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chloemonet
12-11-2013, 01:13 PM
I have just come back after a few years to streamate under a new name.....anyway IS there a way to block douchebags after they have left??? Doesn't seem like you can.
:-/
Also, when I look at my blocked list, I have literally blocked the same guy 4+ times and you can clearly tell by the list that he is just keeps changing his name slightly.
sadly no :( you have to block them while they're in your room. i've noticed that assholes will come back so try to block them as soon as you see their name again
laurielegs
12-11-2013, 01:20 PM
Can't block them after they have left unless you already had their profile pulled up and most douchebags cowardly run away fast so hard to catch em.
A lot of guys have similar names. Unless this guy has 4 credit cards and keeps making new accounts he can't be the same guy. Once you block an account it stays blocked no matter how many times he changes the name on it. (Make a note on the profile of the original name and you can see the name changes). I have one regular who changes his name every day - drives me nutso.
I have just come back after a few years to streamate under a new name.....anyway IS there a way to block douchebags after they have left??? Doesn't seem like you can.
:-/
Also, when I look at my blocked list, I have literally blocked the same guy 4+ times and you can clearly tell by the list that he is just keeps changing his name slightly.
BellaK
12-11-2013, 01:24 PM
Can't block them after they have left unless you already had their profile pulled up and most douchebags cowardly run away fast so hard to catch em.
A lot of guys have similar names. Unless this guy has 4 credit cards and keeps making new accounts he can't be the same guy. Once you block an account it stays blocked no matter how many times he change the name on it. (Make a note on the profile of the original name and you can see the name changes). I have one regular who changes his name every day - drives me nutso.
Exactly!Okay thx. Hmmmm interesting. Yeah this guy's name is the exact same, except the last numbers....emailing sending his number. SO annoying. lol
Snowy0Star
12-11-2013, 02:18 PM
Being offline for a week or more isn't going to make you drop back pages. I take weeks off here and there all the time, several weeks in the summer, and it doesn't drop me down.
There are a lot of things that are going to determine placement.
Here's a copy/paste from the "Placement" section of the Performer Manual (which you can find under your support tab when you log in):
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Placement
Placement on Streamate depends on several factors. The biggest are listed below.
Video Quality
Your video quality is the most important placement factor. Streaming successfully with HD quality will
improve your placement. Performers who run the External Encoder have the highest video quality on the
site. Read Streaming Quality for more information on video options. For more recommendations on ways to
improve your video quality, read Improving Your Video Stream.
Widescreen
Streaming in Widescreen (16:9) increases your placement on the site. Ideally, you should use a camera that
supports widescreen. However if it doesn’t, the settings for the Internal and External Encoders can adjust
this for you automatically.
Audio Streaming
Members prefer shows with sound, so using audio will also help your placement. You don’t have to be loud –
just having your mic on will give you this advantage.
Ratings
Higher ratings mean higher placement. Encourage members to give you good ratings and try to put on great
shows that are worth five stars. Read the Ratings section for more information on how your Ratings are
calculated.
If you have several ratings of three stars or less, or receive less than 5 ratings in the previous 90 days, this
can start to hurt your placement. If this is the case, focus on improving your show and being rated more
often. Contact us if you have any concerns about your ratings.
Popularity and Consistency
Performers who stream regularly will see better placement than performers who only get online every once
in a while. Performers who stream regularly are also seen by more people, pick up more favorites and
regulars, get rated more often, and have more people in their room, all of which has an effect on placement!
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I was once told that ratings have a BIG impact, as well as consistent hours. Taking a week long break shouldn't hurt you if you aren't taking week long breaks all the time. If you are new and you took a week off, that might be different because you really need to build consistency because that has been said to be a huge factor as well.
And of course even though they don't flat out say it, money made in the time online is surely factored in too.
this is great to hear ive been worry about my paid time in % yesterday i only made 35 in 4 and half hours and logged off an hour and a half early because my paid % went down to 17% and i normally do 30%
PlayfulDesire
12-11-2013, 02:18 PM
So after being on sm today and checking my earnings I'm a bit confused on part of it.
B went to pvt with me twice
This is what I see
b 19:20:51 40.00% Cammodels $7.36 2m 23s $2.94
b 19:20:51 Premium $3.09/min 2m 23s $2.58
b 19:41:20 Premium $3.09/min 42s $1.08
b 19:41:20 40.00% Cammodels $3.09 42s $1.24
If I'm correct this means that he signed up via my cammodels link and went private with me? So I get the normal pvt price and then an extra 40%?
