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tropo
04-17-2014, 03:05 PM
Also want to point out, if they stay LESS than 3 minutes, they are NOT charged the full block amount, they are only charged the time they are in there but they still get the discounted price!
So don't show anything until 3 minutes has passed during a block show. :)
Thanks so much. I haven't had one yet. I suspect for only 5 or 10% discount I won't get many takers. I've only enabled the 15 and 30 blocks at this stage.
RedAlice
04-17-2014, 03:35 PM
If you really want to try blocks out, maybe offer something in your block exclusives that you wouldn't normally. Make it really really clear it's ONLY for blocks, put it in your profile and talk about it when they ask what you do or what you like. Maybe outfit changes, domming, whatever your ~biggest deal~ but non-vanilla service is. Save a message detailing it & send it out every 15 mins or so.
ie., I like anal and have a realistic DP toy which I love so I'll talk it up often and even use it in BJ shows, but will only offer DP in block exclusives of 15 mins+. That way, it's something quite different to an ordinary exclusive, they're getting something a little bit special with time dedicated just for them.
And I get a guaranteed 15 min session doing something I truly enjoy (less the discount, of course).
lillmizz73
04-17-2014, 05:34 PM
Im new to camming and haven't signed up with any website yet. I was wondering on SM if you you are in free chat... once your gold show goal is achieved....can you kick out the free members and just do the show for the people who contributed gold??? Or do you have to do the show for everyone in the room...even those who didn't contribute gold?
Marina Starr
04-17-2014, 05:38 PM
Once you are in a gold show, only the guys who have contributed get to see the show while the freeloaders can sit in free chat. Be sure to wave at them before you start the show!
Im new to camming and haven't signed up with any website yet. I was wondering on SM if you you are in free chat... once your gold show goal is achieved....can you kick out the free members and just do the show for the people who contributed gold??? Or do you have to do the show for everyone in the room...even those who didn't contribute gold?
For the girls who have been on Streamate for a while, how long did it take you to build up your clientele and make pretty good money (I realize this is relative, let's say $25+ an hour)/achieve your daily goals?
Edit: Also, I've been searching for a good split cam tutorial. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
AliceFun
04-17-2014, 07:17 PM
Something new just happened on sm tonite, i had a private chat request for a two way cam session with a guy i had before but this request was all new to me, i was thinking it's an exclusive but after the show i saw it was premium session, i did not see the word Premium or private, in fact i cant recall the exact wording lol, anyone can clarify pls?
It came up in a small window like for exclusive or block session request. I am wondering why the change, i can think of a few things but cant really voice them as i am not sure they valid or not.
Snowy0Star
04-17-2014, 07:43 PM
im trying to mess with the encoder settings and make my stream more stable because my stream is messing up all the time turning off the auto adjust makes my stream choppy turning it on and setting it to drop frames is doing just that but its clearing out my room when it does and making my pvt shorter then they could be . before i started tonight i restarted my comp and un/re plugged in my modem and my router and it was still dropping frames so i try setting to degrade quality and this is a copy of my encoder log
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:03 : Selected video input device: Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:03 : Selected audio input device: Microphone (HD Pro Webcam C920)
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:29 : Primary - Connected to FMS/5,0,3,3029
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:29 : Primary - Stream[o/12978057/show_17713331] Status: Success
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:29 : Primary - Stream[o/12978057/show_17713331] Status: NetStream.Publish.Start
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:30 : Session Started
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:31 : Session Started
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:31 : Video Encoding Started
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:31 : Audio Encoding Started
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:31 : Audio Encoding Stopped
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:31 : Video Encoding Stopped
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:31 : Session Stopped
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:32 : Session Started
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:33 : Video Encoding Started
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:04:33 : Audio Encoding Started
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:23:19 : Auto Adjust : Video bitrate set to 713 Kbps
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:23:28 : Auto Adjust : Video bitrate set to 587 Kbps
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:23:39 : Auto Adjust : Video bitrate set to 550 Kbps
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:23:39 : AutoAdjust: Video Bitrate required for current available upstream bandwidth is less than Minimum Video Bitrate value.
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:23:39 : AutoAdjust: Switching to frame drop.
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:23:39 : Auto Adjust: Drop Frame Command sent for stream o/12978057/show_17713331 being published to server rtmp://fcs16-1.streamate.com/naiad/live5
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:25:39 : Auto Adjust: Stop Drop Frame Command sent for stream o/12978057/show_17713331 being published to server rtmp://fcs16-1.streamate.com/naiad/live5
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:25:54 : AutoAdjust: Video Bitrate required for current available upstream bandwidth is less than Minimum Video Bitrate value.
