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Busygirl
08-13-2014, 04:42 PM
did not work out

Busygirl
08-13-2014, 04:43 PM
they are still as cheap

Whoregeous
08-13-2014, 04:45 PM
Streamate thread SLAYED me.

Busygirl
08-13-2014, 04:46 PM
yeah i noticed the refresh thingy is working :)

Busygirl
08-13-2014, 04:47 PM
working for you too?

BritishBecky
08-13-2014, 04:49 PM
worked for me for a bit (refresh thing)

BritishBecky
08-13-2014, 04:49 PM
then stopped working again

BritishBecky
08-13-2014, 04:50 PM
I had lowered my rates a couple of weeks ago because thought it would help but it didn't

BritishBecky
08-13-2014, 04:50 PM
so now I have put them back up again because I wasn't getting more privates just less money :)

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-13-2014, 04:51 PM
U do what you think is best. But I also did this and got NOTHING. Im not on SM often. Mostly 2 days a week. But I have a goal to make and will be living on the site. But since its one of the many sites I split cam with I think Im gonna boost my rates? Its not my number one free chat site and I kinda ignore them on SM. So I think by just holding out at a higher rate it will be better in the long run when someone does take me private. So many different ways to play this game.


hmmm...as much as I hate this I might have to lower my rates...i hate the thought of making less than a dollar a minute but things are deathly slow right now

Issabelle
08-13-2014, 07:44 PM
How to make a Streamate Support Special: 1 part Incompetence, two parts Inability to Read, half-part Redundancy, and a sprinkling of Bitchy, blended together into a nice, tall glass of Worthless.

Hopefully Liz's team is more useful than whoever handles accounting.

BubblyBlonde
08-13-2014, 07:53 PM
that newsletter they put out...like thats supposed to increase our earnings for August. HAHAHAHA whatever SM!

JaneBurgess
08-13-2014, 08:41 PM
I'm going to take some time off from Streamate. It's slow and I kinda feel as if they want us all to do Gold shows by so many of the changes. If I wanted to do large group shows I would do MFC or a similar site that pays at least 50 percent.

My week has been full of these fools that joined via links saying the site was free and implied nudity was free as well. I cam on other sites and they don't ask for free nudity 95 percent of the time and they have been busy. That with all the glitches are stressing me the fuck out and NO site is worth stress. I heart you guys and I hope the site gets better for you. If not don't be afraid to branch out and try other things. I did and it was amazing.

jaswolf: hi there, how are you?
is it time to get naked?

temptingmodel
08-13-2014, 08:43 PM
SM was in/out
If I could pull regular hours I could make more money

The money is there
Its like force feeding a kid through cam for me right now but I blame that on personal life.
I cant hustle hustle so I'm chilling still making good

Think I get more irritated at myself, balancing camming with regular life and when customers do STARE or NOT TIP INTO a goldshow or go private, I get irritated more easily.
I'm pressed for time.

I need to remember my time is limited for the next two weeks then the hustle is on again. I forget I am limited right now.
Still not complaining about the chunks I do make.

temptingmodel
08-13-2014, 08:45 PM
jaswolf: hi there, how are you?
is it time to get naked?
love them lol

fonenora
08-14-2014, 02:08 AM
Can you recommend some other site. One's that you can just do privates or group. I find sitting in front of a camera for hours sucks

