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LaylaLovely
02-15-2015, 10:05 PM
^^ my traffic has been the same from both my new model statuses before and after I switched to dp...I joined sm maybe in November ..I actually ruined my new model status the first time around this time I am taking advantage of it but my money is still the same.. It is worst but it has climbed up now that all my hours and favorites transferred.. I do have a lot more traffic since I didn't sabotage my new model status but more guys in my room never means more money.. At least for me

Ms.Lacey
02-15-2015, 10:09 PM
KK there is obviously an issue with your account that you need to ask Katy and/or Liz about. I would bother with support because they fucking suck.

smaddy
02-15-2015, 10:26 PM
Perhaps someone who's dealt with this before can be of some help. Just so you know, I'm a little under the influence and this is more like a rant morphed into a question so if this doesn't make sense I'm apologizing now in advance! I'm frustrated and I don't understand what is going on. I've reached out to SM but no one seems to know how to fix my problem.

I've just switched over to a DP studio and my new account went live on the 4th. I have yet to get the benefits of the New Model tag and my "Time Online" on SM still says 0.00 as if I never put any hours in this month. I literally cannot find myself under "New Models" and neither can my friends.

Whatever is going on my placement and earnings are suffering from this particular site. I've been testing things out so I've only plugged in about 14.18 hours (which its not even showing still) but I'm not sure if this is normal for a studio, or if I'm doing something wrong on my end.

My lighting, internet, appearance is all spot on but I'm either not getting enough exposure or this is just a shitty week. I get maybe 1-4 guys in my room at the same time (old favs I believe) with long spurts of emptiness as if I don't even exist, lol.

I understand that our job has ups and downs, slow weeks and fast weeks and I see a LOT of bbs feeling the shaft this week. However, comparing when I first signed up as a "new girl" to this time is like a 180. Yes, it's true that I joined about a year ago (so traffic may vary) but I'm more like comparing the difference between traffic in my room under my cammodels account 2 weeks ago, compared to traffic under this new account.

I understand that for other studio girls this could be a sore subject so if you'd prefer to message me here instead; I totally get it and welcome it. I've just really been frustrated the last few days as this is literally the worst I've done on this site since ever. For 14.18 hours I've only made $12.56 or around $178 which is what I usually made in half a full shift. The lowest I usually make in 14.18 hours on SM is about $400-500+ What gives bbs?

I guess I can say that of course someone who's had an account for 1-2 years with all 5 stars and higher ranking will do better than a new girl. But isn't the new girl status supposed to give you MORE traffic?

I know I should be grateful because $12.56 is decent for someone making minimum wage but, damn yo! (lol) When $30 per hour is considered a slow day for you, $12.56 is crumbs!
There's nothing that will humble your ass quicker than realizing maybe you're not as hot as you thought you were, lol. Perhaps this is just karma biting me in the ass for all the bragging I've done in the past :P


Excuse the 4.00 rating. I've only been rated 5 stars once so far and no other ratings have showed up yet. My round trip is usually 100 and bounces.
http://i58.tinypic.com/11vtv9d.jpg

I had something similar happen to me when I created a new account. Liz said that my ratings/comments/etc would be transferred and I would also get new girl status (this was independent, not with a studio).

It was all fine and dandy and I found myself in the new girl page after I first logged in, but then a couple of hours later I was taken off. I contacted support about it and they said that since my ratings and everything was transferred that I wouldn't get new girl status, even though liz said I would. I pointed that out and they had some bullshit generic response again about the transfer. Seems like someone with streamate noticed my account and changed some things once they saw me on the new girl page, because I was on it but quickly removed.

It was really all downhill from there. I wasn't even showing up in many categories of the site. For a while I was even listed in with the Russian girls even though my country was set as US. I struggled to even make minimum wage for a while.

I gave up contacting support because they were absolutely worthless, I was hesitant about bothering Liz, I just didn't want to annoy her. Eventually things magically picked up and my account issues were fixed. I'm pretty certain after this whole fiasco that Streamate adjusts accounts and placement manually.... I wonder how to get their direct email lol.

