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Mare
04-29-2014, 03:56 AM
Wait, does that mean that if they're on a mobile device, they CAN'T read our profile?
That's kind of a problem. When they jump into private and demand anal, they could be justifiably pissed that you don't do anal, since they didn't have a profile there to tell them what you do and don't do...
They read profiles?!?!?!?! LMFAO

Airrrie
04-29-2014, 04:13 AM
What screen resolution do Ipad users have? Most at home computers use 1680 x 1050 which make the photos very large. I feel like the top 8 to 12 spots will see most of the traffic and the rest will be left by the wayside but then I honestly don't know what a horny mans surfing practices are either LOL. Seems to me, scrolling beyond 10 or 12 rows will be a rarity but either way the switch from default from 40 to 80 makes no difference because I doubt anyone will scroll all the way to 80. Lately the only guys finding my cam either have me bookmarked or by category search, so as you can imagine, traffic is very thin, especially because the guys who take the time to surf seem to be a more casual type surfer as opposed to the rush rush get me off now kind of guy. I am not online often enough to maintain top placement as I did in the past. It seems to be a means to an end for some girls, namely me. I only see freeloaders in my chat.

Airrrie
04-29-2014, 04:16 AM
Also, I have a question about the mobile market. Do mobile users fall into the geoblock or are they getting around it?

Airrrie
04-29-2014, 04:22 AM
They read profiles?!?!?!?! LMFAO

Yes they do. I've learned many of the guys we assume are only silent lurkers actually do read our profiles and look at our photo's. I also noticed a huge dip in pay when I used the word, "softcore". Guys don't need softcore anymore, they have freechat for that. Sad but true fact, the niche has seen brighter days. I also remember a day when performers had more respect for one another and the industry. When someone pointed out a niche being overlooked by performers using gallery pics or free video, they pulled them. Ahhh the good old days.

Blovely
04-29-2014, 04:49 AM
I'm not 100% sure how I feel about this new layout. But its not like it really matters because I'm going to have to get use to it. So far I think its less user friendly. The old layout seemed alot simpler and user friendly. However I'm glad that its better for mobile users and that they are final able to read our profiles. I do like the new comment section and how high quality the thumbs pics look. I think they should move the schedule underneath my expertise. It looks funny being in a single tab and having all of the white space. I think for now I'm going to use cammodels because I'm not ready to convert to the new SM.

tropo
04-29-2014, 05:15 AM
I don't like that one bit either. I think the pictures are too large. The 5 per row was great.

I get 5 per row on my PC screen.

~Carmen~
04-29-2014, 05:39 AM
I like the new look but it bothers me that categories are no longer in alphabetical order. I also think they should be still be visible without having to click.

temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 05:45 AM
I suppose it's going to be the 'battle of the first page' because the way it's set up; all that asscandy is too much to handle for one guy. These guys are going to scroll down to about the middle of the page and just pick someone because it's too much to take in :P

Average 0f 1300 MODELS online at all time, this is why there is a battle of the first page.

I couldn't imagine a guy scrolling and scrolling and scrolling through 1300 plus models. The grounds will become a battle. Its our own fault, we suggest girls try streamate as the first cam site when it should be the last due to most DO NOT have the equipment to hold some of the streaming abilities. :/ It is what it is.

I kinda like it, kinda dont. I get use to it the more I click.

Marina Starr
04-29-2014, 05:48 AM
I stay unbothered because of I'm a fetish ;D

Average 0f 1300 MODELS online at all time, this is why there is a battle of the first page.

I couldn't imagine a guy scrolling and scrolling and scrolling through 1300 plus models. The grounds will become a battle. Its our own fault, we suggest girls try streamate as the first cam site when it should be the last due to most DO NOT have the equipment to hold some of the streaming abilities. :/ It is what it is.

I kinda like it, kinda dont. I get use to it the more I click.

