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aqua
03-13-2014, 08:33 PM
Oh, man. This rate analysis chart gives me nothing more than a PURE CAMGIRL LADYBONER, and honestly makes me fall in love with SM all over again. That said, I think it's not entirely scientific due to private and excl. having an effect on each other (ex: the higher my private rate, the more custies choose exclusive if the two are close enough together in $$ amount) so that could make it seem like charging a certain amount is less profitable when in reality a certain combination is still a winning one per hour.

That said, well done, Streamate. This is FUCKING AWESOME and definitely overdue.

Snowy0Star
03-13-2014, 08:36 PM
imy encoder keeps switching to drop frame, i dont know why this is happeneing and its costing me money big time.

Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:14 : Session Started
Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:15 : Video Encoding Started
Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:15 : Audio Encoding Started
Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:19 : Auto Adjust : Video bitrate set to 400 Kbps
Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:19 : AutoAdjust: Video Bitrate required for current available upstream bandwidth is less than Minimum Video Bitrate value.
Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:19 : AutoAdjust: Switching to frame drop.
Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:19 : Auto Adjust: Drop Frame Command sent for stream o/9976966/show_90098797 being published to server rtmp://fcs85-1.streamate.com/naiad/live55
Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:35 : Auto Adjust: Stop Drop Frame Command sent for stream o/9976966/show_90098797 being published to server rtmp://fcs85-1.streamate.com/naiad/live55
Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:41 : AutoAdjust: Video Bitrate required for current available upstream bandwidth is less than Minimum Video Bitrate value.
Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:41 : AutoAdjust: Switching to frame drop.
Thu Mar 13 2014 22:29:41 : Auto Adjust: Drop Frame Command sent for stream o/9976966/show_90098797 being published to server rtmp://fcs85-1.streamate.com/naiad/live55

that happens to me all the time because my modem cant handle my new higher net plan my bandwidth will bottleneck and buffer and ppl will see a black window on the site when that happens until it re-stabilizes eventually it does because i rarely D/C. if ur dropping ur connection off the site then that means it wasn't able to re-stabilize. have u gone on speedtest.net and test ur net speed?

Snowy0Star
03-13-2014, 08:37 PM
i have turbo internet, my internet is not the problem. i have an i7 computer and ive already restared like 3 times

do u have ur own modem or rent from ur ISP? what kind of modem is it ? u may have the same issue with ur bandwidth bottlenecking like i do

Angelfaced
03-13-2014, 08:42 PM
ive checked speedtest as well im getting like a 28 dl and a 4.8-5.2 ul. ive lost so much money this week its unreal. i have time wanrer and yes i rent the modem.

Angelfaced
03-13-2014, 08:44 PM
it might have to do with my settings and the fact im using 3.2 i just downlaoded the other one and have been playing aroung with the settings. omg this is scary im paying alot of money for internet right below business class, this shouldnt be happening

RaeRae
03-13-2014, 08:50 PM
Are you using wifi or are you hardwired into your router/modem? As sometimes, wireless can get interference that otherwise isn't there at other times.

Angelfaced
03-13-2014, 08:54 PM
im using a cable.. its not doing it anymore now that im using 3.1 i hope this stops it.

tropo
03-13-2014, 09:06 PM
On the very first screen when you log in, look to the right of your photo. Look below your rating and hearts, below country, geoblock, and phone numbers. You should see "My show prices." It should show your premium rate, and then your exclusive rate. Right underneath that, you should see "Block sessions enabled/disabled" with the option to "edit." If you click "edit," you will get a screen allowing you to choose which block sessions you offer. HTH!

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Yes, I saw where it was supposed to be in the user manual, but it's just not there. I'm not too worried as I don't think I would use that feature anyway. As Euaici said a few posts back, it's probably not enabled because I'm streaming from Thailand.

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AliceFun
03-13-2014, 09:42 PM
^^^ You bet that is the reason, sorry!

