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Mare
09-19-2014, 10:08 AM
I'm not picking that up! Someone else touch it! LOL ^^^^^^

scarletl
09-19-2014, 10:22 AM
im about to sign up for SM im wondering what a good rate to start at is? I was thinking 3.99/4.99 im small but a little bit curvy with a little bit of a belly since I had a baby. but im 19 and shy lol

I don't think rates should be your concern right now, I think perhaps you need to consider some things before camming (especially on a big site like SM).
You mention that you're shy, how do you think that might get in the way of camming? Granted that we all get nervous when we start out camming but being on a cam site you are opening yourself up to a whole load of stuff.
Most of the time the guys are nice but there are some complete assclowns out there who will throw insult, beg for free shows and god knows else what.
Then your open to guys recording your shows from their computer and posting them out there online or reselling them for their own profit.
And then lets not forget you are open to people you know noticing you.

Do you feel you are able to take all of this on board?

I don't want to sound negative because camming is fun and it's great but for a shy person I just wondered if you had considered this before considering your rates.

SoloDesire
09-19-2014, 10:42 AM
im about to sign up for SM im wondering what a good rate to start at is? I was thinking 3.99/4.99 im small but a little bit curvy with a little bit of a belly since I had a baby. but im 19 and shy lol

YOU charge what YOU want to be paid. Whenever I start a new site I set my rates to what I want to be paid after mY percentage on that site. If I'm not making any money at that rate over a period of time then I lower it, little by little until I find my comfortable place. We can't tell you what to charge...get used to making decisions for yourself or you'll get eaten alive in this business.

Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 11:58 AM
I'll take that as a no. No one else having this issue.

I tried a new browser this week. Not sure if that has anything to do with it but I'm dropping it like it's hot.

beauvoir
09-19-2014, 12:34 PM
I have no idea what round trip means, but mine sucks.

JuliaX
09-19-2014, 01:50 PM
If you are using a Logitech cam, go to the settings and lower the video resolution to medium or small. It has helped me to go back from barely 15 to 30, so it might help you too.


Super annoyed here. I have an amazing internet connection with download speeds of 120+ MBPS and upload speeds of 25 MBPS, my round trip to seattle is only 8ms.
I have my encoder set to upload at 29.97 fps with a bit rate of 850. For the life of me I can not understand my my fps is only averaging 10.06 when I attempt to broadcast with the encoder.

Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 03:50 PM
I thought of it after I posted. Thank you!

sin69
09-19-2014, 04:32 PM
What do people do in their rooms to keep it entertaining if you don't have any customers? I usually chair dance to my music but it get's old after an hour. I say hello to everyone that pops in and ask how they are but most just pop right back out. What am I doing wrong?

SarahTime
09-19-2014, 04:56 PM
What do people do in their rooms to keep it entertaining if you don't have any customers? I usually chair dance to my music but it get's old after an hour. I say hello to everyone that pops in and ask how they are but most just pop right back out. What am I doing wrong?

What are you doing wrong? Nothing. Welcome to Streamate. :)

Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 07:16 PM
If you are using a Logitech cam, go to the settings and lower the video resolution to medium or small. It has helped me to go back from barely 15 to 30, so it might help you too.

Ok I did this and it didn't change anything. My fps today was 16. I've never had an issue reaching 30 fps until this week. I don't know if it has anything to do with dropping Aero or if it has something to do with throwing in a new graphics card (I got the 750 GTX overclocked) but that's graphics so I'm confused how that could affect my upload or FPS rate.

Iedit: I am running a Performance Information scan. Maybe if I send it to tech support they can help me figure it out. Doubtful but it's always worth a shot.

Magical_Hoohah
09-19-2014, 07:26 PM
So, I'm perving a bit on SM tonight, and it looks like everyone is lagging pretty badly. Is anyone else seeing this? My speed test shows that my internet is fine, and my CPU isn't overloaded or anything.

On a positive note, as a result of the lagging, I got a rather extended peek at AudriTwo's ass, and... wow!

ETA: I checked out KinkLive, which I believe operates on a similar system (at least, they both use the Encoder). KL rooms take a hot minute to open, but once they do, I don't see much lag at all. That leads me to believe that it's not my internet or computer.

