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SoloDesire
07-31-2014, 11:24 AM
I'm just really glad I branched out and started putting more eggs in my basket! SM has been pretty bad for me lately and if I was depending on it alone for my income I would be in a really bad place. I usually have one or two really good days on SM a week, and all of the other days are horribly slow.
Split cam ladies! Branch out and get seen elsewhere, because the days of depending on SM alone are flying out the window for the majority of us.

SarahTime
07-31-2014, 12:06 PM
has anyone else noticed sm has a bunch of new customers? I've had a lot of guys this week tell me they're new to sm and they actually spent money. One guy told me he saw my pic in an ad somewhere so he joined kinda scary bc someone I know might see. Traffic isn't anything out of the ordinary but wherever they're getting these new customers from they should keep it up. It seems like most people who have gone to pvt with me is either a regular or someone who is entirely new to sm.

I've noticed a ton of new guys too. I have to explain to them how the site even works... they don't know how to do gold shows or even what happens if they enter private chat. Several have spent money, but it gets tedious explaining over and over that they have to enter private chat to see anything.

SophiaSylvan
07-31-2014, 12:25 PM
Wonderful that the top referring site is that stupid thefreecamsecret.com crap.

It's absurd, the only good thing about it is the guy's sexy voice. "Thousands of girls, waiting to do absolutely anything you tell them to, for free!"

Issabelle
07-31-2014, 12:27 PM
I've also noticed the new guys. Honestly, I initially thought they were just assholes trying to scam me into showing off for free because they're 'new.' Lo and behold, they actually paid in. Wherever the traffic is coming from, it's paying and I'm happy!

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 01:13 PM
Who cares about the top referring site, its marketing.
New customers, new money, brings fatter checks every week
I am one that stays naked bc I can in free chat,I can be naked all day and not reveal a thing.
I also mind my business, helps my attitude and my earnings

MiaFaye
07-31-2014, 02:17 PM
About to do my first shift on Streamate. So bloody nervous having ready the last few pages of everyone complaining about it, haha!

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 02:51 PM
About to do my first shift on Streamate. So bloody nervous having ready the last few pages of everyone complaining about it, haha!
look for the tips and tricks,
you may have to go through pages of rants but there is good info, dont read the negative
if you have any questions, ask ppl that dont complain.

negative feeds negative :)
rev up your cam and blow those loads as much as you can

justanothercamgirl
07-31-2014, 03:25 PM
negative feeds negative :)
rev up your cam and blow those loads as much as you can

I read the negative, I just never absorb it since I am a lover of pure logic.

Seforasweet
07-31-2014, 03:55 PM
Wonderful that the top referring site is that stupid thefreecamsecret.com crap.

I can't believe this shit! i want to kick all the guys who do this in the testis then rip them off.... RAWR! okay, rage over.

Seforasweet
07-31-2014, 03:58 PM
Wonderful that the top referring site is that stupid thefreecamsecret.com crap.

I can't believe this sh*:bomb:t! i want to kick all the guys who do this in the testis then rip them off.... RAWR!:bomb: okay, rage over. :)

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 04:12 PM
its a certain zodiac trait :D
I read the negative, I just never absorb it since I am a lover of pure logic.

JaneBurgess
07-31-2014, 04:27 PM
You're supposed to market to your target audience and your target audience shouldn't be anyone wanting freebies. I don't think the new customers are from that site tho because that site has been around for at least a year.

While I do agree that no one should play cam police, I do think it's normal to care about a site and the changes it goes through. I also think people are venting when they talk about things and venting is healthy.


Who cares about the top referring site, its marketing.
New customers, new money, brings fatter checks every week
I am one that stays naked bc I can in free chat,I can be naked all day and not reveal a thing.
I also mind my business, helps my attitude and my earnings

Naiad
07-31-2014, 06:32 PM
I'm pretty sure new favorites aren't showing up.

Agreed. I was on for a while and it didn't budge, which is strange.

HOTAnastasia4U
07-31-2014, 06:35 PM
Agreed. I was on for a while and it didn't budge, which is strange.

Apparently the favorites are not showing Live anymore, they push an update once a day, here is why you don't see it.

justanothercamgirl
07-31-2014, 07:21 PM
its a certain zodiac trait :D

http://media.giphy.com/media/LiWJHLKA3WPT2/giphy.gif

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 07:46 PM
That site has been around foreverrrrr. Two years ago it was spoken about on sw. Its a bait site.

You're supposed to market to your target audience and your target audience shouldn't be anyone wanting freebies. I don't think the new customers are from that site tho because that site has been around for at least a year.