IvyRose
04-29-2014, 05:53 AM
I personally think it will be a lot harder for new girls with this layout. After the new modeltag they will be dropped somewhere at maybe 3rth page, hopefully if they are allready doing good higher up in front of the page.. , and all that scrolling down isnt really helpfull. I think the old layout was way clearer (like you could tell in 1 sec was online, you could scan through every page in a second, now you have to scroll down and rememeber the faces you allready seen)

Glamourmilf
04-29-2014, 06:27 AM
All the more reason to constantly ask guys to favorite You. I always have it on auto text, and remind my room throughout my shifts.

temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 06:29 AM
we are missing a row of girls, guys will scroll. No way do only 20hotties work on SM. I get 20 as default on every browser.

We have much bigger things to worry about than the new layout IMHO we are the performers, this is for the customer, not us. If they ask us, give them your honest opinion.

Looking at both side by side, the blind mofos that cant see shit can actually see.. I can see who is the picture.
Kinks need to be worked out with every new product. SM is not going to kill us, they will figure out what works and what does not.

We bitch about every little change they do YET we choose to work their platform. I always say beggars cant be choosers and that goes for us as well. Most of us signed up to work for streamate, they didn't come calling or knocking on my door so I will be grateful I have been loyal, put in the time and basically sold my sold my soul, pussy, tits, flash, goldshows and everything else to make streamate work for me.
WE BITCH ABOUT EVERYTHING... Im sure they expect this, its change and ppl dont like change.

MARKET THE FUCK OUT OF YOURSELVES .. THATS ALL I CAN SAY

justanothercamgirl
04-29-2014, 06:33 AM
I understand that progress marches on.....I totally get it.

I just wish that Streamate would give us a headsup when they make a major change like this. I've never seen a company that so keeps its workers in the dark the way it does.

I can already tell it is going to become a battle of the 'best text + profile picture' so all you Streamate exclusive camgirls better start working on your photoshop skills ASAP.

http://media.giphy.com/media/F48lE1unGWEH6/giphy.gif

justanothercamgirl
04-29-2014, 06:44 AM
we are missing a row of girls, guys will scroll. No way do only 20hotties work on SM. I get 20 as default on every browser.

We have much bigger things to worry about than the new layout IMHO we are the performers, this is for the customer, not us. If they ask us, give them your honest opinion.

Looking at both side by side, the blind mofos that cant see shit can actually see.. I can see who is the picture.
Kinks need to be worked out with every new product. SM is not going to kill us, they will figure out what works and what does not.

We bitch about every little change they do YET we choose to work their platform. I always say beggars cant be choosers and that goes for us as well. Most of us signed up to work for streamate, they didn't come calling or knocking on my door so I will be grateful I have been loyal, put in the time and basically sold my sold my soul, pussy, tits, flash, goldshows and everything else to make streamate work for me.
WE BITCH ABOUT EVERYTHING... Im sure they expect this, its change and ppl dont like change.

MARKET THE FUCK OUT OF YOURSELVES .. THATS ALL I CAN SAY

I totally agree with all of this. I stopped using Streamate as my main money-making site and started to move more towards indy when it became obvious how badly the glitches were affecting my ability to make money. I complain about the bad choices they make the way that a sports commentator complains about bad plays in a game. But, hey......it is their sandbox.

The only thing I would like to add to Tempting's great advice about marketing is that you should never be so foolish to ever depend on one site/stream of income as a camgirl. You are just there to ride the traffic on bigbox sites on the 'good days'......you better have at least one backup plan for the 'bad days' because every site waxes and wanes. It is dangerous to think that since one site has been making you the most income that it will continue to forever.

justanothercamgirl
04-29-2014, 06:48 AM
Random Question: Does this new layout mean that Streamate is moving to static picture only and the auto-snaps they used to take are dead?

Edited to answer my own question: The girls who are splitcamming with Verysoft are more apparent with this layout then ever before.

Marina Starr
04-29-2014, 06:51 AM
I am very thankful and blessed to have Streamate. Still my one and only site after three years! Love SM :)

We bitch about every little change they do YET we choose to work their platform. I always say beggars cant be choosers and that goes for us as well. Most of us signed up to work for streamate, they didn't come calling or knocking on my door so I will be grateful I have been loyal, put in the time and basically sold my sold my soul, pussy, tits, flash, goldshows and everything else to make streamate work for me.
WE BITCH ABOUT EVERYTHING... Im sure they expect this, its change and ppl dont like change.