Snowy0Star
12-11-2013, 02:28 PM
So after being on sm today and checking my earnings I'm a bit confused on part of it.
B went to pvt with me twice
This is what I see
b 19:20:51 40.00% Cammodels $7.36 2m 23s $2.94
b 19:20:51 Premium $3.09/min 2m 23s $2.58
b 19:41:20 Premium $3.09/min 42s $1.08
b 19:41:20 40.00% Cammodels $3.09 42s $1.24
If I'm correct this means that he signed up via my cammodels link and went private with me? So I get the normal pvt price and then an extra 40%?
yeah thats exactly what that means !
BlueBunny
12-11-2013, 02:48 PM
I suspected the number of ratings is probably the biggest factor if all other conditions are met. Makes me wonder how many ratings/90 days top row girls have.
SarahTime
12-11-2013, 02:59 PM
So after being on sm today and checking my earnings I'm a bit confused on part of it.
B went to pvt with me twice
This is what I see
b 19:20:51 40.00% Cammodels $7.36 2m 23s $2.94
b 19:20:51 Premium $3.09/min 2m 23s $2.58
b 19:41:20 Premium $3.09/min 42s $1.08
b 19:41:20 40.00% Cammodels $3.09 42s $1.24
If I'm correct this means that he signed up via my cammodels link and went private with me? So I get the normal pvt price and then an extra 40%?
Yes! Congrats! :) And you get 20% of whatever else he spends on other models!
SarahTime
12-11-2013, 03:00 PM
I suspected the number of ratings is probably the biggest factor if all other conditions are met. Makes me wonder how many ratings/90 days top row girls have.
I'm usually in the first 3 rows.... since I quit doing gold shows and stick mostly to pvt/excl I get about 7 ratings a day
caramelDip
12-11-2013, 03:10 PM
I think I'm going to stick to night's on SM. I do well at night plus I get a lot guys in the morning tipping me but can't take me private because their at work and don't wanna get caught/fired lol
And all of them (so far) have came back at night to get a show. And also a whole gang of new members :)
Do any of you girls have any tips on staying up late? I get sleepy at 8 pm. coffee doesn't work. Tragic.
luscious sadie
12-11-2013, 03:12 PM
yeah I'mm top 3 rows and get between 2-10 ratings a day
MissQuirk
12-11-2013, 03:16 PM
Can I complain for a sec >__>
Sometimes Streamate's customer service (or lack thereof) sort of aggravates me :<
I just read the entire voyeur thread (and like 3 other related ones), took notes, etc. and decided I might as well message management and ask if they plan on allowing a second account for voyeur eventually since apparently they did for awhile, and also if they have any tips or guidelines as far as content because I did see another lovely lady got suspended for 24 hours for not showing herself enough in frame even though she thought she was following rules 100%. I asked if they had any tips or guidelines to help make sure I stayed within the rules.
Their entire message back was
"You need to make sure it is listed in your show topic explicitly that it is a voyeur show.
Streamate Performer Support"
*sigh* I guess that helps, I would've done that anyway. I just wish they could've even lightly addressed my question about other accounts and guidelines. Even just a "no. wing it!" would have been splendid. :S Now I just feel stupid for asking.
laurielegs
12-11-2013, 04:05 PM
Can I complain for a sec >__>
Sometimes Streamate's customer service (or lack thereof) sort of aggravates me :<
I just read the entire voyeur thread (and like 3 other related ones), took notes, etc. and decided I might as well message management and ask if they plan on allowing a second account for voyeur eventually since apparently they did for awhile, and also if they have any tips or guidelines as far as content because I did see another lovely lady got suspended for 24 hours for not showing herself enough in frame even though she thought she was following rules 100%. I asked if they had any tips or guidelines to help make sure I stayed within the rules.
Their entire message back was
"You need to make sure it is listed in your show topic explicitly that it is a voyeur show.
Streamate Performer Support"
*sigh* I guess that helps, I would've done that anyway. I just wish they could've even lightly addressed my question about other accounts and guidelines. Even just a "no. wing it!" would have been splendid. :S Now I just feel stupid for asking.
I've had the same experience.
