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Holly_xoxo
02-05-2014, 11:35 AM
guess SM doesn't want me making money today. Someone keeps trying to take me pvt and gets an error message.

Bubblegum1235
02-05-2014, 11:52 AM
That being said, the site is still going through upgrades, and I have a feeling they are trying to make it more app-friendly because ipads and tablets are still growing. I also suspect that the next iphone (or the one after that) will be more like a hybrid of the current iphone mixed with a mini tablet. Only much flatter. Which is good because it will make watching streamate on a phone (for the custy) much more desirable IMO.
Streamate now works way better now in my Ipad, it was impossible to watch a stream before, now the image is really fluent and the interface looks really nice. It´s great because so many people uses their phones/tablets to watch porn...

SophieL
02-05-2014, 12:10 PM
anyones mic not working sm.... it works fine on mfc... but its not working today on sm...
I got on this am and was told by guest that my sound was bad.

laurielegs
02-05-2014, 12:43 PM
I agree
now I will be a hypocrite
I give vids.. maybe 2 or 3 mins each , charge extra. On c4s yes we get more BUT if its not fetish I stick with the basic price. (I give a recording of a prev GS that is usually cut)
On c4s I charge 2.99? maybe 3.99
SM its 10.00 per vid , already making the full price of c4s.
When I flip it the % is abt the same.
If the guys where smart they would buy into the GC for only 20.00 and get the exact same vids PLUS 2 years of vids. (its 20.00 to join GC and get all content that sm already owns, no downloads, everything right there)

If they where really smart ONLY ONE CAUGHT THIS LOL I was giving a link to a pirated video that's been on the web for years and BORING AF. (that was my personal joke on custis) I get a lot of hits off this one pirated vid so Im not removing it , that is why the link is there.

Some vids I keep out there and some I have taken down.

Sometimes I wish that train for the vids on profile didn't pass by while my where closed. That would've been nice. Then again Im sure something was impacting the site w that hence they don't offer it?

This I like!

So you sell vids on SM with your gold shows but you are selling them at a profit for yourself, not giving away 40 or more for a dollar!

$10 per video for a 3 min video is more like it. I wish more would price their videos this way.

Snowy0Star
02-05-2014, 12:50 PM
I agree
now I will be a hypocrite
I give vids.. maybe 2 or 3 mins each , charge extra. On c4s yes we get more BUT if its not fetish I stick with the basic price. (I give a recording of a prev GS that is usually cut)
On c4s I charge 2.99? maybe 3.99
SM its 10.00 per vid , already making the full price of c4s.
When I flip it the % is abt the same.
If the guys where smart they would buy into the GC for only 20.00 and get the exact same vids PLUS 2 years of vids. (its 20.00 to join GC and get all content that sm already owns, no downloads, everything right there)

If they where really smart ONLY ONE CAUGHT THIS LOL I was giving a link to a pirated video that's been on the web for years and BORING AF. (that was my personal joke on custis) I get a lot of hits off this one pirated vid so Im not removing it , that is why the link is there.

Some vids I keep out there and some I have taken down.

Sometimes I wish that train for the vids on profile didn't pass by while my where closed. That would've been nice. Then again Im sure something was impacting the site w that hence they don't offer it?

i dont think its being a hypocrite because the way ur doing its $10 for a 3 min vid is about $3.30 per min witch is a good price. i may start doing that - sell teaser vids then edit in a credits page with my c4s link =^y^=

CurvyWinona
02-05-2014, 12:53 PM
All of my vids I sold have watermark with C4S/twitter/email posted in the end. So they know where to find me off the site.

Lum
02-05-2014, 12:57 PM
i don't offer videos but i thought if i did would it be ok to water mark them with my twitter and other things? i get paranoid i would get busted.

CurvyWinona
02-05-2014, 01:02 PM
I have been doing that over a year with no problem. I give custies no other contact info but download links in messages on SM... which is permitted. I doubt they check links to see whole of my videos to find whatever is not permitted. The custies bought my videos and I delivered them the downloadable links. Shrugs. I price my video for 10 gold each or two for 15 gold.