Charnixxx
08-14-2014, 03:05 AM
Wow I am so glad I came here b/c SM has been deathly slow the past two times Iv'e logged on, it had me questioning myself and I ALMOST lowered my rates! But after reading this forum I decided to actually raise them ... but I really do wish it was a way to NOT have to do privates/group shows and only just do exclusives, that way we can weed out the 30 sec peepers! I recently started using a timer on my computer (it's called Snaptimer) I set it to 1 minute as soon as my show starts with a new custie I click the timer and I try to stall, and ask him hi, hru today, anything you want to see? Anything specific? I don't show any nudity til after 30 secs when I know they will be charged (but I might have to change that lol) and if he's one of those "SHOW PUSSY" guys in the first 5 seconds I personally just ignore their asses and do my thing until the 1 minute is up! Most leave before then anyways. It's still no way for me to catch the peepers who pop in while im in the middle of a show then leave before the minute is up. I wish SM would atleast let me block them or opt out of privates. I have mixed emotions abt this site!!! Men are so weird! I don't know if I should be chatty or 100% ice queen take me pvt now type of camgirl .. I always log on and say I'm gonna be on my serious/ice queen shit but i'm personally a silly fun smiley person and I love to talk but it seems they'd prefer me desperate or straight up rude demanding them to take me pvt ... maybe I should just type and not talk lol haha who knows! But yea tonight was so slow hopefully this morning will be better!

Issabelle
08-14-2014, 03:37 AM
Only way I've found that truly cuts down on peepers is to switch my premium and exclusive rates. $4.99/min exclusive and $5.99/min premium. I don't get multiple guys in paid often, so it works out well enough for me to do. Plus, I'm better at solo entertainment than multi-guy entertainment anyway. I've gone back to premium low/exclusive high recently, but refuse c2c requests, toys, specific shows, etc., etc., in anything but exclusive. And if I've got a lot of guys who I think will peep in guest chat? I have a clause in my description that says I won't do below-the-belt nudity in premium either. Occasionally I will if it's just that guy in my chat and no guest chat/possible peeper guys, but otherwise I avoid full nudity. Hasn't hurt my ratings or profits.

MarleyCat
08-14-2014, 06:07 AM
Totally random but are your locs sisterlocks?

I do have sisterlocks but they're much bigger than they would normally be because my hair is so thick.

Used to go to a lady too but I've had them eight years so I learned how to retighten them myself this year. It takes MUCH longer but it's certainly way cheaper in the long run.

I also like the idea of switching prem/excl I'm going to try that once my special is over.

Airrrie2
08-14-2014, 06:39 AM
My week has been full of these fools that joined via links saying the site was free and implied nudity was free as well.

Nudity is free on Streamate.

Airrrie2
08-14-2014, 06:43 AM
Think I get more irritated at myself, balancing camming with regular life and when customers do STARE or NOT TIP INTO a goldshow or go private, I get irritated more easily.
I'm pressed for time.

Have you tried taking your top off, dancing around and doing your best hustle? I remember you saying in another thread you would be. You seemed really confident.

SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
08-14-2014, 08:01 AM
It will only be a vicious circle. If we pretend that the boys can have a minute free pvt/exc with us and they realize they got charged, they will claim it as a chargeback. If enough boys do this, you know as well as I do, that Streamate will stop swallowing charge backs on our behalf. We are better than that, we need to see the bigger picture here. Streamate is still the best site for most of us and I sure as hell don't want them penalizing us for chargebacks.

I doubt this would happen because they know they are trying to cheat the system to begin with. People who know they are doing something wrong aren't going to go to support. What are they going to say? "I was trying to get a free 40 second show and I stayed 41 seconds and got charged. But I read somewhere on a stripper forum that I wouldn't get charged if I left before 45 seconds, I want a chargeback?" Come on now, let's be real here. I don't even think this is something mentioned for customers when they sign up? I could be wrong. And if I am wrong and this IS mentioned when they sign up, that is their fault for not reading and they have no reason to be asking for a chargeback since it was in writing. There are guys that lurk this forum specifically to find tips or tricks to get the advantage on us. I doubt SM will penalize us for that, and if they DID start getting a bunch of requests for chargebacks for 40 second peepers, THEN THEY would probably change that rule or at least reduce that 40 sec rule. They are a company trying to reduce costs like anyone else.

justanothercamgirl
08-14-2014, 08:02 AM
Have you tried taking your top off, dancing around and doing your best hustle? I remember you saying in another thread you would be. You seemed really confident.

She is an amazing hustler. One of the best I've ever seen.

SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
08-14-2014, 08:06 AM
Anyone else wear the same exact outfit on SM and make more money lol??/ For the last 3 weeks (i wash it lol)ive experimented ive been wearing the same dress and have done well every last day wtf?? Ive had a few guys make the snide remarks like oh you love that dress dont you but yeah so this week i tried other outfits not the same:( gonna try other colors of this dress and see how that works. Men are weird O_O

YES! I have this really pretty blue sundress with white polka dots and I feel like I definitely do better in it. lol I actually have had a few guys tell me to keep it on it private. I try to wear it often :D

Glamourmilf
08-14-2014, 08:33 AM
I switched my rates, as mentioned a few posts above. I.E.. exclusive is less than premium, like I have done in the past. Guys like it more, stay longer, and no peepers! :cloud9::cloud9:
I'm one of the unfortunate ones who gets like 5-10 peepers in a row, and I'm sooo over it!

MiraMichele
08-14-2014, 09:14 AM
^^Exactly, lol.

I think I'm going to try switching them around and see how it works for me today too.

Busygirl
08-14-2014, 11:06 AM
My day is not starting right. So customer service did not remove my 3 star rating. Dude in group chat, very demanding while 3 others in it, anal and all demands I moan his name, I tell him nicely we are in group don't want to bother others and choose exclusive next time while going along with all other requests than stays a minute, probably cums and rates me 3. Customer service said there's not enough evidence to remove the rating. I probably should ha stopped doing what I was doing, write him out to go exclusive and screencap the whole thing while other 3 members leave and rate me badly, fairly though in this case, just so I have evidence on this asshole?!

SoloDesire
08-14-2014, 11:13 AM
My day is not starting right. So customer service did not remove my 3 star rating. Dude in group chat, very demanding while 3 others in it, anal and all demands I moan his name, I tell him nicely we are in group don't want to bother others and choose exclusive next time while going along with all other requests than stays a minute, probably cums and rates me 3. Customer service said there's not enough evidence to remove the rating. I probably should ha stopped doing what I was doing, write him out to go exclusive and screencap the whole thing while other 3 members leave and rate me badly, fairly though in this case, just so I have evidence on this asshole?!

I think because too many girls are writing to have ratings removed that they are starting to be more picky about it. I never email support unless I've been rated a 1 star, and then I always send a screen cap of the conversation explaining that it was unwarranted.

Busygirl
08-14-2014, 11:16 AM
Well I'll keep writing, they aren't getting rid of me.

Busygirl
08-14-2014, 11:17 AM
I don't write often maybe once or twice a year, but what is unfair is unfair.

Glamourmilf
08-14-2014, 11:18 AM
^^Not enough evidence? That sucks! Maybe you just didn't get the right support person. I would try e-mailing again. or try sending it to Liz.
As for the 'door' closing sound in premium, I agree that it's an unnerving noise. Sometimes if the guy reaches his limit, it just throws You back into free chat. Even though it could still happen in Exclusive, I find everything more relaxing, with less commotion going on.
But that's just me... I find camming stressful in itself sometimes, so I like to make it as smooth as I can.
Besides, my custies love the exclusive option better, and psychologically they know they are getting a better rate, so that makes them rate a '5'.

Busygirl
08-14-2014, 11:21 AM
Of course bad rating happen when I reduce my rate. It brings in many good ratings also but the aggravation with asshats doesn't worth it. So my rates go back up. At least pay me if you are a Grinch!

Glamourmilf
08-14-2014, 11:29 AM
^^ did you reduce your rate in exclusive?

IvyRose
08-14-2014, 11:32 AM
hahaha Grinch... they really are
had one too today, totally 100% grinch

Busygirl
08-14-2014, 11:38 AM
You think they would see my excel rate is lower? Some say they only see gold option, no pvts excel, what's up with that!? And of course add to that the new guy influx lately of "how do I go private" and you got an overworked cam girl with a d... In the ....p doing customer service like a champ.

audreymadison
08-14-2014, 11:47 AM
You think they would see my excel rate is lower? Some say they only see gold option, no pvts excel, what's up with that!? And of course add to that the new guy influx lately of "how do I go private" and you got an overworked cam girl with a d... In the ....p doing customer service like a champ.

