enjoy cumming on the regular! I can't not be turned on touching anywhere my pussy LOL so I just go with it... !

It CAN really exhaust me though, especially since I have health problems (after a head injury in 2010) which make me tired super easy. For example, I can do about an hour of back to back gold shows (7 min show with 20 min countdown). log off or jam in free chat for a while, then go again. Probably after my fourth GS i'm done for the day. (that said, with the traffic i'm experiencing right now I'm not getting the traffic for back to back GS and am committing more hours to make my goal). I drink A LOT of water before, during and after broadcasting. And I need to get my 8 hours sleep. It took me a while to work out what my limits were so i've been playing around with work/rest since I started back in April. We all got our own rhythm!

Sometimes I've (wrongly) chosen the need for money over my need for rest (happens to the best of the rest of us!). My ish is that say, after a gold show, I have cum everywhere too many times already, and a guy BAM takes me private and wants me to squirt again. I want the money, but I feel like all I might manage is a drip so I just have to say, sorry, I've cum a lot today so the best we can do is see what happens! They are cool with that. I tend to talk talk talk a lot and ask questions in private and exclusive anyway (for as long as I possibly can) until the guy is like.. sooo... shall we cum now? I'm like, oh yeah !! and fake oblivion LOL

If I don't squirt as much as I might have if they were in a show with me earlier, I ask them to PM me and I throw them a few free pics and tell them to come back for a supersoaking ; )

The stuff I fake is more along the lines of like faking ATM... I put a condom on the dildo and after sticking it up my ass, whip the condom off off camera and then mmmmm lol

the whole thing kinda got me looking much more into bdsm and dominatrix kinda stuff, in the end. though dealing with people's fantasies and fetishes can be a lot more work than touching myself up - sometimes I can't be bothered to care that much !

p.s. I would advise against disabling block shows? and just change the way you communicate what you're going to do. I have BANKED in a few block shows where the guy has disconnected early or I forgot to attach my ethernet cable which seemed to disconnect the show, and they never came back to complete the rest of their time... I waited for chargebacks to strike a hit at my earnings but, every time, never did. So I keep em enabled and promote them all the time lol

AmberAustin
09-20-2013, 05:59 AM
Yeah, I'll just tell guys they have to stay in a long session or just deal with it. I don't really feel obligated when I'm only getting a couple bucks (my cut) anyway!

Cam_Model_Jess
09-20-2013, 06:00 AM
You don't need to disable block sessions, you just need to change the way you "advertise" what you do. If you promise that you'll cum in 15 minutes and you don't, the guy has the right to rate you 1 star. You didn't deliver. It sucks, but these guys are very literal. And no, it doesn't seem to matter that the customer is a guy & should be aware of how hard it is to cum on command. I can't visibly produce cum (ejaculate or squirt), so I have no idea what to suggest. But I suppose you'll need to figure out what your limits are, and advertise around those.

As for him leaving at exactly 15:00, it's just the site's denotation of the time he paid for. He may have left sooner. Or he may have run out of money for the day. I've had guys stay in for long shows & leave right while I'm doing what they asked for. After doing the math, I realized they hit their limit.

anonymous camgirl
09-20-2013, 06:04 AM
I have asked many why they don't just go watch free porn, cuz half the time they ignore you or just order you around...LOL... and they said to me! They Like talking to a REAL person. That's why they don't watch free porn. So yea! Don't be cheap with yourself by charging less.


I'm back to report ;D after 15 minutes of working at $2.99 i got greedy and changed my rates right back to $4.99 .I just cant take losing all that money.Im super happy i did because two of my regulars came and took me in a long private.I would kick my own ass if i stayed at $2.99.Im not running a thrift store here .If they don't like my fucking prices they can go stroke it to free porn.Keep the prices up ladies.Its not worth working longer for less pay.

xXMamiXx
09-20-2013, 06:26 AM
off topic but allow me... did you guys hear about UK banks blocking porn internet sites ?? I'm guessing it includes camsites : /

Cam_Model_Jess
09-20-2013, 06:35 AM
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?186004-UK-Porn-Filter&highlight=porn+ban
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?185725-UK-Internet-Porn-Ban

lifetravelergirl
09-20-2013, 07:41 AM
I was wondering... A while back I was reading how to be a cam model and the advice was to not act horny. but it seems like all of my customers want a horny cam girl. I think it would be difficult to sell a gold show without acting horny, wouldn't it? The idea of me acting horny in order to get business feels wrong. I feel like the guys should be the ones pursuing me and not vice versa. However I always end up playing the horny aggressive one in order to get paid. Guys do tend to prefer when I am dominant so maybe that is it? Maybe I just come off as a dominant type? How does it work for you?

xXMamiXx
09-20-2013, 08:16 AM
Wow. I would never give that advice personally.