Lum
02-05-2014, 01:03 PM
thanks! was curious about this... might have to give it a try ;)

Charlotteslut
02-05-2014, 02:44 PM
Can we not talk about negative stuff in The Streamate thread? Can you go post that in Camming Sucks Right Now or something so people that don't want to focus on negativity don't have to read it? I'd hate to have to give up this thread. It used to be a positive and informative one.

I understand tech issue posts, but complaining about what girls are doing that you don't like isn't going to make them stop doing it. You cannot control what other people do, so its kind of a pointless topic to discuss IMO. Its not like they are breaking the rules. And its not like these are new trends.




0$ Gold shows are a new thing, which is what sparked the discussion. Why not discuss trends on SM? Giving away 30 videos for a 2$ buy in is relatively new on SM.

And if people want to discuss bad business practices on SM...let them? No one is forcing you to read the discussion in depth. It seems silly to expect other people stop posting about what they are concerned with about SM so the thread can remain "positive" in your eyes.

justanothercamgirl
02-05-2014, 03:10 PM
1. End of camming when we had sound in free "oMG NO One IS GoInG To TAKE MEEEEEEEEE private" (they love our voices)
2. End of camming when we had to simply use the EASIEST ROUND OF ENCODER on sm (could u imagine a little box again?)
3. End of camming when we where told to upgrade computers ( tech improves)
4. End of camming when that model held that first 1$ for 15 mins gold show, NO ENCITIVES except "I will flash you at 100 goldbb" (now we are tossing vids with a 15v min countdown starting over for a lot of models)

I haven't really had any negative effects not changing?

:)

there has been so many drama fest about the world of change .. change is our future.. its going to happen.

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justanothercamgirl
02-05-2014, 03:28 PM
Can we not talk about negative stuff in The Streamate thread? Can you go post that in Camming Sucks Right Now or something so people that don't want to focus on negativity don't have to read it? I'd hate to have to give up this thread. It used to be a positive and informative one.

I've have actually found this thread very informative.

In fact, I give kudos to all the camgirls who have been participating in the discussion. Everyone was been respectful to each other and the points that each girl has brought the the table.

This discussion could of turned into a HUGE flame war -- but it didn't because all these lovely ladies rock at actively listening to each other.

If *that* isn't a positive outcome in this thread (or ANY thread on StripperWeb) then I truly don't know what is. ;)

SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
02-05-2014, 04:08 PM
Yes, this thread has been extremely informative. It has definitely opened my eyes to a few new ideas about things that originally were looked at as negative. I don't think it should be in "camming sucks right now", because frankly the main girl who is doing the $0 GS lately has been banking, so clearly it doesn't suck for some people!!

JaneBurgess
02-05-2014, 04:10 PM
Prepare for the changes. Many of us didn't see changes coming and it kind of threw us for a loop. It's an industry that's always changing. :)



What should one be doing to 'be prepared?'

Doesn't it make more sense to adapt to that which you can't change?

JaneBurgess
02-05-2014, 04:13 PM
This is a thread about Streamate, so it should be about the site good or bad. Being frustrated at tech issues isn't being negative and it shouldn't be treated as such. Performers post experiences and issues on here to share and sometimes to get help.



Can we not talk about negative stuff in The Streamate thread? Can you go post that in Camming Sucks Right Now or something so people that don't want to focus on negativity don't have to read it? I'd hate to have to give up this thread. It used to be a positive and informative one.

I understand tech issue posts, but complaining about what girls are doing that you don't like isn't going to make them stop doing it. You cannot control what other people do, so its kind of a pointless topic to discuss IMO. Its not like they are breaking the rules. And its not like these are new trends.


That being said, the site is still going through upgrades, and I have a feeling they are trying to make it more app-friendly because ipads and tablets are still growing. I also suspect that the next iphone (or the one after that) will be more like a hybrid of the current iphone mixed with a mini tablet. Only much flatter. Which is good because it will make watching streamate on a phone (for the custy) much more desirable IMO.

Lum
02-05-2014, 04:25 PM
When i signed back on tonight i got a message saying payments are slow but they will be sent out on time yadda yadda.. last time this happened i didn't receive a check. anyone else get this warning while signing on?

