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BlkSharpie
10-29-2012, 05:31 PM
Okay, I have a question about camming without sound...

I searched but cam and streamate and sound brought up tons of threads
that had nothing to do w my q, so hope it hasnt been asked too recently!!

I want to start camming at night, but have to do it w/o sound.
Does this severely affect being able to get any privates??

Also, is there an easy way from the encoder to shut off my mic?
Any other tips to share that might help me out?

Thank you!!

Your Evil Twin
10-29-2012, 05:33 PM
The guys who go into free chat, trying to be slick by asking models to describe the first time they had sex, and to go into descriptive detail about blah, blah, blah.....SMH. They need to just stop trying to get free sexy/dirty talk in free chat, and either go private or call a phone sex operator. This is just another example of how some guys abuse free chat.


I am new and I am beginning to figure this out. Honestly after a guy goes on talking and asking questions for "too-long", it becomes obvious to me that he is planning on getting off in the free chat. I have been wondering what to do with these guys. Honestly my best barometer is my level of frustration, these guys have become annoying to me so I am just going to ask them if they would like to go private where I can really indulge their fantasies and then if that doesn't go well I will just go ahead and ban them. I had been ignoring them but they seem to encourage bad behavior in others.

Marina Starr
10-29-2012, 05:34 PM
I cam without sound at night because I have a roommate and I have no problem getting privates. When you open the FlashMediaLiveEncoder, just drag the audio all the way to the left for no audio.


Okay, I have a question about camming without sound...

I searched but cam and streamate and sound brought up tons of threads
that had nothing to do w my q, so hope it hasnt been asked too recently!!

I want to start camming at night, but have to do it w/o sound.
Does this severely affect being able to get any privates??

Also, is there an easy way from the encoder to shut off my mic?
Any other tips to share that might help me out?

Thank you!!

BlkSharpie
10-29-2012, 06:38 PM
Excellent and good to know...thanks Marina!!!!

PrettiPeach
10-29-2012, 06:41 PM
I am having to start from the basics with camming. All over start. It sucks major ass. I have been feeling awful about getting on. My rate hikes are not working for me. I feel so blah at the moment because I'm tired of not earning what I need to survive. Unlike others I have no idea what my competition charges and maybe that's the problem. I gotta do me. Even though the guys are telling me how great my personality is and how pretty I am, that isn't paying bills. #vent

Marina Starr
10-29-2012, 06:43 PM
Please watch your mood when you're on cam, custies do pick up on it and it's harder to get privates.


I am having to start from the basics with camming. All over start. It sucks major ass. I have been feeling awful about getting on. My rate hikes are not working for me. I feel so blah at the moment because I'm tired of not earning what I need to survive. Unlike others I have no idea what my competition charges and maybe that's the problem. I gotta do me. #vent

PrettiPeach
10-29-2012, 06:45 PM
No chica. I'm naturally bubbly. No sullen, sorry Sue here. Also no fake smiling looks or anything like that. I'm truly puzzled.

Missbeth
10-30-2012, 09:34 AM
I am having to start from the basics with camming. All over start. It sucks major ass. I have been feeling awful about getting on. My rate hikes are not working for me. I feel so blah at the moment because I'm tired of not earning what I need to survive. Unlike others I have no idea what my competition charges and maybe that's the problem. I gotta do me. Even though the guys are telling me how great my personality is and how pretty I am, that isn't paying bills. #vent

I know this is going to be an unpopular suggestion but maybe try lowering your prices a little to encourage more privates? When I started I did well at $3.99/$4.99 which many girls on here consider low and I wouldnt recommend lowering them lower than that. I mean shucks Im only at $4.99/$5.99 right now and do fine....
Try not to show too much in free chat so they're forced to take you to private to see something good.
Also you may want to check your internet speed....when I first started I would sometimes go A LONG time without anyone in my room and then finally I realized my internet connection wasn't as stellar as I thought an I kept losing my HD icon which would boot me pages back into no mans land.
Eventually you'll find the outfits, mood, and things that work for you, for some girls it just takes more trial and error.
Also I agree with Marina watch your mood, even if you think you are looking happy they can still somehow pick up on "forced happiness" at least with me but then again I've never been a good actor lol.
I read on another forum that you get out of Streamate as much as you put into it which I believe is true, more true for SM than say a site like MFC. Work hard, get good ratings, improve your internet speed/computer speed and you CAN make it to the first page/first spot which in theory should improve your earnings.

