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MsBellaSpanxx
02-08-2015, 02:11 PM
I have the same guys do this every single day over and over, and over again, come in and pop out over and over, its like WTF. I personally think from the way I watch cam girls ( I love them ok, you bitches are sexy as fuck) anyways I am a multiple tab girl, so I will go and open like 6 tabs and then, close them one by one deciding on who I am feeling the most attracted to or captivated by, but for the average cam customer who does this I am pretty sure they are multiple tabbing it to see whos got the most nudity to offer.
Bet if you were naked in free chat he would be able to get his comp to work just fine...
You are probably on his favorites and he likes you but doesn't wanna pay for shit so he just cycles through his faves hoping to catch a free flash paid for by someone else
I have zero patience for guys like that and end up banning them. The annoyance distracts me from my PAYING customers. ;)
shysara79
02-08-2015, 02:33 PM
Quick question ladies, for those of you that use the encoder, do you know why my bitrate shows that I am at 800 to a 1000 yet my frame rate never allows me to go past 15 even if I manually set it as higher in the encoder. I tried everything that I can think of. Thanks in advance!
PurpleLily
02-08-2015, 03:12 PM
Quick question ladies, for those of you that use the encoder, do you know why my bitrate shows that I am at 800 to a 1000 yet my frame rate never allows me to go past 15 even if I manually set it as higher in the encoder. I tried everything that I can think of. Thanks in advance!
If you have a logitech... try unplugging/plugging cam back in. If all else fails, do that and restart your computer. The c920 does that to me sometimes..
Vlodina
02-08-2015, 03:13 PM
Quick question ladies, for those of you that use the encoder, do you know why my bitrate shows that I am at 800 to a 1000 yet my frame rate never allows me to go past 15 even if I manually set it as higher in the encoder. I tried everything that I can think of. Thanks in advance!
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(Sorry, I misread!)
shysara79
02-08-2015, 03:35 PM
Thanks ladies, I do have a logitech and have tried everything including unplugging and restarting. I even deleted and reinstalled the encoder. it is so odd! I have no issues with bitrate, just FPS
hyori
02-08-2015, 03:57 PM
Quick question ladies, for those of you that use the encoder, do you know why my bitrate shows that I am at 800 to a 1000 yet my frame rate never allows me to go past 15 even if I manually set it as higher in the encoder. I tried everything that I can think of. Thanks in advance!
Have you tried deleting the .xml file and replacing it with one that has the settings you want? If you have an i7 processor you can max out on pretty much all the settings.
shysara79
02-08-2015, 05:08 PM
Yes even when I manually go in and put it at 29.97 it still states that I am only running at 15 fps on the encoder log. Im afraid that it may be damaging my placement, but hell who knows! Thanks for trying to assist guys! Hope your all having a great Sunday!
Snowy0Star
02-08-2015, 05:32 PM
have u tired un/re installing the encoder ?
hyori
02-08-2015, 05:36 PM
Yes even when I manually go in and put it at 29.97 it still states that I am only running at 15 fps on the encoder log. Im afraid that it may be damaging my placement, but hell who knows! Thanks for trying to assist guys! Hope your all having a great Sunday!
Also check your cam splitter settings if you are using a splitter. Sounds like something is capping your fps.
shysara79
02-08-2015, 05:45 PM
I don't split cam and yes I already tried installing and reinstalling. I guess I will give it a go one more time and delete/install again. I am using windows 8.1 and encoder 3.1.
AliceFun
02-08-2015, 06:16 PM
Quick question ladies, for those of you that use the encoder, do you know why my bitrate shows that I am at 800 to a 1000 yet my frame rate never allows me to go past 15 even if I manually set it as higher in the encoder. I tried everything that I can think of. Thanks in advance!
I had a camera that was not supporting 30 fps when using it directly with the encoder (Creative bit older model), the only way i could get 30 fps was to use manycam, the splitcam software, then it stayed at 30 fps & if connection went bad my bitrate would drop but never the fps.
