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1pandoradesire
01-10-2015, 09:14 PM
Just a heads up... the member name of the person to rate me one star was Maddisonfun34. I have reported as a possible hacker, just wanted to share with everyone this pvt. lasted 53 seconds.

JackAlexander
01-10-2015, 09:20 PM
When somebody is doing a TV goldshow, they're on the first (or there's performers in first and second) spot on page one...

Yes, I know, I was watching her before she got the show and she was at the bottom of the page, that was what I was saying. Then she shot to the number one spot

brittany_bitch
01-11-2015, 03:14 AM
does any1 know the highest prices girl on sm just wondering whats the highest rate you girls have seen or know of today I increased my rates to make more and do less and feel so fucking discouraged about it now

Vlodina
01-11-2015, 03:20 AM
does any1 know the highest prices girl on sm just wondering whats the highest rate you girls have seen or know of today I increased my rates to make more and do less and feel so fucking discouraged about it now

There's girls charging 19.99/min

brittany_bitch
01-11-2015, 04:02 AM
wow really? thanks. Do they do well? I went up to 11.99 and am hearing nothing but sht about it i have had one show an i was hoping for at least 6 hours a week in chat out of 48 hours put in sounds fucking fair to me and i have 7 mins in usually i get close to or over an hour in paid a day i have 12 percent in paid i dont want to go back working myself to death for peanuts

Marina Starr
01-11-2015, 09:43 AM
It won't work if you don't believe in what you're charging. I've seen girls charge $19.99 a minute. Higher rates do not mean you'll make more money. It can only work if the guys willing to pay for it.

does any1 know the highest prices girl on sm just wondering whats the highest rate you girls have seen or know of today I increased my rates to make more and do less and feel so fucking discouraged about it now

sammii
01-11-2015, 09:55 AM
ooooo....kkkkk....help me understand this.
Was flipping around chat rooms and saw a girl say she was doing a tv show and she was unable to edit the topic. But it said panties for $66......so SM is letting us sell panties now? How would we do this without exchanging info? Is there something new I missed since being MIA from SM the past few weeks? This was weird. Please understand I am not hating on her, just trying to find out if this is now an option, cuz I used to make a lot of cash doing it until I got spooked.
I don't know why someone would risk suspension to sell panties for like $20 their cut? Hahaha wow ... but no it's still not allowed as far as I know.

JackAlexander
01-11-2015, 10:14 AM
I don't know why someone would risk suspension to sell panties for like $20 their cut? Hahaha wow ... but no it's still not allowed as far as I know.

But what was getting me was it appeared as though a producer put that as her topic. She was sitting there minding her own business trying to sell a show, never made any mention of selling panties. All of the sudden she looks surprised and says, "Ok guys we are doing a tv show". She and then looks at the monitor oddly and says " oh, weird, I can't edit the topic, this is really weird, I do gold shows for way more than this. What does this topic even say. Oh, I guess I am selling my panties for $66 gold..yadda yadda yaddda"

I was taken back that a producer was selling her panties and was wondering if the was the new normal and if I had missed something. Apparently these producers something else eh? I wonder where they find them........ Are there rules somewhere about following what a producer tells you to do? I am only curious, I am not a gs gal, but I might be someday.

sammii
01-11-2015, 10:31 AM
But what was getting me was it appeared as though a producer put that as her topic. She was sitting there minding her own business trying to sell a show, never made any mention of selling panties. All of the sudden she looks surprised and says, "Ok guys we are doing a tv show". She and then looks at the monitor oddly and says " oh, weird, I can't edit the topic, this is really weird, I do gold shows for way more than this. What does this topic even say. Oh, I guess I am selling my panties for $66 gold..yadda yadda yaddda"

I was taken back that a producer was selling her panties and was wondering if the was the new normal and if I had missed something. Apparently these producers something else eh? I wonder where they find them........ Are there rules somewhere about following what a producer tells you to do? I am only curious, I am not a gs gal, but I might be someday.
She probably clicked the accept button for the TV show/topic without really reading it. They automatically use the topic from your previous Gold Shows but they give you a chance to edit it. She likely forgot to edit it when given the chance and was probably worried about getting into trouble for selling panties since it's a TV Gold Show ... the producers don't write the topic for you.