ExoticBeauty4U
10-30-2012, 11:14 AM
I do better camming without sound! When I had a roommate I had no choice but to cam without sound, but now that I live alone I still do the no sound thing. This way Im able to listen to music, watch tv, or splitcam without turning anyone off. Honestly, I think my voice just isnt that sexy and maybe turns men off lol not sure. But ive experimented with both and i make more camming without sound but only on streamate. I do offer sound in pvt which Ive told plenty of guys who would say ok and go pvt. Works for me:) As far as the encoder I dont use it just too much work and Im lazy plus I like to splitcam.

MissAdriana
10-30-2012, 05:44 PM
I've done a search on here but couldn't come up with anything.. Can you block someone after they've left your room? I'm not used to the name going to the top of the list yet so I'm usually too slow to click the ban button grrr

volatileghost
10-30-2012, 05:47 PM
Miss Adriana, I read previously that no, you cant block them unless they're in your room and SM wont help you out with it either :/

Missbeth
10-30-2012, 06:54 PM
Miss Adriana, I read previously that no, you cant block them unless they're in your room and SM wont help you out with it either :/
I really wish they would...I have many 30 sec peeper offenders who ONLY pop in my room when I'm in private because I'm on thier favorites or whatever....even if I stop what I'm doing in the middle of a private I can't manage to ban them.

TheBrownFox
10-30-2012, 09:57 PM
I am new and I am beginning to figure this out. Honestly after a guy goes on talking and asking questions for "too-long", it becomes obvious to me that he is planning on getting off in the free chat. I have been wondering what to do with these guys. Honestly my best barometer is my level of frustration, these guys have become annoying to me so I am just going to ask them if they would like to go private where I can really indulge their fantasies and then if that doesn't go well I will just go ahead and ban them. I had been ignoring them but they seem to encourage bad behavior in others.


Sorry that I'm just now responding. I lost my power due to Hurricane Sandy, so I haven't been online.

I've read that guys act more trollish and idiotic in party chat than in classic chat, since Party Chat is where they can see what others have typed. I think the guys asking you tons of questions (as if they're interviewing you or something) would probably eventually leave if you ignore them? I'm not sure. The guys on ImLive who like to waste time in free text chat always leave when I tell them "I'd LOVE to tell you all about it in private." LOL.

Your Evil Twin
10-30-2012, 10:37 PM
Sorry that I'm just now responding. I lost my power due to Hurricane Sandy, so I haven't been online.

I've read that guys act more trollish and idiotic in party chat than in classic chat, since Party Chat is where they can see what others have typed. I think the guys asking you tons of questions (as if they're interviewing you or something) would probably eventually leave if you ignore them? I'm not sure. The guys on ImLive who like to waste time in free text chat always leave when I tell them "I'd LOVE to tell you all about it in private." LOL.


I have no idea what the difference between classic and party chat is. I assume that in party chat (based on your post) that it = cheapies can read what other cheapies are saying. But apparently (based on the information you provided) I get the idea that Classic Chat is when the cheapos can't read what other cheapos are saying. Perhaps that is why I haven't really had many problems. I did mention in my free chat (one time) that I had banned someone. But no one ever seemed to notice previously. Although I do remember people asking other people to tip me. That is the ultimate cheapie, someone who won't tip but will ask someone else to. I have mine set on Classic Chat and I only allow customers with credit cards access to my chatroom. I have had it set that way since I learned I could set it that way.

Orchidina
10-31-2012, 01:05 AM
i'm sure some of this has to do with the recent hurricane...but still i am getting almost NO traffic in my room. i mean seriously crickets.

i use the encoder, audio, i engage people (when they come in), i'm friendly, i check to make sure i have the HD icon over my profile in a separate browser..and i'm usually on the 1st or 2nd page.

so why am i suddenly no-man's land?

i checked around to a few other models and they seemed to at least have people in there chatting and some were even in private.

This has so far been my worst week ever.

Any thoughts or suggestions ladies?

GracieBlue
10-31-2012, 08:20 AM
Orchidina, I think it's the hurricane too, possibly. Placement is odd too, there are tons of new girls or at least ones I haven't seen before.


