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SoloDesire
09-24-2013, 06:12 AM
Is anyone doing well on Streamate right now? I've taken most of the last week off to work on videos since it's been so slow.
Nope. It's been really slow so far again this week. I was on for 3 hours yesterday and only had one private. Beggars are in full swing. But just gotta keep swimming...some money is better than no money at all. ;)
Violet_Z
09-24-2013, 06:58 AM
So I've read everywhere and can't find an answer for this.Are Streamate and Streamate limited the same thing?
SoloDesire
09-24-2013, 07:06 AM
So I've read everywhere and can't find an answer for this.Are Streamate and Streamate limited the same thing?
Yes. The sign in page where models log in says "Streamate Limited"
Snowy0Star
09-24-2013, 07:09 AM
i think streamate limited is the corporation name and the site is called streamate
SillyCamgirl
09-24-2013, 08:15 AM
So I know you can't show peeing on cam, but I had a slave asking the other day if I could force him to drink his own urine (ew, but whatever). I wasn't sure what to say? Another guy wanted to listen to me pee. Like cam in the bathroom, on the floor. Are either of these things allowed?
And GraceFace, paying traffic has been really terrible for me too. I just did voyeur shows yesterday, so I could make a couple dollars doing things I had to do anyway. Shower, cook. I was pissed that two past paying customers I had not seen after our intial shows (one was totally obsessed and maxed out his limit on me) stopped in to free chat while I was doing a voyeur show. I felt like if I had just been in free chat, I would have finally made some money this week. Then I realized I would have been completely logged off otherwise, and never would have known they were still coming back on to see if I was around.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-24-2013, 09:22 AM
There was a young lady today offering piss,shit,scat in a gold show. $50 for 13 minutes. $5 buy in. But before I could blink her account went "Sorry, I'm offline now" HAHA I guess someone reported her, or they have word filters in place? Cuz it was quick.
Snowy0Star
09-24-2013, 09:30 AM
wowzers with all the guys that ask me to pee on cam im plesantly surprised she didnt get away with that since so much gets by on there
roast
09-24-2013, 09:35 AM
So I know you can't show peeing on cam, but I had a slave asking the other day if I could force him to drink his own urine (ew, but whatever). I wasn't sure what to say? Another guy wanted to listen to me pee. Like cam in the bathroom, on the floor. Are either of these things allowed?
Awhile ago we discussed limits on what customers can do to themselves wrt scat https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?172287-The-limitations-on-scat-play-can-the-CUSTOMER-do-it-if-we-arent - I dont know if we landed anywhere on an answer? Would he want to watch you peeing or just hear it? Listening is probably fine bc arguably it could be "anything" I guess? Like legally maybe? (lol internet pseudo-paralegal), like hey maybe that dripping sound is.... your bathroom ceiling cracked open right above your toilet during a thunderstorm.... you have very overactive saliva glands and have to let it out over your toilet.... you sweat a pathological amount....But srsly, you know who would be a great person to ask to get a solid answer? Vanessa https://twitter.com/awmodel/
VictoriaChaos
09-24-2013, 09:57 AM
Seriously, that twitter should be on the first page of this thread.
So much good information on the videos.
I had no idea that was her twitter and we follow each other.
Once again, Roast you are a lifesaver.
Snowy0Star
09-24-2013, 10:03 AM
Seriously, that twitter should be on the first page of this thread.
So much good information on the videos.
I had no idea that was her twitter and we follow each other.
Once again, Roast you are a lifesaver.
miss ergo isnt around here too much anymore i barely see her post and ive been on here a year just about. i do think maybe we need a new official sm thread by someone whos on here often enuf to edit the OP and keep things fresh but it would probably just get murged with this one
edit : i saw a few ppl like my idea so i Pmed love and isobel about starting a new official thread lets see what they say
edit : i got the OK from love to make a new thread . the new thread is (hopefully) going to be info only or help and advice and this thread is going to stay like it is for day to day talk about traffic and whatnot I'm getting started on the OP right now
roast
09-24-2013, 10:11 AM
Yea her tumblr: http://awmodel.tumblr.com/ and her yotube http://www.youtube.com/user/AWModels/videos are massively helpful and very direct. One-on-One she's super helpful as well. Only snafu with one-on-one help is I believe she cant provide support to performers in studios but her online presence is so full of very helpful (and direct) information. No pitches, no trimmings, doesnt care if youre a top model or a new one or a middling one (hey-yo) - she just gets to the point and has a lot of info on the encoder, signup process, webcams (even finds deals and posts them), lighting even, etc. Only thing she's missing is uh makeup tutorials or something.