Missbeth
09-19-2014, 07:55 PM
My room was lagging tonight too
I think the shortest lag I counted was 5 seconds but most of the time it was longer

AngelMari
09-19-2014, 07:55 PM
I noticed that yesterday evening on SM. I had 50/12 speed and I had folks popping in and out saying there was a lag but there were over 17K ladies on (finally after 15 mins it got a show and then it was on for the rest of the night) I think that might have something to do with it. Maybe their servers cant keep up?

Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 09:15 PM
39028

So I was browsing tonight to see if anyone else was having lag issues. Normally I don't use chrome to peruse the site but for some reason tonight I did. Do you see why this girl may not have made her goal? I think I do! It's a gold show countdown! I refreshed it a few times too.

Incantatious
09-19-2014, 09:26 PM
Wow, first time I go on SM in months, and my stream looks like absolute garbage, is lagging, (despite using HD cam, i7 processor, upload speed over 8 mbps and using the encoder on exact recommended settings), and the sound is lagging to like a century before I was born. *_*

SarahTime
09-19-2014, 09:32 PM
39028

So I was browsing tonight to see if anyone else was having lag issues. Normally I don't use chrome to peruse the site but for some reason tonight I did. Do you see why this girl may not have made her goal? I think I do! It's a gold show countdown! I refreshed it a few times too.

I don't understand what we are looking at here.... ? It's a screen shot so it's kind of hard to tell if you are talking about it being blurry/choppy looking (which could be from the screen shot? ) or something else?

Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 09:33 PM
I don't understand what we are looking at here.... ? It's a screen shot so it's kind of hard to tell if you are talking about it being blurry/choppy looking (which could be from the screen shot? ) or something else?

There's no place to put the gold!

The timer is cut off too. It's just this mess of a pixelated blurry pic with no countdown timer and no place to tip!

SarahTime
09-19-2014, 09:33 PM
Also, I haven't noticed lagging or bad looking streams. I do notice guys seem to be taking longer to respond when I speak, but other than that seems ok? No one has complained.

Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 09:36 PM
I had a couple complains tonight about my cam cutting off. I also had a guy tip me twice for a gold show but he was never brought into the show. He sat out there in guest chat tipping me more. Not a bad thing for me personally but not so great for my reputation or the site!

Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 09:37 PM
The pages seem to work fine with Firefox but my Chrome, which I believe is up to date, isn't fairing so well.

Iedit: It works when I resize the browser using the square shrink button on the top right (next to the X)but when I have the browser set to full size the timer and tip button disappears below the frame. Just me?

SarahTime
09-19-2014, 09:53 PM
There's no place to put the gold!

The timer is cut off too. It's just this mess of a pixelated blurry pic with no countdown timer and no place to tip!

ooooh okay I wasn't sure if that was how it showed or if it was due to the screen shot

AliceFun
09-19-2014, 10:36 PM
I see another new one: "FREE GOLD SHOW", why does SM allows text over profile pictures advertising these shows? Most sites wont allow edited profile pictures. I even saw profile pictures with girls on the beach or outdoor and SOME OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PICTURE! I mean, really? How they approve such profile pics, are they blind?
Not going to try to piss off people in here but i ask u veteran 'before gold shows moment' ladies to remember how excited everyone was to have gold shows available and nobody was willing to even accept the possibility that things will turn out bad for many of us on the long run?! We are here after how many? 3 years now watching how things fall apart on this site once was the best on the market.

Adding: and the answer we got back then was "but i am making great money" ('i only care about myself'), now u get the same answer from the $0 GS models "i am making my money" ('i only care about myself'). See the irony?!

euaici
09-19-2014, 10:58 PM
Just loooove the pic! so motivational!


Wow, first time I go on SM in months, and my stream looks like absolute garbage, is lagging, (despite using HD cam, i7 processor, upload speed over 8 mbps and using the encoder on exact recommended settings), and the sound is lagging to like a century before I was born. *_*

JaneBurgess
09-19-2014, 11:47 PM
I was one of the veterans that said from the start Gold shows were a bad idea. Why give a discount on cam shows? It never made sense to me, camming is a luxury if you can afford it. It might have turned out better if they required the shows to be at least a buck a minute, not allowed incentives to join the show and that would have made free shows impossible. Granted I know they arent 100 percent free, I know performers put in a goal and do the show when they hit it. I just don't get the concept of free shows. You know freeloaders will just pop from free show to free show and never spend a dime.