It will get better! Stay positive! It will get better! Stay positive!It will get better! Stay positive! It will get better! Stay positive! It will get better! Stay positive!

:)

Marina Starr
10-31-2012, 08:36 AM
That's right! I'm online now and I have guys popping in and out, and no privates yet. Tons of freeloaders, lol!


Orchidina, I think it's the hurricane too, possibly. Placement is odd too, there are tons of new girls or at least ones I haven't seen before.


It will get better! Stay positive! It will get better! Stay positive!It will get better! Stay positive! It will get better! Stay positive! It will get better! Stay positive!

:)

ManyRoses
10-31-2012, 12:02 PM
I think this week has been hard hit!

The storm, power outages and all that related stuff...then there is the usual end-of-the-month brokeness....and on top of that, it is halloween! So everyone is spending their money on costumes and going out partying - and in my area at least, the clubs are full to bursting with women dressed in Leg Avenue "costumes" getting white-girl wasted and going home with anyone who will buy them a skittle shot. Bad time to make money...

ManyRoses
10-31-2012, 12:11 PM
The Party/Classic chat thing...

Your Evil Twin - you have it right, in classic chat, the guys can't see what other people are typing, while in party chat, they can.

Honestly, I prefer party chat. I don't actually see an increase in freeloaders at all.....but I DO see a decrease in guys asking for the truly sick stuff (no one wants to ask you to pretend to be a five year old, a dog-fucker, or to eat your own shit if they know that 20 other guys will "hear" them and make fun of them!), and I also see guys policing each other - my regs will take down anyone that decides to be rude, or will tell them that that isn't ok. Awesome. (But I do also run a seriously tight ship when it comes to disrespect..)

Classic chat drove me bonkers because the guys would be totally confused whenever I was answering another person's question...they couldn't see it asked, so my conversations always ended up sounding like this:

Me: Yes, I DO do anal! Just come on into pvt!
BigDick: I don't like anal.
Me: Well, BigDick, I also do LOTS of other things - what are you in the mood for?
GiantCock: I'm in the mood for anal...that's why I asked about it. Toys?
Me: I DO have toys! Dildos for every hole!!
14incher: Why are you talking about dildos? I was typing about music...

Pull. Hair. Out. Now.

Or you end up talking like a pre-school tv host - repeating names and questions over and over again..."BigDick asked if I take it up the ass. Great question BigDick! Yes I DO take it up the ass! Does anyone else want to know where I take it?"

GAAAAAHHHHHHH

TheBrownFox
10-31-2012, 12:31 PM
I assume that in party chat (based on your post) that it = cheapies can read what other cheapies are saying.


Yes, that's what I said in my previous post...correct. :) I'll probably be using Classic Chat for a few different reasons...one of them being that sometimes members blurt out shit that other members don't need to see. I'm gonna try it out and see if I prefer Classic Chat over Party Chat.

GracieBlue
10-31-2012, 12:38 PM
Manyroses, you are so cute!

TheBrownFox
10-31-2012, 12:49 PM
If you broadcast on SM and you DON'T mention the word 'Twitter', however you keep your Twitter screen name on a on dry erase board behind you, could you get away with that, or still be suspended? I'm not talking about putting 'Twitter: yummybrownfox' on the board. I'm talking about writing ONLY 'yummybrownfox' on the board. Then when guys ask about it, just say "It's so you guys can follow me." LOL. Anyone who is a member of Twitter should know that 'follow me' is referring to Twitter.

xxtinamariexx
10-31-2012, 01:00 PM
I've only done Classic Chat, never did party, maybe I will switch it up and see how it goes, I try to address everyone by name when in classic, and repeating the question so others hear. but then when I get that one person that doesn't have sound, it throws me all off, because then I have to type to him, I typing in chat for me seems slow, then I can't see what others are writing if I just sent it to that user as a private message.. gets me all messed up

Missbeth
10-31-2012, 01:27 PM
For me I get like no privates when I do party chat...its the weirdest thing....
The only time I ever do party cheat is when Im about to do a gold show and I have to log out and start up in party chat.
It SOO annoying that we have to log in and out when we want to switch up chat modes, I wish we could just switch them while we are streaming.