In between i upgraded camera to logitech c920 & i use it to work on SM with the encoder (without splitting), i get from 16 to 30 fps there even if i set it to 30, not sure why is doing this but that's how it works. I sometimes get 30 fps, then drops to 24 then to 16 & back up, etc. If i use manycam i stay at 30 fps all the time. Go figure.
Also for the ones in countries that are far away USA, the 'Round trip' (Ping) affects ur connection in the way that no matter how high u set bitrate, if the 'Round trip' is high (the signal travels a lot to SM servers located in Seattle USA) u'll get a much lower number in Ranking page (bitrate section), there is nothing u can do about it, unfortunately we are just soo far away :(
AliceFun
02-08-2015, 06:58 PM
Now i need ur input ladies regarding Geo restrictions on SM, i am thinking about blocking a region at least so i dont show up in the models list anymore & be seen by registered members only, this way i would feel less stressed about who is actually watching me, i have this idea in my mind that i am maybe watched by underage people or people i know, i cant relax & tease more in freechat because of this reason.
But then i know my placement will tank, now i sit on page one middle/ bottom to page two up/middle depending on how many girls are online but i was told i could jump to page 3 eventually, somebody i know tried this and told me about it.
Also i dont have a member account to check myself where i am listed & dont wanna ask my members about it really, if they have me in their favorites that answer would be irrelevant anyway, not going to ask them to take me off favorites to look me up in the main list lol, they might forget to put me back haha.
I am not part of the popular/ top models 'league' either so i dont think i would miss the 'promotion' SM & it's affiliates could do for me, i dont think i fit the profile to be promoted anyway, still i do care about placement.
What do u reckon, could i make more money if i was less inhibited? I feel i could but i am thinking of placement factor. Advice pls? Ty!
kortneykay
02-08-2015, 07:53 PM
^^^Some promoters do go out on a limb but most don't. The affiliates with whitelabels just pimp out their site and whoever the guy fancies he will check out and spend. Whitelabels are all just mocks of sm's old website format. I've seen a few affiliates promote my link on their twitter but that was about it. I believe geo restrictions are bad for your bottom line which is money. I understand your feelings towards underage customers but I'd leave the worry up to SM.
As a model, you aren't liable for chargebacks and underage viewers unless you physically see one on C2C which you should then report. Other than that, not your problem. I know it sounds messed up that you could be exposing your bits to underage visitors but who's to say 50% of your customers aren't using daddy's credit card anyway? That's like being afraid that each and every single show you do will be charged back. Too stressful, bb! By being a model and following sm's rules you're doing all that you can.
Fuck placement bb, we're talking about your income here. Don't do anything to fuck that up just because you assume that you're audience is underage. That's SM's problem. Bottom line: Geo fucks with your earnings and doesn't even protect you from being found out. Kind of pointless if you ask me. Without extra promotion your sales would be even less. That's the beauty of having multiple sites.
hyori
02-08-2015, 07:59 PM
I used geo restriction for awhile and didn't really notice a difference in earnings but i did go down in placement. I would say just try it out, you can always remove it if it really affects your earnings.
LaylaLovely
02-08-2015, 08:04 PM
I had no geo restriction for a few weeks because I forgot to turn it on... Same amount of money..less peepers . I only have 1 state blocked
Even with geoblock on guys can find you if logged in you just now don't have freeloaders (no members logged in) seeing your feed
Sunnylexie
02-08-2015, 08:49 PM
Thanks ladies, I do have a logitech and have tried everything including unplugging and restarting. I even deleted and reinstalled the encoder. it is so odd! I have no issues with bitrate, just FPS
Do you have the software that came with the cam instlaled? If yes, try getting more light. Also, make sure your clothes and background aren't too dark (e.g. showing ass in black pants or skirt close to cam lowers fps on both my c920 and bcc950 to 24 or even 15).
AliceFun
02-08-2015, 08:59 PM
Even with geoblock on guys can find you if logged in you just now don't have freeloaders (no members logged in) seeing your feed
That's what i actually need geo block for, while i know how many registered members are in my room, I DONT KNOW how many other guys are watching & wanking for free as invisible guests, the underage people PLUS the free wankers are the reason i wanna geo block, to know for sure who sees my feed. Of course geo block wont protect me 100% from all of the above but it helps with my peace of mind.