Glamourmilf
01-11-2015, 11:40 AM
Ive experimented with rates over ten dollars before, (after streaming for like an hour with traffic but no buyers). What i noticed was completely new screen names i had never seen before. Coincidence, or is sm sending me the guys who they know will pay?

JackAlexander
01-11-2015, 03:41 PM
She probably clicked the accept button for the TV show/topic without really reading it. They automatically use the topic from your previous Gold Shows but they give you a chance to edit it. She likely forgot to edit it when given the chance and was probably worried about getting into trouble for selling panties since it's a TV Gold Show ... the producers don't write the topic for you.

Thank you sammii for the clarification, I thought they wrote it for you.

JackAlexander
01-11-2015, 03:45 PM
Ive experimented with rates over ten dollars before, (after streaming for like an hour with traffic but no buyers). What i noticed was completely new screen names i had never seen before. Coincidence, or is sm sending me the guys who they know will pay?

I swear the traffic in my room is directed by them or their software. I do not know how else to explain the waves I get. I wish we could run analytics on our pages, trust me I have tried :-) I bet there is a cleaver cam girl out there who has or can figure it out though.

LaylaLovely
01-11-2015, 04:14 PM
^ I have had the same experience not on sm but on my other site I raised my prices and so many new guys that were all premium members all ppl I had never seen before. I definitely think sites promote girl based on prices as well as other attributes like where you live your look you niche etc...

hyori
01-11-2015, 08:31 PM
Well then, I am going to raise my prices just for shits and giggles.

brittany_bitch
01-12-2015, 05:02 AM
i figured more hours and higher rates would mean more money it should imo. I guess I will work 12 hours a day total all I need in paid chat is like 51 minutes a day I should hit that out of 12 hours I hope anyway guess I will have to see but 84 hours a week should land me 6 hours in paid if not dam lol. I did get new guys a room full but only 4 shows all together I only worked 3 hours but I think I did good for it 56 bucks for 12 mins of chat I am runnin with it I do believe in it and I feel like its the best for me it means i can work longer to make more usually at old rates it would have took about 30 mins or so to have 56 then an hour or more for little over 100 now 24 mins means 100 so I won't be tired as hell from back to back cheap ass shows I can stay on longer and my clam will still be pink end of day not red lmao.

Cutie101
01-12-2015, 08:11 AM
^ This actually makes sense and yes that would be interestiing :)
I raised my prices one day for like 2 hours at 9,99 and 11,99 and a regular took me in pvt right away (i doubt he noticed the prices) but he stayed 10 minutes and i earned 30$ heheheh :D
I am still afraid to do that.Now my prices are 5,99 and 9,99 for exclusive.hmmmmmmm

SarahTime
01-12-2015, 01:51 PM
i figured more hours and higher rates would mean more money it should imo. I guess I will work 12 hours a day total all I need in paid chat is like 51 minutes a day I should hit that out of 12 hours I hope anyway guess I will have to see but 84 hours a week should land me 6 hours in paid if not dam lol. I did get new guys a room full but only 4 shows all together I only worked 3 hours but I think I did good for it 56 bucks for 12 mins of chat I am runnin with it I do believe in it and I feel like its the best for me it means i can work longer to make more usually at old rates it would have took about 30 mins or so to have 56 then an hour or more for little over 100 now 24 mins means 100 so I won't be tired as hell from back to back cheap ass shows I can stay on longer and my clam will still be pink end of day not red lmao.

Would you really rather have to stay online 12 hours a day, 84 hours a week as you say, just waiting for those few guys who will pay the much higher rate... versus making your goal in much less time at a lower rate? Certainly there has to be some balance where you find your "happy spot" rate that keeps you busy and gets you the money you need in the shortest time.