ManyRoses
10-31-2012, 01:37 PM
If you broadcast on SM and you DON'T mention the word 'Twitter', however you keep your Twitter screen name on a on dry erase board behind you, could you get away with that, or still be suspended? I'm not talking about putting 'Twitter: yummybrownfox' on the board. I'm talking about writing ONLY 'yummybrownfox' on the board. Then when guys ask about it, just say "It's so you guys can follow me." LOL. Anyone who is a member of Twitter should know that 'follow me' is referring to Twitter.

I know that a certain camgirl got suspended for having stuff on a dry-erase board behind her, but she DID have the words "twitter" and "facebook" on there, not just the names.

She was suspended because another camgirl reported her as breaking the rules - I feel like if you did it, and someone took a dislike to you and chose to report you, you could still get a suspension......I'm not sure that I would risk it.

kinkydirtybitch
11-01-2012, 12:03 AM
32150

I have my twitter username & porn name behind me at all times but no mention of twitter of course

No problems so far!

Your Evil Twin
11-01-2012, 10:43 PM
Ok if Party Chat means potential customers can see what one another is texting and if Classic Chat means that potential customers cannot read what other potential customers are texting then why do some of these potential customers insist on sending me Private Messages in Classic Chat (if no one besides me can read what they are typing anyway)? For the longest time I didn't even know what the flashing yellow icon meant but clicking on those private messages and keeping track of the Classic Chat can be a pain in the arse.

Cam_Model_Jess
11-02-2012, 12:24 AM
If you're in classic chat, customers can't send you "private" messages. I mean, you can click on the customer's name to send a message to only him. And the customer can click or un-click the "eye" icon which determines whether or not he's visible to the others in the room who are signed in. The "eye" icon was there before Party Chat even existed. If you're wondering why they're sending you e-mails (IDK if that's what you mean by "private messages"), it's b/c they want the individual attention. Unfortunately SM does not charge customers for sending you e-mails. I mostly ignore them or just respond politely, but I would never answer e-mails while streaming.

I was running a gold show one time that was voyeur so there were only a few guys. And one guy was telling me what he wanted to do to me... and the other dude was like "dude, make yourself invisible. i don't wanna read that."

LilyRaye
11-02-2012, 06:17 PM
Hey ladies!
I just started on SM a couple weeks ago and was gonna post something about how to get rid of the 'trolls' who just hang out. All the time...haha. I see that's already been addressed though ;)
I've been playing around with Party Chat versus Classic and seem to get more 'privates' from Classic. Who knows though...this week has been a buzzkill/slowww. Anyway--thought I'd introduce myself and you've all been a wealth of helpful info for this newbie. Here's to making some $$$ online tonight hopefully!!

Marina Starr
11-02-2012, 06:20 PM
You're there to make money and your time is valuable so it's not the place to hang out. If they won't take your private/exclusive or even tip, then by all means kick or block their asses.


Hey ladies!
I just started on SM a couple weeks ago and was gonna post something about how to get rid of the 'trolls' who just hang out. All the time...haha. I see that's already been addressed though ;)
I've been playing around with Party Chat versus Classic and seem to get more 'privates' from Classic. Who knows though...this week has been a buzzkill/slowww. Anyway--thought I'd introduce myself and you've all been a wealth of helpful info for this newbie. Here's to making some $$$ online tonight hopefully!!

LilyRaye
11-02-2012, 06:27 PM
Yep. Tonight the blocking will begin...

You're there to make money and your time is valuable so it's not the place to hang out. If they won't take your private/exclusive or even tip, then by all means kick or block their asses.

Marina Starr
11-02-2012, 06:29 PM
I usually only use block for third time offenders. Usually kicking will do the trick and that also let them have a chance to cum back in and take you private or exclusive.


Yep. Tonight the blocking will begin...

LilyRaye
11-02-2012, 06:32 PM
How does one 'kick' exactly? I suppose I could find it somewhere on SM...but since you're here...

Marina Starr
11-02-2012, 06:33 PM
It's next to the block icon.


How does one 'kick' exactly? I suppose I could find it somewhere on SM...but since you're here...

LilyRaye
11-02-2012, 06:35 PM
Aha! Cool. Thanks for thee tip!

