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SarahTime
09-16-2014, 01:39 PM
This is why i ask,Also i asked Liz,because i did some for 200 golds and now i did average of 110-150 never 70...... This is that is strange

It used to be that they averaged it based on ALL your gold shows, but now they average it based on ONLY the tv shows. So yah, it sucks.

I always reached lower on TV shows than my own shows. Right now I can easily reach $150+ on my own gold shows, but for TV they say I average $60! So yah, I don't do TV anymore. Not worth it. Countless unknown numbers of TV subscribers are watching your show without paying you a dime, they only pay their subscription price to the TV channel, and they can't give us better offers than that? It's not fair to us models.

Bambola
09-16-2014, 01:47 PM
I accept two time and i get 100 and in other 110 and they still offer me 70, and i see they offer 150 to others models,so i dont do Also anymore at less they change opinion,i prefer do it pvt or exclusives,yes is not fair is fcking cheap offer...
Thanks Sara ! Kisses

bigbootyjudy1
09-16-2014, 01:56 PM
So apparently you can't use the word "humiliation" on your profile on SM. They sent me an email after I tried to add it into my show description. Wtf?! Too many stupid rules while some girls get away with everything :(

THey made me take my pic down cuz it had the word humiliation in it .I think they just started enforcing it though,

SoloDesire
09-16-2014, 03:34 PM
THey made me take my pic down cuz it had the word humiliation in it .I think they just started enforcing it though,

It's just silly. And there are still tons of girls who use it still in their profile. I'm not gonna make a big deal over it and email them, but I just think it's ridiculous. Are we not "allowed" to give humiliation shows either now? Too many rules means too many rules will be broken lol.

GlamourRouge
09-16-2014, 03:37 PM
It's just silly. And there are still tons of girls who use it still in their profile. I'm not gonna make a big deal over it and email them, but I just think it's ridiculous. Are we not "allowed" to give humiliation shows either now? Too many rules means too many rules will be broken lol.

Pretty sure they just have a misspelled version of it.

SoloDesire
09-16-2014, 03:39 PM
Pretty sure they just have a misspelled version of it.

You mean in other profiles? I found several today with "small penis humiliation" typed out correctly. I was sure to check after they rejected mine. It's no secret that SM is biased and plays favorites though.

Snowy0Star
09-16-2014, 03:49 PM
has anyone been having problems today with ppl staying in the room? like all day ive had ppl just comming and going entering leaving right away then comming back in . My mfc room has been fine so its something with SM or something on my end with SM. i had one guy say hi as soon as he came in and left so fast i know he didnt hear me say hi back .

SimoneGray
09-16-2014, 03:53 PM
SM has been disastrous for me in terms of tech issues...the worst of it seems to be over now though. Touch wood.

SoloDesire
09-16-2014, 03:57 PM
has anyone been having problems today with ppl staying in the room? like all day ive had ppl just comming and going entering leaving right away then comming back in . My mfc room has been fine so its something with SM or something on my end with SM. i had one guy say hi as soon as he came in and left so fast i know he didnt hear me say hi back .

I always have this. I just figure the site is too graphic intensive for some systems and that's why some guys have problems staying connected and others dont. I don't know...but I'm used to having that issue every day so it's not just you.

Blovely
09-16-2014, 04:05 PM
Bloody hell. Surely it's in SM interest to get as much money as possible from boys and not cap it at a certain amount?

Every site I've tipped on has the same sort of system. I'm guessing it's a sort of protection against fraud. If you make several purchases over time, it's not as easy to claim that your card was stolen.

Was about say the same as @ABigNerd. It probably has more to do with the payment processor/credit card companies than the actually site.




THey made me take my pic down cuz it had the word humiliation in it .I think they just started enforcing it though,

It's just silly. And there are still tons of girls who use it still in their profile. I'm not gonna make a big deal over it and email them, but I just think it's ridiculous. Are we not "allowed" to give humiliation shows either now? Too many rules means too many rules will be broken lol.
Why would they not allow humiliation? Like I'm trying to wrap my head around why they'd do that? I really don't understand why.