Someone in verified pointed out her Youtube though (so not my discovery) but yea her social networking presence is amazing and (no offense to the work done in this thread) is my go-to if Im confused about Streamate stuff.
audritwo
09-24-2013, 10:28 AM
Question I had a guy take me to a 15 min premium block, left 1m 46s. He still got charged the Premium Block rate. From my understanding, I thought they got charged the regular rate if the leave under 3 minutes instead of the block rate? Did something change? Cause that is FUCKING BULLSHIT!
Vlodina
09-24-2013, 10:32 AM
He's got two hours to return and complete it. Otherwise I guess they will partially (well, more than "partially" refund him. :(
Snowy0Star
09-24-2013, 10:35 AM
He's got two hours to return and complete it. Otherwise I guess they will partially (well, more than "partially" refund him. :(
i was under the impression that it never fully charges the viewer until after the 3 min so it takes it all out even if u stay under 3 min or not?
Thymian
09-24-2013, 10:55 AM
i was under the impression that it never fully charges the viewer until after the 3 min so it takes it all out even if u stay under 3 min or not?
That's what I thought (and read here, I think). If they leave after the three minutes, say at the five minute mark, they can still return within two hours of the session start time to finish the remaining ten minutes. I may be wrong but that is what I have sussed.
What I have never understood, though, is whether we still get paid if they have a few minutes left on their block session and we are not online for two more hours (regardless if they try to come back or not). Since this is a gray area for me I am always afraid to log out too soon after an unfinished session, which sucks sometimes when it's late and they had literally one minute left and I know they are not coming back. I sometimes wish I could ask them to stay for the very end but I know they are logging off so it doesn't go into extra minutes.
You could say just don't accept that session when you are planning to log off anyway but I'm not saying no to any money and I also sometimes don't realize it's a block and the accept menu just looks like a regular exclusive. I wish it could be a different color or something for those of us who have poor reading comprehension, LOL!
I also sometimes think about disabling block sessions because on the one hand it's nice to be able to move at a slower pace and let things develop. But once in a while a guys who will say "Toys, bb?" in the first few minutes and I'm like oh god, do I really have to pound myself for that long? It's hard to break it up when they want the dildoing like toot sweet.
I am not stating in this comment that you are one entitled and rude newbie. I am merely stating that I've found other newbies on Stripperweb to be less rude and entitled.
Hey, at least I didn't resort to name calling.
I have been dealing with girls like you for well over 15 years as a stripper prior to joining the cam girl world, and your comment doesn't phase me. I got the answers I needed, responded in a grateful way, and then resplied to another response that
a) argued the fact that you can upload videos if you have a gold club by saying you can not upload videos at all
b) insulted me by insinuating that I am not serious about my business, do not bother to read or look around, and told me to go look for my answers on the SM website, not here.
c) was extremely biased against girls who offer videos as extras by saying that they are obviously cam girls that can not get guys to pay
the regular rate so they have to "bribe" customers by giving away whole libraries of porn - when in fact, she can't possibly know every single cam girl's reasons for giving away a lot of videos or assume that those girls are crappy cam models.
d) I generally found obnoxious.
I reserve the right to respond to a reply to a post of mine in any manner I choose, but I don't resort to name calling.
I don't care that I am a newbie to this site, but you do. Just because I am a new member of this website, I am not going to walk on egg shells and suck up to anyone. I am not new to this female driven industry full of alphas, and I will not kiss ass or keep quiet, or filter my opinions for the sake of not causing waves.