MARKET THE FUCK OUT OF YOURSELVES .. THATS ALL I CAN SAY

Mare
04-29-2014, 07:22 AM
I stay unbothered because of I'm a fetish ;D
I'm going to grow a cock and join you !!! 1300 cockless ladies cramping my style. LOL

temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 07:24 AM
I totally agree with all of this. I stopped using Streamate as my main money-making site and started to move more towards indy when it became obvious how badly the glitches were affecting my ability to make money. I complain about the bad choices they make the way that a sports commentator complains about bad plays in a game. But, hey......it is their sandbox.

The only thing I would like to add to Tempting's great advice about marketing is that you should never be so foolish to ever depend on one site/stream of income as a camgirl. You are just there to ride the traffic on bigbox sites on the 'good days'......you better have at least one backup plan for the 'bad days' because every site waxes and wanes. It is dangerous to think that since one site has been making you the most income that it will continue to forever.
always have a back up.. always. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS and never burn a bridge unless you know that bridge is already falling apart.

I love SM but I know if I have to I do have options.

Playboy has been going strong since IDK so lets hope the same for the more successful big box CAM sites, I plan on hitting granny status with SM. What in 12 years or so? (37 years old now)

OK gotta work, im about to be blocked by the google focus app so ican work

MAKE MONIES BBs!

tropo
04-29-2014, 07:28 AM
The only thing I would like to add to Tempting's great advice about marketing is that you should never be so foolish to ever depend on one site/stream of income as a camgirl. You are just there to ride the traffic on bigbox sites on the 'good days'......you better have at least one backup plan for the 'bad days' because every site waxes and wanes. It is dangerous to think that since one site has been making you the most income that it will continue to forever.

Spot on! I've been caught out before, relying on one site where I did well for many years and then it went bad. If you're doing ok it's easy to get complacent and just cruise along. This particular site went bad because they didn't advance fast enough compared to the competition (technology wise)... but there are many reasons why a good site can go bad. Protect yourselves by diversifying. This is absolutely essential if camming is your primary source of income. Saving some money for bad days/weeks/months is also another good policy.

I was a bit quieter than usual over the last weekend. When exactly did SM change their layout?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-29-2014, 07:28 AM
Man I really need to pay more attention. I just clicked on the calendar and saw that Fuckafan is an ACTUAL thing supported by SM? From the post I've read here I thought it was something top cammers were getting away with, like they were breaking the rules. But SM supports it. Or at least staging a fan fuckthon. Never knew.

lemonberry
04-29-2014, 07:33 AM
Spot on! I've been caught out before, relying on one site where I did well for many years and then it went bad. If you're doing ok it's easy to get complacent and just cruise along. This particular site went bad because they didn't advance fast enough compared to the competition (technology wise)... but there are many reasons why a good site can go bad. Protect yourselves by diversifying. This is absolutely essential if camming is your primary source of income. Saving some money for bad days/weeks/months is also another good policy.

I was a bit quieter than usual over the last weekend. When exactly did SM change their layout?
Yesterday.

temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 07:39 AM
Man I really need to pay more attention. I just clicked on the calendar and saw that Fuckafan is an ACTUAL thing supported by SM? From the post I've read here I thought it was something top cammers were getting away with, like they were breaking the rules. But SM supports it. Or at least staging a fan fuckthon. Never knew.
i always wondered if this was the case, i keep my nose out of most performer BS. I did notice the calendar is fuller than usual

Im sure its staged, I have watched these guys and the average customer doesnt act like they do

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-29-2014, 07:42 AM
I never even noticed there was a calendar before now. Sometimes Im not that observant. I live in pink bubble

IvyRose
04-29-2014, 08:04 AM
Ieeeek I dont know if it is the new layout, but I get a lot more customers inside my pvt at once. Loving the gangbangs ;)

Marina Starr
04-29-2014, 08:08 AM
Then you'll be a huge fetish! There's just something about a beautiful woman with a penis that is so sexy and erotic!

