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SoloDesire
10-10-2013, 03:43 PM
The think that gets me though is...what about ALL of those people that already have accounts? We don't necessarily need a lot of new traffic...what about the old traffic? A lot of those haven't been showing up lately...that's what concerns me...not where new traffic is coming from.

Snowy0Star
10-10-2013, 03:44 PM
The think that gets me though is...what about ALL of those people that already have accounts? We don't necessarily need a lot of new traffic...what about the old traffic? A lot of those haven't been showing up lately...that's what concerns me...not where new traffic is coming from.

u mean why they cant be retained? probably all the site glitches .

SoloDesire
10-10-2013, 03:46 PM
u mean why they cant be retained? probably all the site glitches .

Possibly...although I haven't heard many complaints from my chat room.

Busygirl
10-10-2013, 03:55 PM
There's only so much you can give to those good ol' regulars before it's the same ol' same ol', and they get bored, or broke. We need new good paying traffic flowing in everyday, otherwise we are in trouble.

ConnyLove
10-10-2013, 04:10 PM
i hear a few models talking in free chat ( top models at that ) about member names being actually bots in their room, created by the site to make seem there is still traffic, but they do not spend or talk at all. I dont say i believe it, I mean how could i without proof, but i wouldn't put it past the site who is really suffering for traffic, to try not to loose their top models, and fake traffic, it's very doable..

It started to happen in my room today. I had 4 times more traffic, and the number of members was always around the same amount of people let's say between 40 -44, regardless of what I was doing . I wasn't doing countdowns , my placement has not changed, nothing new really. None of them talked, I addressed to them and typed without any reply, they were just static names and the only ones who talked were just the same 7 or 8 that I know they are real. It really sucks!

justanothercamgirl
10-10-2013, 07:38 PM
so do u think this will have an affect of the kind of guys we get ? if so for better or worse?

It isn't so much about the kind of guys as it is about the amount.

If the white labels can't push traffic to the site that means SM will have a lot less traffic overall.

Snowy0Star
10-10-2013, 07:40 PM
It isn't so much about the kind of guys as it is about the amount.

If the white labels can't push traffic to the site that means SM will have a lot less traffic overall.

what does this mean for the site then? :/

justanothercamgirl
10-10-2013, 07:58 PM
what does this mean for the site then? :/

Unfortunately that is an unknown variable at this time. It is just to early to even try to make an educated guess.

GlamourRouge
10-10-2013, 08:16 PM
Someone from Streamate (on twitter @streamate) as well as Liz have both confirmed there are no bots. Why would a site waste their time and money doing that anyway lolol? What they are, are guys who are watching from their TV and cannot type to you. Streamate has said this. And that's why traffic increases so hard when you do Gold Shows. You get a rush of traffic. That is what they are.

I'm sure there are also others who just do not talk bc they don't care. Do you know how many times I have talked to a rando in my room and they talk back? A lot. But its usually me complimenting their username. They need a reason to write back to you if they have nothing to say.

Rosemary Rabbit
10-10-2013, 08:18 PM
Didn't this fake-traffic-boost-thingy happen before? And was it around this time last year?

Edit: after GR's post I rescind my 'fake' part to that!

GlamourRouge
10-10-2013, 08:20 PM
Didn't this fake-traffic-boost-thingy happen before? And was it around this time last year?

Yes. This rumor has been going around for over a year lol. I have seen @streamate personally address it on twitter before a few times too.

JoyKitten
10-10-2013, 08:20 PM
I'll just put my two cents in about everything from the last couple pages of post topics:

RE: White Pages
WP's themselves have never been a viable way to be found by search engines, so I don't worry about the Google slapdown with Hummingbird. I consider a WP as simply a branded portal. There's no room to customize it; It's simply another copy of Streamate with different colors & personalized name. All the traffic going there has to be driven by a larger website or blog. For this reason I don't see that the WP's being smacked down will impact SM's overall traffic that much. If the WP webmaster is doing his/her job in creating valuable content on their website, then they WILL be found in search, and if they're found then we'll be found.

RE: People in our rooms not talking.
This is an old complaint that is being re-hashed. Guys not talking could be any number of things.
They could be watching tv AND have their phone or laptop looking at you in your room with no intention of taking a show with you.
Or they started watching you then left to go get a beer but became distracted and didn't return.... but it looks like they're there watching you when they simply left they're browser window open to your room.