I know a lot of people raise rates to "work smarter, not harder" but in my opinion staying online for 12 hours hoping to spend 51 minutes of those twelve hours sounds like nothing but self sabatoge, and definitely not working smarter. Your placement will land in the shitter at that ratio of paid chat time vs online time. Not to mention if you have 12 hours a day to cam, imagine the money you would make in a 12 hour span at a lower rate!

I'm not saying to go to like super low rates but maybe $4.99-8.99? There's so many things to consider when choosing a rate that will actually allow you to work smarter and not harder. It takes a lot of experimenting.

If you're getting sore or worn out with a lot of private shows, I would consider raising the rate a little bit to slow things down and change up the type of shows you do, maybe only do toys if they request it and only after a certain amount of time in paid has gone by. I only use toys when requested and it's really only a couple times a night. You might be surprised at how many guys are happy without toys.

audreymadison
01-12-2015, 02:08 PM
Four girls per row ... or is just me ???

justanothercamgirl
01-12-2015, 02:11 PM
Would you really rather have to stay online 12 hours a day, 84 hours a week as you say, just waiting for those few guys who will pay the much higher rate... versus making your goal in much less time at a lower rate? Certainly there has to be some balance where you find your "happy spot" rate that keeps you busy and gets you the money you need in the shortest time.

I know a lot of people raise rates to "work smarter, not harder" but in my opinion staying online for 12 hours hoping to spend 51 minutes of those twelve hours sounds like nothing but self sabatoge, and definitely not working smarter. Your placement will land in the shitter at that ratio of paid chat time vs online time. Not to mention if you have 12 hours a day to cam, imagine the money you would make in a 12 hour span at a lower rate!

I'm not saying to go to like super low rates but maybe $4.99-8.99? There's so many things to consider when choosing a rate that will actually allow you to work smarter and not harder. It takes a lot of experimenting.

If you're getting sore or worn out with a lot of private shows, I would consider raising the rate a little bit to slow things down and change up the type of shows you do, maybe only do toys if they request it and only after a certain amount of time in paid has gone by. I only use toys when requested and it's really only a couple times a night. You might be surprised at how many guys are happy without toys.

I've charged super high rates and I agree with your statement. If you have super high rates to "work smarter, not harder" and don't have a good hustle to go with those high rates you are probably going to end up very much disappointed with the outcome.

SarahTime
01-12-2015, 03:28 PM
Four girls per row ... or is just me ???

Ugh looks like they made the profile pictures HUGE again. Dislike.

AngelMari
01-12-2015, 03:53 PM
Would you really rather have to stay online 12 hours a day, 84 hours a week as you say, just waiting for those few guys who will pay the much higher rate... versus making your goal in much less time at a lower rate? Certainly there has to be some balance where you find your "happy spot" rate that keeps you busy and gets you the money you need in the shortest time.

I know a lot of people raise rates to "work smarter, not harder" but in my opinion staying online for 12 hours hoping to spend 51 minutes of those twelve hours sounds like nothing but self sabatoge, and definitely not working smarter. Your placement will land in the shitter at that ratio of paid chat time vs online time. Not to mention if you have 12 hours a day to cam, imagine the money you would make in a 12 hour span at a lower rate!

I'm not saying to go to like super low rates but maybe $4.99-8.99? There's so many things to consider when choosing a rate that will actually allow you to work smarter and not harder. It takes a lot of experimenting.

If you're getting sore or worn out with a lot of private shows, I would consider raising the rate a little bit to slow things down and change up the type of shows you do, maybe only do toys if they request it and only after a certain amount of time in paid has gone by. I only use toys when requested and it's really only a couple times a night. You might be surprised at how many guys are happy without toys.

Totally agree!! I rarely use toys, maybe once a night if that. I make my goal consistently within 2-3 hours, if I'm still in a good mood I'll stay on longer but I don't think I've ever made it more than 6 hours. Also I only sign on when I'm in a good mood and have a big ole shit eating grin...I've found they can't pass up a smile and a laugh. No way I could work 12 hours.

SoloDesire
01-12-2015, 04:21 PM
I'm curious how many of you make your premium rate higher than exclusive and how well it works for you. I'm seriously considering this because I'm just fed up with all of the peeping during my shows...it's getting RIDICULOUS! Like I'll be in a show for 2 minutes and have 5 or more people pop in and out in that amount of time ridiculous!