I have nothing more to say about this post, so if you reply, it will fall on deaf ears. I will return to stripper web if I have any more questions about a different topic, and will hopefully receive another helpful answer in a non-confrontational, neutral way.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-24-2013, 11:14 AM
Just let it go already. Seriously c'mon.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-24-2013, 11:18 AM
I've never had a blocked session? Someone posted the twitter handle of someone who is very helpful up above https://twitter.com/awmodel since the leaving and returning while the model is logged off is such a grey area, maybe she could answer that one. Good point! @Thymian
Snowy0Star
09-24-2013, 11:20 AM
I've never had a blocked session? Someone posted the twitter handle of someone who is very helpful up above https://twitter.com/awmodel since the leaving and returning while the model is logged off is such a grey area, maybe she could answer that one. Good point! @Thymian
i dont think she has an account on here but if someone wants to dm her twitter ask then report back ?
Thymian
09-24-2013, 11:30 AM
i dont think she has an account on here but if someone wants to dm her twitter ask then report back ?
Good thinking Snowy and PhatGirl, I will put in her Tumblr ask box and report back. I have gotten so many great tips and info on this site but particularly this thread that have translated to ca$h money in my pocket that I would be delighted to contribute something in return.
Snowy0Star
09-24-2013, 11:33 AM
Good thinking Snowy and PhatGirl, I will put in her Tumblr ask box and report back. I have gotten so many great tips and info on this site but particularly this thread that have translated to ca$h money in my pocket that I would be delighted to contribute something in return.
i would do it but im busy working on the OP to the new SM thread im editing Ergos OP and adding some stuff to it .
audritwo
09-24-2013, 11:37 AM
Hey, at least I didn't resort to name calling.
I have been dealing with girls like you for well over 15 years as a stripper prior to joining the cam girl world, and your comment doesn't phase me. I got the answers I needed, responded in a grateful way, and then resplied to another response that
a) argued the fact that you can upload videos if you have a gold club by saying you can not upload videos at all
b) insulted me by insinuating that I am not serious about my business, do not bother to read or look around, and told me to go look for my answers on the SM website, not here.
c) was extremely biased against girls who offer videos as extras by saying that they are obviously cam girls that can not get guys to pay
the regular rate so they have to "bribe" customers by giving away whole libraries of porn - when in fact, she can't possibly know every single cam girl's reasons for giving away a lot of videos or assume that those girls are crappy cam models.
d) I generally found obnoxious.
I reserve the right to respond to a reply to a post of mine in any manner I choose, but I don't resort to name calling.
I don't care that I am a newbie to this site, but you do. Just because I am a new member of this website, I am not going to walk on egg shells and suck up to anyone. I am not new to this female driven industry full of alphas, and I will not kiss ass or keep quiet, or filter my opinions for the sake of not causing waves.
I have nothing more to say about this post, so if you reply, it will fall on deaf ears. I will return to stripper web if I have any more questions about a different topic, and will hopefully receive another helpful answer in a non-confrontational, neutral way.
KBAI!
Thymian
09-24-2013, 11:39 AM
i would do it but im busy working on the OP to the new SM thread im editing Ergos OP and adding some stuff to it .
That's awesome, Snowy, thank you for taking the time and effort to do that! I just submitted my question about the block session on the AWM ask page on Tumblr and I'll let y'all know what I hear. :)
audritwo
09-24-2013, 11:43 AM
Alright this thread (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?175767-Um-weird-Block-sessions-Streamate)answered my question.
UGH I just feel like that's a great way for dudes to exploit.
Snowy0Star
09-24-2013, 11:44 AM
That's awesome, Snowy, thank you for taking the time and effort to do that! I just submitted my question about the block session on the AWM ask page on Tumblr and I'll let y'all know what I hear. :)
haha ty im working on it in google docs then im cutting and pasting it into a new thread i do NOT want ANYTHING to open to it lol and also going to add the most common things asked and useful things to know its going to be make a master SM hustle and tech support thread i just hope i can keep it drama free ...
Thymian
09-24-2013, 12:04 PM
UGH I just feel like that's a great way for dudes to exploit.
I know, right? But just so you know this has rarely happened to me and I've done a fair number of blocks. I think one time it happened and the guy had had a connection issue. He came right back and finished it out.
its going to be make a master SM hustle and tech support thread i just hope i can keep it drama free ...
You're a superstar, bb.