Mare
03-14-2014, 05:33 AM
Ok so i've never used sm and finally decided to give it a try, despite the fact that they took MONTHS to approve me and I had to write them multiple emails before they decided to.
Because they don't have direct deposit (insert angry face here), I signed up for them to fed-ex my check to me directly. I received an email stating that they weren't going to approve my payment option due to my proximity to where they mail out their checks from and, as such, they want me to use regular mail... which isn't an option presently because there has been rampant mail theft in my area recently. payoneer has been super difficult for me to deal with in the past, so i want to avoid that. should I email them back and tell them checks by mail aren't an option? I'm so damn frustrated at this point. I'm all about the P.O.box option too. Or just know that it usually comes on monday and to be standing there waiting to pick it up as soon as they drop it off!!! But if it took sm that long to approve don't tell them no. Just jump on it. :)

caramelDip
03-14-2014, 08:21 AM
Dear Streamate, if you're going to put me in the middle of page one at least send some traffic my way
Lol Da fuq.

kittykrane
03-14-2014, 10:14 AM
horrendous today..and it appears my sweet spot is $4.99/$5.99 according to the rate analysis. I couldn't even get that. What is going on with SM?!!! ON a funny note, a friend saw a pop up of me while he was watching porn..he knew I did this though.

temptingmodel
03-14-2014, 10:17 AM
horrendous today..and it appears my sweet spot is $4.99/$5.99 according to the rate analysis. I couldn't even get that. What is going on with SM?!!! ON a funny note, a friend saw a pop up of me while he was watching porn..he knew I did this though.
:O my very first boyfriend has been all over my Facebook.. 8th grade mmkay.. He saw my twitter. That is funny when they react or tell us. Im always asking "was it decent" lol I always have to remember I am on the pop ups

AliceFun
03-14-2014, 11:04 AM
I am traumatized, worked saturday after cut time, took sunday off then worked all week days this week & all i got was peanuts $$, not even a decent shift. Fuck You SM whatever u doing there, i am in tears, my blood pressure was high this morning after another shitty shift, i felt my blood pulse in my head/ ear when trying to sleep, i had to take an aspirin and pain killer just to fall asleep, my body hurts, my mind is all over the place & my soul is ravished. Yeah, not cool!

kittykrane
03-14-2014, 11:11 AM
I am traumatized, worked saturday after cut time, took sunday off then worked all week days this week & all i got was peanuts $$, not even a decent shift. Fuck You SM whatever u doing there, i am in tears, my blood pressure was high this morning after another shitty shift, i felt my blood pulse in my head/ ear when trying to sleep, i had to take an aspirin and pain killer just to fall asleep, my body hurts, my mind is all over the place & my soul is ravished. Yeah, not cool!


I had to do nothing but gold shows and I took tempting's advice and did short timers. didn't bank on any of them but they kept me out of free chat. I am usually b2b exclusives...this new trend SUCKS but since this isn't my main source of income I can deal with it, but I don't have to like it!

anonymous camgirl
03-14-2014, 12:23 PM
Now imagine you live like that for 11 yrs straight ..7 days a week.. and then ur talking about me!!...lol.... soulcrushers i call them!!


I am traumatized, worked saturday after cut time, took sunday off then worked all week days this week & all i got was peanuts $$, not even a decent shift. Fuck You SM whatever u doing there, i am in tears, my blood pressure was high this morning after another shitty shift, i felt my blood pulse in my head/ ear when trying to sleep, i had to take an aspirin and pain killer just to fall asleep, my body hurts, my mind is all over the place & my soul is ravished. Yeah, not cool!

AliceFun
03-14-2014, 12:48 PM
^^^ I do live like this for long time love, i know what it means, sometimes is better but most times is hard! Not sure how long i can keep going tho... lord help us!

ETA: before i got my money today my fridge was empty, i wanted to unplug it but there were few eggs in there & a jar with mustard, ketchup & one onion. Then i went to grocery shop & got some food, sweets ( i needed sugar! sugar! sugar!) & coffee, i just ate, feels better, for the last 2 days we barely ate here. I have to always portion the money wisely & never know how much i am going to make or if i make payout. When i read about people making big money i can only feel helpless, i am honest, it hurts when u just not able to provide more, i am not envious but sad i cant do better. In fact it would feel better if i had a man to bring money at home, 2 salaries help a lot, men earn more normally, when u pay everything from just a salary things are more difficult, i mean there is a bill for electricity, a bill for internet, phone, etc, when two people bring money at home the bills are slightly the same same but salary is double, u manage things better.

euaici
03-14-2014, 01:50 PM
Alice, I think the big issue right now is the internet. There are several sites I just can't access these days, and it fits with what happened some time ago when there were some internet problems at the macro level. My provider really tried, they came, even changed some equipment, but I think it's bigger than them. All that weirdly bad weather all over the US must have affected things, and both our internet is influenced and, of course, that of our custies.

Of course the freeloaders will come and beg even if ur image is not perfect, but the people willing to pay will no, an also they will not like to be disconnected and such.