Another model was telling me that a clown in free chat told her he was at work at the airport watching her in free chat while he was on the job. He wasn't about to take a show with her but he was taking up space in her room. And we've all had guys who have said, "I'm at work, let me close my door. BRB"

For me it's a necessity to have my head in a positive space while working. My business suffers if I get bent because guys are watching but not buying, so I force myself not to care about the lurkers and instead concentrate on flirting with those who are there. I keep positive, sound happy, talk about how horny I am, telling them what I've got to offer them behind closed doors..... while not giving too much away in free chat. When I have a lot of guys on free chat but no one is buying I make sure to comment, "If you can't play now please favorite me so you can find me again later." Eventually someone wants what I've got and they go for a paid session.

If I begin feeling anxious or down I sign off. Ain't no guy out there wanting to buy desperation. LOL After all, I'm not looking for pity gold, I'm looking to get guys hooked on the positive experience of spending time & money with me, enjoying the escape from their reality that a cammodel like me offers them.

RE: No Traffic In Our Rooms
Just recently while viewing models from the free public home page, I heard a model who was working in Party Chat (or Gold Show?) mode say that she had 24 guys in her room. That shocked me because the public counter I was looking at said she had 44 people watching her (and of course listed all their user names).

We have to remember that while we are in our room with 6 active guys, there could be another 50 members who are signed-in 'hovering' outside our room watching us from the home page full of icons. We've all experienced someone who has taken us private who swept-in out of nowhere. Most likely they were watching us through the little hovering viewer, seeing what we were up to then sweeping in to take us private.

While it sometimes feels painful to put on a happy face, be courteous, friendly, accommodating and REAL, doing so is part of my 'brand'. When the 'happy' veneer begins to crack I sign-off for a bit to recharge, only coming back on when I can 'be' my brand. So far it's working and I'm staying satisfactorily busy.

Obviously what I've listed here won't resonate with some of you, but since there's a lot of chat about what's NOT working, I thought I'd share my experience.

kittykrane
10-11-2013, 08:21 AM
Anyone ever get a message when you try to start a GOLDSHOW that says "You may not do a goldshow right now"? Is this something new? Are they limiting how many can do them at a time? Or maybe is it because I'm waiting for a profile change to be approved?

bigbootyjudy1
10-11-2013, 08:28 AM
Anyone ever get a message when you try to start a GOLDSHOW that says "You may not do a goldshow right now"? Is this something new? Are they limiting how many can do them at a time? Or maybe is it because I'm waiting for a profile change to be approved?

Wow really? That's never happened to me before.But lately ive been working in classic chat.So i'm not doing that many goldshows.It might be a new rule.Do you still have a Five star rating ?

kittykrane
10-11-2013, 08:29 AM
Wow really? That's never happened to me before.But lately ive been working in classic chat.So i'm not doing that many goldshows.It might be a new rule.Do you still have a Five star rating ?


I do still have 5 stars....all I can think is because I updated something and my profile says "pending approval"..I haven't done anything wrong so IDK.

Nocturnelle
10-11-2013, 08:31 AM
Wooooo, I'm loving this updated Streamate. About two weeks ago when I got a TV show offer I had maybe 10 people in my room and NO ONE tipping. Maybe had like, four people tipped in by the end of the countdown.

Tonight, I had close to 80 people in my room and made more then my goal! Then the rest of the night was a breeze, got my average back of about 25 people in the room at one time versus maybe 6 or 8 and made every single gold goal. I hope this keeps up. :)

Snowy0Star
10-11-2013, 08:33 AM
mine says i cant do them due to my streaming status. no clue what that whats means im thinking it has something to do with the fact ive been using my spare computer to cam with and theyre systems picked it up . i did a few sleep GS now i cant them at all :(

Nocturnelle
10-11-2013, 08:35 AM
Double post!

kittykrane
10-11-2013, 08:35 AM
IT's working now..I cleared my cache...maybe my streaming was really slow too. seems ok now

PrincessLuna
10-11-2013, 06:20 PM
We have to remember that while we are in our room with 6 active guys, there could be another 50 members who are signed-in 'hovering' outside our room watching us from the home page full of icons. We've all experienced someone who has taken us private who swept-in out of nowhere. Most likely they were watching us through the little hovering viewer, seeing what we were up to then sweeping in to take us private.