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:25:54 : AutoAdjust: Switching to frame drop.
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:25:54 : Auto Adjust: Drop Frame Command sent for stream o/12978057/show_17713331 being published to server rtmp://fcs16-1.streamate.com/naiad/live5
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:26:59 : Auto Adjust: Stop Drop Frame Command sent for stream o/12978057/show_17713331 being published to server rtmp://fcs16-1.streamate.com/naiad/live5
Thu Apr 17 2014 22:27:04 : Auto Adjust : Video bitrate set to 605 Kbps
why is it still dropping frames ?
AliceFun
04-17-2014, 08:04 PM
Since u changed the settings to Degrade quality now u have the Bitrate value dropping so either way u set it to Drop frames or Degrade quality looks like ur connection is not reliable. How many frames per second u have for the picture & what resolution? Maybe lower that, let's say to 15 frames per second and 640xsomething that looks wide screen picture (i think 640x360?! - not sure). Set bitrate to 650 eventually instead of 800. See where u get a stable stream, good luck!
ETA: so yes as u see in the message log "AutoAdjust: Video Bitrate required for current available upstream bandwidth is less than Minimum Video Bitrate value."
Then it switches to frame drop ->
"AutoAdjust: Switching to frame drop." -> BAD connection, probably on ur side?!
Snowy0Star
04-17-2014, 08:22 PM
Since u changed the settings to Degrade quality now u have the Bitrate value dropping so either way u set it to Drop frames or Degrade quality looks like ur connection is not reliable. How many frames per second u have for the picture & what resolution? Maybe lower that, let's say to 15 frames per second and 640xsomething that looks wide screen picture (i think 640x360?! - not sure). Set bitrate to 650 eventually instead of 800. See where u get a stable stream, good luck!
ETA: so yes as u see in the message log "AutoAdjust: Video Bitrate required for current available upstream bandwidth is less than Minimum Video Bitrate value."
Then it switches to frame drop ->
"AutoAdjust: Switching to frame drop." -> BAD connection, probably on ur side?!
it is my connection somewhat i had another camgirl do i test that has a background in IT and apparently the internet lines in my area are an old type - not the best , so im just fucking with my encoder settings trying to do something to make it not fuck up
MissBlake
04-17-2014, 08:40 PM
Have a lot of guys favorited you on SM?Have you referred anyone with your cammodels link? You will lose those things plus ratings, tags and comments if you make a new account so think of that. It might be better off to just stick to a consistent schedule and keep trying on your current account hun
Edit: I actually think Vanessa or Liz can move favs to the new account but you will lose everything else.
I do have a lot of guys that faved me, though I feel that there isn't enough guys that after the 1st or 3rdpvt/exclu they got cheap on me, I had to block or kick out.. I went back on today and only made 12.88 in 2hours It is better today. I guess I have to stick it out and see what happens. I managed to get a free chat loader to come into guest chat and pay which gives me some hope. I can be really good at camming I have made 1,200 in a week a few months ago..though I can lose motivation sometimes
BustyVixen
04-18-2014, 05:36 AM
Question...since SM went to the wide screen ( think it's been close to a year now or so ), I have issues with my cam going blurry quite often. Anyone else have this happen and know why? Is there something that I can adjust in the encoder? I use a Logitech cam...can't remember which model and I'm on a Mac if this makes any difference. Thnks!!
SophiaSylvan
04-18-2014, 06:50 AM
Question...since SM went to the wide screen ( think it's been close to a year now or so ), I have issues with my cam going blurry quite often. Anyone else have this happen and know why? Is there something that I can adjust in the encoder? I use a Logitech cam...can't remember which model and I'm on a Mac if this makes any difference. Thnks!!
I had some troubles with my cam a while after that, with my video degrading and choppy. Is this just your cam going blurry not your stream going choppy and degraded? Does your bitrate go down randomly but your connection says good? What are your computers stats? I was told I absolutely had to have an i7 or i8, lots of RAM and memory. I had a quad core but tech said it had to be Intel *shrug*. It was better after I did an expensive computer upgrade. I don't know about the requirements with Macs though.