Your Evil Twin
11-02-2012, 06:36 PM
If you're in classic chat, customers can't send you "private" messages. I mean, you can click on the customer's name to send a message to only him. And the customer can click or un-click the "eye" icon which determines whether or not he's visible to the others in the room who are signed in. The "eye" icon was there before Party Chat even existed. If you're wondering why they're sending you e-mails (IDK if that's what you mean by "private messages"), it's b/c they want the individual attention. Unfortunately SM does not charge customers for sending you e-mails. I mostly ignore them or just respond politely, but I would never answer e-mails while streaming.

I was running a gold show one time that was voyeur so there were only a few guys. And one guy was telling me what he wanted to do to me... and the other dude was like "dude, make yourself invisible. i don't wanna read that."

thank you for the reply, I guess I am confused. Maybe the software reverts to party chat or something occasionally? All I know is that sometimes I get these blinking yellow icons next to a customer's name which when I click on them they have some private chat or message they are sending and then after clicking on it I have to find the link for the main chat room.

Your Evil Twin
11-02-2012, 06:39 PM
It's next to the block icon.

Seems obvious but I have to admit I have never noticed it :shocking:

Cam_Model_Jess
11-02-2012, 06:40 PM
That's really strange. I've never had that happen. I mean, I've seen the blinking notes. That just means that you're clicked on one user and another is typing. But I've never had something divert me away from the chat.

Your Evil Twin
11-03-2012, 08:05 AM
That's really strange. I've never had that happen. I mean, I've seen the blinking notes. That just means that you're clicked on one user and another is typing. But I've never had something divert me away from the chat.

I made a note to pay more attention next time and figure out what is going on. I think you are amazing because you are able to multi task while camming whereas I feel the pressure and get rattled easily and tend to have tunnel vision because I am stressing out watching myself in the cam to make sure I look good and trying to greet anyone who comes into the chat and return messages O_o . So I have a homework assignment and I will get back with you on this.

Pippi_Hicks
11-03-2012, 12:27 PM
thank you for the reply, I guess I am confused. Maybe the software reverts to party chat or something occasionally? All I know is that sometimes I get these blinking yellow icons next to a customer's name which when I click on them they have some private chat or message they are sending and then after clicking on it I have to find the link for the main chat room.

My understanding of it is the same as what Cam_Model_Jess wrote.

If you click on one member's name (to either block them, or kick them, or bring up their profile), then the chat room window will change to only show what that member has typed so far and the member list on the right will only show their name. If other members type something (while you're viewing a single member's activity), their name will also appear on the right with the little yellow blinking icon (look's like a note) - but from my experience those messages are *not* private (and what you type in response is also *not* private), it's just the site letting you know that other people are typing stuff in your room. If you click on "All" at the top of the member list window then you'll see everyone's text again.

So, here's the confusing part - if you've added a note to someone's profile and they come into room you'll see the little note icon next to their name - but it won't be blinking/flashing. The little note icon will also show up in the situation that I described above - and that's when it will be blinking/flashing.

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The site should not switch you between Classic and Party chat on its own. I've only tried party chat once (I prefer Classic right now and can't do Gold shows yet anyways), but from what I've read you have to actually stop your show to change between one or the other.

Cam_Model_Jess
11-03-2012, 02:21 PM
So, here's the confusing part - if you've added a note to someone's profile and they come into room you'll see the little note icon next to their name - but it won't be blinking/flashing. The little note icon will also show up in the situation that I described above - and that's when it will be blinking/flashing.

The site should not switch you between Classic and Party chat on its own. I've only tried party chat once (I prefer Classic right now and can't do Gold shows yet anyways), but from what I've read you have to actually stop your show to change between one or the other.

The flashing note icon is to the left of the person's name and looks like yellow piece of paper. That indicates someone typing. The steady note icon the the RIGHT of the person's name indicates a note on their account (that you've put there). I am a visual person, so knowing the the one to the right means I need to look at their account, and the one to the left means just click on the name to see what they're typing, helps save me a lot of time.

You're right, you cannot switch between classic and party w/o stopping your stream. The site won't just switch you back and forth. However, if you clear your browser, it will automatically reset all of your settings. Mine defaults to classic when my browser is cleared. To re-enter settings, click on your main profile page, then Start My Show -> Settings tab (upper left corner) -> User Settings -> Default chat type mode

Pippi_Hicks
11-03-2012, 02:34 PM
The flashing note icon is to the left of the person's name and looks like yellow piece of paper. That indicates someone typing. The steady note icon the the RIGHT of the person's name indicates a note on their account (that you've put there). I am a visual person, so knowing the the one to the right means I need to look at their account, and the one to the left means just click on the name to see what they're typing, helps save me a lot of time.