I can't work more than one site at the time right now, and it's really really bad because that means one third of my usual potential - my PC can easily take 3 hd sites at one time, just my net cannot right now. And surely the custies from even that site are fewer because of this..and it's maddening not to be able to do anything about it.

SoloDesire
03-14-2014, 02:30 PM
Stay positive ladies...negativity breeds more negative things. I noticed my earnings increase when I was able to stay positive...it's a domino effect. Let's keep this thread on track ;)

temptingmodel
03-14-2014, 02:56 PM
http://collegecandy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/tumblr_mgj65tas3g1rvuf1po1_500.gif



;)

GlamourRouge
03-14-2014, 03:28 PM
Stay positive ladies...negativity breeds more negative things. I noticed my earnings increase when I was able to stay positive...it's a domino effect. Let's keep this thread on track ;)

My mantra!



I'm liking the new feature. I bet they will come out with a bunch more as time goes on.

Marina Starr
03-14-2014, 03:37 PM
Now I'm all wet! Did it rain, girl?!
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/Big-Ang-anim_zpsf1da2832.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/Big-Ang-anim_zpsf1da2832.gif.html)

http://collegecandy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/tumblr_mgj65tas3g1rvuf1po1_500.gif



;)

JaneBurgess
03-14-2014, 04:40 PM
Don't feel helpless Alice. A lot of people are having hard times on cam sites the last year or so. I have read people making big money and some of them do shit they aren't even supposed to do. Before anyone bitches I didn't say everyone, I said some of them. Have you tried split camming? That helps sometimes to fill the gap.

Hang in there because it will get better. There are always periods when it's slow, but then it gets crazy busy. This week is spring break for a lot of people, so they aren't online looking for shows.



^^^ I do live like this for long time love, i know what it means, sometimes is better but most times is hard! Not sure how long i can keep going tho... lord help us!

ETA: before i got my money today my fridge was empty, i wanted to unplug it but there were few eggs in there & a jar with mustard, ketchup & one onion. Then i went to grocery shop & got some food, sweets ( i needed sugar! sugar! sugar!) & coffee, i just ate, feels better, for the last 2 days we barely ate here. I have to always portion the money wisely & never know how much i am going to make or if i make payout. When i read about people making big money i can only feel helpless, i am honest, it hurts when u just not able to provide more, i am not envious but sad i cant do better. In fact it would feel better if i had a man to bring money at home, 2 salaries help a lot, men earn more normally, when u pay everything from just a salary things are more difficult, i mean there is a bill for electricity, a bill for internet, phone, etc, when two people bring money at home the bills are slightly the same same but salary is double, u manage things better.

GlamourRouge
03-14-2014, 06:01 PM
^^^ I do live like this for long time love, i know what it means, sometimes is better but most times is hard! Not sure how long i can keep going tho... lord help us!

ETA: before i got my money today my fridge was empty, i wanted to unplug it but there were few eggs in there & a jar with mustard, ketchup & one onion. Then i went to grocery shop & got some food, sweets ( i needed sugar! sugar! sugar!) & coffee, i just ate, feels better, for the last 2 days we barely ate here. I have to always portion the money wisely & never know how much i am going to make or if i make payout. When i read about people making big money i can only feel helpless, i am honest, it hurts when u just not able to provide more, i am not envious but sad i cant do better. In fact it would feel better if i had a man to bring money at home, 2 salaries help a lot, men earn more normally, when u pay everything from just a salary things are more difficult, i mean there is a bill for electricity, a bill for internet, phone, etc, when two people bring money at home the bills are slightly the same same but salary is double, u manage things better.

I would just change your niche until you find one that works. Thats what I continually did my whole first year camming (I started over 3 years ago now) until I came up with the one that works best for me now. Legal and 100% site-approved, which means there's no reason to worry.

There's a lot out there you can do. I'm surprised more people don't take things in creative directions like MFC girls do a lot of the time. MFC hustle definitely works on SM. Or maybe its your internet? That can contribute to lower placement. Certain places have naturally slower internet.

kittykrane
03-15-2014, 06:38 AM
double post oops

kittykrane
03-15-2014, 06:45 AM
I would just change your niche until you find one that works. Thats what I continually did my whole first year camming (I started over 3 years ago now) until I came up with the one that works best for me now. Legal and 100% site-approved, which means there's no reason to worry.

