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JaneBurgess
04-29-2014, 01:15 PM
No, they can't see your number.



Heyyy quick question... if I add my phone # to streamate's site does it display to custies? Like my actual real number? Cause my area code is quite distinctive and I don't want them to find me. :( Also, will it display my phone to just anyone? I don't want a million horny texts a day, haha.

Sorry if this has been asked before, I just can't find it anywhere.

Also I've been in private chat allllll morning rubbing myself. I kind of miss free chat at this point, HA.

JaneBurgess
04-29-2014, 01:20 PM
That's been around for at least a year or so. I have always assumed it's rigged since porn studio's are big on testing and stuff.




Man I really need to pay more attention. I just clicked on the calendar and saw that Fuckafan is an ACTUAL thing supported by SM? From the post I've read here I thought it was something top cammers were getting away with, like they were breaking the rules. But SM supports it. Or at least staging a fan fuckthon. Never knew.

justanothercamgirl
04-29-2014, 01:50 PM
What do you mean about it being apparent who uses verysoft to split?

If you scroll through the girls pictures on the first few pages you can sometimes see there picture is a black screen with the verysoft logo on it. Feel free too PM me for a more detailed information if I didn't explain myself well. :)

justanothercamgirl
04-29-2014, 01:56 PM
This change just reinforces that I need to STOP checking my placement and pay attention to my room! Otherwise, I would never have seen the change. My stream was glitchy but I'm hoping that it was just the roll out of the new layout. Otherwise, my traffic was there. Thank you cam gods! Good luck bbs!

For what it is worth Gracie, bb. I saw you in the top rows when I got my first glimpse of the site change. ;)

Camigirl
04-29-2014, 02:28 PM
I don't have to hop on other sites as I'm already on them, but I can have all sites being quiet at the same time... sometimes time is just time and there's nothing you can do about it except wait around until it once again turns into money :)

Besides, how do you know there's not going to be a run on customers in the next 5 mins or hour? Quiet this hour doesn't mean the next hour is also going to be quiet. Sometimes you can make the most money when you least expect it. Sometimes you make the least money when you most expect it.

I can't answer about all sites being quiet at once, I honestly never had that happen. Wait an hour if my room is dead...never! As for site hopping, I do not know if I missed that 'whale' that may have come through a dead room because I don't wait around to see. I do know that different methods of working cam have different results for each of us. So far going to a site that is busier than the one I logged into that may be slower that night has worked for me. I can not take the time to sit around waiting for people to come into my room. That's me. This is why I do a quick scan of the site I work that day/evening. Now, this does not mean it's going to be a busy night for me, but I do my best to check out where I will place myself for work.

I have to have at least chat happening if the tipping or privates are a bit slow, then I will hang, but just for a short time, as I said in another thread IF I have time wasters in my room it's the same thing... I tell them tip, private or I am leaving.

To me there is nothing worse than signing on to make money and not making any, that is just who I am. :)

Lots of luck.

claudilene
04-29-2014, 02:34 PM
i wouldn't have worried about it and stayed logged on. I'm not sensitive about things like that. You can get quiet times, but if you keep logging out it'll get even quieter.thank you so much

tropo
04-29-2014, 02:56 PM
^^ I think you misunderstood. I don't hop sites. I use 4 all night. If you did this, you'd understand what I mean by sites being dead, then coming alive... but if you stop and change sites when they go quiet you can't know that. I never think negatively that a site which is currently quiet now will remain quiet all night. I also think that it could come alive at any time. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, but you cannot predict it.

If you work many sites simultaneously, there's always chat happening, but I'm talking sales here, not free chat. When I refer to a site being quiet, I'm referring to privates.

Where did I state I don't make money because sites can be dead? I'll make less money, but I still achieve my goals every time I work. In 8 1/2 years I can count on one hand the times I didn't achieve my goal. Yes, time is money, but sometimes more, sometimes less.

Camigirl
04-29-2014, 04:14 PM
^^ I think you misunderstood. I don't hop sites. I use 4 all night. If you did this, you'd understand what I mean by sites being dead, then coming alive... but if you stop and change sites when they go quiet you can't know that. I never think negatively that a site which is currently quiet now will remain quiet all night. I also think that it could come alive at any time. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, but you cannot predict it.

