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RedAlice
05-03-2014, 06:12 AM
^Yes, it means you're on the 'new models' page for 30 days from the date your account is approved (I always thought it was from the date you first stream, but the SM recruitment twitter says otherwise). I've been reassured that it's not as important as new girl status on other sites, though it can guarantee traffic from guys who ~hunt~ for new girls.

I was worrying about wasting my new girl status but the ladies here convinced me it didn't matter too much. Made a new account anyway to switch usernames, and will try to take advantage of being new this time!

scarlettbelle
05-03-2014, 08:42 AM
Has ever a producer tip any of you during the countdown for a TV Goldshow? It has never happened me before, but today a producer tipped 10 gold during the countdown, in my earnings show as Tv compensation but usually I get that when I donīt reach the goal. I donīt know if itīs usual, but itīs never happened before...Maybe to entice others to tip?

Yes, I've had them do it to encourage a bidding war for high tipper and I've had them do it because they needed to start the show early for some reason. They always told me what they were doing in one of the pop-up messages beforehand.

HairyG
05-03-2014, 09:21 AM
Ok, thank you :)

Bubblegum1235
05-03-2014, 12:14 PM
^Thank you! Yes, I supposed that was the purpose. I was like Thank you...oh!!

SaraLaughs
05-03-2014, 02:19 PM
I was approved there over a year ago, started streaming last week, and have new model status according to the dudes in my room. Weird!


^Yes, it means you're on the 'new models' page for 30 days from the date your account is approved (I always thought it was from the date you first stream, but the SM recruitment twitter says otherwise). I've been reassured that it's not as important as new girl status on other sites, though it can guarantee traffic from guys who ~hunt~ for new girls.

I was worrying about wasting my new girl status but the ladies here convinced me it didn't matter too much. Made a new account anyway to switch usernames, and will try to take advantage of being new this time!

Snowy0Star
05-03-2014, 04:55 PM
Does anyone not work on SM full time anymore or use it part time and post ur cammodel link solely for the purpose of trying to get the 20% ? I got a pretty stable gig sexting and severely cut my hours back on SM because I can get more guaranteed income from the sexting (enough to cover my basic needs). And I'm getting more involved in off cam sex work for backup/ fun money.

Marina Starr
05-03-2014, 05:10 PM
I've always done SM part time, sis! I've never promoted my cammodel link because I don't want to increase the risk of being too outed! I am so happy and excited that you're getting more involved in off cam sex work. I feel so much better when I don't have to solely depend on camming.

Does anyone not work on SM full time anymore or use it part time and post ur cammodel link solely for the purpose of trying to get the 20% ? I got a pretty stable gig sexting and severely cut my hours back on SM because I can get more guaranteed income from the sexting (enough to cover my basic needs). And I'm getting more involved in off cam sex work for backup/ fun money.

Kaii
05-03-2014, 05:41 PM
*in my mind torturing the guy from SM support who replied me yesterday*

summing up:

me: guys getting kicked out and its not showing im streaming in HD. why?
they: tell us browser, version encoder, flash and any error message
me: I tell them all those things
they: ...
me: ?
me: ???
they: 1. we can't do any research with no specifics provided (*me starting mutilating this dude sloooowly in my mind*), and tell the customers to go to customer support (sure they will, ). And 2. Are you using the Encoder? (*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH*)

agh

/vent

kortneykay
05-03-2014, 05:47 PM
Does anyone not work on SM full time anymore or use it part time and post ur cammodel link solely for the purpose of trying to get the 20% ? I got a pretty stable gig sexting and severely cut my hours back on SM because I can get more guaranteed income from the sexting (enough to cover my basic needs). And I'm getting more involved in off cam sex work for backup/ fun money.

I also do SM very part time. I think the most I've ever logged on in one week was 20 hours and that was pushing it for me. As for the cammodels link I don't promote heavily but I do spam it to guys who contact me and cannot afford my rates. I tell them my hot girlfriends are on cam live and most have much cheaper rates. I realize that these guys were price shoppers anyway so I notice that they will spend $1-15 per show which is fine to me because I still get 20%. I also leave it in my skype status for those guys who wish to see me live. It's all in hopes that they sign up and spend on others. I have about 3 regular cammodel's link custies that use it regularly.

gingerstripper
05-03-2014, 09:14 PM
Not sure if this has been talked about.. but.. kinda curious..
does anyone notice that there is no.. secure placement now. usually youd log in and know where you would be about.. i went from a spot.. not gonna say who i am. some of you may know.. but my placement is NOT where is was.. it was in the same spots for months.. months.... and now.. the new format came out.. and im just scattered across the first row.