While I do agree that no one should play cam police, I do think it's normal to care about a site and the changes it goes through. I also think people are venting when they talk about things and venting is healthy.

There is a vent thread but that has been pointed out numerous times.
Cam police= not streamates best friends. I learned that not from me policing but other models policing and seeing the results. Not good.

While the target audience is not seeking freebies, reality is there are freeloaders and I have converted into paying customers, if not privates, I can count on a gold show buy in. Some will man up and admit they simply cant afford either at the time, just wanted to say hi, prob wanking.
I know my audience is a lot of hard working blue collar men. I know they are pervs. I know they will pay.

I have issues making money is when I am a complete bitch, not many ppl can wank to a pissed off chick, usually its my personal life, I log off, look at earnings and a complete bitch can still make money, not use toys until her demands are met and the guys in GS understand.

I have been having encoder issues.

My sheets have a sheen. It popped in my head tonight as I was looking down at them. I looked backup and my encoder was whack. Customers telling me to hold on and not stop the show until streamate stopped the show. Luckily it was the last 2 minutes. Holding breathe. Made it!
logged off/ back on, threw a quilt over everything, now my feed appeared darker but there was no reflecting back to the cam. I hld a stream for a second go round. The encode has been giving me issues this week. This week I used those sheets.

not to mention I made through a gold show w a tornado touching down out of the blue. fun fun fun

sweetgapeach
07-31-2014, 08:14 PM
I have been having encoder issues.

My sheets have a sheen.

^^Me too....you think too much bronzer would do it? Lol! Really though....that's the only thing shining and having MAJOR encoder issues. Comcast has been out three times already.

JaneBurgess
07-31-2014, 08:16 PM
I knew that site has been around for a while. I remember someone posting about it and all hell breaking loose about it.

I don't see the need for performers to police each other. Granted it's annoying when people break rules but if the site has an issue they will handle it. It just stresses out the performers who police the sites and I hate that some of the post images on a blog. If you have a problem with someone you should talk to them directly, not attack them on social media.

I hate freeloaders, not the ones you have to encourage to buy shows but the ones that you know will never pay a dime. Is there a monthly membership to be a member of Streamate? I would think if they had to pay a small fee to be a member the freeloading would be cut by at least 40 percent. I have no issue with anyone not paying as long as they are polite and not harassing. I think Gold shows are a good solution for people that can't pay the higher per minute rate. I do however wish they would put rules on GS like you must charge at least a buck a minute. Then customers can't complain about rates and cam performers can charge a fair rate and not feel they have to charge a cheap rate just to make some money. I see cam performers upset on sites saying $0 Gold shows are killing the site. I don't know if it's killing the site but I can see how that would effect the income of performers.

I personally dont really do them once I found they are recorded and used on sites for promotional use. It doesn't make sense to me to post full length video's for free. It makes more sense to do a sixty second clip and make them want to see more. I also don't see the point in doing the tv shows either. Sure you get paid a rate but you aren't getting a dime off the tv channel. I think more performers would do them if they were paid 50 percent of all their shows and tips. I'm all about performers getting a fair rate and hoping to see changes that help both performer and cam site grow and make bank.



That site has been around foreverrrrr. Two years ago it was spoken about on sw. Its a bait site.


There is a vent thread but that has been pointed out numerous times.
Cam police= not streamates best friends. I learned that not from me policing but other models policing and seeing the results. Not good.

While the target audience is not seeking freebies, reality is there are freeloaders and I have converted into paying customers, if not privates, I can count on a gold show buy in. Some will man up and admit they simply cant afford either at the time, just wanted to say hi, prob wanking.
I know my audience is a lot of hard working blue collar men. I know they are pervs. I know they will pay.

I have issues making money is when I am a complete bitch, not many ppl can wank to a pissed off chick, usually its my personal life, I log off, look at earnings and a complete bitch can still make money, not use toys until her demands are met and the guys in GS understand.

I have been having encoder issues.

My sheets have a sheen. It popped in my head tonight as I was looking down at them. I looked backup and my encoder was whack. Customers telling me to hold on and not stop the show until streamate stopped the show. Luckily it was the last 2 minutes. Holding breathe. Made it!
logged off/ back on, threw a quilt over everything, now my feed appeared darker but there was no reflecting back to the cam. I hld a stream for a second go round. The encode has been giving me issues this week. This week I used those sheets.

not to mention I made through a gold show w a tornado touching down out of the blue. fun fun fun

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 08:45 PM
I knew that site has been around for a while. I remember someone posting about it and all hell breaking loose about it.

