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tropo
03-23-2014, 10:16 AM
@Tropo it's not all about you hun. As a matter of fact I really don't know who you are. So no my post was not about you.

Sorry for thinking that, but considering the comment you made in a reply above I thought it may have been.

Bambola
03-23-2014, 10:17 AM
I didnt recieve my payment in payoneer this friday so strange,anybody happened the same?

kortneykay
03-23-2014, 10:18 AM
I think there's one thing you fail to consider. I don't think there's a black women's site anywhere where all the models charge $1 per minute or less. There are many Asian sites where all the models charge $1 or less and many of these models are very sexy and pretty. Guys can find many very beautiful Asian models all over the Internet for very cheap prices.

Even sites like SM have an Asian room where most of the girls are charging 1.99. (the girls only get 30% of that).

All guys who are interested in Asian models gravitate to these cheap sites. The price of an Asian cam model has been set and it's very difficult to rise above this. 100's of thousands of Asian cam girls have been showing their wares on the Internet for 1.99 or less for over a decade. Asian girls don't vary a lot in proportions. They're all quite similar, so that if one girl (like myself for example) wants to charge more (and I do), it's a tough road. I know this because I do charge more than most Asian models and I cop flak from this so many times per day that I can't count.

Tropo, we can go around in circles all day. What you're failing to realize is that you charge what you want to charge. You don't HAVE to be grouped in with those other Asian girls but you want to so there's nothing left to say. There are several black only cam sites as SM has ebony only white labels as well and a LOT of the women, especially those in studios who are making 20% (and not 30%) are charging low. Do you know that black women have a stigma as well? That we're supposed to be the bottom of the barrel when it comes to beauty standards?

You keep trying to explain yourself and blaming the color of your skin for your lack of confidence to charge higher rates. If all the women started charging higher prices the men don't have a choice to see beautiful women for cheap because they wouldn't have a choice. If you're happy at your rates, be happy, bb. I'm not taking away from that at all, but I just ask you not to use your ethnicity as an excuse for why you can't/won't/shouldn't charge higher rates if you want to. You have a choice. Not every guy into Asian pussy is going to flock to a cheaper site. If guys want a cheap black girl, there is a slew of them. I've heard several time a thin black girl is better than a fat one yet I still get chosen. If you want to stand out, stand out and make your money separately. If you want to be apart of that crab in the barrel of other crabs, be that too.

kortneykay
03-23-2014, 10:19 AM
^^ I don't know if you're directing this at me or not, but it feels like you are, so, just for the record, I don't have confidence issues at all - never have had. Knowing your place and your worth does not mean you're lacking confidence - it's being realistic. Overconfidence is probably the worse of the 2 evils though.

This is a business for me and has paid the bills for a long time. I don't make my decisions on charging based on how confident I'm feeling. I make the decisions by how busy the room is and what I'm making.

Now I really like hearing from the high achievers about how much they make and charge, but please, enough of this "I'm selling myself short" rhetoric. I'm doing ok. As you said, in any business there's the "2 percenters" as you called them. That's life. We're not all superstars, but saying that doesn't mean I'm lacking confidence.

I think she means confidence with pricing and not self.

AliceFun
03-23-2014, 10:30 AM
Well there you go. I can't charge high rates because I'm 32A LOL...

Luckily I don't believe you, or I'd be very depressed. You'd be surprised how many guys like perky, small tits.

Sorry, i think i forgot to mention smallish perky tits are very hot too if attached to a slim body, i talk about proportions, i meant big tits are a great selling point on any body frame but this does not mean smaller tits are not desirable too. It's all about proportions, i am a big ish girl with small ish tits haha, that's why i mentioned big tits cause they could help me a lot lol.

tropo
03-23-2014, 10:33 AM
^^ LOL, I am confident with my pricing. I'm confident that if I charge more I'll make less.

I know, I know - I've got to bite the bullet and give it a long trial to know for sure if I can pull it off or not. I'm just over confident that it won't work, that's the problem here.

tropo
03-23-2014, 10:44 AM
^^LOL. I can make them look quite big close to the cam. I'm only 40kg and 4'11", so they probably look a bit bigger by proportion.