I tailor what I can to the customer.

If they just want to talk, I tone it down. If they are thirsty, I tease and play horny.

Go with the flow there are no hard and fast rules just do what works for you and what you enjoy x x x

sylvieblue
09-20-2013, 02:27 PM
WTF is going on with payments lately? This is the second week in a row where my check didn't arrive on Friday as it usually does. Is anyone else experiencing this? not getting my money on time makes me severely crabby!

Cam_Model_Jess
09-20-2013, 02:28 PM
Maybe you have a new mail carrier? Probably sounds silly, but the few times I've had late checks or packages, or even missing packages, my regular mail carrier was on vacation.

SweetJulia
09-20-2013, 02:59 PM
Oh thats fun.. they can tip you in free chat then? Cant wait to be approved lol
Can and will are two different animals-some guys really get cheap.

Holly_xoxo
09-20-2013, 03:04 PM
I have no idea what is going on with my stream today. One minute I'm on page 1 and the next minute page 2, then I disappear back to page 10. I can't even find myself right now and there hasn't been anyone in my room in 10 minutes. I'm usually somewhere on page one but lately this seems to be happening.
I'd write to tech support but I assume they'd just say it's my fault.
I have a good i7 computer, use the encoder, have 5 stars, use audio and have a fast internet speed.
Is anyone else having this problem?

MarleyCat
09-20-2013, 03:06 PM
I was just writing in another thread that I didn't even appear in the Ebony category just now.

I have no idea how people are finding me, they may have already added me to their favorites but it was dead dead dead. When I went to check, I wasn't even showing up at all. So weird...I dunno what they're doing over there.

Holly_xoxo
09-20-2013, 03:10 PM
Hmm, I'm not the only one then. This is really fucking with my money...
I can tell when I've dropped back to pg 10 and beyond because my room suddenly goes empty.

SadieTaylor
09-20-2013, 03:39 PM
Mine are also coming later. I used to get them friday or saturday and now it's monday or tuesday.
WTF is going on with payments lately? This is the second week in a row where my check didn't arrive on Friday as it usually does. Is anyone else experiencing this? not getting my money on time makes me severely crabby!

MissMorvahna
09-20-2013, 06:28 PM
So when you are new, how do you get people in your room?

SexyAleks
09-20-2013, 06:46 PM
When you are new, you get good traffic because you are in New Models section.

MissMorvahna
09-21-2013, 10:45 PM
NO ONE IS GOING PRIVATE HERE! Does this site suck? Is there a trick to this crowd?

Procrasturbator
09-22-2013, 01:19 AM
NO ONE IS GOING PRIVATE HERE! Does this site suck? Is there a trick to this crowd?

SM's traffic is weird lately, it's usually a lot better than this. But aside from that, what's your placement like? How many people are you getting in your room at a time?

If you have geoblocking on and you're not getting much traffic I'd advise turning it off, it's basically useless IMO. And keep in mind that you can make a bit of money in free chat through flashes and requests if you're comfortable with that (e.g. 10 gold for boobs, 5 gold for feet, etc.)

MissMorvahna
09-22-2013, 02:49 AM
SM's traffic is weird lately, it's usually a lot better than this. But aside from that, what's your placement like? How many people are you getting in your room at a time?

If you have geoblocking on and you're not getting much traffic I'd advise turning it off, it's basically useless IMO. And keep in mind that you can make a bit of money in free chat through flashes and requests if you're comfortable with that (e.g. 10 gold for boobs, 5 gold for feet, etc.)


placement was pretty good. third row on the first page. never had more than 3 in room. i thought i was being lively and friendly. the second i said hi, the dude would leave.
:(

Procrasturbator
09-22-2013, 03:02 AM
Dude, third row on the first page when you're new is awesome! Fuck, I don't think I've ever made third row and I've been on SM for months now. But never more than 3 guys in your room? Yeah, it's not you. It's SM and whatever weird problems they've been having lately.