I think the site will eventually stop the free shows, pretty sure they get a lot of messages complaining about gold shows period. I can't imagine they can be making that much money if they have to offer cheap or free shows. That seems to be a tactic to use on slow days or if you aren't making much money overall.

I would also point out no one can say gold shows haven't hurt the site. If you look at the traffic numbers from before gold shows started to recently, the traffic is down a bit over half. There is no way it's a coincidence either. I think it changed the customer base of the site and many customers left because they didn't like the new vibe. I still have customers tell me they won't buy into gold shows because so many of the other customers are rude. Good customers never want to see cam performers abused, they actually care.

We can all debate over Gold shows, but the reality is the site needs to step up and do something. Almost all the posters in Camming Sucks are posting about Streamate and how slow it is. Is it slow for everyone? No. It is slow for a lot of performers? Yes. That's something they need to work on because unhappy performers will leave and go make another site money. Good performers are hard to find.



I see another new one: "FREE GOLD SHOW", why does SM allows text over profile pictures advertising these shows? Most sites wont allow edited profile pictures. I even saw profile pictures with girls on the beach or outdoor and SOME OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PICTURE! I mean, really? How they approve such profile pics, are they blind?
Not going to try to piss off people in here but i ask u veteran 'before gold shows moment' ladies to remember how excited everyone was to have gold shows available and nobody was willing to even accept the possibility that things will turn out bad for many of us on the long run?! We are here after how many? 3 years now watching how things fall apart on this site once was the best on the market.

Adding: and the answer we got back then was "but i am making great money" ('i only care about myself'), now u get the same answer from the $0 GS models "i am making my money" ('i only care about myself'). See the irony?!

SoloDesire
09-19-2014, 11:54 PM
39028

So I was browsing tonight to see if anyone else was having lag issues. Normally I don't use chrome to peruse the site but for some reason tonight I did. Do you see why this girl may not have made her goal? I think I do! It's a gold show countdown! I refreshed it a few times too.

I had this happen to me in Chrome before. Its because you're zoomed in on your browser. I have one of those zooming wheels on my mouse and must have hit it somehow...but I was able to zoom back out and it went back to normal. So yeah, figure out how you zoom out on your browser and it will fix it.

SarahTime
09-20-2014, 12:00 AM
Twice tonight I had something happen where it made the exclusive alert noise, but no pop up asking me to accept the exclusive and no one ended up in private or exclusive chat, I remained in free chat. It was so weird. Never had this happen before.

AliceFun
09-20-2014, 12:40 AM
I was one of the veterans that said from the start Gold shows were a bad idea. Why give a discount on cam shows? It never made sense to me, camming is a luxury if you can afford it. It might have turned out better if they required the shows to be at least a buck a minute, not allowed incentives to join the show and that would have made free shows impossible. Granted I know they arent 100 percent free, I know performers put in a goal and do the show when they hit it. I just don't get the concept of free shows. You know freeloaders will just pop from free show to free show and never spend a dime.

I think the site will eventually stop the free shows, pretty sure they get a lot of messages complaining about gold shows period. I can't imagine they can be making that much money if they have to offer cheap or free shows. That seems to be a tactic to use on slow days or if you aren't making much money overall.

I would also point out no one can say gold shows haven't hurt the site. If you look at the traffic numbers from before gold shows started to recently, the traffic is down a bit over half. There is no way it's a coincidence either. I think it changed the customer base of the site and many customers left because they didn't like the new vibe. I still have customers tell me they won't buy into gold shows because so many of the other customers are rude. Good customers never want to see cam performers abused, they actually care.

We can all debate over Gold shows, but the reality is the site needs to step up and do something. Almost all the posters in Camming Sucks are posting about Streamate and how slow it is. Is it slow for everyone? No. It is slow for a lot of performers? Yes. That's something they need to work on because unhappy performers will leave and go make another site money. Good performers are hard to find.