Marina Starr
02-05-2014, 04:29 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/i1t2dTOhKKo2y_zpsa5f60604.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/i1t2dTOhKKo2y_zpsa5f60604.gif.html)

I've have actually found this thread very informative.

In fact, I give kudos to all the camgirls who have been participating in the discussion. Everyone was been respectful to each other and the points that each girl has brought the the table.

This discussion could of turned into a HUGE flame war -- but it didn't because all these lovely ladies rock at actively listening to each other.

If *that* isn't a positive outcome in this thread (or ANY thread on StripperWeb) then I truly don't know what is. ;)

Marina Starr
02-05-2014, 04:34 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/tumblr_mkt2h1V9Uo1r0ffxro1_500_zps4b912e76.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/tumblr_mkt2h1V9Uo1r0ffxro1_500_zps4b912e76.gif.htm l)

0$ Gold shows are a new thing, which is what sparked the discussion. Why not discuss trends on SM? Giving away 30 videos for a 2$ buy in is relatively new on SM.

And if people want to discuss bad business practices on SM...let them? No one is forcing you to read the discussion in depth. It seems silly to expect other people stop posting about what they are concerned with about SM so the thread can remain "positive" in your eyes.

lifeinluxe
02-05-2014, 04:51 PM
When i signed back on tonight i got a message saying payments are slow but they will be sent out on time yadda yadda.. last time this happened i didn't receive a check. anyone else get this warning while signing on?

Just got the same message. I have seen it once before but my check arrived as expected then so I'm hoping for the same this time too.
Alls I know is...

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GlamourRouge
02-05-2014, 07:01 PM
Streamate now works way better now in my Ipad, it was impossible to watch a stream before, now the image is really fluent and the interface looks really nice. It´s great because so many people uses their phones/tablets to watch porn...

Yep. Called it.

GlamourRouge
02-05-2014, 07:47 PM
0$ Gold shows are a new thing, which is what sparked the discussion. Why not discuss trends on SM? Giving away 30 videos for a 2$ buy in is relatively new on SM.

And if people want to discuss bad business practices on SM...let them? No one is forcing you to read the discussion in depth. It seems silly to expect other people stop posting about what they are concerned with about SM so the thread can remain "positive" in your eyes.

I have seen $0 gold shows for like over a year now. If by a ~*thing*~ you mean the same 4 KGB models you guys all comment on all the time, then maybe. But I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with like the same 4 girls. I always thought that KGB obsession was a little weird. Maybe good studio marketing on their part. They make the same money as any of the other girls in the top 2 rows. But $0 isn't new. Even SarahTime wrote about how she did them last year.

temptingmodel
02-05-2014, 07:52 PM
no ITS NOT bc your leading them off sm, sometimes they send in someone to see what you are giving away. There was a announcement that random checks would be made bc girls where , still are (idgaf) making captions in the clip to Skype them , follow them on twitter etc BC in the beginning this was overlooked, then models complained
i don't offer videos but i thought if i did would it be ok to water mark them with my twitter and other things? i get paranoid i would get busted.

The is the rule and then there is the rule over that rule. Which rule is right? We never know

Ms.Lacey
02-05-2014, 07:54 PM
Ive also seen it a while ago by a non-KGB model some months ago. I agree we can discuss what some believe is 'bad business' Im just wondering how many that disagree will be the ones weeks from now doing them :shocking:

GlamourRouge
02-05-2014, 07:56 PM
Ive also seen it a while ago by a non-KGB model some months ago. I agree we can discuss what some believe is 'bad business' Im just wondering how many that disagree will be the ones weeks from now doing them :shocking:

Lol yep. I always see that from SW girls. Its funny.

temptingmodel
02-05-2014, 07:57 PM
I would say if models feel like KGB gets more hits, go with KGB. Those models still have to work their asses off to keep placement.
I have seen $0 gold shows for like over a year now. If by a ~*thing*~ you mean the same 4 KGB models you guys all comment on all the time, then maybe. But I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with like the same 4 girls. I always thought that KGB obsession was a little weird. Maybe good studio marketing on their part. They make the same money as any of the other girls in the top 2 rows. But $0 isn't new. Even SarahTime wrote about how she did them last year.