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Cam_Model_Jess
09-24-2013, 12:17 PM
I want to clarify my post before I take a SW breather :) Here's my original post:
1. You don't; the site does (records your shows & sells them, and no you don't get a cut)
2. Get a customer account & look at prices. For us to tell you about "pretty girls who get a lot of shows" we have to offer opinions on two subjective concepts. Get serious about your business, and do some reading and looking around.
3. You don't keep ANY gold whatsoever if you cancel the show. The site doesn't differentiate gold earned for photos/vids & gold pledged toward the show, if the pics/vids were sold during a countdown. The girls are offering entire libraries of porn because they can no longer get a room full of guys to pledge $0.10-$0.50/min to watch their live show, so they now choose to bribe them with incentives, and if the guys pay for the videos, it gets the girls that much closer to their show goal. There may be other reasons behind it too.
4. There are actually some threads on this. Direct download links thru SM e-mail.
Edit: Thanks Vlodina. I didn't realize you'd already answered.
1. The question asked was specifically about the "My Videos" section of the SM model profile. My answer was an answer to this specific inquiry. Other members offered additional helpful information about the "Gold Club," which, as far as I'm aware, is a different portion of the profile from the "My Videos" section. The "My Videos" section is (or at least was) for SM to record your sessions, upload them, charge members a monthly fee (for which you do NOT get a cut). I think someone mentioned that this program was abandoned by SM, but I do know that I did, at one point in time, have videos available there (not of my own choosing, and for which I did not receive a cut).
2. My phrasing may have been offensive here. However, I do believe that anyone who does well does it through experimentation & experience. As has been said hundreds of times before around here, experiences/successes are different for everyone. Hustle, image, attitude, categories, and a million other things can stand in the way from your exact hustle working for me, and visa versa. I can't comment on "pretty girls" because who I think is beautiful is often not who other people think is beautiful, etc. It's a subjective concept. And... "beauty" is often not the deciding factor in whether or not a model does well. I still stand by my assertion that the BEST way to know the answer to this question is to get a customer account & look at other models. Compare your concept of beauty to their prices and their success, and go from there.
3. I absolutely, in no way, made any mention of the models' inability to be successful as a result of their own actions. I was (possibly not strongly enough) implying that the "culture" of the site has led to this situation, in which many models have to now "bribe" customers to join their shows. I don't think that any model will say that she's giving away pictures and videos for fun or because she's voyeuristic in nature & enjoys the thought of giving away free porn. It's the name of the game these days.
It took very little time for Gold Shows to evolve from a $1-$1.50/min enterprise of offering infrequent, cheaper shows to customers while still earning the same (and usually more) money in the same amount of time, while hyping up the customers & getting them excited about the site... to the state it's in today. Many performers are still successful with Gold Shows, and many do not give away pics & vids as incentives. However, I think it's pretty much a known fact that Gold Shows are consistently getting cheaper and cheaper (I regularly see $1 shows, and even $1 for more than an hour) and the guys have come to expect more for their money. $1 for 7 minutes of hardcore action is often not good enough anymore. "But can you squirt bb?" "What do we get if we pledge?" "What does the high tipped get?" (even if the high tip is only $3?) "Will you shoot rainbows out of your ass if I give you $5?" "Entice me to pay you $1 & we'll see..."
Perhaps my choice of the words "choose to bribe" were loaded? Models DO make a choice to participate in a culture of devaluing their services. However, this is a choice LARGELY driven by necessity. I regularly see models offering HUNDREDS (yes, I'm serious) of videos just for the low low pledge of $1-$3. Pledge $1 and you not only get to see my 15 minute show, but you also get 500 videos of me. When I talk about "bribing" I'm not speaking of models who consciously make a decision to sometimes offer a small incentive. I'm talking about models who simply cannot get customers to pledge for their shows, NOT because the model herself is unattractive, unworthy, or bad at what she does, but because of the "free porn" culture, which exists not only on SM, but on all sites. And also because there is a prominent pattern of bargaining and game playing to which many customers seem to be attracted, like flies to shit. It's just the way it is. And it very rarely has anything to do with the performer.