I wanted a second account to do strictly domme / voyeur on. They refused me and told me that nobody is allowed to have more than one account.
I know this is absolutely a lie because I see performers with voyeur accounts. Pisses me off.
Busygirl
12-11-2013, 05:08 PM
I see performers with no voyer account but regular second accounts, i saw 2 actually recently.
gingerstripper
12-11-2013, 05:17 PM
whoa, was today just fucking horrible on sm or what.
Today sucked! i was on the first row and couldn't do a gold show for the life of me!
did a few short pvts and made 27 dollars. 77 total....but nowhere near my goal
today was weird.. i logged off feel weird...
i just.. where the hell was everybody!?!?!?
I felt like i did something wrong, cause no one was tipping much at all!
sigh....
anyone else have a weird day? I am going on at night... although I do not want to... but 77 dollars dont cut it.
luscious sadie
12-11-2013, 05:56 PM
my traffic has been weird all week which is weird because I'm always within the first three rows (normally first row). There will be times when I hve literally no one in my room and then other times where it's full. Who knows.
Alylondon
12-11-2013, 06:06 PM
Streamate has been very weird for me today, I get steady traffic most days that i log on but today is extremely weird. I'm the first girl, first page for ebony girls but i've only gotten one private today, the rest have been beggars or assholes :( maybe it's just because it's daytime? but guys just seem to be logging in and out, talking briefly and leaving, so on and so on. i don't really mind staying on until traffic picks up later in the night but this is getting abnormal lol
Either way I love Streamate to pieces and I'm trying my hardest to perfect my hustle there :)
I feel your pain Chloe! That's been happening to me A LOT. I wonder what is making them get kicked out of the room. Whenever I say hi they just leave....its getting really flushstrating and making me want to go elsewhere :(
luscious sadie
12-11-2013, 06:18 PM
they're just leaving they're not getting kicked out.
Alylondon
12-11-2013, 06:21 PM
ahhhh thanks.....self esteem going lower hahahaha
luscious sadie
12-11-2013, 06:24 PM
it's really nothing to feel bad about. Most guys are in and out and rarely stay. I've noticed that they stay if you're holding a conversation or "doing something" but sometimes even when that's going on they don't. IMO most guys just come in, check prices, and leave. It's always and everyone... definitely not personal but definitely not guys getting kicked out unless they're saying that they're getting kicked out.
try to be doing engaging things and engaging with people. Easier said than done most of the time tho.
Alylondon
12-11-2013, 06:28 PM
Alright alright alright I see. I've been doing this on and off for 2 years and I still really haven't gotten the hang of it. A lot of the guys are saying 3.99 a min is to expensive...I think i'm kinda on the low scale because i'm attractive, speak english, have a good cam and sound....and I can't get more than 4-5 people to stay in and chat with me. I try to have good convos I just don't get it :(
Glamourmilf
12-11-2013, 06:45 PM
Earlier was strange for me too. lots of those weird illegal requests, and even a repeat (who didn't realize that he had a prvt. with me a bunch of times in the past month), stayed long enough in my free chat to tell me that I'm not pretty enough to go prvt. with! WTF?? Plus, a few of those abusive guys who I've made notes on to never go prvt with,also came in today, Luckily I got to finally block them.
I only had 2 prvt.s. in 2 hours. Here's hoping tonight is better for all of us!
Cam_Model_Jess
12-11-2013, 06:45 PM
If a guy were to tell me "$3.99 is too expensive" I'd say "Then I guess you need to leave my room." and kick them the hell out. Or "I guess you need to go find a model you can afford." F... all that noise. It's not about YOU it's about THEM (the complaining). They've just learned to try to bargain apparently. Are you inviting that kind of talk? That's not an accusation, I'm just wondering if there's something in your expression/posture that says you're not confident? I charge more than that, and (other than a studio owner who was harassing me) I've never had someone complain about my prices, but then again it's apparent to anyone in my room that I don't give a crap what they think. Of course, it's entirely possible that you're super confident & they're just trying to knock you down a peg :( Jerks.
Alylondon
12-11-2013, 06:56 PM
I usually just say "ahh to bad" if there rude I ban them. I think I give off confidence..my make-up, hair and outfit is always really nice. I always say hi and smile. If there in my room for more than 3 mins without saying a word when I greet them I kick them out. When they decide they want to to talk to me I always make conversation. I know i'm doing something wrong i just need to figure out what. Because there is NO way I should be barley making 100 a day
SexyLittleThing
12-11-2013, 07:03 PM
Don't you ever think that 3.99 per minute is too much. It isn't. It's too low IMO. I have the same price and no one ever complained about that. They complained when I tried to up my prices.