I could really use some advice on this! I'm going crazy!!

JessaBelle
01-12-2015, 04:50 PM
You mean making your premium rate higher than exclusive to cut down on peepers? I did this the other day but have only been doing gold shows. Not sure how it will go.

SoloDesire
01-12-2015, 04:52 PM
Yes, that's what I meant lol...ooops! I edited it. I think I'm going to give it a try because I'm at my wits end with these pathetic peepers.

sweetgapeach
01-12-2015, 04:56 PM
I'm curious how many of you make your premium rate higher than exclusive and how well it works for you. I'm seriously considering this because I'm just fed up with all of the peeping during my shows...it's getting RIDICULOUS! Like I'll be in a show for 2 minutes and have 5 or more people pop in and out in that amount of time ridiculous!

I could really use some advice on this! I'm going crazy!!

I kept my exclusive lower than private for the first two years at least, just from reading on here, thinking it would be the best route. Then I read a post somewhere that Sarah posted about how much more you make with multiple viewers, and now I have totally changed my thinking. Exclusive lower than private saves my sanity, but private lower than exclusive boosts my income alot. And right now, to me, income is more important. Hope that helped a little anyway.

Missbeth
01-12-2015, 04:57 PM
You mean making your premium rate higher than exclusive to cut down on peepers? I did this the other day but have only been doing gold shows. Not sure how it will go.

I've done this 9.99 pvt/5.99 exclusive
The first day I did the minute I changed it a drunk guy with a very high limit took me private haha!!!! But after that I didn't have too much luck with it... It was super annoying having a guy ask me why my privet was more expensive that my exclusive evry 2 mins... Also in my expirence I made less because you can only have that one guy in exclusive whereas if I was in pvt I sometimes have multiple guys
I know the peepers are annoying but when they get caught that extra $2 my cut for 33secs adds up so I take the good with the bad

anonymous camgirl
01-12-2015, 05:01 PM
The things that make you go hmmm?


Ive experimented with rates over ten dollars before, (after streaming for like an hour with traffic but no buyers). What i noticed was completely new screen names i had never seen before. Coincidence, or is sm sending me the guys who they know will pay?

anonymous camgirl
01-12-2015, 05:03 PM
Yea they did that like a week ago and changed it back.


Four girls per row ... or is just me ???

Marina Starr
01-12-2015, 05:55 PM
I hear you, girl but I make more money and too greedy to have exclusive lower than private. I've accepted that there will always be peepers but when I have three or more guys in private at once, those fuckers don't even matter!
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/ArlhK_zpsezhi9jgo.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/ArlhK_zpsezhi9jgo.gif.html)

I'm curious how many of you make your premium rate higher than exclusive and how well it works for you. I'm seriously considering this because I'm just fed up with all of the peeping during my shows...it's getting RIDICULOUS! Like I'll be in a show for 2 minutes and have 5 or more people pop in and out in that amount of time ridiculous!

I could really use some advice on this! I'm going crazy!!

Marina Starr
01-12-2015, 06:07 PM
YEEEEEEES, sweet as a Georgia peach but with a strong pit inside. Love that, heeeeeeey Miss sweetgapeach ;D


I kept my exclusive lower than private for the first two years at least, just from reading on here, thinking it would be the best route. Then I read a post somewhere that Sarah posted about how much more you make with multiple viewers, and now I have totally changed my thinking. Exclusive lower than private saves my sanity, but private lower than exclusive boosts my income alot. And right now, to me, income is more important. Hope that helped a little anyway.

SoloDesire
01-12-2015, 06:51 PM
Thank you ladies so much for sharing your experiences and advice! I've always felt the same way because I have multiple people in private. But this last couple weeks have really worn on me...like way more peeping than usual for me. It never used to bother me, but it's been getting to me lately not gonna lie. I will take your advice and keep my prices where they're at...I'll just have to take better mental notes at all the one pump chumps that try to get one over on me. Love you girls!