If you work many sites simultaneously, there's always chat happening, but I'm talking sales here, not free chat. When I refer to a site being quiet, I'm referring to privates.

Where did I state I don't make money because sites can be dead? I'll make less money, but I still achieve my goals every time I work. In 8 1/2 years I can count on one hand the times I didn't achieve my goal. Yes, time is money, but sometimes more, sometimes less.

I do understand what you are saying. I have worked 3, 4 and 5 sites at once as well. Now I will do 3 sites if need be to make money faster. For the most part I tend to work one site at a time now. I will log off if my room is slow and work another site only because I hit the morning wood guys then I can hit the lunch wankers or dinner guys, all who seem to have different lives and different sized wallets. I want chat as well as sales. What I meant is IF a member comes into my room I do want him to chat with me, if he does not I will call him out and ask him to talk with me. Sometimes you can get too many watchers and not buyers, I don't like this, that will cause me to ask them to get involved in my show or I am leaving, I have no reason to sit and chat with members all day when I want privates. I'm sure you understand.

I don't think I said anything about YOU not making money because sites can be dead.
I have been doing cam a long long time, so I guess I just don't have the general 30 minute chit chat crap some members want to do with me. We can do this and more in a private is what I meant.
I am not looking for less money, I want more. When I sign on I have a lot of motivation, if I don't feel the motivation in my room I log to another site, this works for me. This is not what all performers do however, you have to do what works for you.
I have cammed since 30 now I am 50+ :) I have found my way in the cam world, I like it. A certain amount of money has to come in no matter what. Hope you understand.
Lots of luck.

SarahTime
04-29-2014, 05:10 PM
If you scroll through the girls pictures on the first few pages you can sometimes see there picture is a black screen with the verysoft logo on it. Feel free too PM me for a more detailed information if I didn't explain myself well. :)

That's what I thought you meant but I wasn't sure. I've seen that for a while now but usually not on the first page. I think they must not be using the splitter right though.

TattooedBBW
04-29-2014, 05:15 PM
Thank you ladies, I'll be sure to change my voicemail message before I set up phone. :)

OKAY ONE MORE QUESTION!

How can I change my room from 'classic chat' to 'party chat'. I see the little dropdown when I'm streaming but it's unclickable. Do I have to spend a certain amount of time streaming before I can enable party chat or something?

Sara I didn't see if this was answered so forgive me if someone else has already answered this- you have to click the drop down before u click the start my show in green and start streaming and it'll switch you to party chat :)

SarahTime
04-29-2014, 05:38 PM
I'm on my iPad and I see that Streamate.com has the old layout when viewing on my iPad. Earlier on my Mac it was the new one. Did they change it back or is the iPad version still the old version? If so, that would rid the idea that they were going for a more app friendly site...?

Snowy0Star
04-29-2014, 05:46 PM
I'm on my iPad and I see that Streamate.com has the old layout when viewing on my iPad. Earlier on my Mac it was the new one. Did they change it back or is the iPad version still the old version? If so, that would rid the idea that they were going for a more app friendly site...?

i just went on to log in for the night on my desktop and its still the layout that was put up yesterday. How ironic the desktop version got converted for mobile use but the mobile version is still the old layout

Seforasweet
04-29-2014, 05:54 PM
okay what does the media encoder do? I'm not sure where to download it right now i need a free one until i can afford the 49.99 adobe version.

BustyVixen
04-29-2014, 05:58 PM
Fuck A Fan is a show put on by Immoral Live which is Porno Dan's company. He has others such as Cock Sucking Challenge and Squirtamania. They are all live shows with porn stars and the guys in fuck a fan are tested and use condoms. They aren't actual fans of the girls necessarily but more of guys looking to break into the biz. He used condoms for all of his shows now since it's the law. This has nothing to do with girls you see holding a raffle or fuck a fan contest on their own, his is a legitimate production.

temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 07:10 PM
PornoDan is the name I was trying to think of. :) Ty babe
watching the guys can be very interesting. Sometimes I wish there was not so much big of space and people walking randomly into the scenes. I know they are camera men but they really get in the way lol

temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 07:18 PM
it is free, we dont pay for it , simply download it and follow directions.
<---- says what it does for you in the HDEncoder tab on the right of your profile page after logged in to your model account. The tab for support, click on it and it has answers you seek.
this is a big help as well. Everything is your dashboard

okay what does the media encoder do? I'm not sure where to download it right now i need a free one until i can afford the 49.99 adobe version.

temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 07:25 PM
I honestly wonder sometimes if those raffles are putting the wrong idea in newer guys' heads. Last year when I started camming, I rarely encountered anyone that insisted on meeting up past the first "I don't meet up / I don't fuck customers" now it seems like I deal with this at least 5 times a day because according to them "other girls do it". It used to be just the cheap guys not looking to buy a show but now it's even spending custies. I had a guy take me private last week and he stayed enjoying the show for 5 minutes before he brought up meeting up, kept insisting that I come visit the uk and when I said no, he got angry and left.

Just some food for thought, I could be wrong but it's just my theory on why so many guys are under the impression that if they spend enough their favorite camgirl will meet up & have sex with them.
^^^ this is a fantasy and 95% of them believe their fantasy, they do it with dancers as well. Its part of the job. Playing into it or not is 100% up to the performer

if they get angry and leave fuck them, we are a fantasy. Real world has to hit them sooner but usually much later.

I play into the fantasy. I want them to keep as their fantasy girl as long as possible. :D

Dangerous? well, so is the stranger walking down the street with a record 18 pages long with insane charges.. We dont run from them.
I choose to broadcast the world wide web, I feel safer in my own home playing fantasy than a nightclub.

temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 07:28 PM
@Sarah and Snowy I bet they have to code it for all tablets and its prob not done?

Seforasweet
04-29-2014, 07:32 PM
oh thank you this helps

brittany_bitch
04-29-2014, 07:37 PM
Has anyone elses placement dropped since the layout change? I am on page 5 wtf I have been on page 1 always since like 9 months ago I will dwindle to the top of page 2 if it is slow or during the day I am always on page two because I work nights and night I am on page one I am so pissed right now I am going to log on later to see if it has changed will report back. I cannot see where it is fair to drop me or others from the front page because they made a new page. So sad pissed scared I hope this changes.

temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 07:43 PM
Has anyone elses placement dropped since the layout change? I am on page 5 wtf I have been on page 1 always since like 9 months ago I will dwindle to the top of page 2 if it is slow or during the day I am always on page two because I work nights and night I am on page one I am so pissed right now I am going to log on later to see if it has changed will report back. I cannot see where it is fair to drop me or others from the front page because they made a new page. So sad pissed scared I hope this changes.

Well, I see a lot older models that have come back, new models that are studio and have that contract and when all that happens some of us are pushed further back.

I swear last night you bumped the bottom of page 1 and top of 2. Im watching as well bc we are missing a row so its interesting to see.

JaneBurgess
04-29-2014, 09:59 PM
Perhaps there are some glitches since it's a new layout and they are still working on things. Give it a few days and see where you are.



Has anyone elses placement dropped since the layout change? I am on page 5 wtf I have been on page 1 always since like 9 months ago I will dwindle to the top of page 2 if it is slow or during the day I am always on page two because I work nights and night I am on page one I am so pissed right now I am going to log on later to see if it has changed will report back. I cannot see where it is fair to drop me or others from the front page because they made a new page. So sad pissed scared I hope this changes.

temptingmodel
04-29-2014, 10:02 PM
the new layout, we are missing a whole row. Thats the problem. 5 whole cams have to be pushed back, pushing others and new/old are coming in. its a ratrace like normal, just harder. : /
its crazy. wish they could've/would've/should've kept it consistent on our end. Change of layout, fine. Keep the rows maybe?

Busygirl
04-29-2014, 10:37 PM
I wouldn't surprise me if they did it on purpose, to cut down performers displayed on first page, since traffic is getting smaller, and they would want to concentrate the majority of remaining traffic to first pagers, to keep them happy, and make them stay ?! Just a thought.