Yes, Yes & Yes!! i cant be quiet on this, i want to voice my frustration with this site, i want SM to read how they ruined the site, NOT for the top girls as there was always business for them but for the average working cam models on the site, just 'normal' models who are struggling trying to make a living there. I dont want to work on token sites or dead sites, i like the SM format & i wish they would just save this site. You hear SM? Wake up! Do something! :P

Airrrie2
09-20-2014, 05:39 AM
I had this happen to me in Chrome before. Its because you're zoomed in on your browser. I have one of those zooming wheels on my mouse and must have hit it somehow...but I was able to zoom back out and it went back to normal. So yeah, figure out how you zoom out on your browser and it will fix it.

My default page setting is actually 90%, you're right!

justanothercamgirl
09-20-2014, 06:22 AM
Um, what the fuck!?!

I am perving Streamate to get inspired to work like I always do. And I see a girl get taken to private and instead of the 'I am now in a show screen' I am now watching part of her private with a MOREINPVT tag over it and can hear all her dirty talk for her show.

Is this new or did they always do this and I completely missed it? I can understand why no one is going private at all if they can listen in on all the privates and see parts of the video. O.O

justanothercamgirl
09-20-2014, 06:23 AM
Um, what the fuck!?!

I am perving Streamate to get inspired to work like I always do. And I see a girl get taken to private and instead of the 'I am now in a show screen' I am now watching part of her private with a MOREINPVT tag over it and can hear all her dirty talk for her show.

Is this new or did they always do this and I completely missed it? I can understand why no one is going private at all if they can listen in on all the privates and see parts of the video.

I could even see what she was typing to him! O.O

Edited to add: It doesn't seem to be doing it for all the shows. I just watched another one and got the 'I am in a show screen'

SimoneGray
09-20-2014, 06:24 AM
^^ If that is the way it is now, then heaven help us all :(

ZafinaX
09-20-2014, 06:24 AM
OMG they're doing it the Naked.com's tip show way? OH NOOOOOO!

anonymous camgirl
09-20-2014, 06:55 AM
Yea I have been trying to find other sites that can be my main site instead, myself. The amount of bullshit vs the pay?? Isn't even worth it to me anymore.. I keep hoping it will get better but my paycheck is now cut in half there and it's just as worse as ever!.. It sucks but I never liked depending on one cam site for the bulk of my income. It's not smart to me.


I was one of the veterans that said from the start Gold shows were a bad idea. Why give a discount on cam shows? It never made sense to me, camming is a luxury if you can afford it. It might have turned out better if they required the shows to be at least a buck a minute, not allowed incentives to join the show and that would have made free shows impossible. Granted I know they arent 100 percent free, I know performers put in a goal and do the show when they hit it. I just don't get the concept of free shows. You know freeloaders will just pop from free show to free show and never spend a dime.

I think the site will eventually stop the free shows, pretty sure they get a lot of messages complaining about gold shows period. I can't imagine they can be making that much money if they have to offer cheap or free shows. That seems to be a tactic to use on slow days or if you aren't making much money overall.

I would also point out no one can say gold shows haven't hurt the site. If you look at the traffic numbers from before gold shows started to recently, the traffic is down a bit over half. There is no way it's a coincidence either. I think it changed the customer base of the site and many customers left because they didn't like the new vibe. I still have customers tell me they won't buy into gold shows because so many of the other customers are rude. Good customers never want to see cam performers abused, they actually care.

We can all debate over Gold shows, but the reality is the site needs to step up and do something. Almost all the posters in Camming Sucks are posting about Streamate and how slow it is. Is it slow for everyone? No. It is slow for a lot of performers? Yes. That's something they need to work on because unhappy performers will leave and go make another site money. Good performers are hard to find.

AliceFun
09-20-2014, 06:56 AM
Maybe a glitch??!! I dont want to believe they start doing this now!!??!!

justanothercamgirl
09-20-2014, 07:02 AM
OMG they're doing it the Naked.com's tip show way? OH NOOOOOO!

I've never been on Naked.com before. How does it work there?