There's a lot out there you can do. I'm surprised more people don't take things in creative directions like MFC girls do a lot of the time. MFC hustle definitely works on SM. Or maybe its your internet? That can contribute to lower placement. Certain places have naturally slower internet.

I'm surprised that SM doesn't change some things and give its models a little more to work with, simple things such as allowing us to post wishlist links, accept offline tips, sell memorabilia, etc.. Then we would have much more freedom to be creative when there are better incentives for us besides dishing out pics and videos for a few bucks.

tropo
03-15-2014, 08:27 AM
I have a question some of you ladies may be able to answer. I've contacted customer support, but I'm not expecting anything back from them any time soon as they take ages to answer questions.

When I'm in premium paid chat I get a lot of people popping in for very short periods of time (perhaps 5, 10, 15 seconds), but then when I check my earnings, they are not listed. I would have expected to see anyone who pops into paid chat will be charged. Are customers able to watch my private shows for a certain period for free? Like a free preview, or are my earnings being skimmed by SM?

On other sites I work on everyone who pops in is charged, no matter how short the time. It all adds up.

What's going on here? Anyone know?

seller317
03-15-2014, 08:34 AM
30 sec free. Tease for the first 30 sec or you wont see a dime!

Nocturnelle
03-15-2014, 08:35 AM
^ Dudes are 30 second peepers. For the first 30 seconds of private chat they aren't being charged. It's annoying, but, yeah. :( If you catch repeat offenders just try and ban them from your room.

tropo
03-15-2014, 08:41 AM
^Really?

Can the guys pop into my private for a free 30 second peep at any time or is that just at the beginning?

Does everyone get a free 30 seconds at any time?

It would have been nice if they included this information in their manual (or did I miss that part?)

seller317
03-15-2014, 08:51 AM
anyone anytime : (

vaporeon
03-15-2014, 08:54 AM
^Really?

Can the guys pop into my private for a free 30 second peep at any time or is that just at the beginning?

Does everyone get a free 30 seconds at any time?

It would have been nice if they included this information in their manual (or did I miss that part?)

It's THEIR first 30 seconds. If you're in private with one person for a bit, you'll likely get a few people popping in to take a peek and then leave before they get charged. I think that's why a lot of models prefer exclusive.

tropo
03-15-2014, 09:12 AM
^ If I get to 31 seconds in, do I get paid for the 1st 30 seconds?.. or does my pay start at 30 seconds in?

Yeah, I get lots of these peepers and I was naively thinking I was getting paid for them because I get paid for them everywhere else that I work.

I have a nice little kitchen Tanita digital timer that will be doing overtime now lol. It'll be my new friend.

Vlodina
03-15-2014, 09:22 AM
If they stay longer than 30 seconds then you get paid for the full time.

seller317
03-15-2014, 09:23 AM
31 sec gives you the full minute amount. If you charge 4.99 then at 31 sec you would get 1.75

tropo
03-15-2014, 09:32 AM
Unfortunately I only get 30%, but thanks for the explanation. I'll have to adjust my program somewhat. A lot of guys have been very happy with me over the last month. I won't be as popular but at least I'll get paid.

Snowy0Star
03-15-2014, 09:36 AM
also dont accept their cam request let the timer go out. and what do u mean u wont be as popular ? OMG ur the worse cam model ever because u dont get naked in 30 blasphemy!

anonymous camgirl
03-15-2014, 09:36 AM
I noticed alot less 30 sec peepers since i started charging 6 bucks per minute.. they are to terrified to get charged.. hahaha.... I still love this rate!! I hope it works out cuz it makes me feel happy and worth my time.

tropo
03-15-2014, 10:22 AM
also dont accept their cam request let the timer go out. and what do u mean u wont be as popular ? OMG ur the worse cam model ever because u dont get naked in 30 blasphemy!

What is your rationale behind that? I was thinking that accepting a cam request would help run the 30 second timer out. You know, talking about how lovely he or his dick look etc etc.

laurielegs
03-15-2014, 10:32 AM
What is your rationale behind that? I was thinking that accepting a cam request would help run the 30 second timer out. You know, talking about how lovely he or his dick look etc etc.

Those types get off on you watching them. They are usually going to leave before the 30 second mark, but if they find out you'll accept their cam for free they will keep coming back and wasting your time.

Use your energy on guys who will pay, not making the broke ones cum for free.

tropo
03-15-2014, 10:45 AM
^^ I suspect you're over thinking things a bit too much. Continually guessing the motives of every customer could take up a lot of energy too...