Bubblegum1235
04-18-2014, 07:11 AM
I had problems with encoder last night too, my bitrate kept dropping. I just restarted the pc, and it seemed fixed...anyway is the only solution I know for technical issues LOL
Bambola
04-18-2014, 10:45 AM
I start today using encoder with all the settings good and HD seems like before i did everything bad....and wow my traffic up so much and my average hour for today is 40$ hour... but some mother fucker rate me with one star.... anyway im happing for start using encoder and hd,im lost many time before....without this
Another question for experienced models - do you find it's better to greet the guys who visit your room, or let them initiate conversation? I've been greeting them since I don't want to be a boring, "do nothing" camgirl, but I don't want to frighten guys away, either. What do you suggest?
Thanks so much for your help!
GlamourRouge
04-18-2014, 12:01 PM
Another question for experienced models - do you find it's better to greet the guys who visit your room, or let them initiate conversation? I've been greeting them since I don't want to be a boring, "do nothing" camgirl, but I don't want to frighten guys away, either. What do you suggest?
Thanks so much for your help!
I only greet ones that have done shows with me before, or who type to me.
SophiaSylvan
04-18-2014, 01:25 PM
I only greet ones that have done shows with me before, or who type to me.
Same here. I don't always greet 1's either, depends how many people are in the room and how busy or slow it is.
Zillah_
04-18-2014, 01:29 PM
I too was having troubles with the encoder last night, I managed to get it steady without dropping frames/quality however I noticed that the encoder would randomly disconnect from the website. Everything looked fine on my end with the output video and my stream was still running, but the encoder would just randomly disconnect and people couldn't see me. Any ideas? It helps a lot with traffic - but if it keeps disconnecting/freezing in a private it's kind of counter productive haha. It seemed to happen regardless of using it on high/low settings, and all my equipment is brand new and generally runs very well.
SoloDesire
04-18-2014, 04:50 PM
I'm signed in to my member account and every model's button to join her show is cropped off at the bottom. I can still click it, but just barely. Anyone else having this issue or is Chrome just fucking with me?
temptingmodel
04-18-2014, 06:01 PM
i see you posted a hour ago but I see it them now using chrome,,, ==))))) a hour later
kittyangel
04-19-2014, 04:35 PM
I'm having this problem with my stream where it keeps looking all pixelated, im using the encoder and its working smoothly except for the pixelation. idk what it is, does anyone have any idea?
temptingmodel
04-19-2014, 08:11 PM
not enough lights
Bambola
04-20-2014, 04:57 AM
I feel so stupid since i used HD,three days my average hour and my traffic is 100% more,today i make 115$ in 1 hour and 50 minutes,many months fucked thinking im streaming in hd AND im not...
SophiaSylvan
04-20-2014, 08:05 AM
I'm having this problem with my stream where it keeps looking all pixelated, im using the encoder and its working smoothly except for the pixelation. idk what it is, does anyone have any idea?
I've noticed sporadic pixelation along with bitrate drop and sometimes lag/freeze that members reported before I did a computer upgrade. Or is it constant?
laurielegs
04-20-2014, 03:30 PM
I feel so stupid since i used HD,three days my average hour and my traffic is 100% more,today i make 115$ in 1 hour and 50 minutes,many months fucked thinking im streaming in hd AND im not...
Be happy you found it out now ; -) I tried for a long time to convince a friend to try it and finally she did and ended up making $20 an hour more in addition to what she was making so she is so pleased.
Congratulations on that $ - nice job!
Issabelle
04-20-2014, 05:53 PM
Anyone else having crazy encoder issues right now? I'm seeing a 5-10 second delay with my stream. Everything looks normal with it until I actually start the show, then it immediately starts to lag. Not choppy, just behind. I tried updating my browser/encoder, then switched browsers, then reset the computer, and I'm using the 'recommended' settings from SM on my encoder--no help. I'm making great money today too, so I'd love to fix this.
^me!! guys say im lagging :S :S :S
A system error has occured. Please try to send GOLD at a later time. the fuck?
and i have my room fucking packed.... argh
TattooedBBW
04-20-2014, 06:30 PM
A system error has occured. Please try to send GOLD at a later time. the fuck?
Oh god, as if it's not hard enough to convince a guy to give gold, now there's errors!?
I'm dreading logging in now *sigh*
Issabelle
04-20-2014, 06:34 PM
I'm still doing okay overall. I just make sure I don't try to do any crazy fast moves and I'm aware of the lag. I'm hoping it gets fixed soon though...
Bambola
04-21-2014, 01:22 AM
Be happy you found it out now ; -) I tried for a long time to convince a friend to try it and finally she did and ended up making $20 an hour more in addition to what she was making so she is so pleased.