Guess what? i some time ago opened a model account on one of these european sites, xlove or something & there was a guy typing to me in freechat (they dont need a credit card to register with, just a valid email): "i know u from the other site u work on and ur name there is 'my cam name' but was never able to type to u, just watched u and had my fun here' aka jerking for free.
Well, that pissed me off more than anything u know... is not that i feel is my responsibility that minors could be watching me, is the fact that I KNOW they might watch PLUS the free wankers & models without member accounts, unless somebody knows my exact cam name & how to use my cam model address they cant see me.
I would just feel more comfy to know certain people are not able to watch me.
I'll try this & if i feel it's affecting my income i'll take the geo block off, i'll also inform my regulars about the change, to make sure they logged in so they can see if i am online or not when looking for me. Ty for input babes xxx
SarahTime
02-08-2015, 10:37 PM
Alice - I don't know if it will fix your issue with not knowing how many people are viewing you if you geoblock. Signing up an account is totally free so anyone can do it even without a valid credit card. Then, SM has this option where you can simply hover over a room to view the guest chat area, without ever actually entering the room! So people are still watching you that you don't know about.
If at all possible I wokld just try to accept it as part of the job. People will always be watching that you don't know about, unfortunately.
AliceFun
02-08-2015, 11:38 PM
Signing up an account is totally free so anyone can do it even without a valid credit card.
Oh?! I knew SM require a valid credit or debit card to approve an account?! That's what i was told by many members, they needed to provide a valid card data to prove their age, no matter if the card had money on it or not, of course it's free as u not billed but u still need the card right?
And u need to be in one of the countries where access is not restricted like in mine's. Please correct me if i am wrong?! Also I was told by SM staff that in my case, even if i tried to sign up with them they wont approve my membership considering my location, my country is blocked by default regarding access in free chat & memberships, u can only watch free chat rooms using proxy or vpn.
ETA: i dont mind people hoovering & watching me if they registered members, i think the 'hoovering' option is only available to registered members that are also logged in their member account?! That's how i understood this option here?! Am i right?
ETA2: and if u dont need the card how u register then, with an email account only?! I cant even check on it cause as i said, my country is blocked, i cant access the registration page at all & if i try to register using proxy/vpn i see the 1st registration page where they ask for a valid email address, name where it says "THE NAME ON YOUR CREDIT CARD" then the country, i assume if they state the name must be the one on ur CC u really need a credit card right?
Pls enlighten me Ty!
MelantheDivine
02-09-2015, 02:17 AM
Ha ha, your comments above make me laugh so much!
Do you ever wonder whether you are being asked 'trick' questions by guys in free chat? The other evening I was asked if I prefer dogs or horses or other small furry animals only to find out later that the guy was going to fuck which ever one I said was my fav. Then another guy asked me if I prefer a pin dick or a 9" hard cock....he had a pin dick and wanted me to laugh at it. I'm kind of getting used to saying that I like everything if the question is suitable and ignoring the ones that aren't.
I can't get over how much traffic and privates vary in number from one night to the next. Just as I was getting used to some nice $70 and $90 dollar evenings, only doing two to three hours, I suddenly get a couple of $20 evenings. What was more annoying was that I actually thought I looked better and had spent more time doing my make-up and such like. I think the evenings that I just wore my T-shirt dress, I got taken private more than on the evenings that I put my sexy numbers on!
Oh and yes, I realise that our job is to make men cum lol, but hasn't anyone told these SM members that it's not polite to cum within 20 seconds of taking me private? Honestly, last night was crazy and I was only just getting my nipples out...I was like "is this me looking extra hot tonight or is SM having a premature ejaculation event?"
Then there are those guys who 'nearly' take me private every evening, but I can't do the "shame on you" movement with my index fingers? Any ideas or is it just me being from the UK? He even sent me a link to see how it was done lol! However, he does like listening to me 'tutt!'