Marina Starr
05-03-2014, 09:37 PM
I believe with the new placement algorithm, the amount of hours you work is also very important. If you make a little more hourly than some models but worked less hours than they do, then their placement will mostly be higher than yours from what I understand. However, I still don't get it because I know some girls in my niche work less than I do, make less than I do and their placement is still higher than mine!
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/bolemis/i_don__t_get_it_by_mezkalito4p-d4haxsf.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/bolemis/media/i_don__t_get_it_by_mezkalito4p-d4haxsf.gif.html)

Not sure if this has been talked about.. but.. kinda curious..
does anyone notice that there is no.. secure placement now. usually youd log in and know where you would be about.. i went from a spot.. not gonna say who i am. some of you may know.. but my placement is NOT where is was.. it was in the same spots for months.. months.... and now.. the new format came out.. and im just scattered across the first row.

raine07
05-03-2014, 10:29 PM
I work a "day job" so i am unable to worknful time, but any pointer on how to make more on or offsite would be lovely, i just wish i started this a year ago, or at least found this site :-\
Does anyone not work on SM full time anymore or use it part time and post ur cammodel link solely for the purpose of trying to get the 20% ? I got a pretty stable gig sexting and severely cut my hours back on SM because I can get more guaranteed income from the sexting (enough to cover my basic needs). And I'm getting more involved in off cam sex work for backup/ fun money.

RedAlice
05-04-2014, 09:43 AM
I was approved there over a year ago, started streaming last week, and have new model status according to the dudes in my room. Weird!

I must've been right the first time then, and it's from the date you stream! SM recruitment twitter must've made a mistake. Oh well. That's good. ;D

SophiaSylvan
05-04-2014, 09:44 AM
Snowy, the most I can cam in a week is 20-21 hours. I find it very draining dealing with Streamate free chat idiocy in general, and all the fast paced short shows, gold shows etc. I do get plenty of long exclusives and block sessions but anyway, yes, I guess I could be considered part-time. On the days I'm offline I do promote other girls on my twitter using my cammodels link.

RedAlice
05-04-2014, 10:21 AM
I've just looked in on Fuck A Fan and it's made me feel ill.

GlamourRouge
05-04-2014, 10:32 AM
Not sure if this has been talked about.. but.. kinda curious..
does anyone notice that there is no.. secure placement now. usually youd log in and know where you would be about.. i went from a spot.. not gonna say who i am. some of you may know.. but my placement is NOT where is was.. it was in the same spots for months.. months.... and now.. the new format came out.. and im just scattered across the first row.

Its not random now, its just heavily based on your hourly and % in paid chat like it was last year. They changed the algorythm at the beginning of the year, and then changed it again when they changed the format. Obviously # of hours still heavily factors into it (girls who work more hours but have less % in paid chat will be pushed ahead) though.

anonymous camgirl
05-04-2014, 10:40 AM
I work on SM 40 hours a week.. bwaaaaaaaaaaa.. kill me!

~Carmen~
05-04-2014, 11:02 AM
37435
I work on SM 40 hours a week.. bwaaaaaaaaaaa.. kill me!

scarletl
05-04-2014, 11:03 AM
Is it possible to be a successful SM model (top 20) without showing tits or pussy and without doing cum shows?
If real long hours are put in?

justanothercamgirl
05-04-2014, 11:09 AM
Is it possible to be a successful SM model (top 20) without showing tits or pussy and without doing cum shows?
If real long hours are put in?

Yes it is.

It is just isn't easy. ;)

scarletl
05-04-2014, 11:15 AM
Yes it is.

It is just isn't easy. ;)

Lol I guessed as much.
I'm assuming gold shows wouldn't be great for that king of cam model? I assume you would rely on selling content, PVTS for fetish and chat and tease?

TransdimensionalPrincess
05-04-2014, 11:43 AM
I've just looked in on FuckAFan and it's made me feel ill.

No doubt, but doesn't immoral productions bring a lot of traffic to SM?

RedAlice
05-04-2014, 12:51 PM
No doubt, but doesn't immoral productions bring a lot of traffic to SM?

Oh aye! Surely does. & I'm not entirely against FAF in theory, but if they feature a model cannot speak or understand English with a crew who appears to be exclusively English-speaking ...

37437

GlamourRouge
05-04-2014, 02:09 PM
Is it possible to be a successful SM model (top 20) without showing tits or pussy and without doing cum shows?
If real long hours are put in?

I don't know anyone that doesn't do at least one of those things, that does well on that SM (always in the top 3 rows when logged on). I do well, and don't do cum shows or masturbation, but I am heavily niched with years of regulars. You would need a good untapped niche. But this is a sex site after all.

SarahTime
05-04-2014, 07:00 PM
Not sure if this has been talked about.. but.. kinda curious..
does anyone notice that there is no.. secure placement now. usually youd log in and know where you would be about.. i went from a spot.. not gonna say who i am. some of you may know.. but my placement is NOT where is was.. it was in the same spots for months.. months.... and now.. the new format came out.. and im just scattered across the first row.