I may be wrong ... but I think the "I don't know how to go private guys" are lying. Especially if they say they can see the GIVE GOLD button. The "Enter My Live Private Show" button is right fucking next to it!!!! There is no way they can't read that if they can see the give gold button. Just my two cents. :)

IvyRose
08-14-2014, 11:48 AM
Well with al the changes going on; sometimes there is no option for pvt/exl I had some regulars complaining about it w while back. Only happened at 1 day fro me though, and not for every customer (some could take me on and some coudnt since the button was completely misisng for them), just a couple of times

Sometimes blocksessions also dont show up; for regulars who payed before..


I tend to only believe regulars too XD, but since even them were complaining back than there must have been a real issue

Busygirl
08-14-2014, 12:01 PM
And you girls know how many times I kick a guy out from pvt just because he is giving me a bad vibe and I just know he's going to rate me badly? I'm loosing out on a lot of money. We should not be under ratings terror.

Whoregeous
08-14-2014, 12:23 PM
You always seem very frustrated with SM and I am sure you have your own reasons but I want to play devil's advocate and ask why are you still on SM? I am not trying to be snarky or mean. I'm curious. You've mentioned branching out to other sites and it's amazing so why still cam on sm? I guess there's a saying 'better the devil you know'. But why should you have to put up with any devil at all?!

I'm going to take some time off from Streamate. It's slow and I kinda feel as if they want us all to do Gold shows by so many of the changes. If I wanted to do large group shows I would do MFC or a similar site that pays at least 50 percent.

My week has been full of these fools that joined via links saying the site was free and implied nudity was free as well. I cam on other sites and they don't ask for free nudity 95 percent of the time and they have been busy. That with all the glitches are stressing me the fuck out and NO site is worth stress. I heart you guys and I hope the site gets better for you. If not don't be afraid to branch out and try other things. I did and it was amazing.

jaswolf: hi there, how are you?
is it time to get naked?

Whoregeous
08-14-2014, 12:24 PM
You could do exclusives only by keeping your private rate a lot higher than exclusive.

Wow I am so glad I came here b/c SM has been deathly slow the past two times Iv'e logged on, it had me questioning myself and I ALMOST lowered my rates! But after reading this forum I decided to actually raise them ... but I really do wish it was a way to NOT have to do privates/group shows and only just do exclusives, that way we can weed out the 30 sec peepers! I recently started using a timer on my computer (it's called Snaptimer) I set it to 1 minute as soon as my show starts with a new custie I click the timer and I try to stall, and ask him hi, hru today, anything you want to see? Anything specific? I don't show any nudity til after 30 secs when I know they will be charged (but I might have to change that lol) and if he's one of those "SHOW PUSSY" guys in the first 5 seconds I personally just ignore their asses and do my thing until the 1 minute is up! Most leave before then anyways. It's still no way for me to catch the peepers who pop in while im in the middle of a show then leave before the minute is up. I wish SM would atleast let me block them or opt out of privates. I have mixed emotions abt this site!!! Men are so weird! I don't know if I should be chatty or 100% ice queen take me pvt now type of camgirl .. I always log on and say I'm gonna be on my serious/ice queen shit but i'm personally a silly fun smiley person and I love to talk but it seems they'd prefer me desperate or straight up rude demanding them to take me pvt ... maybe I should just type and not talk lol haha who knows! But yea tonight was so slow hopefully this morning will be better!

Glamourmilf
08-14-2014, 12:35 PM
^^ Exactly! As I had mentioned above. Switching the rates like that is a sanity saver. Plus, it's a 'bonus' when guys do pop into the higher rate premium, and stay long enough.

gingerstripper
08-14-2014, 01:18 PM
sm scares me lately

JaneBurgess
08-14-2014, 01:33 PM
I liked the site for years but I think that Gold shows are the reason the site has declined in traffic and sales. Granted there were freeloaders before not like now. It attracted a whole new customer base that includes cheap and freeloading customers. They can just hangout for a $1 or $0 Gold show and get off on that. When the sites that don't allow nudity in free chat are growing by leaps and bounds in traffic and the sites that allow nudity are losing traffic by the millions thats a sign of what customers want.