One odd thing happend today - a guy gets in my room and says "You can suck a cock so deep" and I say "Oh yes I can" and he tips me 2 GOLD and says that I should do it. I just laughed it off and said to him "I'm not blinking for 2 GOLD" and kicked him out.
They have such nerves. Don't listen to them. And don't ever lower your prices - you know what you're worth!
The thing is - you need to be consistant. Work as much as you can, get as many regulars as you can. But you need to be consistant and you'll do just fine!
CurvyWinona
12-11-2013, 07:20 PM
i had the same problem on SM. couple custies said cannot enter my room or my private. wtf. i only made $102 today on SM before 7pm. my goal was $200. i will try again tomorrow.
Busygirl
12-11-2013, 08:02 PM
The site better got rid of the 30 second rule. The abuse it's unbelievable!!! All sites can do it, you should be able to.
I had 86 members abusing it today. Have they been charged for a minute each i would have made close to a 100 dollars. It's an epidemic now and needs to change. Take note.
SoloDesire
12-11-2013, 08:05 PM
The site better got rid of the 30 second rule. The abuse it's unbelievable!!! All sites can do it, you should be able to.
I had 86 members abusing it today. Have they been charged for a minute each i would have made close to a 100 dollars. It's an epidemic now and needs to change. Take note.
I agree that more people than ever are finding this out and abusing it. It would be awesome if SM could take it down to even 20 seconds and see how many assholes would get charged before they jet lol.
Snowy0Star
12-11-2013, 08:08 PM
they get 65% of whatever we make so in the end theyre hurting themselves more IMO. i dont know what we can do to get SM to change this tho
GlamourRouge
12-11-2013, 08:15 PM
They have said a million times that it cannot ever be changed because of the rules of their payment processor or billing area or something. It is required to decrease fraud.
h0ttie
12-11-2013, 08:35 PM
i wish they would change how long you have to be in a show to rate, it makes me so mad that some loser can come in and rate you bad, after 31 seconds, (aka when they get annoyed they got charged and didn't get to see you for free). and that it counts the same as the guys that actually did shows.
Busygirl
12-11-2013, 08:40 PM
They have said a million times that it cannot ever be changed because of the rules of their payment processor or billing area or something. It is required to decrease fraud.
I do not buy it.
Snowy0Star
12-11-2013, 08:55 PM
They have said a million times that it cannot ever be changed because of the rules of their payment processor or billing area or something. It is required to decrease fraud.
i knew it had something to do with chargebacks and stuff but i didnt know it was required by their payment procesor . who do they use
GlamourRouge
12-11-2013, 09:08 PM
i knew it had something to do with chargebacks and stuff but i didnt know it was required by their payment procesor . who do they use
The chargebacks are controlled by the payment processor
Busygirl
12-11-2013, 09:15 PM
So, i'm stupid maybe, but explain how will 30 seconds for free before each show is going to prevent a charge back. I seriously want to know.
Most charge-backs occur after the shows anyway. That's what i know.
luscious sadie
12-11-2013, 09:30 PM
I do not buy it.
what is there to "not buy"?
Busygirl
12-11-2013, 09:38 PM
Well can you explain it then how it works?
Blovely
12-11-2013, 09:50 PM
What I don't get is why Imlive has the free seconds yet they don't cover chargebacks but SM does.
SarahTime
12-11-2013, 09:54 PM
Well can you explain it then how it works?
Payment processors especially those who have Visa have pretty strict requirements when it comes to adult sites.
Streamate is a huge site that processes a lot of money. They also have a lot of glitches. If a member goes into private chat and the feed won't load but they are charged, they will want to charge back. A high number of chargebacks makes the site at risk of losing their Visa processing privileges.
Offering a 30 second window to make sure the feed is going to display properly significantly lowers the chances of a chargeback.
This is just one example of why they have this policy. But it's not some made up excuse, it's actually a requirement put on them most likely by being able to accept Visa.
It sucks for us because of how much the system is abused. But, it's sure better than being responsible for chargebacks.
Cam_Model_Jess
12-11-2013, 09:54 PM
I agree that more people than ever are finding this out...