Staples
03-23-2014, 10:54 AM
I keep getting pop up saying I'm not elligable for TV shows because I'm not broadcasting with audio even though I am. People can hear me AND the little audio symbol is showing above my thumbnail on the listing.

Staples
03-23-2014, 11:07 AM
Sorry, i think i forgot to mention smallish perky tits are very hot too if attached to a slim body, i talk about proportions, i meant big tits are a great selling point on any body frame but this does not mean smaller tits are not desirable too. It's all about proportions, i am a big ish girl with small ish tits haha, that's why i mentioned big tits cause they could help me a lot lol.

You do not know how much it bothers me to be a big girl with small boobs lol! I struggle with this all the time.

kortneykay
03-23-2014, 11:13 AM
Lena Dunham has small perky tits and is consider "bigger" as she's really pair shaped but I think they're beautiful and I look forward to seeing them in mainly every episode on "Girls". :)

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
03-23-2014, 11:30 AM
Are you using gmail as your email? There is an tab for promotions. When you are sent this you have to select the link to load your card. Sometimes I forget about my loads because of this. If not using gmail check your spam folder in your chosen application. It may be there. It DOES NOT LOAD AUTOMATICALLY. You have to accept the amount.


I didnt recieve my payment in payoneer this friday so strange,anybody happened the same?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
03-23-2014, 11:35 AM
A bit off topic but whatevs I DO WHAT I WANT here is a lovely interview with Lena Dunham http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/jan/11/lena-dunham-called-fat-hideous-and-i-lived


Lena Dunham has small perky tits and is consider "bigger" as she's really pair shaped but I think they're beautiful and I look forward to seeing them in mainly every episode on "Girls". :)

euaici
03-23-2014, 12:50 PM
I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't speaking on fat and black versus blonde babes. I consider myself to be a fat black brunette babe. I was asking Tropico what ethnicity she considered to be more desirable than everyone else because me being fat and black hasn't stopped me from making top dollars in camming and her being Asian shouldn't either. Just yesterday I made $300 in one hour so ethnicity has nothing to do with it and desirability is subjective and can be faked.

Actually, that was kind of what I wanted to say, sorry if I wasn't clear enough. It was about the general idea that the best paid models on most sites are the kind of bonde-slim-big boobies girls, and while let's say a caucasian brunette can dye her hair and become one, not everybody can. That's why I was giving you as an example, because you do not comply with that "standard" but found the right assets to promote and make the money. :) the wonders of using another language I suppose...

SarahTime
03-23-2014, 01:31 PM
Does anyone know when college basketball/football or whatever the fuck it is will be over?
I want to castrate every coach, every player and feed their balls to monkeys!

Around this time last year was really slow for me, been slowish last couple weeks too. I'm definitely blaming basketball! ;)

Ms.Lacey
03-23-2014, 01:34 PM
College basketball is over April 7th or 8th

Marina Starr
03-23-2014, 01:36 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/new-girl-winston-quotes-1_zps5fcb8688.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/new-girl-winston-quotes-1_zps5fcb8688.gif.html)

College basketball is over April 7th or 8th

anonymous camgirl
03-23-2014, 02:01 PM
For you have sinned??...lol


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/new-girl-winston-quotes-1_zps5fcb8688.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/new-girl-winston-quotes-1_zps5fcb8688.gif.html)

Marina Starr
03-23-2014, 02:25 PM
I'm gonna sin like a virgin!
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/tumblr_mrhck0Cna61ssdhxio1_500_zpsaaccaf21.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/tumblr_mrhck0Cna61ssdhxio1_500_zpsaaccaf21.gif.htm l)

For you have sinned??...lol

Marina Starr
03-23-2014, 02:52 PM
It will get better as it always does ;D
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/tumblr_m485wpVHsD1ql5yr7o1_400_zps34a14b2e.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/tumblr_m485wpVHsD1ql5yr7o1_400_zps34a14b2e.gif.htm l)

Around this time last year was really slow for me, been slowish last couple weeks too. I'm definitely blaming basketball! ;)

JaneBurgess
03-23-2014, 08:04 PM
I started charging more on another cam site and I am getting a lot more shows then before. Charging more doesn't always mean you will make less.



^^ LOL, I am confident with my pricing. I'm confident that if I charge more I'll make less.