I'm going to grow a cock and join you !!! 1300 cockless ladies cramping my style. LOL

GracieBlue
04-29-2014, 08:51 AM
This change just reinforces that I need to STOP checking my placement and pay attention to my room! Otherwise, I would never have seen the change. My stream was glitchy but I'm hoping that it was just the roll out of the new layout. Otherwise, my traffic was there. Thank you cam gods! Good luck bbs!

Renton
04-29-2014, 08:54 AM
i always wondered if this was the case, i keep my nose out of most performer BS. I did notice the calendar is fuller than usual

Im sure its staged, I have watched these guys and the average customer doesnt act like they do

Yeah it's completely fake, it's just a porn studio :) they were on a documentary about camming, it's on the forum somewhere

Rosemary Rabbit
04-29-2014, 09:10 AM
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temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 09:35 AM
it was something you would see if you where bored lol
I never even noticed there was a calendar before now. Sometimes Im not that observant. I live in pink bubble

audritwo
04-29-2014, 09:43 AM
About the fuck a fan, I saw a larger guy naked driving a rascal around cam. He ended up getting voted off or something. The show is like shit you'd see on efukt.

GlamourRouge
04-29-2014, 09:46 AM
Man I really need to pay more attention. I just clicked on the calendar and saw that Fuckafan is an ACTUAL thing supported by SM? From the post I've read here I thought it was something top cammers were getting away with, like they were breaking the rules. But SM supports it. Or at least staging a fan fuckthon. Never knew.

Streamate partnered with Brazzers a long time ago, that's why. Mindgeek really pushes Brazzers

audritwo
04-29-2014, 09:56 AM
Some girls not associated with that studio do their own fuck a fan raffle thing.

GlamourRouge
04-29-2014, 09:58 AM
I don't know... what's the point in worrying about what others girls do? Its not like its illegal. And of course fuck a fan is rigged lol.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-29-2014, 10:04 AM
I dont think anyone was worried about what other girls do. I for one don't. I was just amazed and a bit tickled that it's supported after all I've read about it.

tropo
04-29-2014, 10:36 AM
All the more reason to constantly ask guys to favorite You. I always have it on auto text, and remind my room throughout my shifts.

May I ask, how do you set up "auto text"? I've looked through the manual but don't see any instructions on how it can be done.

claudilene
04-29-2014, 10:36 AM
Some girls not associated with that studio do their own fuck a fan raffle thing.

hi girls...I am back and I Will try harder.I have a question...I got a customer for 12 minutes in pvt.So hen we done he came back to my room on SM,i did not get any guest for another 30 minutes,I log out bcz I did not what to do.What I should had done?He was there seeing me with no guest.

chloemonet
04-29-2014, 10:36 AM
I honestly wonder sometimes if those raffles are putting the wrong idea in newer guys' heads. Last year when I started camming, I rarely encountered anyone that insisted on meeting up past the first "I don't meet up / I don't fuck customers" now it seems like I deal with this at least 5 times a day because according to them "other girls do it". It used to be just the cheap guys not looking to buy a show but now it's even spending custies. I had a guy take me private last week and he stayed enjoying the show for 5 minutes before he brought up meeting up, kept insisting that I come visit the uk and when I said no, he got angry and left.

Just some food for thought, I could be wrong but it's just my theory on why so many guys are under the impression that if they spend enough their favorite camgirl will meet up & have sex with them.

tropo
04-29-2014, 10:56 AM
hi girls...I am back and I Will try harder.I have a question...I got a customer for 12 minutes in pvt.So hen we done he came back to my room on SM,i did not get any guest for another 30 minutes,I log out bcz I did not what to do.What I should had done?He was there seeing me with no guest.

I wouldn't have worried about it and stayed logged on. I'm not sensitive about things like that. You can get quiet times, but if you keep logging out it'll get even quieter.