I don't see the need for performers to police each other. Granted it's annoying when people break rules but if the site has an issue they will handle it. It just stresses out the performers who police the sites and I hate that some of the post images on a blog. If you have a problem with someone you should talk to them directly, not attack them on social media.

I hate freeloaders, not the ones you have to encourage to buy shows but the ones that you know will never pay a dime. Is there a monthly membership to be a member of Streamate? I would think if they had to pay a small fee to be a member the freeloading would be cut by at least 40 percent. I have no issue with anyone not paying as long as they are polite and not harassing. I think Gold shows are a good solution for people that can't pay the higher per minute rate. I do however wish they would put rules on GS like you must charge at least a buck a minute. Then customers can't complain about rates and cam performers can charge a fair rate and not feel they have to charge a cheap rate just to make some money. I see cam performers upset on sites saying $0 Gold shows are killing the site. I don't know if it's killing the site but I can see how that would effect the income of performers.

I personally dont really do them once I found they are recorded and used on sites for promotional use. It doesn't make sense to me to post full length video's for free. It makes more sense to do a sixty second clip and make them want to see more. I also don't see the point in doing the tv shows either. Sure you get paid a rate but you aren't getting a dime off the tv channel. I think more performers would do them if they were paid 50 percent of all their shows and tips. I'm all about performers getting a fair rate and hoping to see changes that help both performer and cam site grow and make bank.

IDK where the shows are placed, use them for ads but when the person clicks on it, they are prompted to sign up. I think with this guy when the person signs up they are making a sm account not signing up to learn how to record. I could be wrong. FREE SHOWS SIGN UP HERE and they have a member account and now lost in the head. Starts watching the cams and buys shows. Bait site.
The bait site is not a lie, free cams is free chat, enjoy the free chat until that model does her job.
I have only seen pirated gold shows go full length. Nothing SM did.

Where streamate gives us a "fair trade" in their eyes,
the cammodels links. I do love logging and seeing I didn't perform one show with a good amount of money in my earnings. I note that member as a sign up, when he enters my room I look at the note and kiss all ass. Hes making me money if he buys a show from me or not.
We do not have charge backs, completely awesome. Performers are the only ones that do not see these charge backs. Others studios, marketers see the charge backs.
We have ample amount of customers, esp when 1600 models are online and still making money.

other sites offer us incentives but its only for a short period with new sign ups and charge backs are 98% of the time implemented.
MFC is the only one I know of that has good traffic but freeloaders galore.
They can be silenced but still watch the performer.
MFC offers more off site contacts as SM does not. I like that about sm. I feel safe and customers know they cant, they can talk the talk all day.

We are the performers but they built the playground and to be successful they cant give away everything.

They could do performers real dirty like streamray aka cams... 45% but really get 29%.. straight lie to the model until I called to find out Im being taxed on xyz bringing it down to 29% and that is the highest they pay.


Huge chunks go to affiliates, ads, TV commercials, having a behind the scenes team to forever develop something new.
SM is not getting the full % going to one man, its spread around the world from the office, camgirls, affiliates, web developers, down to the person that washes windows.
We cant have it all but we can make the best out of what we do get.

just my opinion

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 08:49 PM
^^Me too....you think too much bronzer would do it? Lol! Really though....that's the only thing shining and having MAJOR encoder issues. Comcast has been out three times already.

i have no clue about bronzer but the cam hates yellow tones, and reflections.

Through the grapevine I hear Comcast sux :(

Im thinking about switching from road runner to Uverse.... not sure bc road runner is awesome here. I do give road runner 8.5 stars until they jump on the fiber optics train.
I hear Uverse has a cap.. does anyone know if this is true? In the USA

justanothercamgirl
07-31-2014, 08:59 PM
Where streamate gives us a "fair trade" in their eyes,
the cammodels links. I do love logging and seeing I didn't perform one show with a good amount of money in my earnings. I note that member as a sign up, when he enters my room I look at the note and kiss all ass. Hes making me money if he buys a show from me or not.

This reminded me, I have a completely random question about the cammodels link I was hoping someone might have the answer too. We all know that SM has been disabling the accounts of girls who haven't streamed for a certain amount of months.

But, if they disable your account does that mean they will no longer be paying you your cammodels affiliate money? Are you forced to keep camming in order to be able to receive it?

sweetgapeach
07-31-2014, 09:07 PM
i have no clue about bronzer but the cam hates yellow tones, and reflections.