If I'm not mistaken, you cannot see guys that are just hovering over your image. They are not in your room and so they do not show up in your room. These greyed out usernames are actually members that have created accounts but have not put in a CC, or are men who are watching them on cable. Girls who accept TV Gold Shows are required to turn on their free viewer chat for the guys watching on TV so it shows these other men as being in the chat, but they can't take you private. I turn them off and don't consider them viewers as they don't even add to the Party Chat guys overall number (which is why she said there were almost half of what you saw).

Edit: Most definitely can't see them hovering over the image to watch. Had someone test it.

JaneBurgess
10-11-2013, 06:44 PM
I don't believe Streamate has bots or ever will have bots. I just think you have a lot of people that don't talk. I sure wish more would talk since it makes me wonder what they are doing.

GlamourRouge
10-11-2013, 07:17 PM
I don't believe Streamate has bots or ever will have bots. I just think you have a lot of people that don't talk. I sure wish more would talk since it makes me wonder what they are doing.

If I had to take my best educated guess, I would guess they are masturbating.

JaneBurgess
10-11-2013, 08:09 PM
That's what I figured. Hell we can masturbate and type at the same time, so should they. :)



If I had to take my best educated guess, I would guess they are masturbating.

luscious sadie
10-11-2013, 09:02 PM
sometimes I get bots in pvt that just sit there and say things like "oh yes bb" "mmm" sometimes I can tell others I'm sure I can't. I think that these are tube bots and not SM bots tho.

justanothercamgirl
10-11-2013, 09:32 PM
Anyone ever get a message when you try to start a GOLDSHOW that says "You may not do a goldshow right now"? Is this something new? Are they limiting how many can do them at a time? Or maybe is it because I'm waiting for a profile change to be approved?

I've gotten that before, but it usually lets me start a show if I click it to try it again a minute later. I assume it is just a glitch.

Cam_Model_Jess
10-11-2013, 09:58 PM
sometimes I get bots in pvt that just sit there and say things like "oh yes bb" "mmm" sometimes I can tell others I'm sure I can't. I think that these are tube bots and not SM bots tho.

In private? No, I doubt it. I think there are a lot of foreign guys who see what other guys are typing & imitate them, and there are guys who are just too busy to type anything else, or think it's camsite etiquette to speak only Moron. But paying bots? Nope. Not buying it.

Procrasturbator
10-12-2013, 08:49 AM
Question: does anyone know how being blocked looks from the customer's side (if you don't block them from sending messages)?

I want to start doing voyeur shows but I just know that one of my regs is going to come in and start shit, and I'm particularly creeped out by the idea of him watching me sleep (not guys in general, just him.) He's the kind of guy that would buy into every voyeur show and just sit there watching me (and getting upset when I don't answer him), not because he's actually into voyeur but because he's so obsessive/clingy. So I was thinking maybe I could just block him when I'm doing long voyeur shows and unblock him when I'm done? But I definitely don't want him to know about it. Any ideas?

Cam_Model_Jess
10-12-2013, 09:02 AM
^^You need to also block him from sending messages to make it harder for him to see that he's banned. If you don't block from messages, your profile will still be visible to him. Then it says "You have been permanently banned from viewing this performer's show."

But if you also ban him from messages, your profile will not appear to him. Then he has to go into his paid sessions, find your page from there, and then he'll get the message that he's banned. If he really is obsessive, he'll probably figure it out anyway, but I wouldn't worry about it. If he complains to you about it (after he's unbanned), just make it sound like he's nuts. "I don't know, bb. It must be a glitch." He won't be able to see what kind of shows you're doing I don't think.

SexyAleks
10-12-2013, 09:02 AM
Yes, there is a pop-up message saying "You have been permanently blocked by this performer".