^^ very true, the only thing that is new is the check box for explicit?

temptingmodel
02-05-2014, 07:59 PM
prb the same ones that jumped down my shit for doing 1$ ;)
Ive also seen it a while ago by a non-KGB model some months ago. I agree we can discuss what some believe is 'bad business' Im just wondering how many that disagree will be the ones weeks from now doing them :shocking: and Oh my @ your siggy lol gasoline?

GlamourRouge
02-05-2014, 08:03 PM
I would say if models feel like KGB gets more hits, go with KGB. Those models still have to work their asses off to keep placement.

^^ very true, the only thing that is new is the check box for explicit?

I think a lot of people don't realize that KGB also has models with placement on like page 2. They just only seem to promote ones that do well, that would do well without KGB as their studio.

Charlotteslut
02-05-2014, 08:17 PM
I have seen $0 gold shows for like over a year now. If by a ~*thing*~ you mean the same 4 KGB models you guys all comment on all the time, then maybe. But I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with like the same 4 girls. I always thought that KGB obsession was a little weird. Maybe good studio marketing on their part. They make the same money as any of the other girls in the top 2 rows. But $0 isn't new. Even SarahTime wrote about how she did them last year.

Ok, well then they are getting more visibility now? I was going by what people were saying earlier in this thread. Also, I don't really see the kgb obsession thing you are talking about? I think they were mentioned as examples because they are the ones doing them, but what people were speculating on was potential consequences of this and pricing trends for everyone.

Like when I was talking about super cheap gold shows with low buy in and tons of videos, I wasn't thinking of KGB models at all. I'm talking about when you see a bunch of mid-range models doing a lot for very, very little.

My main point was to let people discuss whatever they like as long as it's relevant to SM.

JaneBurgess
02-05-2014, 08:21 PM
What do KGB performers have to do with this? Did I miss the part that mentioned them or is that just assumptions?

Ms.Lacey
02-05-2014, 08:30 PM
Its a fact that the majority of $0 buy-ins are run my KGB models. This wouldn't be a big discuss if it wasn't for popular models (KGB) doing them. Which is why most girls didn't know about them until they started running them because it was said that models have been running these type of shows for a while.

SarahTime
02-05-2014, 08:36 PM
I have seen $0 gold shows for like over a year now. If by a ~*thing*~ you mean the same 4 KGB models you guys all comment on all the time, then maybe. But I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with like the same 4 girls. I always thought that KGB obsession was a little weird. Maybe good studio marketing on their part. They make the same money as any of the other girls in the top 2 rows. But $0 isn't new. Even SarahTime wrote about how she did them last year.

I don't know who anyone else was speaking of or viewing regarding the $0 shows but the ones I saw were NOT KGB studio models. So, it's not like a studio thing.

I haven't seen that many KGB studio model complaints other than some thinking they get better placement somehow, which has been disproven by the model who purposely signed up under them to try and get better placement.

Maybe I'm missing something... Lol wouldn't be the first time.

GlamourRouge
02-05-2014, 08:37 PM
Its a fact that the majority of $0 buy-ins are run my KGB models. This wouldn't be a big discuss if it wasn't for popular models (KGB) doing them. Which is why most girls didn't know about them until they started running them because it was said that models have been running these type of shows for a while.

This exactly. Non-KGB girls have been doing $0 gold show buy-ins for over a year, and LOTS of them. Now KGB girls started doing them (like the same 4 girls), and everyone is in an uproar.

Nothing seems to be an ~*issue*~ for people unless the same 4 KGB models do it. Then everyone has an outrage when its only like the same 4 people doing whatever people are outraged about. Its actually kind of funny. But I don't get how or why that happens.

temptingmodel
02-05-2014, 08:40 PM
they are always the ones under the microscope , don't ask why. (its a first page thing I think)
Every model has to earn their placement . shhesh some of the top models have been off and on since the beginning of time w sm. IMO they earned it, I mean sheesh
Before this is was another I will leave unnamed.