Congratulations on that $ - nice job!
Sure,but i think i lost many months i was earn very little,when i have the new model icon i made 200 dolars in two hours but after i always have one guy in my room or two,in the gold shows maximum 9 and now normally have 10 guys and in gold shows more than 30.Before i was use de encoder with mal configuration (i thought with HD) i see,i was write SM and ask why i dont have traffic,i have good webcam also,and they dont help me... and now if the thing is like that i can buy a car in two months,the bad new i already pay for my breast augmenation the deposit,and i can cancel,so i cant camming for a month or more after that...
but now not even want tits
Anyway thanks laurilegs we should be happy,have a great day!!!!!
Bambola
04-21-2014, 04:34 AM
I have a question about rating,,if some guy is in my room two minutes and leave and rateme one star i can email SM for they quit or i cant? because yesterday one guy do this,but some guys do it for fuck only....and i think i can email always for the delete bad ratings....?even if the guy is two minutes in the room...
Yes bambola you can, just send it to sm support. I even had a 4 star removed, but that was a case when the guy told me he hit it wrong (i print the screen so) haha. I'm such a whiny bitch.
BTW i contacted support and they told me I was doing ok, that it must be just the guys connexion. BULLSHIT. So many customers complaining and so many of you doing so... Agh.
SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
04-21-2014, 08:23 AM
So I know I've read it before, but now I cant find it... How does the rating system work on SM? Like they average the last 30 days of ratings or something? So If I have a bunch of 5 stars and then get a 3 or a 1 star, it won't matter all that much right? Its just an average over a certain amount of time and/or ratings, right?
Bambola
04-21-2014, 09:41 AM
So I know I've read it before, but now I cant find it... How does the rating system work on SM? Like they average the last 30 days of ratings or something? So If I have a bunch of 5 stars and then get a 3 or a 1 star, it won't matter all that much right? Its just an average over a certain amount of time and/or ratings, right?
I hate that i always have 5 stars and if after somebody put one star my total rate is 4 and half and if after i have 5 rates more 5 stars i still have 4 and half stars in my profile!I hate because if somebody put one star fuck you for many days no matter how many 5 stars you have after...
RoxyKali
04-21-2014, 09:53 AM
So i finally decided to sign up after lurking this site for the last few weeks!
I recently just got into camming via SM and this is the first time ever i have done anything like this. I'm doing it undercover (not telling anyone i know) for now, so i don't really have anyone to ask for things that i think i need to know in order to be semi-successful. So here it goes.
1. Can customers choose how much they want to tip? Or are all tips the same amount? If not what do you guys have for your tip rates for flashing tits and booty and all that in free chat if any?
2. My one friend who does this told me she has a specific place for amazon wishlist links although she is on naked.com, does SM have that? and if not how does the amazon e-gift cards work.. is it through email? Do you ask specific members to send them to you or is that something they offer to buy you?
3. My friend also on naked.com told me that if anyone steals the content from her shows and post it on other sites, they have lawyers that fight to remove it and actively search for stolen paid site material.. is that also the same here?
4. When you are taken into private how long do you take before you start playing with toys? I had one member take me to private and i did somewhat of a sexy strip tease for like 3ish minutes and just as i got fully naked i'm not sure if his account ran out of balance or if he logged out, the screen flashed a couple times and then gave me a countdown to get ready for free chat again. So that made me wonder if i took to long to "play with myself" but at the same time i personally feel like it should take at least a couple minutes before getting to it.. am i wrong?
thanks in advance for the help! Sorry i'm such a newbie at this!
Nocturnelle
04-21-2014, 10:00 AM
1. Customers can tip any amount they want. You can charge whatever you want for a request as long as it's not explicit or showing vag. Most girls ask for tips for showing tits, ass, feet, standing, etc.
2. No wish lists or outside contact on SM.
3. Streamate has thousands of white labels and they record your shows and will post them on said white label. If you find your content on a tube site, you don't need the site to send a DMCA as you can do that yourself.
4. Wait at least 30 seconds. The first 30 seconds of any private or exclusive chat is free. Take long enough to weed out the peepers, but don't wait too long that they get bored. Some guys want to immediately get to the play so, it depends on the dude.
Magical_Hoohah
04-21-2014, 10:36 AM
So I know I've read it before, but now I cant find it... How does the rating system work on SM? Like they average the last 30 days of ratings or something? So If I have a bunch of 5 stars and then get a 3 or a 1 star, it won't matter all that much right? Its just an average over a certain amount of time and/or ratings, right?