It does seem more scattered but honestly I wouldn't worry as long as you are not dropping drastically. I don't see any significant change as long as I stay in rows 1-3. Below that I notice a drop in traffic but not always a drop in money made.

Really, if you are jumping spots in row 1, I highly doubt that is the cause of any lack of traffic or money. There is no difference in spot 1 vs spot 4 for example. You are still just as visible. It's been AWFUL this week for everyone, even those of us in rows 1-3.

SarahTime
05-04-2014, 07:02 PM
Its not random now, its just heavily based on your hourly and % in paid chat like it was last year. They changed the algorythm at the beginning of the year, and then changed it again when they changed the format. Obviously # of hours still heavily factors into it (girls who work more hours but have less % in paid chat will be pushed ahead) though.

That is the same I was thinking % in paid seems to be a big thing. And the OP gingerstripper, if she is who I'm pretty sure she is, she only does gold shows which would make for a lower % in paid.

I really think that's a big thing because my placement has gone UP the less gold shows I do and the more my % in paid goes up.

gingerstripper
05-04-2014, 07:09 PM
Yup that's me sarah. I need to do more exclusives and privates but get nervous. Lol.

gingerstripper
05-04-2014, 07:11 PM
Thank you. You just made me feel a whole better...this week was so bad I only made half my goal.. how about anyone else

SarahTime
05-04-2014, 07:11 PM
Yup that's me sarah. I need to do more exclusives and privates but get nervous. Lol.

Well think of it this way, since you usually ONLY do gold shows, you might get a nice boost if you started to offer pvt/excl. All those guys who want you alone but never get to have you will get the chance! :)

And if you price yourself right, you could earn more than gold shows. That is what I have found out. I pretty much don't do gold shows anymore because I can't reach goals anymore like I use to that make the shows worth it. So having to restart for an hour when I could be in private just doesn't add up anymore.

Try it, you might be surprised! :)

And yes, I came no where close to my goal. It's nice to hear I'm not alone too, but I feel bad for ALL of us. It was NBA playoffs week and for some strange reason this was also my worst week last year as well. I had no idea NBA was so popular, but my husband said he thinks it's because there is a game every single night, unlike NFL where it's only one day per week. So I'm fairly confident it's going to pick back up.

temptingmodel
05-04-2014, 07:13 PM
Really, if you are jumping spots in row 1, I highly doubt that is the cause of any lack of traffic or money. There is no difference in spot 1 vs spot 4 for example. You are still just as visible. It's been AWFUL this week for everyone, even those of us in rows 1-3.
I have seen more than TV show offered as well, they always get the top spots no matter who is on.

this week was pretty hectic, when a model sends her customers bc she sees I am struggling, that says a lot. She knows the struggle is real

in the US the weather is finally coming to a point ppl can go outside .. I see more and more late night hang outs and daytime pool side esp on the weekends :)

I took 3 days off and was only 200 away from goal. Work four days and still get a pretty check, Id rather do that than work 7 but I am what I am.. I fuckn work

anoncamgirl
05-04-2014, 07:19 PM
I'm getting pretty tired of Streamate.

Dear [[anoncamgirl]]:

Your profile has been rejected for the following reasons:

Your changes were rejected because
Asking for TIPS is not allowed.


Please login and access your account at http://www.streamatemodels.com/login.php
to make the necessary changes to your profile.

Thank you,
Streamate.com Streamate Support
[email protected]

There was one sentence in my profile abut tipping for requests. It got rejected. I'm very annoyed.

Streammate? More like Streamrape. I think I'll stick to videos, Skype shows, and sites that pay 50%+ who actually have a support team for their models.

Marina Starr
05-04-2014, 07:20 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/tumblr_inline_n4cwdcj4Y81qalw15_zpsa6ea899f.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/tumblr_inline_n4cwdcj4Y81qalw15_zpsa6ea899f.gif.ht ml)

I'm fairly confident it's going to pick back up.

temptingmodel
05-04-2014, 07:21 PM
^^this is my hell
I am hooked on soccer. I notice a lot of customers love it as well. When asked what Im watching and say soccer suddenly the room turned into a sports bar.
It is soccer , lax, baseball season and many others as well. My customers love soccer.

temptingmodel
05-04-2014, 07:25 PM
They don't want this to be a tipping site and with this in the actual profile it seems as if the model will perform in free for tips.

Putting this in your profile while actually online is a whole different story.
I'm getting pretty tired of Streamate.

Dear [[anoncamgirl]]:

Your profile has been rejected for the following reasons:

Your changes were rejected because
Asking for TIPS is not allowed.


Please login and access your account at
to make the necessary changes to your profile.