Did you check your cammodels link to make sure everything was looking good? (yourname.cammodels.com) If everything's good on your end and you're going more than half an hour or so without decent traffic or a single pvt I would concentrate on other sites in the meantime. I know you were excited for SM but it's awful right now, even with regulars, great ratings, positive comments, etc I've been making like $5 an hour on there the past 2 hours or so I've worked. It's ridiculous.

xXMamiXx
09-22-2013, 03:04 AM
I had a little look at the other camsite threads the other day. Seems there is something in the air ! I'm assuming it's some end of summer lull and it will pick up..

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-22-2013, 06:33 AM
Maybe someone here can answer this for me. When is the cutoff on SM for payout? For example I made money from Sunday 9/15 through Sat afternoon 9/21 will all money earned between that time be available for me next Friday?

Snowy0Star
09-22-2013, 06:44 AM
Maybe someone here can answer this for me. When is the cutoff on SM for payout? For example I made money from Sunday 9/15 through Sat afternoon 9/21 will all money earned between that time be available for me next Friday?

yes the cut off for me is 8 pm at night on sat and im in the east coast in the us sm payweek is sunday to sunday at midnight where their servers are but i dont get how thats possible since the only thing closest to me is the uk and theyre like 5 or 6 hours a head of me so i dont know how its possible there servers are 4 hours ahead of me

Procrasturbator
09-22-2013, 06:50 AM
^ I know it's GMT, which is I think London?

Cam_Model_Jess
09-22-2013, 06:50 AM
SM is in Greenwich time (GMT). It's usually the international standard for +/- hours. Originates with the premise that the sun crosses the Greenwich Meridian at noon GMT, which isn't totally true (taking into account the earth's orbit), but noon GMT is the annual average of the sun crossing the meridian.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-22-2013, 07:44 AM
Thanks ladies for the repsonses

AmberAustin
09-22-2013, 06:17 PM
Ugh, I got my first 30 second guy today. I should've known that he would after "show feet then prvt". Thanks for clearing my room fucker.

Also, how important is offering phone? I occasionally get guys that leave after I say I don't offer it, but hardly anyone in my niche offers either.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-22-2013, 07:37 PM
Ugh, I got my first 30 second guy today. I should've known that he would after "show feet then prvt". Thanks for clearing my room fucker.

Also, how important is offering phone? I occasionally get guys that leave after I say I don't offer it, but hardly anyone in my niche offers either.


Well in that case if I were you I would offer it. The key is to stand out.

LustyLark
09-22-2013, 11:27 PM
OMG I finally got up the balls to do my first shift on SM and wow it sure is different than Chaturbate and I like it quite a bit. I know it was just my first shift but comparing first shifts on both sites well I did 5X better on there and in less time. I am glad to have two different eggs in my basket now :-)

IG
09-23-2013, 05:35 AM
Hello stripper web! I am brand spanking new to this site. I will soon fill out my full profile :) I am not sure I am in the right place to ask my questions but I AM in the SM thread and My ?'s are about SM...

1. How does one upload videos to the site? I can't find this option anywhere but SM says I have a "videos" tab on my profile???

2. What is the average show pricing for top girls, not known porn stars, just pretty girls who get a lot of shows?

3.in gold shows I see a lot of girls offer photos and videos for gold so that way if the show is cancelled due to not reaching goal, the model still makes money from the tips of gold ... how do the girls get the videos and pics to the guys who pledge??? do we email them the links to the content, and do we email on SM or outside of SM?

Thanks so much for any help!

IG

Vlodina
09-23-2013, 05:57 AM
1. You can't upload videos unless you have a Gold Club.
2. Pricing varies a lot, but you shouldn't consider being under 3.99 or more per min. But do what works for you.
3. a) If the gold show is cancelled then the model gets nothing.
b) You send the guys download links using the SM mail system. They guys do have to email you first otherwise you cannot contact them. There's mediafire, camredeem and other file sharing systems that you can use.
c)You are not allowed any offsite contact.

Cam_Model_Jess
09-23-2013, 06:09 AM
1. You don't; the site does (records your shows & sells them, and no you don't get a cut)

2. Get a customer account & look at prices. For us to tell you about "pretty girls who get a lot of shows" we have to offer opinions on two subjective concepts. Get serious about your business, and do some reading and looking around.

3. You don't keep ANY gold whatsoever if you cancel the show. The site doesn't differentiate gold earned for photos/vids & gold pledged toward the show, if the pics/vids were sold during a countdown. The girls are offering entire libraries of porn because they can no longer get a room full of guys to pledge $0.10-$0.50/min to watch their live show, so they now choose to bribe them with incentives, and if the guys pay for the videos, it gets the girls that much closer to their show goal. There may be other reasons behind it too.