Busygirl
04-29-2014, 10:41 PM
Also when i looked on the last row on first page, there were only 3 cams displayed, or two, and gives the impression there are no more cams to fill the page.

Sparks
04-29-2014, 11:59 PM
The new layout makes the site look so cheap, the old layout was more visually appealing.

Bubblegum1235
04-30-2014, 12:13 AM
I honestly wonder sometimes if those raffles are putting the wrong idea in newer guys' heads. Last year when I started camming, I rarely encountered anyone that insisted on meeting up past the first "I don't meet up / I don't fuck customers" now it seems like I deal with this at least 5 times a day because according to them "other girls do it". It used to be just the cheap guys not looking to buy a show but now it's even spending custies. I had a guy take me private last week and he stayed enjoying the show for 5 minutes before he brought up meeting up, kept insisting that I come visit the uk and when I said no, he got angry and left.

Just some food for thought, I could be wrong but it's just my theory on why so many guys are under the impression that if they spend enough their favorite camgirl will meet up & have sex with them.
Well, I started camming like 8 months ago now, and before that, I cammed a short time like 4 years ago, but even then, I had guys wanting to meet up every single day, I donīt think is anything new. Itīs not a big deal for me tough, I just go with the flow, "Oh what would we do if we would be together? Yeah, sounds fun, you seem nice but Iīm not allowed though, but hey, letīs keep in touch, I would love to play with you again" Usually thatīs it :)

Sunnylexie
04-30-2014, 12:35 AM
Has anyone elses placement dropped since the layout change? I am on page 5 wtf I have been on page 1 always since like 9 months ago I will dwindle to the top of page 2 if it is slow or during the day I am always on page two because I work nights and night I am on page one I am so pissed right now I am going to log on later to see if it has changed will report back. I cannot see where it is fair to drop me or others from the front page because they made a new page. So sad pissed scared I hope this changes.

Yes, my placement's dropped all of a sudden and won't get better. Now I'm where the bare pussies are lol. Looks like I'm gonna have to carry my sexmachine to the attic - it's too expensive to daggle it around for 1.99 a minute which is a normal rate here))).

Mare
04-30-2014, 04:39 AM
If it makes anyone feel better remember the ladies on the first page many times on the top two rows saying they weren't necessarily making more $$ b/c of placement. Do the dreaded gold show once in awhile to get favorites so you show up on the top of their pages when they log in. Hopefully they will spend and not just always be cheap gs guys.

tropo
04-30-2014, 06:36 AM
^^You may have something there....I can't say anything about this in relation to SM but on AW I've paid for front page placement for many hours and achieved sweet fuck all. I gave it up as a waste of money. It would only cost me about $0.80 per hour to stay at the middle of the front page, but I make more money on the last 2 pages - go figure. One day I was doing ok at the back of the pack, so I decided to pay for front page for 6 hours. The privates I got in that time barely covered the cost of placement - went back to the back and started getting privates again. On AW there's between 300 and 600 models online depending on the time of day.

I don't know where I am on SM as I can't see me, but I'm probably a bit lucky because in the Asian category there's only one or two pages, so I'm always fairly visible wherever I happen to be.

I also have a theory (note: theory - don't bite my head off if you don't agree) that perhaps many customers are looking for the less experienced models who usually also charge less. The superstars intimidate a lot of customers. A lot of customers also realise that the less experienced, lower placed models are not as busy, more thankful to get privates and are willing to do more for less money.

Marina Starr
04-30-2014, 06:53 AM
Every time changes are being made, the SM thread always SLAYED me!
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/oprah-crying_zps43689500.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/oprah-crying_zps43689500.gif.html)

brittany_bitch
04-30-2014, 10:52 AM
Thanks girls I will be on later to check.I would at least rather be top of page 2 but 5 geez I have been doin so good especially friday worked 4 hours made my goal and met two new customers who kept coming back for long privates.I still have them but I rely on the new guys because everyday a majority of my goal comes from all those new guys. Maybe it will fix itself soon I will log on later to see and let all know. I don't really like the row thing maybe if they could keep the same girls up there and make it less big lol because it is kind of huge to me I just want to zoom out to get a better view you know. I love streamate it has treated me well and I want it to stay around forever lol but not the layout some things should be kept the same. If it's not broke why fix it?