RaineyLane
09-16-2014, 05:05 PM
Is anyone on SM doing the TV shows? I just got approved to do them and trying to decide if I should opt in. I don't and won't offer GOLD shows so thinking it's a good way to give the average guys a chance to see me. I'm just wondering if it's worth it. It says you have to allow the users without a registered credit card to chat. I'm not thrilled about that part. So I guess my question is, what kind of offers did the producers send you? Was it worth the free chat guys to get these shows? Just curious how it's been working out lately. Thanks in advance :)

JaneBurgess
09-16-2014, 08:04 PM
You have to do a Gold show to get a tv show. A producer, during a Gold show with offer you a tv show that you can accept or decline. Performers on here were saying they have been offering a lot less than their average for Gold shows.



Is anyone on SM doing the TV shows? I just got approved to do them and trying to decide if I should opt in. I don't and won't offer GOLD shows so thinking it's a good way to give the average guys a chance to see me. I'm just wondering if it's worth it. It says you have to allow the users without a registered credit card to chat. I'm not thrilled about that part. So I guess my question is, what kind of offers did the producers send you? Was it worth the free chat guys to get these shows? Just curious how it's been working out lately. Thanks in advance :)

SarahTime
09-16-2014, 08:09 PM
You don't have to be doing a gold show in order to get a gold show offer. They offer them at any time as long as you are in party chat mode and have tv shows enabled. They do offer them more often in Gold though, I noticed when I was doing them. But I got offers when I wasn't already running one too. I don't think they are worth it since they began to seriously low ball the offers.

I haven't had any tech issues tonight... everything has been smooth and busy!

scarlettbelle
09-16-2014, 09:36 PM
Is anyone on SM doing the TV shows? I just got approved to do them and trying to decide if I should opt in. I don't and won't offer GOLD shows so thinking it's a good way to give the average guys a chance to see me. I'm just wondering if it's worth it. It says you have to allow the users without a registered credit card to chat. I'm not thrilled about that part. So I guess my question is, what kind of offers did the producers send you? Was it worth the free chat guys to get these shows? Just curious how it's been working out lately. Thanks in advance :)

I do TV Gold shows pretty often (one or two per day). They usually give me the same total goal, show length, and countdown length that I usually go for, but they sometimes charge the guys a dollar less. I almost always end up going over the goal, and it gives me a ton of new traffic. The main issue I have with them is that ALL of my recorded videos are TV Gold show videos. When I accept a TV show, I always wonder if it's going to end up on some promoters site. :(

I wouldn't worry too much about the non-registered guys - their conversations show up in a different chat window and you can keep it minimized. I only read it when I'm bored. You can also spam them with messages telling them to sign up with a credit card. :D

JaneBurgess
09-16-2014, 09:45 PM
I am so sorry I meant the Party chat option. My mind has been all over the place tonight. Thanks for correcting what I said Sarah.



You don't have to be doing a gold show in order to get a gold show offer. They offer them at any time as long as you are in party chat mode and have tv shows enabled. They do offer them more often in Gold though, I noticed when I was doing them. But I got offers when I wasn't already running one too. I don't think they are worth it since they began to seriously low ball the offers.

I haven't had any tech issues tonight... everything has been smooth and busy!

JaneBurgess
09-16-2014, 09:49 PM
I was talking with a Streamate performer tonight who was very upset. Another performer has been sending customers into her room and having people call her names and trying to get them to leave so she earns less money. I know who the harasser is and frankly I am sad that anyone would do that to another performer. We are all working hard to pay our bills, take care of our families, save money, etc. I just wanted to remind everyone that we are all in this together. We already have people in society that think we are sluts, whores, stupid, etc. We should be supporting each other and not fighting with each other.

If you don't like someone, leave them alone. Focus on yourself and make your own money.

justanothercamgirl
09-16-2014, 10:53 PM
It seriously pisses me off that Streamate won't let us watermark our feeds. I found a video of mine up tonight that someone has stolen and of course the fact that it has no watermark makes it perfect for SOMEONE ELSE to put their own watermark in the corner to drive traffic for themselves to their site of choice. ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ

GlamourRouge
09-16-2014, 11:08 PM
Why don't you have a sign with your cam name right behind you? That technically isn't against the rules.

anoncamgirl
09-16-2014, 11:26 PM
Why don't you have a sign with your cam name right behind you? That technically isn't against the rules.

Heh. I do this is my room, it's gotten me in trouble on a few sites TBH. Be careful if you do this!