People love to creep cams and become emotional bc ppl are doing certain shows.

People love to come in other performers rooms and trash models NOT knowing that we know each other. Many people usually run from "work" when done. What is the point of logging off if a model is sitting in front of her comp? Log off and go home so to speak if there is no other work to do on the computer. Common sense to me


What do KGB performers have to do with this? Did I miss the part that mentioned them or is that just assumptions?

Holly_xoxo
02-05-2014, 08:48 PM
How did our discussion of the pros and cons of 0 Gold Shows turn in to something about studio performers? I'm confused.
That's not new though. I'm often confused Lol

temptingmodel
02-05-2014, 08:50 PM
^^^^ Bc we are a bunch of women LOL

look at the audience.. loves drama.. lifetimeafterdark stripperweb version :D

Marina Starr
02-05-2014, 08:52 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/Confused-Flamboyant-Black-Man-Just-Cant-Right-Now_zpsa53698e9.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/Confused-Flamboyant-Black-Man-Just-Cant-Right-Now_zpsa53698e9.gif.html)

How did our discussion of the pros and cons of 0 Gold Shows turn in to something about studio performers? I'm confused.
That's not new though. I'm often confused Lol

Charlotteslut
02-05-2014, 08:53 PM
I actually didn't know that girls had been running 0$ GS for a whole year. I only perv on a few girls but they are pvt based mainly.

I'm learning things this evening! :D

Marina Starr
02-05-2014, 08:55 PM
I didn't even know $0 GS existed! I'm gonna stick with my fetish and novelty acts for Pvt and Exclusive only, please!

I actually didn't know that girls had been running 0$ GS for a whole year. I only perv on a few girls but they are pvt based mainly.

I'm learning things this evening! :D

SarahTime
02-05-2014, 08:56 PM
I actually didn't know that girls had been running 0$ GS for a whole year. I only perv on a few girls but they are pvt based mainly.

I'm learning things this evening! :D

Well we have always been able to do $0 shows I believe, it's the explicit part that is new-ish. It used to "explicitly state" lol if you tried to do a $0 show that it could only be non explicit (topless only basically). I noticed it when they first added it and tried it out for a grand total of 3 shows (only got paid for 2 thanks sm lol) and quickly realized while it was fast cash it was a bad route. I want to say it was around like... Late spring early summer 2013 that they added it.

temptingmodel
02-05-2014, 09:13 PM
when I saw Sarah doing it, I went to Sarah.
Its so much easier to ask the model than talk about the model. It might be uncomfy but its the only way to know why ppl do what they do. Then figure out if you want to the same , pros, cons...

when you approach a model they don't feel like they are being talked about and there becomes a certain line of communication now open. Such as the ice has been broken and we can chat.
welcome to highschool , the simple life lol

Well we have always been able to do $0 shows I believe, it's the explicit part that is new-ish. It used to "explicitly state" lol if you tried to do a $0 show that it could only be non explicit (topless only basically). I noticed it when they first added it and tried it out for a grand total of 3 shows (only got paid for 2 thanks sm lol) and quickly realized while it was fast cash it was a bad route. I want to say it was around like... Late spring early summer 2013 that they added it.

Marina Starr
02-05-2014, 09:17 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/tumblr_mhd115HgZA1rxevt4o1_500_zpsa27267b5.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/tumblr_mhd115HgZA1rxevt4o1_500_zpsa27267b5.gif.htm l)


Its so much easier to ask the model than talk about the model.

JaneBurgess
02-05-2014, 09:25 PM
I honestly didn't know what you were talking about with $0 Gold shows so I went and looked. It's basically a show where the performers set the goal, but don't set an amount that you have to pay to join per person. So customers are tipping whatever they want to view the show.

temptingmodel
02-05-2014, 09:31 PM
The goal is to hit goal. ding ding JANE HIT IT, well damn LOL

basically take what you can get for the show , either do it for goal what was raised
I honestly didn't know what you were talking about with $0 Gold shows so I went and looked. It's basically a show where the performers set the goal, but don't set an amount that you have to pay to join per person. So customers are tipping whatever they want to view the show.