I'm pretty sure it's the average of the past 90 days. Any ratings over 90 days old drop off and aren't included in your average. If you haven't gotten any ratings in the past 90 days (if you were taking a break from camming or something) they reset you to the standard 4 stars like a new girl has.
Snowy0Star
04-21-2014, 11:39 AM
BTW i contacted support and they told me I was doing ok, that it must be just the guys connexion. BULLSHIT. So many customers complaining and so many of you doing so... Agh.
im thinking u need to play with ur encoder settings something seems wrong if its a all day every day issue if u look a page or two back about my streaming issues the settings that alice fun recommended to me seem to be working fine for me the only thing i had to do differently was bump the FPS up to 20 because the 15 was making my feed just a touch choppy and i want perfection. i was worried about a drop in my quality but other cam girls and a few regs saw the before and after and it still looks great . what encoder settings are u using right now?
Alylondon
04-21-2014, 12:14 PM
Guys are getting kicked from my room.......kinda pissed about it. Is there anything I can do about it?
TattooedBBW
04-21-2014, 01:57 PM
Watching tv shows online and this goddamn popup comes up: http://www.thefreecamsecret.com/ap/?DF=0&AFNO=1-0-123456-341541&UHNSMTY=303&stno=1-738-792-3001-2037-1976&sanp=prop
It makes me soo mad, Im sure most of you have seen that before, damn affiliates.
yeah, i've been playing a lot with the frames and all but i'm still no expert... I will try next time I cam. WHich were those recommendations? What should I change?
BTW Is still holiday in the US now?
It's nothing wrong i thing, some guys say the streaming is good some say it freezes...
Chef_Vivienne
04-21-2014, 06:34 PM
I'm brand spanking new to SW and just want to say THANK YOU for the existence of this place and all the supportive advice. I signed up for sm today, feeling comfortable and confident after reading so much here. I've submitted everything and it says it could take up to 7 days to be approved. Is this accurate? I'm ready to roll, the suspense is killing me.
SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
04-21-2014, 08:20 PM
I'm brand spanking new to SW and just want to say THANK YOU for the existence of this place and all the supportive advice. I signed up for sm today, feeling comfortable and confident after reading so much here.
Yes, without this forum, I wouldve gotten eaten alive :D
MissQuirk
04-21-2014, 11:51 PM
WHYYYYY
4 23:46:39 : Primary - Reconnected to FMS/5,0,3,3029
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:46:39 : Primary - Stream[o/20068012/show_59439042] Status: Success
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:46:39 : Primary - Network Status: NetConnection.Connect.Closed status
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:46:48 : Auto Adjust : Video bitrate set to 552 Kbps
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:47:04 : Primary - Disconnected
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:47:08 : Primary - Re-establishing connection, attempt 1
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:47:08 : Primary - Reconnected to FMS/5,0,3,3029
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:47:08 : Primary - Stream[o/20068012/show_59439042] Status: Success
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:47:08 : Primary - Network Status: NetConnection.Connect.Closed status
WHAT EVEN IS THAT AND WHY DOES IT KEEP HAPPENING
>:C
http://www.lifeoutloud.kelseymcevoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/whhhyyyy.gif
i've restarted and this won't stop happening :< i had such a full room. bahh!
Snowy0Star
04-22-2014, 12:14 AM
WHYYYYY
4 23:46:39 : Primary - Reconnected to FMS/5,0,3,3029
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:46:39 : Primary - Stream[o/20068012/show_59439042] Status: Success
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:46:39 : Primary - Network Status: NetConnection.Connect.Closed status
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:46:48 : Auto Adjust : Video bitrate set to 552 Kbps
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:47:04 : Primary - Disconnected
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:47:08 : Primary - Re-establishing connection, attempt 1
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:47:08 : Primary - Reconnected to FMS/5,0,3,3029
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:47:08 : Primary - Stream[o/20068012/show_59439042] Status: Success
Mon Apr 21 2014 23:47:08 : Primary - Network Status: NetConnection.Connect.Closed status
WHAT EVEN IS THAT AND WHY DOES IT KEEP HAPPENING
>:C
http://www.lifeoutloud.kelseymcevoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/whhhyyyy.gif
i've restarted and this won't stop happening :< i had such a full room. bahh!
thats ur connection dropping out and reconnecting over and over again. why thats happening could be for a number of reasons tho