Thank you! I was trying to picture it in my head but I've only been on the site a couple months. That makes a lot more sense that the icons show up on different sides of their names.

Your Evil Twin
11-03-2012, 07:06 PM
My understanding of it is the same as what Cam_Model_Jess wrote.

If you click on one member's name (to either block them, or kick them, or bring up their profile), then the chat room window will change to only show what that member has typed so far and the member list on the right will only show their name. If other members type something (while you're viewing a single member's activity), their name will also appear on the right with the little yellow blinking icon (look's like a note) - but from my experience those messages are *not* private (and what you type in response is also *not* private), it's just the site letting you know that other people are typing stuff in your room. If you click on "All" at the top of the member list window then you'll see everyone's text again.

So, here's the confusing part - if you've added a note to someone's profile and they come into room you'll see the little note icon next to their name - but it won't be blinking/flashing. The little note icon will also show up in the situation that I described above - and that's when it will be blinking/flashing.

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The site should not switch you between Classic and Party chat on its own. I've only tried party chat once (I prefer Classic right now and can't do Gold shows yet anyways), but from what I've read you have to actually stop your show to change between one or the other.


Yes, this all sounds right to me.

Thank you Pippi-Hicks and thank you Cam_Model_Jess

CammiStar
11-04-2012, 03:38 AM
Hey Ladies! Have any of you guys had issues with members going into premium chat, but then noticing on your earnings page that they were charged your exclusive rate? Tonight I had a member who went into Premium chat and was charged for an exclusive on my earnings page. I grabbed screen shots of it showing other members coming in and out of the premium chat while he was in there with me. I always am very aware when someone goes into premium since i have it bumped up so high...

My premium chat rate is $12.99 and my Exclusive $7.99, so this is a $5 per minute difference and he was in premium chat for nearly 5 minutes. I sent a message to support, but was just wondering if this has happened to anyone else...

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h0ttie
11-04-2012, 04:29 AM
^ wow cammi that is weird.
i had some glitches tonight 2 exclusives made no noise when the pop up came up..and one where the accept box literally blinked..and then i was in exclusive. i wasnt even touching a keyboard or mouse to have hit enter or something and make it hit accept.
maybe they are messing with something and its causing it to act up.

CammiStar
11-04-2012, 04:48 AM
Yeah, something that is really odd is that after the private I checked my earnings and it was charged at 12.99 and the first guy that popped in peeped for 38 seconds and was charged. then during a break I checked again and noticed that the peeper was not longer charged and the guy was at 7.99 a minute...thats a pretty big glitch to have.....

caitir
11-05-2012, 07:02 PM
P.S.
Support just told me that, to get to the first page and to get Gold Shows, you have to meet the requirements they posted AND be on CONSISTENTLY.
No clue what "consistent" means- I'm on a few times a week and still don't have Gold Shows, so I'm assuming it has to be really regular day-to-day.

xxtinamariexx
11-06-2012, 03:23 PM
Hey guys two questions, When I signed into SM today I had an email from a user saying he saw my ad?? not sure what ad as I don't have any out there. but said he was the owner of ntimatedesires and was giving a promo Order in November and get 15% off your next purchase and a FREE GIFT, trying to get business... Is this normal for this to happen, and do I need to respond so I don't get into some sort of trouble with SM?

My 2nd question, I know that SM has to approve a members comments, but how long does it take, I couldn't find anything on here

Thanks!!

annabellz
11-06-2012, 07:01 PM
^If a member sent you spam to your model email on SM you should report him for spamming. (but it definitely sounds like something new, not many people would have the nerve to spam like that lol- Im sure SM will have them off the site asap)

Member comments take a while to be approved, so give it a day or two before you panic.

Pippi_Hicks
11-06-2012, 07:57 PM
My 2nd question, I know that SM has to approve a members comments, but how long does it take, I couldn't find anything on here


Member comments take a while to be approved, so give it a day or two before you panic.

I can't recall which thread it was, but I remember reading that it can easily take a month or two. And based on my experience so far that's pretty accurate... unfortunately.