Sunnylexie
09-20-2014, 07:10 AM
I would also point out no one can say gold shows haven't hurt the site. If you look at the traffic numbers from before gold shows started to recently, the traffic is down a bit over half. There is no way it's a coincidence either. I think it changed the customer base of the site and many customers left because they didn't like the new vibe. I still have customers tell me they won't buy into gold shows because so many of the other customers are rude. Good customers never want to see cam performers abused, they actually care.

That's not just because the performers are abused. Douches who didn't get their requests granted or trolls often take advantage of public messaging in GS's and start a brawl in the paid section or type gross things just to ruin it for everyone else. Even if the show is $1 it's not like you want to pay it to read about someone sucking on his sister's used tampons.

ZafinaX
09-20-2014, 07:40 AM
I've never been on Naked.com before. How does it work there?

In regular pvt, it's like streamate with the "in a pvt session" with a black screen and u can't hear anything. However, when a girl does a "tip show" similar to a SM GS, if she reaches her goal, they will block out like 80-90% of your screen and you can still be heard. So the people in free chat can just hope your pussy slips between the 10-20% of the remaining screen shown while they hear u dirty talk and moan. I will never do a damn tip show there lol

justanothercamgirl
09-20-2014, 08:39 AM
In regular pvt, it's like streamate with the "in a pvt session" with a black screen and u can't hear anything. However, when a girl does a "tip show" similar to a SM GS, if she reaches her goal, they will block out like 80-90% of your screen and you can still be heard. So the people in free chat can just hope your pussy slips between the 10-20% of the remaining screen shown while they hear u dirty talk and moan. I will never do a damn tip show there lol

Yeah, it was kind of like that. I could only see a close up of her thigh.

The super odd thing is that I could hear the MFC tip sound going off in the background. /:O

Missbeth
09-20-2014, 09:06 AM
What do people do in their rooms to keep it entertaining if you don't have any customers? I usually chair dance to my music but it get's old after an hour. I say hello to everyone that pops in and ask how they are but most just pop right back out. What am I doing wrong?


I just talk to myself.

Glamourmilf
09-20-2014, 10:51 AM
What do You mean by a 'Tip show?' :confused:
Thankx, Glam

SarahTime
09-20-2014, 01:38 PM
Um, what the fuck!?!

I am perving Streamate to get inspired to work like I always do. And I see a girl get taken to private and instead of the 'I am now in a show screen' I am now watching part of her private with a MOREINPVT tag over it and can hear all her dirty talk for her show.

Is this new or did they always do this and I completely missed it? I can understand why no one is going private at all if they can listen in on all the privates and see parts of the video.

I could even see what she was typing to him! O.O

Edited to add: It doesn't seem to be doing it for all the shows. I just watched another one and got the 'I am in a show screen'

Wait, what???

Are you logged into a members account or browsing like a non logged in viewer?


Yeah, it was kind of like that. I could only see a close up of her thigh.

The super odd thing is that I could hear the MFC tip sound going off in the background. /:O

She was probably split camming and people were tipping her on MFC while she was doing her gold show.

SarahTime
09-20-2014, 01:42 PM
Something I noticed and have been meaning to point out... remember when they started auto refreshing the main page? Like if you leave it open for however long they auto update the models who are online and not in a show? Well I noticed that they are filling the spots of models who have gone into a show with the profiles of seemingly random lower placed models. So, I thought that was nice for models who aren't always placed high. Gives a bit of exposure because some of them will momentarily be in the top rows until it auto refreshes again.

kortneykay
09-20-2014, 03:50 PM
Wow, SM is really fucking up tonight. First time I've ever logged off early before cut off because of technical issues. I had at least 12 regs come in for shows and either couldn't see me at all, or couldn't hit PVT/EXL no matter what they did. Also, my encoder kept flipping out. Let's hope they fix this ASAP. I even checked my own feed and saw nothing but SM's grey screen of death. O.o

justanothercamgirl
09-20-2014, 04:08 PM
Wait, what???

Are you logged into a members account or browsing like a non logged in viewer?

She was probably split camming and people were tipping her on MFC while she was doing her gold show.