Through the grapevine I hear Comcast sux :(


Thanks for answering, my placement was better on an old dual core without bronzer, I know it cant be this newer computer. I will try it and see, painted my room orange and have a mirror-so maybe change up things. Thanks!

Gonna try for some other internet providers in my area, just only know about AT&T and my Comcast plan was supposed to be better.

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 09:14 PM
about traffic .......... and what it use to be and why it has changed so much

"In 2001, there were around 70,000 adult websites. Today, just years later, they are more than 4.2 million pornographic websites in the US alone. It does not take a math major to figure out that increase is tremendous. Either people are lying about porn or people are lying about porn."


I took that from a blog that writes about porn, online porn sites, hello camgirls, you are porn

lol most those are prob sm whitelabels (kidding)

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 09:17 PM
rid the orange!

Im thinking of going with a hint of blue, a slight tint of blue

as far as it being your computer, I would wipe everything off that came with it. Usually its junk.
Thanks for answering, my placement was better on an old dual core without bronzer, I know it cant be this newer computer. I will try it and see, painted my room orange and have a mirror-so maybe change up things. Thanks!

Gonna try for some other internet providers in my area, just only know about AT&T and my Comcast plan was supposed to be better.

JaneBurgess
07-31-2014, 09:53 PM
Streamate owns a couple different sites that do have full length cam shows on them. One is a mix of shows and the other is Gold shows only. A performer posted the link to the Gold show site a few days ago via Twitter. I'll ask her for the link and post it. I'm all for promotion but clips would be better than longer shows, leave them wanting more. The sites are free but the part that says we do what they want for free isn't true. Free chat is our domain and we do what we want in there and they pay for shows to direct. I think that could be confusing to people new to cam sites.

I do love our links and not having chargebacks. I think tips should be at least 50/50 since we are earning those from giving someone a good show. When I get a huge tip and see my part its like ahhhh. However I am grateful just to be tipped at all. I'm not saying I dont appreciate Streamate but I do think they can improve on a few things. Like I said make Gold shows a mandatory $1 a minute. It's a win for the site and performers. Let us have stores so we can sell items people want via the site. I get asked to sell panties all the time but I decline since I can't take their info to mail them to them. I would sell them via the site if I could, its money for all of us. That way video's could only be sold via the store and not given out for free with Gold shows. Once again that is money for the site and performers. I'm all about the money and we all want more money.
I would also crack down on some of those affiliates. They aren't supposed to record our shows and add their links to make sales. They have also made fake Twitter, FB and Skype accounts pretending to be performers. I don't care if they use my images that Streamate allows them to use for promotions, but when you steal my shit and pretend to be me I have an issue with you. They are given plenty of promotional material, they don't need to go all crazy and steal.

I kinda feel that Streamate is becoming MFC and that makes me sad. If I wanted to cam on MFC I would but I signed up to Streamate. Sure sites change but clearly the changes aren't doing so well. I do shows with prior Streamate customers on other sites and they said they left because of Gold shows. The performers they liked wouldn't do privates or exclusives anymore and the customers didn't like Gold shows. They also didn't like how some customers harassed and cussed at performers doing Gold shows. There are still many customers that prefer private shows and not enough performers are offering them anymore. I personally get nagged to do Gold shows daily and I'm in classic chat. They don't understand there are two different options, Gold and classic chat. I wish there was a better way to explain that when they sign up for the site.

You are spot on with what you said. We all have idea's on how to improve the site and we are all grateful to be able to work on the site. I wish they would make a suggestion page on the site or have a suggestion e-mail and we could email in our ideas. They might like some of them and add them to the site. I just feel sometimes there isn't enough communication with the site and the performers. I would love if they were planning to do updates to let us know a day or two in advance. We could see it when we log in and not wonder why we are having issues. A forum would be pretty cool too.



IDK where the shows are placed, use them for ads but when the person clicks on it, they are prompted to sign up. I think with this guy when the person signs up they are making a sm account not signing up to learn how to record. I could be wrong. FREE SHOWS SIGN UP HERE and they have a member account and now lost in the head. Starts watching the cams and buys shows. Bait site.
The bait site is not a lie, free cams is free chat, enjoy the free chat until that model does her job.
I have only seen pirated gold shows go full length. Nothing SM did.