So right now, I want to know why it's SO dead sometimes, why I get barely ANY privates sometimes, despite looking (in my opinion and according to feedback) VERY hot and whether there is a 'trick' I'm missing to keeping guys in private for longer?
I still haven't been paid yet either, after four weeks, due to an issue connecting my Payoneer to my SM account...don't ask! I've been getting so stressed about it as have bills to pay. Oh and who is Vanessa? A couple of you have mentioned that I should talk to her?
Love this forum and the honesty I read in your messages.
xxx
IvyAdams
02-09-2015, 04:42 AM
Oh?! I knew SM require a valid credit or debit card to approve an account?! That's what i was told by many members, they needed to provide a valid card data to prove their age, no matter if the card had money on it or not, of course it's free as u not billed but u still need the card right?
You don't have to have a CC to sign up. That's the difference between the boxes that are labeled "Guest chat" and "Free Chat" People who show up in your guest chat are the ones who have a CC on file, and the free chat area is where they do not have any form of payment method on file.
SoloDesire
02-09-2015, 06:27 AM
You don't have to have a CC to sign up. That's the difference between the boxes that are labeled "Guest chat" and "Free Chat" People who show up in your guest chat are the ones who have a CC on file, and the free chat area is where they do not have any form of payment method on file.
This is true. Although anyone who signs up from Streamate directly is required to put in credit card details, there are white labels who let people sign up without a credit card (this is your 'free chat' section).
SarahTime
02-09-2015, 06:56 AM
^^yes, that's what I meant Alice - some white labels don't require a card at all! :-/
AliceFun
02-09-2015, 07:00 AM
Ty for input babes, i forgot to mention i dont have the 'free chat' enabled at all, not going to talk to people that are not registered with CC, what i called 'Free Chat' it was meant to be the 'Guest chat'; also i dont offer gold shows but very very rarely i might try one but i did not enable TV GS's so no need for that 'free chat' third window.
So people that are able to come in Guest chat still need a Credit Card to register with as i knew already.
I still dont know what happens with that 3rd option, the 'Free Chat' when i geo block and i deactivated it in my account settings, from what i know, if active, in that last chat window we can talk with non-registered guests BUT we NOT allowed to promote our cammodels link to make them register thru it.
I am not sure if i can still be seen by people who did not register with Credit Cards when i geo block & deactivate that 3rd 'free chat' option, that's what i wanna know.
I hope it makes sense, i get lost myself in translation haha.
temptingmodel
02-09-2015, 10:07 AM
Im not sure if it geo blocks
I accept the free chat but don't pay attention to that window.
I blocked on state because I feel alot of the studios are there and you get some of those people who can't leave well enough alone and have to come in and do a show to see what you do and then leave and rate you a 1 just so their girl stays on top.
I might as well have blocked the whole damn universe. You can't tell me 95% of my traffic was coming from that one state!!!!!! I call bullshit.
temptingmodel
02-09-2015, 10:21 AM
I blocked on state because I feel alot of the studios are there and you get some of those people who can't leave well enough alone and have to come in and do a show to see what you do and then leave and rate you a 1 just so their girl stays on top.
I might as well have blocked the whole damn universe. You can't tell me 95% of my traffic was coming from that one state!!!!!! I call bullshit.
I never thought of this.
shysara79
02-09-2015, 01:22 PM
Do you have the software that came with the cam instlaled? If yes, try getting more light. Also, make sure your clothes and background aren't too dark (e.g. showing ass in black pants or skirt close to cam lowers fps on both my c920 and bcc950 to 24 or even 15).
What's odd is that it does not even fluctuate, it just stays steady at 15 fps. I am also in the US for those that asked about my location.
also I use a logitech 9000
Marina Starr
02-09-2015, 04:25 PM
I need help :)
I keep getting disconnected every 15 minutes or less. My cam would blink and I would get the attached alert. I have the Logitech C920. My internet is good. Is it time for a new cam or am I missing something?
kortneykay
02-09-2015, 04:25 PM
You actually don't need a CC, an account, anything to see us at all. Anyone can go to any of the sites, click on your photo, and just watch. No account, no CC, no anything.