Thank you,
Streamate.com Streamate Support
[email protected]

There was one sentence in my profile abut tipping for requests. It got rejected. I'm very annoyed.

Streammate? More like Streamrape. I think I'll stick to videos, Skype shows, and sites that pay 50%+ who actually have a support team for their models.

anoncamgirl
05-04-2014, 07:29 PM
I understand that. Streamate is not a tipping based site, no one implied it was. I stated several things about private and it didn't give the overall impression that it was tips for performance. I can see where you are coming from, but that's simply not how it was. (:

Marina Starr
05-04-2014, 07:32 PM
Will when it end, BB?

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/
^^this is my hell
I am hooked on soccer. I notice a lot of customers love it as well. When asked what Im watching and say soccer suddenly the room turned into a sports bar.
It is soccer , lax, baseball season and many others as well. My customers love soccer.

temptingmodel
05-04-2014, 07:40 PM
We deal a finicky support team.
Once a model was "punished" for asking for more tips during the actual gold show. I cant remember what the deal was , if the stream was cut or she was suspended? I really don't remember but I do recall she was in the hot seat for asking more $$ which made zero sense considering it was a GOLD show.
I understand that. Streamate is not a tipping based site, no one implied it was. I stated several things about private and it didn't give the overall impression that it was tips for performance. I can see where you are coming from, but that's simply not how it was. (:
^^ The same, I know where you are coming from bc I would do it as well not knowing .
I have had my profile rejected for wording.
I forgot what they told me.

temptingmodel
05-04-2014, 07:41 PM
Will when it end, BB?

the schedule

Marina Starr
05-04-2014, 08:23 PM
You mean the struggle?
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/Xtina-cry_zpsda35da91.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/Xtina-cry_zpsda35da91.gif.html)

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/scoreboard/
the schedule

GracieBlue
05-04-2014, 08:30 PM
37438


You mean the struggle?
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/Xtina-cry_zpsda35da91.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/Xtina-cry_zpsda35da91.gif.html)

temptingmodel
05-04-2014, 08:32 PM
luckily its in summer when it sucks to cam :)

GracieBlue
05-04-2014, 08:34 PM
This how I feel about SM this week! But It will get better!37440

Marina Starr
05-04-2014, 08:34 PM
Dearest SM,
no matter how much I'll make this week. I will still look drop dead WHOREGEOUS!
http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac31/L-a-d-y-L-i-k-e/Graphics/ego.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/L-a-d-y-L-i-k-e/media/Graphics/ego.gif.html)
Yours truly,
Unverified camgirl

Marina Starr
05-04-2014, 08:37 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/k32kd2_zps6ab6701f.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/k32kd2_zps6ab6701f.gif.html)

This how I feel about SM this week! But It will get better!37440

justanothercamgirl
05-05-2014, 05:41 AM
Dear [[anoncamgirl]]:

Your profile has been rejected for the following reasons:

Your changes were rejected because
Asking for TIPS is not allowed.

Streammate? More like Streamrape. I think I'll stick to videos, Skype shows, and sites that pay 50%+ who actually have a support team for their models.

Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot!

http://media.giphy.com/media/hpImn7o4LKZLG/giphy.gif

We aren't allowed to ask for tips now? Are you fucking kidding me?

AliceFun
05-05-2014, 06:09 AM
^^^ I really dont get this, how can they give such an answer when SM is all about GOLD - Gold shows so TIPS now a days? Means u cant ask for more gold than the buy in for a gold show for example? How about models asking for gold when they sell their pics/ vids sets? How about telling a member while in pvt that if he enjoyed the show he can give some gold as an appreciation for the service he received? It does not make sense to me, anoncamgirl, can u tell us what u wrote there in ur profile that made them reject it? not the exact wording but the idea.

deadboys
05-05-2014, 06:36 AM
Hey ladies! I'm new to camming, I found this forum just a little bit after I started. I wish I had found it first(I used a license with my actual address when I actually have a valid license with the wrong address! Oh well, live and learn.). Anyway, I've got a question! Is it possible for custies to delete tags that they put down for you? I had a tag that said, "I love her" but it magically vanished yesterday when I looked at my profile! Sucks, I only had two tags and now I'm back to one haha.

SoloDesire
05-05-2014, 06:38 AM
^ Yes, they can remove the tags after they post them...also, if their account is removed the tag will disappear as well.

AliceFun
05-05-2014, 06:39 AM
Welcome! yes they can delete the tags unfortunately.

deadboys
05-05-2014, 06:50 AM
^ Yes, they can remove the tags after they post them...also, if their account is removed the tag will disappear as well.

Yeah that's what I thought, I guess whoever it was doesn't love me anymore, haha. :brokenhea Thanks for the warm welcome Alice!