Where streamate gives us a "fair trade" in their eyes,
the cammodels links. I do love logging and seeing I didn't perform one show with a good amount of money in my earnings. I note that member as a sign up, when he enters my room I look at the note and kiss all ass. Hes making me money if he buys a show from me or not.
We do not have charge backs, completely awesome. Performers are the only ones that do not see these charge backs. Others studios, marketers see the charge backs.
We have ample amount of customers, esp when 1600 models are online and still making money.

other sites offer us incentives but its only for a short period with new sign ups and charge backs are 98% of the time implemented.
MFC is the only one I know of that has good traffic but freeloaders galore.
They can be silenced but still watch the performer.
MFC offers more off site contacts as SM does not. I like that about sm. I feel safe and customers know they cant, they can talk the talk all day.

We are the performers but they built the playground and to be successful they cant give away everything.

They could do performers real dirty like streamray aka cams... 45% but really get 29%.. straight lie to the model until I called to find out Im being taxed on xyz bringing it down to 29% and that is the highest they pay.


Huge chunks go to affiliates, ads, TV commercials, having a behind the scenes team to forever develop something new.
SM is not getting the full % going to one man, its spread around the world from the office, camgirls, affiliates, web developers, down to the person that washes windows.
We cant have it all but we can make the best out of what we do get.

just my opinion

SarahTime
07-31-2014, 10:21 PM
Who cares about the top referring site, its marketing.


I just thought it was funny.

Naiad
07-31-2014, 10:26 PM
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Naiad
07-31-2014, 11:23 PM
The problem isn't that it's summer, how streamate chooses to market, or whatever the girl next to you is doing. Camming sucks because we're becoming rather homogenized and boring. When marginal cam models are tripping over themselves to offer a nearly identical product to the top girl in their niche (but you know make it their own because they have BLONDE hair not brown so it's totally unique and original...and also they do it for $5 less than that other bitch), of course the customers are going to go with the cheap option. Chaturbate's star is on the rise because they offer everything (men, women, trans, etc.) for free.

We need to stop thinking that we need to fuck every hole, squirt, buy a fuck machine, do g/g shows, or whatever thing is we think is banking that week. That market is saturated, bbs. You're just shooting yourself (and the girl who first did it) in the foot by going after it. The money is in the weird crap that guys don't even know they're into yet. You can make anything you can think of sexy if you get into it. I hope you're all familiar with rule 34.

If we want to see a change in the industry, we need to collectively step up our game. Instead of making a million excuses, we need to diversify. We need to stop watching top models for inspiration, and get creative. If you're a ballerina, you get online and do a GS with a bit from the nutcracker while stripping. Don't ask what anyone thinks. Don't listen when people tell you you're idea is stupid or laugh at you. Own your weirdness, then you can laugh all the way to the bank.

This is basically what I do with videos and to a lesser degree, camming. Novelty can work very well. But there's still a lot of niche/fetish girls who are struggling on SM, even with unique shows. Videos seem to work better for a lot of niches tbh.

Novelty is where it's at, though. But it has to appeal to enough people at the same time for a gold show - there are only so many people who want to watch kneenus shows for example (I'm taking that from another post here, haha). But you can make a kneenus video and all the kneenus guys can find the video that is always up for sale. You could also get the one kneenus guy that loves you in exclusive.

I guess you could say I have mixed feelings about the type of performance art you might be alluding to. Like it's a sex site, in theory one could argue that we should be able to provide sexual (or social) services, including fetishes, put our own spin on them, have our niche, and focus on perfecting that. But when we start relying on other types of advanced skills, like ballerina dancing, putting flaming dildos down our throat, or playing the piano with our tits, then webcamming becomes a different type of creature. Which is cool and artistic in a way...just a deviation from other forms of sex work imo.

If pushing it to artistic extremes or the intentionally weird became the new thing, then it would be like street performers - you see a few street performers doing random or kooky things and it gets boring pretty quick. They're all just trying to get your attention, but after seeing so many circus acts it doesn't catch your attention as easily. I know I'm taking the idea to an extreme here, just throwing some thoughts out there.