I think I was logged in to my custie account, I might of not been. Damn! I should of been paying more attention to that. Sorry Sarah. :(

The reason the MFC thing confused me was because she wasn't doing a gold show she actually went into private.

JaneBurgess
09-20-2014, 07:06 PM
The site has been glitching recently. I know in the past a glitch caused customers in free chat to be able to see shows in the private option. I hope its a glitch, that would be a new feature most of us would not like.



Um, what the fuck!?!

I am perving Streamate to get inspired to work like I always do. And I see a girl get taken to private and instead of the 'I am now in a show screen' I am now watching part of her private with a MOREINPVT tag over it and can hear all her dirty talk for her show.

Is this new or did they always do this and I completely missed it? I can understand why no one is going private at all if they can listen in on all the privates and see parts of the video.

I could even see what she was typing to him! O.O

Edited to add: It doesn't seem to be doing it for all the shows. I just watched another one and got the 'I am in a show screen'

JaneBurgess
09-20-2014, 07:07 PM
You should always voice your concerns. They can't address or change the issues if no one speaks up.



Yes, Yes & Yes!! i cant be quiet on this, i want to voice my frustration with this site, i want SM to read how they ruined the site, NOT for the top girls as there was always business for them but for the average working cam models on the site, just 'normal' models who are struggling trying to make a living there. I dont want to work on token sites or dead sites, i like the SM format & i wish they would just save this site. You hear SM? Wake up! Do something! :P

JackAlexander
09-20-2014, 09:36 PM
DAMN YOU SM!!! All day I nurture myself to health and get so pretty.... only to log on and the placement algorythim is jacked up... like girls you see ALWAYS on the top 2 rows and/or 1st page are on page 5, how does that happen??? I am no where to be found... hope some regs find me :-D

And while I am searching for myself, upon page 3 I find a chica from RO profile pic where she is bare ass naked, spread eagle and full labia, muff and all, I mean I can see the detail of her snatch, like I could draw you a perfect rendering of it including her clit! I am mortified at this moment. Kicking rocks, I am such a rule follower :-( REBOOT

:-D :-D :-D

pinkpink
09-21-2014, 12:25 PM
So I'm really confused. SM has a video of me on my profile, for sale, for $2.99. I actually just contacted them today about it and asked for it to be removed and they gave me a long-winded reply not really answering my request to have the video removed. Just saying a bunch of shit about marketing efforts.

Then today someone says "Loved your video!" and said he watched it today but I don't see any earnings for it. I was annoyed they priced the vid so low but wait, are they selling a vid of me and not giving me a cut?

I'm also trying to deal with this other website that has videos of me and they were posted by SM! But the guy they forwarded my email to, says the vids can't be removed unless I provide ID that says I am who I say I am. Shady as fuck!!

What is going on? :(

Issabelle
09-21-2014, 02:29 PM
So I'm really confused. SM has a video of me on my profile, for sale, for $2.99. I actually just contacted them today about it and asked for it to be removed and they gave me a long-winded reply not really answering my request to have the video removed. Just saying a bunch of shit about marketing efforts.

Then today someone says "Loved your video!" and said he watched it today but I don't see any earnings for it. I was annoyed they priced the vid so low but wait, are they selling a vid of me and not giving me a cut?

I'm also trying to deal with this other website that has videos of me and they were posted by SM! But the guy they forwarded my email to, says the vids can't be removed unless I provide ID that says I am who I say I am. Shady as fuck!!

What is going on? :(

That sounds like a Contact Liz Directly sort of thing girl. Annnnd, now I'm checking my profile. Ain't no chance in hell I'm going to have videos up, paid or not.

pinkpink
09-21-2014, 03:16 PM
That sounds like a Contact Liz Directly sort of thing girl. Annnnd, now I'm checking my profile. Ain't no chance in hell I'm going to have videos up, paid or not.

Who is Liz? :O

Oh & PS I just reread their reply to me and I glazed over this part:

"Storing and streaming these videos take a lot of resources, which are covered by the earnings the clips generate. This service helps increase the quality of our site, and was not introduced for profit purposes."

So, no, I don't get paid for it. I have no idea if I opted into this somehow, but this is bullshit. >:(