Camigirl
04-29-2014, 11:02 AM
I worked with SM, it was pretty good, but I swear to god I will not sit in a room with no people, fuck that time is money. I hop another site that is busier at the time.

GlamourRouge
04-29-2014, 11:08 AM
now it seems like I deal with this at least 5 times a day because according to them "other girls do it".

I could be wrong but it's just my theory on why so many guys are under the impression that if they spend enough their favorite camgirl will meet up & have sex with them.

They do that because we are advertised on dating, singles, and hookup tonight sites that are white labels or affiliates.

Honestly, I really don't think any girls ACTUALLY meet up with the customer that ~*wins the raffle*~. Do you ever see pictures of the meetup? No. Why meet up with a guy when you can just tell 100% of the guys that someone else won, and never meet up with any of them? Girls aren't dumb. Its just a way of marketing. Now I've never done it, but it seems to be a pretty successful way of doing things.

Nocturnelle
04-29-2014, 11:20 AM
So I'm wondering if this change is going to affect white labels as well.. And when?

SarahTime
04-29-2014, 11:30 AM
Random Question: Does this new layout mean that Streamate is moving to static picture only and the auto-snaps they used to take are dead?

Edited to answer my own question: The girls who are splitcamming with Verysoft are more apparent with this layout then ever before.

What do you mean about it being apparent who uses verysoft to split?

SaraLaughs
04-29-2014, 11:46 AM
Heyyy quick question... if I add my phone # to streamate's site does it display to custies? Like my actual real number? Cause my area code is quite distinctive and I don't want them to find me. :( Also, will it display my phone to just anyone? I don't want a million horny texts a day, haha.

Sorry if this has been asked before, I just can't find it anywhere.

Also I've been in private chat allllll morning rubbing myself. I kind of miss free chat at this point, HA.

audritwo
04-29-2014, 11:58 AM
get it girl!

No you're phone number will not be displayed if you put it available for the phone feature. It's call forwarding. They will submit their number, and click go. Then SM will call you, then connect them to you. It's totally safe.

~Carmen~
04-29-2014, 12:09 PM
Heyyy quick question... if I add my phone # to streamate's site does it display to custies? Like my actual real number? Cause my area code is quite distinctive and I don't want them to find me. :( Also, will it display my phone to just anyone? I don't want a million horny texts a day, haha.

Sorry if this has been asked before, I just can't find it anywhere.

Also I've been in private chat allllll morning rubbing myself. I kind of miss free chat at this point, HA.

Just to add to what Audri said...I don't leave my name or number on voice mail anymore. A few times it has happened to me that it automatically went to my voice mail.

SaraLaughs
04-29-2014, 12:13 PM
Thank you ladies, I'll be sure to change my voicemail message before I set up phone. :)

OKAY ONE MORE QUESTION!

How can I change my room from 'classic chat' to 'party chat'. I see the little dropdown when I'm streaming but it's unclickable. Do I have to spend a certain amount of time streaming before I can enable party chat or something?

audritwo
04-29-2014, 12:13 PM
So I'm wondering if this change is going to affect white labels as well.. And when?

Probably in a couple weeks once they work out the kinks.

audritwo
04-29-2014, 12:14 PM
Thank you ladies, I'll be sure to change my voicemail message before I set up phone. :)

Just set it to "Leave a message!" That's what I have.

tropo
04-29-2014, 12:41 PM
I worked with SM, it was pretty good, but I swear to god I will not sit in a room with no people, fuck that time is money. I hop another site that is busier at the time.

I don't have to hop on other sites as I'm already on them, but I can have all sites being quiet at the same time... sometimes time is just time and there's nothing you can do about it except wait around until it once again turns into money :)

Besides, how do you know there's not going to be a run on customers in the next 5 mins or hour? Quiet this hour doesn't mean the next hour is also going to be quiet. Sometimes you can make the most money when you least expect it. Sometimes you make the least money when you most expect it.

tropo
04-29-2014, 12:45 PM
What do you mean about it being apparent who uses verysoft to split?

I use Verysoft to split, but the logo will never show.