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 11:32 PM
I just thought it was funny.

lol I know you :D

just in general it was becoming OMGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD we are recorded type of threadssssssssssssssssssss for dayssssssssssssssssss
Yup we are recorded, its in the contracts, owns all content for promotion for newish performers that might be shocked

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 11:56 PM
I do love our links and not having chargebacks. I think tips should be at least 50/50 since we are earning those from giving someone a good show. When I get a huge tip and see my part its like ahhhh. However I am grateful just to be tipped at all. I'm not saying I dont appreciate Streamate but I do think they can improve on a few things. Like I said make Gold shows a mandatory $1 a minute. It's a win for the site and performers. Let us have stores so we can sell items people want via the site. I get asked to sell panties all the time but I decline since I can't take their info to mail them to them. I would sell them via the site if I could, its money for all of us. That way video's could only be sold via the store and not given out for free with Gold shows. Once again that is money for the site and performers. I'm all about the money and we all want more money.
I would also crack down on some of those affiliates. They aren't supposed to record our shows and add their links to make sales. They have also made fake Twitter, FB and Skype accounts pretending to be performers. I don't care if they use my images that Streamate allows them to use for promotions, but when you steal my shit and pretend to be me I have an issue with you. They are given plenty of promotional material, they don't need to go all crazy and steal.

I kinda feel that Streamate is becoming MFC and that makes me sad. If I wanted to cam on MFC I would but I signed up to Streamate. Sure sites change but clearly the changes aren't doing so well. I do shows with prior Streamate customers on other sites and they said they left because of Gold shows. The performers they liked wouldn't do privates or exclusives anymore and the customers didn't like Gold shows. They also didn't like how some customers harassed and cussed at performers doing Gold shows. There are still many customers that prefer private shows and not enough performers are offering them anymore. I personally get nagged to do Gold shows daily and I'm in classic chat. They don't understand there are two different options, Gold and classic chat. I wish there was a better way to explain that when they sign up for the site.

You are spot on with what you said. We all have idea's on how to improve the site and we are all grateful to be able to work on the site. I wish they would make a suggestion page on the site or have a suggestion e-mail and we could email in our ideas. They might like some of them and add them to the site. I just feel sometimes there isn't enough communication with the site and the performers. I would love if they were planning to do updates to let us know a day or two in advance. We could see it when we log in and not wonder why we are having issues. A forum would be pretty cool too.

I can see them maybe going up on tips.. maybe only free or private chat tips.
I would assume its hard to diff gs tips from private show tips. 0 GS are basically tips, kwim?

affiliates. record our shows and add their links to make sales. fake performer accounts.
I have yet to see one. I have seen my GS pirated.

I have seen my profile pics used on twitter, not as a account, the promoter is promoting the image I uploaded as a profile pic. They have nothing on what I promote myself.


It would be nice to have a inbox of updates and site is down then again, I can see SM thought of models taking off, doing something and the site is left for dead with customers and no models. When models start pouring in with the customers after the update everything is moving, money is generating. If there are no models, a empty site.
For those that do GS all they need to do is NOT make GS available for a cpl hours before until back up and running, the model will be safe with her expected earnings.

Think of a night club owner, he needs dancers, he has to wait, make phone calls if ppl dont show up, the customers will leave, find the next club, losing money. I have seen waitresses pulled from serving to chat up a customer so the club doesn't loose a customer OR give something free for him to come back. Its a mess to customers and no producing what he expected.

From models to customers, goldshows are not for everyone.
NOT offering privates, the models burned themselves. Refusing a private? burned. 2
There is a good mix that want privates and GS. My earnings page shows it.

They have a new feature thoughts email. Seems to work. I have used it and they return the email

temptingmodel
07-31-2014, 11:58 PM
You're 100% right. I'm not suggesting that we all do bizarre shit all of the time. I'm suggesting that it's a bad idea to form your hustle by "borrowing" from other models. It's smarter in my opinion to take what you enjoy, find a way to make those things sexy, and figure out how to make it work. Find your 'thing'.

The baseball bat thing springs to mind (because it's so often discussed here). I've seen many models try to imitate it. I've read/heard many models insist that they too would have awesome placement if they were willing to do it. I think they believe that there's a massive market for people who insert baseball bats. There isn't. There's a market for huge toys and odd insertion. She found a way to appeal to both of those markets at once, and offer a unique and exciting experience for the viewers. Then she kept coming up with new ways to keep her core audience engaged. The models I've seen who try to offer the same things generally fail hard. Other girls who appeal to the odd or large insertion crowd have also been successful if they truly find a way to make their shows unique.

I apologize if I'm not making any sense.

Everything makes perfect sense. Perfection :)

Airrrie2
07-31-2014, 11:59 PM
Cam police= not streamates best friends. I learned that not from me policing but other models policing and seeing the results. Not good.


This is a necessary part of our business. Certain models don't have the sense to limit their activities and will push the limits if they believe they won't get caught. They don't consider showing a tit in free chat may win them a $1 tip in the short term but deprive them of $100 more in the future. It's a matter of balancing what's bad with our business with what's good.

temptingmodel
08-01-2014, 12:21 AM
No no its not, while watching a cam, the model is losing her money. Streamate does watch, big brother, not even kidding. Trust me, a few models can promise this
I push the limits all the time, I push the borderline. pushing the limits and going over the limits are two different things.