Issabelle
09-17-2014, 01:37 AM
I use the sign trick. SM has never bothered me over it, so I keep it. It's huge and has my performer name as well as Streamate.com written on it. Ironically, I had two guys come in during the same hour, come exclusive, and go 'bb turn off that music, bb take down that sign, bb follow my script' basically and that made it VERY obvious they were cappers. I use the sign not just for preventing capping, but also as a good gauge for sussing out cappers. Some people would say I'm hasty, but I auto-ban anyone who screams capper to me, particularly if they've never done a show before. The possibility of having to deal with DMCA shit and a risk to my future career hasn't been worth the lost income thus far.

scarletl
09-17-2014, 02:20 AM
I use manycam to stream on SM and it has the little manycam.com logo at the bottom of the screen, which it won't let me get rid of unless I upgrade manycam.

Could I get in trouble on sm for this?

beauvoir
09-17-2014, 02:49 AM
Isn't it worth just upgrading? It's better quality, and a legitimate business expense.

beauvoir
09-17-2014, 04:55 AM
Im sorry if this is a stupid question, but Im still unsure about how payment's work. The payments for the week beginning 7th... have they been sent out yet? I'm so confused...

Issabelle
09-17-2014, 05:10 AM
Im sorry if this is a stupid question, but Im still unsure about how payment's work. The payments for the week beginning 7th... have they been sent out yet? I'm so confused...

I'm digging this out of the bowels of my memory, so you'll have to forgive me (with daily pay studio now), but SM has a 21 day 'holding period' on payments. They cut checks on Wednesday and mail them Thursday out of Seattle (assuming you get checks). I believe all the payments are done on Wednesday, but someone else would have to clear that up for me. There's an option to receive your check via fedex with no holding period to speak of (i.e. after cutoff on Saturday you'd have it on Wednesday/Thursday I think; Kortney uses this option, so ask her for specifics). There's also the option to do a wire transfer (I know nothing on that one) and to use Payoneer (also nothing, but I think it's similar to pay by check). Whichever you choose, the standard is generally that 21 days after your pay period ends, you'll get paid. If the pay period starts the 7th, it ends the 13th and the 21st day is then the 4th of October. You'll get paid sometime during the second week of October if you're getting a check mailed to you. It's like a 3-4 week delay depending.

beauvoir
09-17-2014, 06:03 AM
I use Payoneer.

Missbeth
09-17-2014, 06:52 AM
I'm digging this out of the bowels of my memory, so you'll have to forgive me (with daily pay studio now), but SM has a 21 day 'holding period' on payments. They cut checks on Wednesday and mail them Thursday out of Seattle (assuming you get checks). I believe all the payments are done on Wednesday, but someone else would have to clear that up for me. There's an option to receive your check via fedex with no holding period to speak of (i.e. after cutoff on Saturday you'd have it on Wednesday/Thursday I think; Kortney uses this option, so ask her for specifics). There's also the option to do a wire transfer (I know nothing on that one) and to use Payoneer (also nothing, but I think it's similar to pay by check). Whichever you choose, the standard is generally that 21 days after your pay period ends, you'll get paid. If the pay period starts the 7th, it ends the 13th and the 21st day is then the 4th of October. You'll get paid sometime during the second week of October if you're getting a check mailed to you. It's like a 3-4 week delay depending.

You can email SM support and have the 3 week hold removed from your account

Here is how to payment would work if you have it removed
The pay period would go 9/7-9/13 then the payment is sent the following Weds which would be today (9/17), this will show in "payment history"... I always recieve my check the following Monday so I will receive my payperiod 9/7-9/13 in the mail on 9/22 but I can imagine it will be a little faster with payoneer

Issabelle
09-17-2014, 07:06 AM
There was an option to have that nonsense removed? Seriously. Well damn. I still love daily pay but...damn it.

SM_CamGirl
09-17-2014, 07:26 AM
I was having issues yesterday (338-503 kbps when I usually get 700-900 and my usual 31 fps were down to 15) , but my camera (920c) needed an update and I (well my SO) also went ahead and downloaded the 3.2 version of the HD encoder, that seemed to have done the trick.


thanks, but that dont worked for me, i continue with the same problem of 100 kbps bit rate... i really dont know what to do and SM its the only page i work... im desperate i send message to support but i dont get any answer yet...