LittleSexBunny
10-12-2013, 12:34 PM
Anyone ever get a message when you try to start a GOLDSHOW that says "You may not do a goldshow right now"? Is this something new? Are they limiting how many can do them at a time? Or maybe is it because I'm waiting for a profile change to be approved?

yes this happened to me last week. I had to log out and log back in. Then it started working again :)

LittleSexBunny
10-12-2013, 12:44 PM
I go to google... type in "live cam girls" and nothing from sm comes up on the first page. Its a bunch of other sites. I make pretty good money on sm, but its mainly been from awesome regulars lately. I can DEFINITELY feel the drop in traffic. It does worry me a little bit.. but I smile and make it work still.

kortneykay
10-12-2013, 12:50 PM
Is SM ranking for "live cam girls"? They may have other keywords that they are ranking for. Also, some people advertise other ways and not necessarily through SEO, though SEO is one of the best ways to advertise.

justanothercamgirl
10-12-2013, 01:05 PM
I go to google... type in "live cam girls" and nothing from sm comes up on the first page. Its a bunch of other sites. I make pretty good money on sm, but its mainly been from awesome regulars lately. I can DEFINITELY feel the drop in traffic. It does worry me a little bit.. but I smile and make it work still.

Just a side note, if you are searching through Google when you are logged into your account what you see as a search result won't necessarily be what other people see.

Google is moving towards having everyone see different search results that are personalized towards their individual needs.

Cam_Model_Jess
10-12-2013, 01:58 PM
...because Google IS the new Big Brother. *shivers*

justanothercamgirl
10-12-2013, 02:09 PM
...because Google IS the new Big Brother. *shivers*

Agreed.

Well, Google and Windows 8.

How lucky for us that we get two of them. (*sighs*)

Snowy0Star
10-12-2013, 02:10 PM
Just a side note, if you are searching through Google when you are logged into your account what you see as a search result won't necessarily be what other people see.

Google is moving towards having everyone see different search results that are personalized towards their individual needs.

ive known that tho i think its cool google knows what i like based on the sites i go to and gives me results in my search engine based on that . it makes it easier to find what im looking for

justanothercamgirl
10-12-2013, 02:12 PM
ive known that tho i think its cool google knows what i like based on the sites i go to and gives me results in my search engine based on that . it makes it easier to find what im looking for

There are many pros to with the direction that Google has decided to take.

There is also many cons......especially if you happen to be a camgirl who is not 'out'.

JoyKitten
10-13-2013, 12:42 AM
They may be recording it. There's this guy that occasionally goes into my shows (he waits in my free chat, then once someone takes me private, he goes into private too), doesn't say one word and rates me a 5 after the show. I'm pretty sure he must be recording my shows, which is what I always suspect with guys who don't say anything.

I agree with Jess, there's definantly not paying bots, lol.

It's easy to record our shows. There's so much available free technology for that. My suspicion is that if someone is paying your per-minute rate they'd be typing to you, asking you to do something which their viewing audience would like to see you do on the recording. So, personally, I'd be surprised if you've got bots recording your premium shows.
I've seen SM cammodels videos hosted on clip sites which are clearly Gold shows, one flat Gold show $2 for 10 minutes, guys record away and re-post the vid on another pay site or a troll forum.

RE: Wordless Watchers
Personally I don't find it at all unusual that guys pop into our room, often repeatedly week after week, without saying a word. They're here to be entertained. They like something about us, so they pop by to see us. Think about it.......
If they wanted to spend money AND talk they'd be making points with their wives or girlfriends by talking to them. Porn is an escape to a world without the need to hold a conversation, have women belittle or tell them they're 'doing it wrong'. Men pay their money to escape with us, get a little variety in their life. We do what we can to figure out what will help them bust a nut (feel better) then they leave without the sensation of letting us down or like they must hold a conversation. They've unloaded their glue gun, their hands are sticky with goo or lube, they've paid their money for services rendered, they're gone. That's our world. LOL

luscious sadie
10-13-2013, 12:51 AM
They may be recording it. There's this guy that occasionally goes into my shows (he waits in my free chat, then once someone takes me private, he goes into private too), doesn't say one word and rates me a 5 after the show. I'm pretty sure he must be recording my shows, which is what I always suspect with guys who don't say anything.

I agree with Jess, there's definantly not paying bots, lol.

Yeah I didn't really want to say it but I'm pretty good at knowing when they're paying bots. I sometimes walk away from the computer when I'm sure and come back and they're still there "mmm oh yes bb" when I've been smoking or making food or something for the last five minutes.