People can police all they want. there is no extra %, no benefit.

I would just get on and hustle as hard as a model can and know the limits.





This is a necessary part of our business. Certain models don't have the sense to limit their activities and will push the limits if they believe they won't get caught. They don't consider showing a tit in free chat may win them a $1 tip in the short term but deprive them of $100 more in the future. It's a matter of balancing what's bad with our business with what's good.

temptingmodel
08-01-2014, 12:24 AM
Going with softer colors and no sheen did not mess up encoder once.

I also realized a light was out of place.

IMO that was my problem.

Airrrie2
08-01-2014, 12:24 AM
When did SM start watching? I'm confused about this because a couple pages back there's a ton of girls doing free close up shows. I was under the impression it's part of the reason we have so many freeloaders asking us to show pussy bb.

I should have quoted. This is in response to #13602

Naiad
08-01-2014, 12:33 AM
You're 100% right. I'm not suggesting that we all do bizarre shit all of the time. I'm suggesting that it's a bad idea to form your hustle by "borrowing" from other models. It's smarter in my opinion to take what you enjoy, find a way to make those things sexy, and figure out how to make it work. Find your 'thing'.

The baseball bat thing springs to mind (because it's so often discussed here). I've seen many models try to imitate it. I've read/heard many models insist that they too would have awesome placement if they were willing to do it. I think they believe that there's a massive market for people who insert baseball bats. There isn't. There's a market for huge toys and odd insertion. She found a way to appeal to both of those markets at once, and offer a unique and exciting experience for the viewers. Then she kept coming up with new ways to keep her core audience engaged. The models I've seen who try to offer the same things generally fail hard. Other girls who appeal to the odd or large insertion crowd have also been successful if they truly find a way to make their shows unique.

I apologize if I'm not making any sense.

Yes that makes sense :) For me when I think about getting "weirder", or weird as you had put it, I naturally think of what most would consider bizarre, haha.

It's the same thing on c4s actually. Girls who just copy what the top selling stores have are easy to forget. They just become some generic domme or whatever. I actually make a point to not look at the other stores. It sounds odd, but I find it distracting more then anything, and since I can conceptualize the fetish myself, it's basically pointless. I approach the fetish with a really open mind that lends itself to making up new ideas from scratch. It's why I do so well in my categories.

I've never used a fuck machine, squirted, did g/g shows, done anal, etc and I've done well. So I can attest to the fact that none of those things are necessary. If someone does any of those things and is successful, then their success can be attributed to the whole unique package and their innovation, not just one element that someone tries to cherry pick. I agree.

PrincessLavender
08-01-2014, 06:13 AM
Anyone else notice you can now type in the box that says "minimum payout" for Payoneer? I sent a message to support and I also asked Nissim if they changed the minimum payment. Want to make sure I can actually set it lower and it's not a mistake that's it there. With my luck it will mess my payments if it's a mistake. Sometimes you really need that $75. Lol.

justanothercamgirl
08-01-2014, 08:23 AM
Okay this is my 'lover of logic' 2 cents.

These four things I know to be true.

1. This is an imperfect world.
2. Streamate is making choices that have not been good ones financially or technologically.
3. There are only so many hours in a day.
4. I am hungry and I should eat breakfast.

I have the resources and power only be able to change one of the things on the above list --- so that is where I am going to direct my focus today. (*grins*)

temptingmodel
08-01-2014, 09:14 AM
When did SM start watching? I'm confused about this because a couple pages back there's a ton of girls doing free close up shows. I was under the impression it's part of the reason we have so many freeloaders asking us to show pussy bb.

I should have quoted. This is in response to #13602 nope, they shut cams down mid show and don't give a damn.
Girls will always not listen or say "I didn't know" Suspension for 24 - 7 days and back up within 24 hours doing it all over again.

Placement... Streamate watches
Choose a model for tv..... Streamate watches
Stripperweb .... Streamate watches
The thing is, the people will be back... Don't waste your time. :)

GlamourRouge
08-01-2014, 11:16 AM
"Hello,

Your account has been selected to help us BETA test the new free video gallery tool for Streamatemodels.

Please review the attached jpgs for instructions on how to create and upload new videos.

Please note the following guidelines when creating videos:
*Below the waist nudity is not allowed
*No music is allowed in recorded videos
*Maximum video size is currently set to 512mb

These videos will viewed by users exactly the same way your current photo galleries are.