JessaBelle
01-12-2015, 07:20 PM
It would be nice if we could ban the douchebags after they leave the room, but for me their names aren't clickable from the screen, and they aren't in the room list anymore to ban. :(

SarahTime
01-12-2015, 09:12 PM
I kept my exclusive lower than private for the first two years at least, just from reading on here, thinking it would be the best route. Then I read a post somewhere that Sarah posted about how much more you make with multiple viewers, and now I have totally changed my thinking. Exclusive lower than private saves my sanity, but private lower than exclusive boosts my income alot. And right now, to me, income is more important. Hope that helped a little anyway.

Yes lol I was just going to say it again... I HAAAAATE the peepers with a passion, however, I have found that many guys that DO want a show, don't want to initiate. They want a show but they just want to watch and not be put on the spot (that's the impression I've gotten anyway). So they wait until someone else enters private, then they come in also. It's not uncommon for me to get 3-5 guys in a show at a time! Even if some of them only stay a few minutes, it adds up FAST. So, I feel like it kind of makes up for all the peepers.

But yes, sometimes it just gets ridiculous! I have times where I'm in private for a couple minutes but it's all peepers. I have to take a break when that happens or I'll just lose my shit. lol :)

brittany_bitch
01-13-2015, 02:35 AM
I want to have good placement I am usually mid or low front page during the day always on 2 for some reason but I have never had more than 30 percent in paid a day and have always maintained front page at least.
I was only in paid like 10 percent the other day for 3 hours but once I got more privates I could have gotten to at least 16 which is a normal for me.
I stayed busy and got long privates and exclus at 6.99 and 799 but it would take nearly 8 hours to make my new goal and 10 for old goal and i changed my goal to where i only need 4 hours chat a week and instead of 12 hours a day I will work friday saturday and sunday up to 12 or until I reach an hour in chat. That means all I need for the weeks 4 days is one hour total and 15 mins a day of chat so I will work up to 5 1/2 hours weekdays for that. To me it won't be busy but I don't mind waiting for someone to spend because they will spend. I find I get alot more gold tips now to from cheapos so I guess thats a plus too. I am hoping it works out and I would make more than I would for one hour which took about 6 hours before but this time I will make double that just waiting a while longer. I will experiment and let u all know how it turns out of it gives me my goal I think I will stick with it.

CurvyWinona
01-13-2015, 05:40 AM
I hate the 30 second peekers with a passion, but I have learned just to ignore them. Let them keep coming in and fap for 15 seconds for all I care. I am not going to ruin the show due to scrambling to ban the peekers. Very few of them end up buying the shows with me.

LadyJezebel
01-13-2015, 09:00 AM
I've been getting a lot of 30 second peepers too! Like more than usual and it's really getting on me too because they leave just before they're charged in most instances. People have been more demanding all the way around in the last week. Was SM really slow last night for anyone? I think I was off my game as well though..admit that.

JessaBelle
01-13-2015, 09:22 AM
Yes, zero for me last night after 3 hours. :(

CurvyWinona
01-13-2015, 09:43 AM
So damned slow this morning too.... but I got a new sign up from a c4s custie today. Its so slow, that I ended up joining few gold shows to enjoy while waiting for a pvt. =/

LadyJezebel
01-13-2015, 11:27 AM
So damned slow this morning too.... but I got a new sign up from a c4s custie today. Its so slow, that I ended up joining few gold shows to enjoy while waiting for a pvt. =/

I need to get a C4S and all around start selling videos. I haven't yet I'm slacking with that. It just Feels like such a process with editing..but Hey its worth it to capitalize on any possible income. I also have a Mac and I've read about some ladies having issues with videos on mac.

I also didn't get any new twitter followers last night which has been rare

justanothercamgirl
01-13-2015, 01:00 PM
Thank you ladies so much for sharing your experiences and advice! I've always felt the same way because I have multiple people in private. But this last couple weeks have really worn on me...like way more peeping than usual for me. It never used to bother me, but it's been getting to me lately not gonna lie. I will take your advice and keep my prices where they're at...I'll just have to take better mental notes at all the one pump chumps that try to get one over on me. Love you girls!