If he's busy wacking off, he may miss the 30 second mark and you get paid anyway. I did notice when I checked my sales list recently there were several 35 - 40 second privates recorded. That could well have been guys who mistimed their exit. I wouldn't consider a quick hello and accepting a c2c request and making a comment much of an effort and there is a chance he could go longer.

I've always been a high volume cam girl. I have quite a bit of tolerance (for dickheads) and stamina.

Thanks to everyone for this info. I shall put my timer to good use.

SoloDesire
03-15-2014, 10:48 AM
^^ No she's not overthinking. Once you've been in this business for years you start to realize the patterns of freeloaders...and you can't afford to risk it, so being on the defense is safest. You must have a set of rules to protect yourself from the guys who try to take advantage.

kortneykay
03-15-2014, 11:19 AM
I have a way to rid MOST of your 30 sec peepers. GlamourMilf gave me this awesome advice about a month ago and it's been nothing but gold for me. Switch your Exclusive rate with your private rate. I've personally never had a guy come into exclusive as a 30 second peeper. They always stay much longer. I advertise it in my room with my automatic messages and I let them know that no one can come in and run, or ruin their show with their requests and they can save $2 per min. Also, another perk is if someone does take you premium at your higher rate, it will be worth the 30 second peepers because you're getting paid more anyway. Try this and watch the amount of exclusives you get go up, and the 30 sec peepers go down.

Glamourmilf
03-15-2014, 11:26 AM
^^ Your welcome! So glad it's still working for You. I'm loving it too, because they do stay longer in exclusive, and those that do go premium, pay me anyway, because I'm now more cautious about their motives, so I wait until the 30 seconds are up to even stand. I just ask them their name, ask how my lighting is for them, sound, etc.
I was just too burnt out on roleplay guys not listening to me, and just zapping me into premium, then having all of those peepers ruin the vibe of my show.
now its a win-win for everyone.

Rosemary Rabbit
03-15-2014, 11:31 AM
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SoloDesire
03-15-2014, 11:47 AM
I agree with the 30 sec peepers not bothering me. Of course I always stall with the first guy in my show and never show anything until that time is up...but the guys that pop in during my show go ignored and I focus on just doing a good show. If I see the same person popping in and out I block them, but the others go unnoticed...maybe they'll get enticed and come back for a full show sometime (and yes, sometimes they do!).

I disliked having my exclusive price lower because I lost out on those more expensive exclusive rates for specific things. Since I only do c2c and fetishes in exclusive, I make a lot more from asking for more for that. I also get multiple users who stay in my private shows equaling more money for me. I agree that should be handled the way you want...just don't get taken advantage of by giving guys what they ask for as soon as they pop in to your paid chat...make them wait for it and pay for it!

Charlotteslut
03-15-2014, 12:20 PM
I haaate 30 second peepers. And I really don't like group shows. They never understand that it's not a personal show, or they do but try to push your limits. I can be in the best mood ever but being like "no, ____ is in EXCL" a million times or reminding them it's a group show which I always have to do in pvts because they don't read/care, throws me off my mojo :(

But I worry that if I only do EXCL I will be capping my earnings because there's always that chance that 4 guys will jump into pvt, but you can only ever get one guy in EXCL at a time so even with higher rates it's difficult to go beyond a certain hourly.

But I REALLY hate the the peepers and explaining how pvt works, so if I keep getting them I might just do EXCL only. Still trying to figure this out :)

kortneykay
03-15-2014, 12:41 PM
Do what's best for you. I notice personally that I will be in a pvt with a guy for 11 min and 5 guy will pop in without being charged and that bothers me. I prefer 1 on 1 play personally, it's the reason I dislike GS as well. Gotta do what's best for you.

laurielegs
03-15-2014, 01:00 PM
I was mainly referrring to whether to accept and watch their cam and provide feedback comments on their cock in my face before they are paying (which is usually what I see when they send their cam immediately). I'll watch it when they are past the 30 seconds, but I don't click Accept before then.

Personally the peepers don't really get to me lately unless they do it over and over in the same few minutes. Third time is a ban.

I never accept their cam though in that first 30 seconds unless it's a viewer who has spent before.

Marina Starr
03-15-2014, 01:19 PM
I think broke men should not cum! It's a disgrace to sex workers everywhere. They should hold onto their blue balls until they can afford us!
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Use your energy on guys who will pay, not making the broke ones cum for free.