I know, I know - I've got to bite the bullet and give it a long trial to know for sure if I can pull it off or not. I'm just over confident that it won't work, that's the problem here.

temptingmodel
03-23-2014, 08:18 PM
I was scared to charge more for 4 years , its a mindset thing IMO

I did it and my men are not flinching at privates and if they do, its a small group
I started charging more on another cam site and I am getting a lot more shows then before. Charging more doesn't always mean you will make less.

TheOutlier
03-24-2014, 02:02 AM
36929 Sports...

Is there a way to link to your SM profile? I've looked around and in the manual, can't seem to find it? :-[

RaeRae
03-24-2014, 02:39 AM
You use your cammodels link for that. So your username.cammodels.com will take them to your profile if you are offline and both your feed+profile if you are online :)

Glamourmilf
03-24-2014, 04:46 AM
Just a comment regarding rates on SM. I posted a while back that I reversed my rates, -i.e., exclusive rates being lower than premium, and how great I was doing.
When I read on here that a lot of custies can't go exclusive unless they meet certain requirements (has to do with spending), I change it.
OMG! The peepers are, once again, driving me batty! I have over 10 at least for every Prvt. I go into!:shoot:
I'm at a loss now on what to do, because I don't want to lose potential custies that can't go exclusive, yet I'm sooo aggravated after just an hr, of this constantly happening, that I just log off.
Any ideas? thanks.
Oh, P.S. I get mostly repeats anyway, so sadly, it's not like I'm converting a ton of new screen names.

luvnrockets
03-24-2014, 05:00 AM
Do you girls feel that you do better if your rates end with .99? I'm currently at .09 and .64 and wondering if I should raise them more quickly to get (at least one of them) to .99.

lol or is it just me?

Snowy0Star
03-24-2014, 05:13 AM
Do you girls feel that you do better if your rates end with .99? I'm currently at .09 and .64 and wondering if I should raise them more quickly to get (at least one of them) to .99.

lol or is it just me?

i always have my rates at .24 . 49 .74 or .99 basically in 25 cents increments

Marina Starr
03-24-2014, 06:15 AM
I hear you on how annoying peepers can be but there's only so much energy and attention you have in one day to focus on peepers! I'd just focus on the custies that take you private. They're the only ones that truly matter. Though I do ban like crazy when I'm just doing chatting privates. They're the best ;D

Just a comment regarding rates on SM. I posted a while back that I reversed my rates, -i.e., exclusive rates being lower than premium, and how great I was doing.
When I read on here that a lot of custies can't go exclusive unless they meet certain requirements (has to do with spending), I change it.
OMG! The peepers are, once again, driving me batty! I have over 10 at least for every Prvt. I go into!:shoot:
I'm at a loss now on what to do, because I don't want to lose potential custies that can't go exclusive, yet I'm sooo aggravated after just an hr, of this constantly happening, that I just log off.
Any ideas? thanks.
Oh, P.S. I get mostly repeats anyway, so sadly, it's not like I'm converting a ton of new screen names.

TheBrownFox
03-24-2014, 06:35 AM
Do you girls feel that you do better if your rates end with .99? I'm currently at .09 and .64 and wondering if I should raise them more quickly to get (at least one of them) to .99.

lol or is it just me?
I can't remember which old thread it was in, but I remember that the person formerly known as PrincessJenny on here (who's in charge of daily pay) once posted that it's better when models have .99 at the end of their rates. For example, $4.99 instead of $5.00. I guess because, to the members, it just looks/sounds like the better deal, and because that's how items are often priced in stores (Nintendo DS game priced at $29.99 instead of $30).

I'm not sure what other ladies on here thought about that theory. It actually made sense to me though.

AliceFun
03-24-2014, 07:30 AM
It's all true, the .99 sell better than the next number with .00 at the end, i worked retail & that's how they priced items, it looks cheaper simply, it's a psychological thing. Not sure about the odd numbers like .67 or .72 or .38, i can say visually they dont look good imo.

anonymous camgirl
03-24-2014, 07:35 AM
Always ending in .99 or .49.. but I don't do much better if I am ending things in .49... no one thinks of it as in almost rounding up to the next dollar, that is why. Almost every single business out there sells things in .99 why question it?? it works!!

kortneykay
03-24-2014, 07:50 AM
I def think the $0.99 works but generally I think guys/people go for the cheaper amount no matter what it is. I've priced my shows at 7.99/6.64 and was busy, and my prices now are $7.99/6.99 and they still go for exl so it's really whatever's the cheapest price which is obviously why people generally go pvt over exl. Because my prices are switched around they always go exl. In my mind I'm still getting what I want because I used to be $5.99/7.99 when I first started.

tropo
03-24-2014, 09:01 AM
Always ending in .99 or .49.. but I don't do much better if I am ending things in .49... no one thinks of it as in almost rounding up to the next dollar, that is why. Almost every single business out there sells things in .99 why question it?? it works!!