Alright, so I've clarified, and that's about all I can do. Yes, I'm sarcastic and snarky some of the time. But those who've been around here know that I'm not bitchy or generally even catty. I spend a lot of time helping other models when I don't have to, as do most of the lovely ladies here. I do let my annoyance get the better of me at times, but in this particular instance, my annoyance is mostly for the present state of SM.
justanothercamgirl
09-24-2013, 12:33 PM
I have been dealing with girls like you
Girls like me? You mean the kind that have over 8,000 thanks on Stripperweb making them the second most thanked person on the board.
AmberAustin
09-24-2013, 12:37 PM
I don't understand how you can be "super serious" about camming and not have a custy account. I got my boyfriend to sign up so I could see private rates my first day on.
justanothercamgirl
09-24-2013, 12:53 PM
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Thymian
09-24-2013, 01:24 PM
I don't understand how you can be "super serious" about camming and not have a custy account. I got my boyfriend to sign up so I could see private rates my first day on.
Having a customer account is handy for a number of reasons, not least of which is that in addition to shooting rainbows out of your cooch you are also providing customer service and tech support. Knowing the site from the customer's POV will make your life a little easier.
For example, a lot of new guys don't realize that they will get a pop-up window after hitting the "Enter My Live Private Show" button that shows the rates. When I explain this to them–that they will have a chance to review the options first–they are always grateful and feel better about starting a show. (Of course some leave when they see my rates, LOL!)
What I don't know how to explain is why new guys don't have the option to go exclusive before they've spent money in a regular/premium private or giving gold in chat. I wish I know more about what they have to do or how much or they have to spend before it's enabled.
I can also ask this question on the AWM tumblr page but if anyone here can enlighten me I'd be obliged. It comes up almost every time I am on. :/
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-24-2013, 01:28 PM
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My new favorite gif. Annnnnnn Im stealing it!
Snowy0Star
09-24-2013, 01:37 PM
35027
what movie is this from?
kortneykay
09-24-2013, 01:43 PM
I don't have a custy account as I don't think it makes since for me to get one. I don't look at other girls' prices, I mean, add money and let's go bb, that's all I care about :P
Thymian
09-24-2013, 02:46 PM
Wow, she is fast! Vanessa's answer about the block sessions are here: http://awmodel.tumblr.com/post/62178723395/could-you-explain-a-little-about-how-block-sessions
Bird of Paradise
09-24-2013, 02:46 PM
what movie is this from?
From Zoolander. "It's Hansel. He's so hot right now!"
audritwo
09-24-2013, 02:51 PM
I don't have a custy account as I don't think it makes since for me to get one. I don't look at other girls' prices, I mean, add money and let's go bb, that's all I care about :P
only use my custy account to look at my placement. But I'm the same way, it's their business what they charge. If I do watch a model I usually log off and see how their room is doing. Out of respect because it pisses me off when people just sit in my room and do nothing.
My partner uses it if he needs to get a hold of me the quickest if I'm streaming. So it's a great way of quick communication when I'm "busy"
audritwo
09-24-2013, 02:53 PM
Wow, she is fast! Vanessa's answer about the block sessions are here: http://awmodel.tumblr.com/post/62178723395/could-you-explain-a-little-about-how-block-sessions
THE WOMAN IS FUCKING MAGICAL! I've said this thousands of times.
justanothercamgirl
09-24-2013, 03:01 PM
From Zoolander. "It's Hansel. He's so hot right now!"
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It is almost embarrassing for me to admit how much I love that movie. 8)
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-24-2013, 03:27 PM
From Zoolander. "It's Hansel. He's so hot right now!"
I got so excited last week when I saw that Zoolander was on netflix. I have already burned out two dvd's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx9O6q0pDAU
Thymian
09-24-2013, 04:10 PM
My partner uses it if he needs to get a hold of me the quickest if I'm streaming. So it's a great way of quick communication when I'm "busy"
That is genius. I love creative solutions like this! I use mine to tag myself and swap tags with other models, to make sure everything is working when people say the private button didn't work (which I know is a lie but sometimes when it's slow I like to make sure, LOL!) and of course I also tip my favorite models, especially the ones whose rooms I lurked in when I was learning the ropes.