...from SW partially.... :banghead:
Repeatedly and explicitly explaining to customers exactly how to rip you off and then complaining about how they keep doing it... just makes me shake my head.
Snowy0Star
12-11-2013, 09:55 PM
What I don't get is why Imlive has the free seconds yet they don't cover chargebacks but SM does.
i thought im live didnt give free seconds how many do they get?
SarahTime
12-11-2013, 09:58 PM
Also, another example, and the reason I believe it's most likely a requirement to be able to accept Visa, is because if you have a pay site and use the payment processor CCBill for example, which my husband and I used on my site and all of his when he ran a cash program, you have to pay a huge fee to accept Visa because it is an adult site, and adult sites are notorious for getting chargebacks. If you don't stay below a certain percentage for chargebacks they revoke your Visa privileges.
Blovely
12-11-2013, 10:03 PM
i thought im live didnt give free seconds how many do they get?
I remember reading a thread where someone said they did. Or maybe I'm thinking of another site.
Snowy0Star
12-11-2013, 10:07 PM
I remember reading a thread where someone said they did. Or maybe I'm thinking of another site.
im thinking u were thinking a different site a lot of times i get guys who take me pvt on imlive and leave in the first 10 seconds but ive seen charges to my shows for as little as 5 seconds
brittany_bitch
12-11-2013, 10:07 PM
Okay so I am not new on sm so that's not my placement issue. Thanks sarahtime and camgirl :) I am very confused. Here is a breakdown of what I earned and how much I worked and so on lol. Okay so I was spending too much time on sm and not making what I should in that time so I took a few weeks off I was always on page 5 not using the encoder.So I started using the encoder !! I had my best week ever I could have made more but to me I did great for 50 hours that week I stopped at 905.00. I felt great and thought okay this is finally going to get better. The next week I worked 4 days and made 540.00 in 30 hours. I took the rest of that week off because I had hit my goal! I also worked my ass off for that 900 so I needed a break. I was happy with my 540 for 4 days and that was good with me. So the next week I had thanksgiving and alot of work to do lol. I got lazy and mainly because I cooked a feast to feed an army lol. So that whole week I did not work. Last week I was still being lazy but I logged on wensday and worked untill saturday morning. Not that whole time lol just those 3 days. I made 390 for 17 hours. I was still on page one considering I took a few longer breaks I figured I would be fine anytime taking a day or a few off. I never use sound but I was still up there.I offer everything else phone, have 5 stars, widescreen, hd,encoder etc. I still have 5 stars maybe it is because I have not gotten any ratings lately idk. But this week today I logged on and I am on page 4 to start and made my way to page 3. That is scary for me because being on 3,4 and 5 before I had to sit and sit and sit. I was making my goals in like 3 to 5 hours which made me so happy. I emailed support and they said use hd I do!! I don't know but this is very frustrating. My percent in paid was the highest ever since I was on page one. I am worried about my earnings now.
Busygirl
12-11-2013, 10:22 PM
Lots of sites don't need to do this, and they are still around. Also the placement issue:
they do what they want, it's their site, good luck in getting in their grace somehow, then you are set.
I'm irritated. Sorry girls.
brittany_bitch
12-11-2013, 10:30 PM
That's ok hun :) I am irritated too lol. I just don't get it I mean I know they pick their faves and all but I don't think I would or have been their fave lol. It is really confusing as to why I would get to page one magically and then drop.
Blovely
12-11-2013, 10:31 PM
Lots of sites don't need to do this, and they are still around.
But how many of these ancient sites cover chargebacks???? If the 30sec allows SM to cover chargebacks then I'm here for it. #jus.sayin
brittany_bitch
12-11-2013, 10:33 PM
I am fine with the 30 seconds too. I never even got many peepers on page one which is why I need to get back to page one asap. Guess I will work tonight and hope to get back.
brittany_bitch
12-12-2013, 12:53 AM
Omg I had a guy come into chat earlier today and he said "I won't hurt you hanna lea". I was like wtf then he said it again. I was like oh well whatever if he comes back I will block him because he left too soon. So I log on for a sec to see if my placement is fixed and I have a message from him saying "so are we gonna fuck or what" then another on saying and no I won't hurt you hanna lea. What the hell so I blocked him this time since he sent a message what a loser. What I am wondering is witf is hanna lea lmao.