That was a decision I made recently. I was at .49, but figured I may as well increase it to .99 because psychologically it's the same for most customers (I think) i.e. 2.49 is equal to 2.99, 3.49 is equal to 3.99.

I would never bother with .24, .79 etc.

Bambola
03-24-2014, 10:16 AM
Hi everybody i have one question,what you do if one costumer come to private and directly say : GAPE i start to doing my striptease,,,etc and he continue saying: GAPE.... is better banner him,or if i banned in private he can put me bad ratings?I told him i cant do gape directly what u think im a robotżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżżż and he leave private,but i see....there are many guys in this way.....they are more than stupids i cant believe there are guys like this....

Renton
03-24-2014, 10:24 AM
Ignore him and keep doing your thing, if you don't let it bother you afterwards anyway. If you feel bad afterwards, just block him. It's not worth it. Me, I just continue what I'm doing but extra slow and if they leave me a bad rating I ask support to remove it. They always do :)

temptingmodel
03-24-2014, 10:24 AM
everyone handles privates differently, open private, I do what I want to do when barking barking orders at me.
It is simply going to slow down the show
He is wanting you to do this before his clock starts ticking for time

^^^ Dumbasses like this think they are charged to rate.. usually no rating will be left.

Exclusive.. They get my full attention.

Renton was posting at the same time
I guess some do think alike about $$

Bambola
03-24-2014, 10:42 AM
Thanks for the advice girls!! You do rolepley like little daddys girl? I have to perverts aks for that in exclusive but i dont want to do that is desgusting.

Also what you do when you have a slowly day like me today and i earn only 8$ in three hours..... :( ?

Renton
03-24-2014, 10:45 AM
I don't, it's against the rules and I don't wanna get suspended or anything as it's my main site. so not worth it!

I'm having a terribly slow day too, sometimes my first shift is slow like that and when I go back on much later I still make goal :) It can ALWAYS turn around! Keep that in mind, plus it's only Monday, you still have the rest of the week to make up for it if it stays like this all day :)

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
03-24-2014, 10:46 AM
Dont do anything you dont want to. Just smile and dance or ban them if it gets under your skin. Im surprised I havent gotten tags or comments like "She's hard of hearing" Because I just pretend I can't hear them and keep gyrating. When it's slow take a break and then try again.


Thanks for the advice girls!! You do rolepley like little daddys girl? I have to perverts aks for that in exclusive but i dont want to do that is desgusting.

Also what you do when you have a slowly day like me today and i earn only 8$ in three hours..... :( ?

Bambola
03-24-2014, 11:01 AM
I don't, it's against the rules and I don't wanna get suspended or anything as it's my main site. so not worth it!

I'm having a terribly slow day too, sometimes my first shift is slow like that and when I go back on much later I still make goal :) It can ALWAYS turn around! Keep that in mind, plus it's only Monday, you still have the rest of the week to make up for it if it stays like this all day :)


how many hours a day do you work in sm and how long? you only work there,im thinking in try imlive also... i think that I make a few hours i dont have patience and being so new I dont have many regulars yet....

Renton
03-24-2014, 11:04 AM
it depends, I aim for at least 6, sometimes I end up doing 4 or 5. I don't really care as long as I make my weekly goal. When I started though I did at least 8 hours a day, 5 days a week to build up regulars and check out different times to go on. It's always best to work more than one site, it's just something I need to get serious about.

Marina Starr
03-24-2014, 11:12 AM
I think daddy's girl roleplay is against SM's code of conduct. Even if it's not, I don't like the pedophile vibe of that. You don't have to do ANYTHING that makes you uncomfortable. You are first a human being NOT a sexual being.