JoyKitten
10-13-2013, 01:11 AM
If I'm not mistaken, you cannot see guys that are just hovering over your image. They are not in your room and so they do not show up in your room. These greyed out usernames are actually members that have created accounts but have not put in a CC, or are men who are watching them on cable. Girls who accept TV Gold Shows are required to turn on their free viewer chat for the guys watching on TV so it shows these other men as being in the chat, but they can't take you private. I turn them off and don't consider them viewers as they don't even add to the Party Chat guys overall number (which is why she said there were almost half of what you saw).

Edit: Most definitely can't see them hovering over the image to watch. Had someone test it.

I agree with what you've said.
Having so many guys in our room watching us, without us being aware of it, is important to know so we remember that we're never really in in empty room. There's always 100 pairs of eyes on us, even if they're not showing up in our room count.

Since day one I have always known never be silent, even if my room count is 0. I knew there were people watching. So I would look directly into the camera pretending to chat & flirt with guys who weren't there. The one's hovering outside don't know there's no one with me! Even once they do enter my room I keep talking to the imaginary person, then I'll say "Hi" to the new person that entered. Everyone knows that it's important to seem desired and busy. Is a party a party if nobody is talking or dancing? Of course not! We want our room to seem alive, and us desirable! We've got to fake it 'til we make it.

So keep in mind your situation is better than it may appear. There are guys who are watching you, maybe hundreds of guys, playing the voyeur from the floating viewer box, waiting for the right moment to come in to take the next step toward spending money or at least favoriting you for another time. Don't worry, be happy!

blondhottie
10-13-2013, 08:41 AM
I just started on SM and have the HD encoder. But I couldn't figure out how to see myself in the encoder and see the chat at the same time, I had to keep switching back and forth. Is there any way to see both at the same time?

chloemonet
10-13-2013, 09:32 AM
After reading this thread I was a little nervous about starting out on SM. But i started two days ago and so far I've made about $80, so I'd say it's pretty decent for a new girl and I definitely like the vibe way better than my old site. I've had my account for a while but haven't used it so I don't have the new girl tag or anything, but I'm getting business so it's cool :) My only gripe so far is the payout rate, I didn't realize it was 35% until after I'd set my rates and gotten a few shows, thinking of raising them before I go live today!

Thank you ladies for this thread, it's been very helpful in starting out on the right foot on SM! <333

VictoriaChaos
10-13-2013, 09:45 AM
I just started on SM and have the HD encoder. But I couldn't figure out how to see myself in the encoder and see the chat at the same time, I had to keep switching back and forth. Is there any way to see both at the same time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha8SQhEf9ME

blondhottie
10-13-2013, 09:56 AM
Thank you Victoria!

QuinnRossi
10-14-2013, 07:47 AM
I'm planning on doing my very first show on SM today, and I'm SUPER NERVOUS. However after being a lurker on this thread for the past week, I now have the guts to dive in. Thank you to all of you lovelies for your contributions to this and all over SW. It really helps frightened little newbies like me more than you'll ever know!:-*

rachelleigh
10-14-2013, 03:15 PM
I'm pretty sure that when you see 100 and she says 80, it's because the other 20 are in the freechat section on the bottom. They see the whole number, not broken into customers with cc's vs. ones without. Sometimes I'll have only 30 paying customers but as many as 20 free dudes. Sometimes I read that free chat section when I need a lol.

funismymiddlename
10-15-2013, 01:48 PM
Is anyone missing earnings from SM?

I just got online. I made $16 then I had to log off for a min. I came back and did another show. I noticed I only got paid for the other show but the $16 and the listing of the shows had disappeared. This has never happened to me before I'm scared to even go back to SM until they fix this I'm glad there isn't a bigger amount missing. I just contacted SM I hope they fix this soon. :(

seller317
10-15-2013, 01:56 PM
I just lost $21 from todays earnings as well!! Royally pissed as this is my main site and the majority of my income. Hoping for some answers and reinbursment soon lol yea right : (

funismymiddlename
10-15-2013, 01:57 PM
I just lost $21 from todays earnings as well!! Royally pissed as this is my main site and the majority of my income. Hoping for some answers and reinbursment soon lol yea right : (

I think if everyone complains they will fix it. I hope.

sexyred
10-15-2013, 01:59 PM
Wow, I have over 300 missing from my earnings. I contacted support as well.