My two cents.....I've got my premium higher then my exclusive because I freaking hate peepers. For me, they mentally burn me and ruin my mood which causes me to make less money so for me it makes more sense to reverse the price.

For those girls who got their 'Peeper Zen' going.....I salute you. Since my patience ain't as pretty I just go with whatever keeps me smiling on camera the longest. ;)

Marina Starr
01-13-2015, 03:04 PM
Just in case anyone wonders, SM will start sending out 1099 for 2014 at the end of January. I was told of such when I contacted support.

ArayaBlows
01-13-2015, 07:21 PM
is it me or is traffic just going downhill. I'm in the trans category and I for some reason I can hardly scramble 20 dollars.

Marina Starr
01-13-2015, 08:01 PM
Traffic has dropped all across the board but it will pick up. Try to branch out and apply with other sites!

is it me or is traffic just going downhill. I'm in the trans category and I for some reason I can hardly scramble 20 dollars.

DeepThoughts
01-14-2015, 02:35 AM
My two cents.....I've got my premium higher then my exclusive because I freaking hate peepers. For me, they mentally burn me and ruin my mood which causes me to make less money so for me it makes more sense to reverse the price.

For those girls who got their 'Peeper Zen' going.....I salute you. Since my patience ain't as pretty I just go with whatever keeps me smiling on camera the longest. ;)

Peepers used to make me crazy but the thing is that it cant work forever. Eventually peeping for a few seconds isnt going to get them off and they are going to have to pay for it. Or, they are never going to have enough money so they will move on to the universe of free porn available on the web.

This is only when Im not PMSing though, when Im PMSing I tend to lose it and make a big deal out of trying to catch them and block their asses ;)

AliceFun
01-14-2015, 03:47 AM
Looks like they keep the setting as four girls per row which means page one is just shorter and more difficult to get on, i was middle of page one & now i jump to page two. Dont like this!

Glamourmilf
01-14-2015, 09:34 AM
Did anyone NOt get there check this week, or is it just my time to not get it? it's the first time in 4 yrs. What is the procedure in getting a new one sent asap? Do I email them or liz?
or both?

Thanks, im moving in 2 weeks, and was needing this for my moving costs.

Marina Starr
01-14-2015, 10:13 AM
I got my direct deposit yesterday from Payoneer but this had happened to me before. Give it until Friday then you can request for them to issue from your account!

Did anyone NOt get there check this week, or is it just my time to not get it? it's the first time in 4 yrs. What is the procedure in getting a new one sent asap? Do I email them or liz?
or both?

Thanks, im moving in 2 weeks, and was needing this for my moving costs.

justanothercamgirl
01-14-2015, 10:16 AM
Peepers used to make me crazy but the thing is that it cant work forever. Eventually peeping for a few seconds isnt going to get them off and they are going to have to pay for it. Or, they are never going to have enough money so they will move on to the universe of free porn available on the web.

This is only when Im not PMSing though, when Im PMSing I tend to lose it and make a big deal out of trying to catch them and block their asses ;)

I've actually had the (bad) luck of meeting a proud peeper in the past who wasn't aware of my being a camgirl. He pretty much explained to me that what he gets off on is the 'getting one over on the dumb whore for free' and not the actual show he was peeping on. :/

JessaBelle
01-14-2015, 12:31 PM
Yep, cuz they know they USUALLY can't see FREE pussy in FREE chat, but they can hop into your room for a few seconds and see it for free, or take a screen shot of it for free that 30 seconds and bam, they got one over on ya. I've seriously thought about covering up for the 30 seconds when someone else peeps. That takes away from the client who is actually paying, but atleast the peepers won't get a free show for 30 seconds. And they can keep coming in and out over and over .. which to me is distracting and dries me up quick.

chickchick8182
01-14-2015, 01:04 PM
Quick question...does anyone know if SM accepts prints of your ID? Idk if it's everywhere, but in my state when you renew ID/DL they give you a printout and mail your actual ID.