When I have a terribly slow day, I pray. Lots of praying. Watch something motivating on youtube to get me out of my funk and log back on later.


Thanks for the advice girls!! You do rolepley like little daddys girl? I have to perverts aks for that in exclusive but i dont want to do that is desgusting.

Also what you do when you have a slowly day like me today and i earn only 8$ in three hours..... :( ?

Bambola
03-24-2014, 11:35 AM
I work only two or three hours now,and saturdays six....i think i can start to motivate with something but is difficult because so many assholes i think i can start drink a lot of coffee,i would love it free chat not existed... i didnt know daddys girl is against the rules so many costumers ask for that, awful.

laurielegs
03-24-2014, 11:52 AM
Just a comment regarding rates on SM. I posted a while back that I reversed my rates, -i.e., exclusive rates being lower than premium, and how great I was doing.
When I read on here that a lot of custies can't go exclusive unless they meet certain requirements (has to do with spending), I change it.
OMG! The peepers are, once again, driving me batty! I have over 10 at least for every Prvt. I go into!:shoot:
I'm at a loss now on what to do, because I don't want to lose potential custies that can't go exclusive, yet I'm sooo aggravated after just an hr, of this constantly happening, that I just log off.
Any ideas? thanks.
Oh, P.S. I get mostly repeats anyway, so sadly, it's not like I'm converting a ton of new screen names.

I would say since the peepers are definitely annoying you and you get mostly repeats anyway, price your private price high enough so that it cuts down on the peepers but still low enough so that your regulars will buy. (Maybe put it at whatever your exclusive usually is).

I'd also add - price your exclusive just a bit higher (maybe a dollar) just because I feel they should pay a little more for the privilege of locking out everyone else. :) That way you get the psychological advantage of them paying a bit more and realizing they are getting a privilege.

temptingmodel
03-24-2014, 11:54 AM
Think of free chat as your marketing bc that is what it is for. If you dont have regulars , it can be a hit/miss with no free chat.
I enjoy free chat , not for long, I will log off and come back if someone does not go private.

When your comfortable with regulars and start chatting with them openly others do notice and want the same attention. They will go private.

Sounds you are new, its seriously a game of patience.

Charlotteslut
03-24-2014, 12:49 PM
Does anyone else have the option to delete photos now? It used to say I needed 30 pics, but now I can delete photos even if I only have 2 pics up.

SarahTime
03-24-2014, 12:58 PM
Holy hell is SM updating placement in like a matter of days now or what???

My placement had been lower from barely working for a month, finally I had been working a lot again doing great and it went back up REALLY high. In a matter of two days it went right back down again to where it was before!?!? :(

And I've been making good hourly, getting 5 stars, perfect stream settings..... so frustrating. The only thing I can think of is that I took 3 days in a row off. But why would only 3 days make it go back down that far?

lemonberry
03-24-2014, 12:59 PM
Does anyone else have the option to delete photos now? It used to say I needed 30 pics, but now I can delete photos even if I only have 2 pics up.
Just checked and its still telling me I need 30.

temptingmodel
03-24-2014, 01:01 PM
Does anyone else have the option to delete photos now? It used to say I needed 30 pics, but now I can delete photos even if I only have 2 pics up.

Deleting photos

To delete photos you must have 30 approved photos and 3 approved galleries

I wish lol

temptingmodel
03-24-2014, 01:04 PM
Holy hell is SM updating placement in like a matter of days now or what???

My placement had been lower from barely working for a month, finally I had been working a lot again doing great and it went back up REALLY high. In a matter of two days it went right back down again to where it was before!?!? :(

And I've been making good hourly, getting 5 stars, perfect stream settings..... so frustrating. The only thing I can think of is that I took 3 days in a row off. But why would only 3 days make it go back down that far?
^^^^ I HAVE BEEN HEARING THAT A LOT
I have no clue bc luckily I can cam whenever

bbwchristyminx
03-24-2014, 01:43 PM
Does anyone have any advice on a better rental option? I live in a studio and I cannot be as loud or as wild as I would like because the walls are paper thin and being that I live on the 3rd floor there are people below me. What about renting out a casita (small guest house) in someones back yard, have any of you done that? When I move I am going to miss all utilities being included. lol. :)