Source: My estranged husband stalks my feed all the time and doesn't have an account. He does know my cm link by heart though.
AliceFun
02-09-2015, 04:51 PM
^^^ Right, just 2 important things i talked about in my posts: if you geo block u dont appear in model list on SM main site plus affiliates at all so nobody can click ur photo & see your feed this way (that's what geo blocking does actually, takes you out of model listings for people that are not logged in/ dont have a membership) & 2nd thing, if somebody knows ur cam name & know how to use cm link there is nothing u can do about it, yes they can watch in invisible guest mode.
I just wanna cut on the volume of people who can see me for free, i only want registered with credit card people to see me, if possible :)
Mare, u blocked a state in USA or another country u mean?
JuliaX
02-09-2015, 05:35 PM
What's odd is that it does not even fluctuate, it just stays steady at 15 fps. I am also in the US for those that asked about my location.
also I use a logitech 9000
You can try to change the settings in your Logitech software. Set it to medium resolution (I cannot remember how they look like with the 9000 but if you have 640x480 then lower it it to 420xsomething or alike), it might help.
SoloDesire
02-09-2015, 06:44 PM
I need help :)
I keep getting disconnected every 15 minutes or less. My cam would blink and I would get the attached alert. I have the Logitech C920. My internet is good. Is it time for a new cam or am I missing something?
I'm not real sure, but I would suspect the cam. When I was having problems with my old cam it would blink like that too.
Marina Starr
02-09-2015, 07:30 PM
Thanks, BB! I thought so too. It's now on sale for $74.99 at Best Buy. I'll buy it and use it as a tax write off 100% :)
I'm not real sure, but I would suspect the cam. When I was having problems with my old cam it would blink like that too.
Sunnylexie
02-09-2015, 09:10 PM
I need help :)
I keep getting disconnected every 15 minutes or less. My cam would blink and I would get the attached alert. I have the Logitech C920. My internet is good. Is it time for a new cam or am I missing something?
It can be either the cam (probably the cable) or the usb port. You could try a different port or move the cable around and find the right position (won't solve the problem if the cable is broken, but at least will let you use it for a while before you get a new one).
Marina Starr
02-09-2015, 09:18 PM
This may sound odd but it usually only happens when I cam at night. It rarely happens during the morning/day. I have a pretty new Mac Pro with two USB ports so I doubt that both of them are bad. I've had the cam for almost three years now.
It can be either the cam (probably the cable) or the usb port. You could try a different port or move the cable around and find the right position (won't solve the problem if the cable is broken, but at least will let you use it for a while before you get a new one).
CarlaCainXXX
02-09-2015, 09:48 PM
Does anybody know how to see what other models are charging for their Private and Exclusive rates on SM without signing up as a credit card member? I'm a camgirl of about 3 weeks now and have no idea what anybody else is actually charging b/c if I go to the website w/o signing up I can only see everyobdy's profiles but no prices.
IvyRose
02-09-2015, 09:49 PM
Ty for input babes, i forgot to mention i dont have the 'free chat' enabled at all, not going to talk to people that are not registered with CC, what i called 'Free Chat' it was meant to be the 'Guest chat'; also i dont offer gold shows but very very rarely i might try one but i did not enable TV GS's so no need for that 'free chat' third window.
So people that are able to come in Guest chat still need a Credit Card to register with as i knew already.
I still dont know what happens with that 3rd option, the 'Free Chat' when i geo block and i deactivated it in my account settings, from what i know, if active, in that last chat window we can talk with non-registered guests BUT we NOT allowed to promote our cammodels link to make them register thru it.
I am not sure if i can still be seen by people who did not register with Credit Cards when i geo block & deactivate that 3rd 'free chat' option, that's what i wanna know.
I hope it makes sense, i get lost myself in translation haha.
I hope I understand your question, so iam giving a usefull answer.. I do have geoblocking on and the 'Free chat'(so the one below guest chat) is not used, since people Have to log in to see me, unless they do know my direct link... If they do know my direct link they can watch me even if they arent logged in, they cannot talk to me though. My free chat is always empty, prob bec of geoblock, its shut off
A friend of mine lives in the country I have blocked, and he can only visit my room using my direct link, he doesnt see me at the main page (so the geoblock works) and he also cannot find me using the search option.