I don't mind devil's advocate at all and I didn't think you were being snarky. I think I stuck around because I am loyal to sites and I felt guilty doing other sites. I also kinda hoped it would get better or go back to what it was before. That's why I started split camming and seeing what was out there. What I saw was better traffic, better pay, hardly any glitches and less begging. I figured out loyalty really isn't returned to you and you have to do what works best for you.

I hope it picks up and gets better for you all I really do.



You always seem very frustrated with SM and I am sure you have your own reasons but I want to play devil's advocate and ask why are you still on SM? I am not trying to be snarky or mean. I'm curious. You've mentioned branching out to other sites and it's amazing so why still cam on sm? I guess there's a saying 'better the devil you know'. But why should you have to put up with any devil at all?!

SM_CamGirl
08-14-2014, 02:57 PM
Today was a better day ladies, we only need to have patience.. one day its to hard but the other is more easy, i agree that SM its not like before but unfortunately its the only page where the guys take me on pvt, i just lay on bed and no more, i hate move or dance in free or be naked all time doing free shows for tokens, if i would find a new page where i can work like the same way.. im sure i would leave SM, but i dont find it yet...

temptingmodel
08-14-2014, 04:14 PM
Have you tried taking your top off, dancing around and doing your best hustle? I remember you saying in another thread you would be. You seemed really confident.
Nothing past tense, I am confident, its the only way to be successful.
Usually I am 100% naked.
I tease the hell out of them.

when my personal life crosses over into camming, I get irritated. "Think I get more irritated at myself, balancing camming with regular life" so it has nothing to do with customers. I take 1 in a goldshow and usually end up meeting goals.

Being on cam is 100% performance for me. Like being on stage.
for myself performing good is having a good balance in life. I live/love this cam and I live my life.


She is an amazing hustler. One of the best I've ever seen.

TY :)

AliceFun
08-14-2014, 05:42 PM
I really need to share this:

38629

Hahaaaaaaaa, really?!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-14-2014, 06:00 PM
Now if he had said I have Ice Cream with Cherries on top in exchange for money...I might have done it? #fatgirlsloveicecream


I really need to share this:

38629

Hahaaaaaaaa, really?!

SimoneGray
08-14-2014, 06:10 PM
Now if he had said I have Ice Cream with Cherries on top in exchange for money...I might have done it? #fatgirlsloveicecream

Yeah maybe even some fudge sauce you know? Hahahahahahahaha this is actually a new low for freeloaders

temptingmodel
08-14-2014, 06:44 PM
I'm the same way. I have a loyalty to sm. Maybe bc they helped me or talked me into staying and camming instead of giving up. The best pep talk I had. I didnt understand camming fully and the bullies on SM. Staff is always straight up with me. I do appreciate this.
I don't get this. Who exactly do you feel guilty towards on the sites?
Maybe its a old school way of thinking but the first ones to help, motivate me are the ones I stay with.

JaneBurgess
08-14-2014, 07:56 PM
Exactly how I meant it. I love the staff at Streamate. They have been great to me and I feel awful taking a break from there but I have to do what's best for me. When Privatecamz had issues Shaun brought me over to Streamate and helped me figure the site out. He and Liz are wonderful people. I might need that peep talk from.

It is an old school way of thinking and I think that's why it's hard for some performers to take breaks or leave for another site.



I'm the same way. I have a loyalty to sm. Maybe bc they helped me or talked me into staying and camming instead of giving up. The best pep talk I had. I didnt understand camming fully and the bullies on SM. Staff is always straight up with me. I do appreciate this.
Maybe its a old school way of thinking but the first ones to help, motivate me are the ones I stay with.