Rosemary Rabbit
09-17-2014, 07:40 AM
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Snowy0Star
09-17-2014, 08:51 AM
Why don't you have a sign with your cam name right behind you? That technically isn't against the rules.

Jen Vegas used to do this she had just Jen Vegas nothing else in the upper left of her screen i noticed she didnt do that anymore (its been months since i saw her tho )- i think SM told her she couldnt anymore

Snowy0Star
09-17-2014, 08:53 AM
Isn't it worth just upgrading? It's better quality, and a legitimate business expense.

Very soft is actually better and its $40 it dosent have a limit to how many streams u can split and i think many cams does

beauvoir
09-17-2014, 09:01 AM
I have Very Soft. It was £13. A worthy investment.

So have payments for the week of September 7th been processed to Payoneer yet?

BritishBecky
09-17-2014, 09:14 AM
^no. If you use payoneer card you should receive it at around 5pm UK time on Friday. If you use the global transfer thingy then it will most likely hit your bank Tues morning.

beauvoir
09-17-2014, 09:32 AM
You beauty, thank you. I need to write this all in my diary.,

xxx

Bambola
09-17-2014, 01:21 PM
It used to be that they averaged it based on ALL your gold shows, but now they average it based on ONLY the tv shows. So yah, it sucks.

I always reached lower on TV shows than my own shows. Right now I can easily reach $150+ on my own gold shows, but for TV they say I average $60! So yah, I don't do TV anymore. Not worth it. Countless unknown numbers of TV subscribers are watching your show without paying you a dime, they only pay their subscription price to the TV channel, and they can't give us better offers than that? It's not fair to us models.

Hi Sarah! I declined three offers for tv shows today and i did one normal gold show at 150 at other at 100, You think the producers Will still offer me the same shit ? Or they will offer more? Kisses

MissQuirk
09-17-2014, 01:41 PM
Hmm, just thought I'd give ladies a heads up.
I'm trying to perv on pretty ladies on SM and I'm getting load errors. This is on wifi and wired connection.
So if traffic is shitty for anyone today, I'm getting load errors so maybe other people are, too.

JaneBurgess
09-17-2014, 06:02 PM
I thought we could if it was just our name on the feed. I do it occasionally and they haven't ever said anything. Is this covered in the contract because if they don't have it in the rules it should be fine.




It seriously pisses me off that Streamate won't let us watermark our feeds. I found a video of mine up tonight that someone has stolen and of course the fact that it has no watermark makes it perfect for SOMEONE ELSE to put their own watermark in the corner to drive traffic for themselves to their site of choice. ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ

SarahTime
09-17-2014, 06:49 PM
Im sorry if this is a stupid question, but Im still unsure about how payment's work. The payments for the week beginning 7th... have they been sent out yet? I'm so confused...

Assuming you are on a one week pay delay which I believe most US performers are and I'm not sure where you are located, then the pay period that began on the 7th will be paid out on the 17th.

Standard US mail check: approximately Sept 23rd
Fedex check: Sept 19th
Wire: Sept 19th
Payoneer card load: Sept 19th
Payoneer global bank transfer: approximately Sept 23rd.

If you are on the 3 week delay, then count 3 Wednesdays after the 13th when the pay period ended. So Sept 17, Sept 24, Oct 1, and then go from there on whatever payment method you selected.

Annnnnd I should have finished reading the thread before I replied. LOL But hey, maybe it's still useful to someone! :)

SarahTime
09-17-2014, 06:53 PM
Hi Sarah! I declined three offers for tv shows today and i did one normal gold show at 150 at other at 100, You think the producers Will still offer me the same shit ? Or they will offer more? Kisses

I've also been told that the more often you decline shows, the less they will offer them to you. I began declining every show and now they do not even offer to me at all. Even though I am still opted in, I haven't had an offer in months because I declined several offers in a row.

But no they probably won't offer you higher goals because they are going to base your offers on what you make in TV gold shows only, not in your own gold shows that you start. So most likely they will start you off low, $50-70 and then they will raise them if you surpass their goals. So if you take a goal of $50 for a TV show but you actually bring in $150, they are going to likely give you a higher offer next time.

scarletl
09-18-2014, 11:29 AM
Hey ladi
I have a few questions.