4. There are actually some threads on this. Direct download links thru SM e-mail.

Edit: Thanks Vlodina. I didn't realize you'd already answered.

MissMorvahna
09-23-2013, 06:09 AM
I still don't understand... what is a gold show? How is it different than party chat? Can anyone do one?

Vlodina
09-23-2013, 06:12 AM
You should start by reading the SM faqs within your model admin page. Top right, under "support". It's explains the website.

temptingmodel
09-23-2013, 07:01 AM
should i use lights? if it should be on top or the side? blue, pink green, anyone know?
Phone and volume should I or should I not?
Do I need to pick one?
Do fat girls make it on page 1 or make over 100.00 usd weekly?
Shit, taxes... do I do those, do I claim it all? ALL OF IT!? no fucking way am I paying taxes.
I ONLY GET 35% , dear christ! life is at a stand still right now
SHIT let me mail SM and tell them what I really think, fuck this 35% and recorded shows when all they do is make sure I get paid for every show, pay for advertising, CC fees....
Since I dont like to read can someone tell me what to do?
WTF is a goldclub, i dont have that feature...

Any help is appreciated. ;)

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-23-2013, 07:15 AM
^^^You almost got a WTF from me with the should I use lights. LOL like "she's been around how long?" what the

Snowy0Star
09-23-2013, 07:40 AM
should i use lights? if it should be on top or the side? blue, pink green, anyone know?
Phone and volume should I or should I not?
Do I need to pick one?
Do fat girls make it on page 1 or make over 100.00 usd weekly?
Shit, taxes... do I do those, do I claim it all? ALL OF IT!? no fucking way am I paying taxes.
I ONLY GET 35% , dear christ! life is at a stand still right now
SHIT let me mail SM and tell them what I really think, fuck this 35% and recorded shows when all they do is make sure I get paid for every show, pay for advertising, CC fees....
Since I dont like to read can someone tell me what to do?
WTF is a goldclub, i dont have that feature...

Any help is appreciated. ;)

OMG girl u had me rolling in lafter for a few min - love u

temptingmodel
09-23-2013, 10:46 AM
repetitive questions = repetitive asshole responses

?

this thread continual goes from good to junk, good to junk ................... just read and find all answers.

If someone wants to spoon feed, go ahead. I was never a good babysitter.

xXMamiXx
09-23-2013, 11:03 AM
you just added more junk though, didn't you.

When I came here as a newbie everyone was super nice and I was so grateful, albeit I read every single post on all the threads I was interested in and would advise anyone to do the same.

I would also advise anyone not to be scared or hesitate to ask a question. No one needs to write an essay to reply, but a simple point in the right direction is enough.

It would be fair if the same person was overdoing it with the questions and flooding the thread, but your response was totally unnecessary..

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-23-2013, 11:07 AM
A few days ago I signed up with a SM customer account and soon aftwards i started getting spam mail from a dating site. I unsubscribed from the site, but somewhere along the way I was Charged $19.99 with this on my statement ECHST.NET 866-452-5108 WAUS I never signed up for anything other than SM. And I only use that email account for SM. Nothing else. I got a confirmation email but I did not authorize this. How many customers is this happening to I wonder? This is some bullshit right here. I now have to dispute this with my bank. Not nice at all.

35014

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-23-2013, 11:16 AM
Oooooooo they are nasty! I mean RUDE. I got hung up on once. And the second person told me that he wasnt trying to hear what I was trying to say. True story. And that the eroticmatch.com is an opt out feature. It's automatic and that agreeably very deceptive to new members. The customer service rep just told me this. Unbelievable. That was Streamate. What an eye opener. How many guys get treated like this and then say fuck it!

Cam_Model_Jess
09-23-2013, 11:19 AM
I wonder how much of that 65% is going toward covering chargebacks from this one particular shady practice. Food for thought.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-23-2013, 11:25 AM
Oh but it gets better...no not really. I used a prepaid that hardly ever has any money on it. It only had $9. So that charge overdrew the account and I still have to contact the bank. I should have called them first and just did a chargeback. But then I wouldn't have had the pleasure of speaking to the charming people at SM. WOW! This is a game changer. I wonder how they are on cams.com? Or anywhere else? Cuz thats just ....... speechless