I've also tipped into my own gold shows out of desperation when it seemed the room wanted a show but no one wanted to be the first bid to break the ice (when you sign up with your affiliate link you obviously will only be paying a fraction). This may sound crazy but sometimes it did work, and I only did it during some really desperate times I experienced in June, when my placement mysteriously tanked. There were a couple of days I just logged in so I could talk to myself in free chat. Thank the Cam Goddess that time is behind me and my placement is back on track.
I went into my private and exclusive chats to take screen shots of the interface so if someone was trying to do phone or C2C I could tell them exactly what to look for. Oh, and it's the only way you'll be able to read all your comments once you have more than one page of them, short of going into every paid customer log and seeing if they left one.
Also, I messaged myself so if I want to send out a group message from my model account, I send it to my custie account which is my performer name, and just bcc the rest. (I am sure these details don't matter to a lot of people but it's just sort of an extension of the workflow I used to have in my vanilla advertising job.)
It's rare that I ever look at anyone's rates anymore, so my custie account is more of a tool for maintaining my niches and monitoring site issues. Of course, I realize you can still bank on SM without doing any of the things I mentioned but it's just my nature to work this way.
Procrasturbator
09-24-2013, 04:20 PM
^ Hmm, that's a lot of great advantages I hadn't considered before...
Oh, and it's the only way you'll be able to read all your comments once you have more than one page of them, short of going into every paid customer log and seeing if they left one.
I can see all my comments without a custie account, at least I think I can? You just click "see more comments":
http://yourname.cammodels.com/comments/yourname/
audritwo
09-24-2013, 04:40 PM
That is genius. I love creative solutions like this! I use mine to tag myself and swap tags with other models, to make sure everything is working when people say the private button didn't work (which I know is a lie but sometimes when it's slow I like to make sure, LOL!) and of course I also tip my favorite models, especially the ones whose rooms I lurked in when I was learning the ropes.
ooooooo I never thought of tagging myself. Cause I can up to five times.
JaneBurgess
09-24-2013, 06:28 PM
Can someone PLEASE post the old Streamate Encoder settings before widescreen? It would be really appreciated and I can't find them. :(
Thymian
09-24-2013, 06:29 PM
I can see all my comments without a custie account, at least I think I can? You just click "see more comments":
http://yourname.cammodels.com/comments/yourname/
It's always asked me to log in when I click see more comments... maybe I was doing it wrong, LOL.
temptingmodel
09-24-2013, 06:32 PM
snowy might still have them , they use to be in her siggy.. I don't see them now but she did have them.
Can someone PLEASE post the old Streamate Encoder settings before widescreen? It would be really appreciated and I can't find them. :(
Snowy0Star
09-24-2013, 07:35 PM
yeah i still have them i thought no one needed them anymore so i took it out . but heres the download link murpheys law man i just took it off yesterday because no one mentioned it for awhile or was no one mentioning it because it was my siggy? I'll see if i have enuf symbols in my siggy to put it back.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0iySoZCU-AeODlVQzdnRGo3LVk/edit
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I had enuf spare symbols to put it back in my siggy. w00t
JaneBurgess
09-24-2013, 07:41 PM
Thank you
I do. I'll PM them to you. One sec.
Edit: Nevermind. I can't figure out how to PM a photo, but here they are.
JaneBurgess
09-24-2013, 07:42 PM
I had widescreen for a while but I have way better traffic when I am in the old settings and better placement too. I wonder if all the site issues have to do with all the widescreen upgrades.
yeah i still have them i thought no one needed them anymore so i took it out . but heres the download link murpheys law man i just took it off yesterday because no one mentioned it for awhile or was no one mentioning it because it was my siggy? I'll see if i have enuf symbols in my siggy to put it back.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0iySoZCU-AeODlVQzdnRGo3LVk/edit
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I had enuf spare symbols to put it back in my siggy. w00t
Snowy0Star
09-24-2013, 07:46 PM
I had widescreen for a while but I have way better traffic when I am in the old settings and better placement too. I wonder if all the site issues have to do with all the widescreen upgrades.
who knows its SM it could be anything. I just wish they stopped posting on dating sites everyone is feeling it this month its fine i guess when thyere doing it on top of other things but it feels like its all theyre doing right now and thats a bad move. the ones who dont have a steady fanbase/new are hurting right now