BritishBecky
04-30-2014, 11:11 AM
It's displaying 5 per row again for me now

Nocturnelle
04-30-2014, 11:15 AM
Oh it looks so much better with the 5 girls per row.

ConnyLove
04-30-2014, 11:22 AM
Really ? only 4 per row here.

Blovely
04-30-2014, 11:24 AM
^^^There's 5 columns not rows. I noticed the pictures look smaller. I'm guessing they shrunk the thumbs to make space for 5 columns.

justanothercamgirl
04-30-2014, 11:26 AM
How strange! I actually have 7 per row and the pictures are smaller for sure.

ConnyLove
04-30-2014, 11:33 AM
Well maybe different browsers display more or less columns, I am using Firefox and everything looks same than yesterday , 4 columns and massive pics.

Blovely
04-30-2014, 11:38 AM
I see. I'm using Chrome. For me there's 4 rows and 5 columns when its on 20 per page.

SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
04-30-2014, 11:40 AM
I think you can adjust it. When I pinch my mousepad they shrink and increase # per row, when I expand on my mousepad they get larger and decrease # per row.

lemonberry
04-30-2014, 12:06 PM
On chrome its giving me 13 rows of 6 each and then one row of only 2 profiles. (wtf?) Set to 80 by default. Firefox gives me 16 rows of 5. Also set to 80 by default.

Marina Starr
04-30-2014, 12:50 PM
Dearest SM,
Can I take the rest of this week off?

Reason: new changes. 3, 6, 8, 5 1/2 girls in a row is giving me morning sickness.
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x444/thedelicatebones/sick.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/thedelicatebones/media/sick.gif.html)
Thank you,
Your unverified camgirl.

~Carmen~
04-30-2014, 12:59 PM
Dearest SM,
Can I take the rest of this week of?

Reason: new changes. 3, 6, 8, 5 1/2 girls in a row is giving me morning sickness.
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x444/thedelicatebones/sick.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/thedelicatebones/media/sick.gif.html)
Thank you,
Your unverified camgirl.

Marina, did you miss your shark month bb?
37383

Marina Starr
04-30-2014, 01:02 PM
I'm still waiting on it, BB! It's never late. I am now very worried.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/Cryinggifs_07_zps7081d04e.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/Cryinggifs_07_zps7081d04e.gif.html)

Marina, did you miss your shark month bb?
37383

justanothercamgirl
04-30-2014, 03:28 PM
Well maybe different browsers display more or less columns, I am using Firefox and everything looks same than yesterday , 4 columns and massive pics.

I am using Firefox too. How strange!

badcompany
04-30-2014, 04:27 PM
Hey ya'll sexy ladies! I haven't streamed live on SM since the change in format. I'm a little apprehensive about it due to a probable drop in placement for me. I really hope not......but based on what I have seen as a lurker this week.......I see several ladies that were previously on the front page a line above me broadcasting now on the 2nd page. I have noticed a huge influx of girls I have never seen on the front page before.

It's almost like starting a new job and having to meet 25 new employees in a week. Do ya'll notice this too? Or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

Nocturnelle
04-30-2014, 05:07 PM
Well, more girls are going to be flooding the scene in search of a summer job. But, it tends to mellow out after a few weeks because they realize it's not as easy as it looks!

badcompany
04-30-2014, 05:30 PM
Yeah, that's true. Never thought about that. Most definitely not as easy at it appears!

brittany_bitch
04-30-2014, 06:54 PM
All of the girls on page one are new to me they all have pro looking pics and I am used to seeing some weird first page pics and its like all the old 1st pagers from last week are gone wth? I check placement constantly so I always usually see the same girls everyday on the 1st page. So strange.

Marina Starr
04-30-2014, 07:14 PM
True dat, true dat! Or until they realize that looking pretty just isn't gonna cut it!
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/anigif_enhanced-27499-1398721904-15_zps82d912ce.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/anigif_enhanced-27499-1398721904-15_zps82d912ce.gif.html)

Well, more girls are going to be flooding the scene in search of a summer job. But, it tends to mellow out after a few weeks because they realize it's not as easy as it looks!