This feature is not yet ready for full rollout and you have been selected to take part in a very limited Beta so we need to hear your thoughts on the new system! If you have any feedback please include type and size of video you uploaded and use the "Contact Us" form under the "Support" menu on your login page. Select the subject "Feedback on New Features" to make sure we see it! You can also use this form to submit questions or get help using this new feature.

Thank you!"


...FREE videos?! I don't mind putting teasers, but are they going to own the rights to these, and spam them all over the internet? If they take down my ugly pop-ups, I actually wouldn't mind that.

I know other people have gotten this inbox message before from support, but where are they trying to go with this?

AngelMari
08-01-2014, 11:32 AM
Thank you for posting this...guys like a challenge, it's innate to want to compete and work for the things that they want. I completely agree with you on everything you've said here. I do far better when I have more clothes on, and I refuse to do gold shows because it reminds me of selling pork at the local market. No offense to those who do gold shows, it's just how I would feel doing a gold show. I work on my personality as well. And you get better regulars that way.

I don't and never have done a gold show because I can't handle 40 people yelling at me to do something at the same time. I only have two hands and one mouth. Plus I don't show the goodies for free. Seems the only way to get them into a gold show, aint doing it.

Nocturnelle
08-01-2014, 01:57 PM
Wondering where Streamate support was when that new model got arrested on cam and the feed was left up for hours, lol.

SarahTime
08-01-2014, 02:16 PM
Wondering where Streamate support was when that new model got arrested on cam and the feed was left up for hours, lol.

OH dang! What?! Details? Without naming names of course!

JaneBurgess
08-01-2014, 03:46 PM
Yikes!!



Wondering where Streamate support was when that new model got arrested on cam and the feed was left up for hours, lol.

justanothercamgirl
08-01-2014, 03:57 PM
Wondering where Streamate support was when that new model got arrested on cam and the feed was left up for hours, lol.

Wha?

http://media.giphy.com/media/D85DeTnI64xLq/giphy.gif

kortneykay
08-01-2014, 05:22 PM
SM watches because they record our feeds and load them up to be downloaded all the time. Even when they aren't physically watching, they're recording your ass every time you stream.

lunalacelove
08-01-2014, 05:26 PM
Wha?

http://media.giphy.com/media/D85DeTnI64xLq/giphy.gif

yeah holy shittttt... whaattt??

Nocturnelle
08-01-2014, 05:56 PM
Lol!! I think I posted about it a few pages down. Just a newer model, think she was in the US but yeah. Clicked on her feed and saw two officers standing next to a young girl in a chair. There was some talking, I think something about drugs was mentioned? And then she stood up, they cuffed her and walked out the room. The feed was still up for the next hour or so with the cam facing an empty room and guys talking about how she really just got arrested, lol.

lunalacelove
08-01-2014, 06:08 PM
Okay I need serious help with Gold shows. I've been searching this thread for info about gold shows and all I seem to find is an eternal debate about how much we should charge.

I just can't for the life of me get one going. I'll start one with a 10 minute countdown, if I'm lucky I'll get 2-3 minimum pledgers and come nowhere near my goal. What the heck??? Maybe I'm just charging too much? I've seen models charging $200 for like 10 minute masturbation shows. For an example, the last one I did was a 10 minute show with a $75 goal and an $8 buy-in (I was trying lowering the per minute rate to see if that would work and it didn't).

What should I be doing? Is it just a situation where I need to keep trying to get GOLD show regs? I have private/exc regs but GOLD shows are new for me so is that it?

SarahTime
08-01-2014, 06:44 PM
Okay I need serious help with Gold shows. I've been searching this thread for info about gold shows and all I seem to find is an eternal debate about how much we should charge.

I just can't for the life of me get one going. I'll start one with a 10 minute countdown, if I'm lucky I'll get 2-3 minimum pledgers and come nowhere near my goal. What the heck??? Maybe I'm just charging too much? I've seen models charging $200 for like 10 minute masturbation shows. For an example, the last one I did was a 10 minute show with a $75 goal and an $8 buy-in (I was trying lowering the per minute rate to see if that would work and it didn't).

What should I be doing? Is it just a situation where I need to keep trying to get GOLD show regs? I have private/exc regs but GOLD shows are new for me so is that it?

I would first try lowering the buy in. For some reason if I stray further than .50 cents per minute on gold shows, it doesn't work for me. Maybe try $5 for 10 mins and see if that works better?