I am only visible at the mainpage for logged in members
I dont know if registered members are signed up with creditcard only, or if they can sign up without it, clueless about that.
Sunnylexie
02-09-2015, 09:56 PM
This may sound odd but it usually only happens when I cam at night. It rarely happens during the morning/day. I have a pretty new Mac Pro with two USB ports so I doubt that both of them are bad. I've had the cam for almost three years now.
Then it might be the cam. 910s and 920s tend to overheat, maybe that's the issue?
AliceFun
02-09-2015, 09:59 PM
Thank you Ivy, yes ur answer is very helpful, that's what i needed to know here, Thank You!
So i get that the third chat (free chat) is empty because of geoblock BUT u have it enabled in ur settings right?
This is very important cause then i know if the geoblock blocks that free chat even u have it enabled.
Mine is disabled from the settings.
IvyRose
02-09-2015, 10:06 PM
Yes I do have it enabled, at first I never understood why I didnt had any free chat guys inside my room since I didnt blocked it, but now it makes sense -> geoblock
AliceFun
02-09-2015, 10:12 PM
OMG Thank You!! This is the answer i wanted, i needed to make sure how it works. I love you! :)
IvyRose
02-09-2015, 10:16 PM
Glad I could help! =)
Kitcatt
02-10-2015, 01:19 AM
Does anybody know how to see what other models are charging for their Private and Exclusive rates on SM without signing up as a credit card member? I'm a camgirl of about 3 weeks now and have no idea what anybody else is actually charging b/c if I go to the website w/o signing up I can only see everyobdy's profiles but no prices.
If you go to http://www.reviewmycam.com/ you can at least see what they are charging for pvt chat.
LadyJezebel
02-10-2015, 02:03 AM
GUYS..who else is having connection issues like CRAZY?!!? I've had custies that keep getting disconnected multiple times. Luckily they're good at getting back on with me, but still it's a turn off and could be hurting my income. I don't get kicked off myself so I feel like SM has me on a shitty server. I told the last guy to get in touch with support since they can more directly than us. Is it about time I message support as well? It's ridiculous lol
But, with that being said, things have been great!
LadyJezebel
02-10-2015, 02:32 AM
Also techy issue..I use the pre-set medium settings for the encoder. The bitrate in the encoder is set to 950 kbps but I only stream at about 450 :// I'm not sure if it's due to me not using the recommended settings (or ones I make myself..not sure how to do that), or that my computer can't handle running a higher bitrate level?
xxtinamariexx
02-10-2015, 06:49 AM
I don't split cam and yes I already tried installing and reinstalling. I guess I will give it a go one more time and delete/install again. I am using windows 8.1 and encoder 3.1.
The only way I was able to fix my issues was to use chrome instead of firefox. any issue I had.. it seems was with the browser. I haven't had any issues since switching
kortneykay
02-10-2015, 08:07 AM
^^^ Right, just 2 important things i talked about in my posts: if you geo block u dont appear in model list on SM main site plus affiliates at all so nobody can click ur photo & see your feed this way (that's what geo blocking does actually, takes you out of model listings for people that are not logged in/ dont have a membership) & 2nd thing, if somebody knows ur cam name & know how to use cm link there is nothing u can do about it, yes they can watch in invisible guest mode.
I just wanna cut on the volume of people who can see me for free, i only want registered with credit card people to see me, if possible :)
Mare, u blocked a state in USA or another country u mean?
I understand what you mean. I didn't know that geo blocking allows models not to be seen in the model list. I do have a hard time finding some girls when they're looking for placement but if no one could be found; girls with geo blocking wouldn't make any money. I just don't allow free members to watch me without a CC, though people can still watch if they try hard enough.
RubyRapture
02-10-2015, 11:27 AM
I wanted to let you ladies know about this type of scamming. I don't ever give vids out, so I caught this asshat. Check if the guy spent on you before you send videos out.
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