I dont think it will go mfc style.. the member has to enter a CC to enter the show bc it is masked making it easier to make money VS MFC where they JUST log on and watch IF this where to become a trend.
Its hella more work for 35%

Charlotteslut
02-05-2014, 09:38 PM
Well we have always been able to do $0 shows I believe, it's the explicit part that is new-ish. It used to "explicitly state" lol if you tried to do a $0 show that it could only be non explicit (topless only basically). I noticed it when they first added it and tried it out for a grand total of 3 shows (only got paid for 2 thanks sm lol) and quickly realized while it was fast cash it was a bad route. I want to say it was around like... Late spring early summer 2013 that they added it.

Ok, that makes sense. So explicit $0 gold shows ARE new. You can't really say girls have been running these $0 GS for a year if those shows were basically an extension of free chat with more tipping and these shows are hardcore action.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-05-2014, 09:55 PM
Ok, that makes sense. So explicit $0 gold shows ARE new. You can't really say girls have been running these $0 GS for a year if those shows were basically an extension of free chat with more tipping and these shows are hardcore action.

This is what I thought when people kept posting that it's not new. But it seems like it is since the cammer is doing what they want and keeping their money. Unlike before.

Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime
Well we have always been able to do $0 shows I believe, it's the explicit part that is new-ish. It used to "explicitly state" lol if you tried to do a $0 show that it could only be non explicit (topless only basically). I noticed it when they first added it and tried it out for a grand total of 3 shows (only got paid for 2 thanks sm lol) and quickly realized while it was fast cash it was a bad route. I want to say it was around like... Late spring early summer 2013 that they added it.

GlamourRouge
02-05-2014, 10:02 PM
How did our discussion of the pros and cons of 0 Gold Shows turn in to something about studio performers? I'm confused.
That's not new though. I'm often confused Lol

Because those are the ones who just started doing $0 buy-in gold shows. And before that, apparently no one knew they existed til they watched those same 4 KGB girls doing them as of 2014.

GlamourRouge
02-05-2014, 10:03 PM
Ok, that makes sense. So explicit $0 gold shows ARE new. You can't really say girls have been running these $0 GS for a year if those shows were basically an extension of free chat with more tipping and these shows are hardcore action.

They aren't new, girls have still been doing them forever. Even the explicit box has been around since like October. But girls always did explicit shows anyway unless it was a TV gold show (and then it wouldn't be a $0 buy-in so that is irrelevant).

JaneBurgess
02-05-2014, 10:31 PM
It's pretty similar to regular Gold shows, so not sure what the big deal is. Both are shows with goals that you're trying to hit, both are a hustle and the only difference is the rate per person. Some performers said customers will pay more if you allow them to pick the rate. Different things work for different performers.




The goal is to hit goal. ding ding JANE HIT IT, well damn LOL

basically take what you can get for the show , either do it for goal what was raised

I dont think it will go mfc style.. the member has to enter a CC to enter the show bc it is masked making it easier to make money VS MFC where they JUST log on and watch IF this where to become a trend.
Its hella more work for 35%

Snowy0Star
02-05-2014, 10:43 PM
It's pretty similar to regular Gold shows, so not sure what the big deal is. Both are shows with goals that you're trying to hit, both are a hustle and the only difference is the rate per person. Some performers said customers will pay more if you allow them to pick the rate. Different things work for different performers.

IMO that's how $1 gold shows are run anyway u can't get them unless you get a few guys throwing down alot ur not gonna get 200-300 ppl pitching in a dollar so honestly i don't even understand the point of $0 gold shows but i don't do them so maybe i shouldn't even have an opinion on it

temptingmodel
02-05-2014, 11:03 PM
It's pretty similar to regular Gold shows, so not sure what the big deal is. Both are shows with goals that you're trying to hit, both are a hustle and the only difference is the rate per person. Some performers said customers will pay more if you allow them to pick the rate. Different things work for different performers.

yes ,finding a hustle , money makers will find it/ has a serious fan base , yes.

I don't see this being the norm.... 35% is not worth it. just saying