1. When your in normal chat (non paid) do you dance, pose, tease? Or sit there greeting and chatting?

2. I only seem to have max 2-3 people in my room at one go. Is that normal? How many do you average in your room?

scarletl
09-18-2014, 11:33 AM
Excuse the spelling. I'm using my phone

SarahTime
09-18-2014, 11:37 AM
Hey ladi
I have a few questions.

1. When your in normal chat (non paid) do you dance, pose, tease? Or sit there greeting and chatting?

2. I only seem to have max 2-3 people in my room at one go. Is that normal? How many do you average in your room?

I do both in free chat, I mostly sit and greet people and chat but I also get up and move around to break up some of the monotony. Have to kind of find a happy medium between the two.

I think the number of people in your room will have a lot to do with where you are placed on the site. How many in my room depends on what I'm doing, if I'm just sitting there chatting I get 10-15 or so. If I'm up showing off I get more. If I'm doing a gold show I get a lot more... 40-60 or so.

starcraft
09-18-2014, 11:52 AM
heeeey. i want to ask about amazon wishlist.. one guy insisted me to create one bcs he wants to buy something for me, but i dont want share any personal details except the email i use for random shits which doesnt contain my name and i dont use it non on fb, nowhere except shits... i dont know if its safe and if its possible to hide all my personal info: adress, full name, phone number ect..?

beauvoir
09-18-2014, 12:01 PM
I do both in free chat, I mostly sit and greet people and chat but I also get up and move around to break up some of the monotony. Have to kind of find a happy medium between the two.

I think the number of people in your room will have a lot to do with where you are placed on the site. How many in my room depends on what I'm doing, if I'm just sitting there chatting I get 10-15 or so. If I'm up showing off I get more. If I'm doing a gold show I get a lot more... 40-60 or so.

I don't know how you keep convos going with that many guys in free x

SarahTime
09-18-2014, 12:02 PM
I don't know how you keep convos going with that many guys in free x

Honestly most of them don't even talk. Probably 3-5 are actually talking. Some will talk if I call them out by name and say something specifically to them but yah, most of them just sit there or go private and talk in there.

Bambola
09-18-2014, 12:13 PM
What u do when a guy come to private and say for example gagging now or anal now!If i dont have time to banned him he rate me one star and a bad comment....this happened to me two times this week,i cant understand why this guys do this because i have put in my profile request only in exclusive chat.... :(

space_cowgirl
09-18-2014, 12:22 PM
What u do when a guy come to private and say for example gagging now or anal now!If i dont have time to banned him he rate me one star and a bad comment....this happened to me two times this week,i cant understand why this guys do this because i have put in my profile request only in exclusive chat.... :(
Email SM support and ask them to ban him for you and remove the one star rating. Fuck guys who can't read.

innocentindian
09-18-2014, 12:36 PM
@starcraft, I work around Amazon wishlists like this:

-Use your fake/camming email to sign up for a brand new Amazon account
-Put in your fake/camming name (do not put an address!!!)
-Add whatever you like to your wishlist, and then add an Amazon e-gift card (at the very top, make its priority the highest)
Make sure you add the e-gift card, not the regular gift card!

I leave a little message next to the e-gift card as well "Buy this first, then I'll buy something off my wishlist ;)"

That way guys can only buy me the e-gift card (which gets emailed to my camming email) and then I can buy whatever I want and have it shipped to an address that is in my PRIVATE address book on Amazon, not the Wishlist address book. (There should not be any address in the Wishlist address book anyway)

Airrrie2
09-18-2014, 10:01 PM
Super annoyed here. I have an amazing internet connection with download speeds of 120+ MBPS and upload speeds of 25 MBPS, my round trip to seattle is only 8ms.
I have my encoder set to upload at 29.97 fps with a bit rate of 850. For the life of me I can not understand my my fps is only averaging 10.06 when I attempt to broadcast with the encoder.

39020
39021

As you can see, I am maintaining the recommended bit rate of 850 while broadcasting and have absolutely no dropped frames because my connection and set up is so solid. What on earth is going on with the fps? There are days where I actually have to lower my fps rate because (I have a gaming rig) my computer rig often over compensates and will upload faster than I have my encoder to send.

Is anyone else having this issue?

Damiansmommy10
09-19-2014, 09:57 AM
im about to sign up for SM im wondering what a good rate to start at is? I was thinking 3.99/4.99 im small but a little bit curvy with a little bit of a belly since I had a baby. but im 19 and shy lol