I would definitely try contacting Liz about your issues. For me, I was hesitant because I wasn't camming super consistently and felt like they wouldn't necessarily want to put in the effort for an inconsistent model. If anything happened now I would be raising hell.

kortneykay
02-15-2015, 10:28 PM
^^^^^^^^Thank you bbs. I thought I was going crazy. I almost chucked it up to a bad week but after almost 2 years on sm my hours vs. money earned rarely vary no matter what. I'm waiting to hear back from everyone. SM said they'd have someone look into it but then sent me a copied and pasted script basically stating that I was the reason my ranking was low. I was thinking along the lines of: "Or you can just fix my issue since it's clearly not me." :D

@Ms.Lacy, I'm getting on that now, thanks for the tip.
@Layla, bb, I wish I was still making the same. I making like 1/3 of what I normally make for the time I've put in so far.

Sunnylexie
02-15-2015, 10:31 PM
Hey ladies, do the sent messages on SM get copied to your associated mailbox? Mine belongs to the studio and I have no access to it.

kortneykay
02-15-2015, 10:38 PM
I had something similar happen to me when I created a new account. Liz said that my ratings/comments/etc would be transferred and I would also get new girl status (this was independent, not with a studio).

It was all fine and dandy and I found myself in the new girl page after I first logged in, but then a couple of hours later I was taken off. I contacted support about it and they said that since my ratings and everything was transferred that I wouldn't get new girl status, even though liz said I would. I pointed that out and they had some bullshit generic response again about the transfer. Seems like someone with streamate noticed my account and changed some things once they saw me on the new girl page, because I was on it but quickly removed.

It was really all downhill from there. I wasn't even showing up in many categories of the site. For a while I was even listed in with the Russian girls even though my country was set as US. I struggled to even make minimum wage for a while.

I gave up contacting support because they were absolutely worthless, I was hesitant about bothering Liz, I just didn't want to annoy her. Eventually things magically picked up and my account issues were fixed. I'm pretty certain after this whole fiasco that Streamate adjusts accounts and placement manually.... I wonder how to get their direct email lol.

I would definitely try contacting Liz about your issues. For me, I was hesitant because I wasn't camming super consistently and felt like they wouldn't necessarily want to put in the effort for an inconsistent model. If anything happened now I would be raising hell.

Thank you, Smaddy for your insight. I feel exactly the same way. I don't want to bother too many people but I'm in the big leagues now and can't afford financial mistakes. I believe the same thing happened to me. On the first night I streamed I did see myself under New Models (I think) because that night 31 guys faved me. As far as someone assuming I wasn't new, that could happen but I manually requested my favs, a break button, and a static image THIS week. I just got my static image and break button 2 days ago. My favs were just added 3-4 days ago and it's been almost 2 weeks since I first signed up. I'm not sure what all is transferred over but so far they only sent over my favs. I'll email Liz to see what she says. I'm hoping they fix it soon because I don't know much more of this I can take. I went from page one to page 7. After 3 hours today I was in paid 2% of the time and 6% for the week. I made $165 on AW in like an hour and made $100 on SM in 7 hours last night. FML. ><

Vlodina
02-16-2015, 01:08 AM
Hey ladies, do the sent messages on SM get copied to your associated mailbox? Mine belongs to the studio and I have no access to it.


Yes they do. Xx

bigbootyjudy1
02-16-2015, 11:19 AM
I find that i make so much more money in classic chat.Is it just me ?What do you ladies think?Oh yea i cater to a lot of fetish dudes :)

Marina Starr
02-16-2015, 11:36 AM
I think some of it is classic but most if it is YOU! I saw you online a few weeks ago and just love your hustle. Major props!
Unless you are doing GS, I don't see a reason why you need to be in party chat but that's just me. I love classic!

I find that i make so much more money in classic chat.Is it just me ?What do you ladies think?Oh yea i cater to a lot of fetish dudes :)

bigbootyjudy1
02-16-2015, 11:50 AM
I think some of it is classic but most if it is YOU! I saw you online a few weeks ago and just love your hustle. Major props!
Unless you are doing GS, I don't see a reason why you need to be in party chat but that's just me. I love classic!

Thanks Marina :).Your right.I actually stop doing gold shows.I actually saw my income double on sm.ill do one a day but im done with the constant goldshows.It attract to much cheap men for me :)

Glamourmilf
02-16-2015, 06:00 PM
^^ I notice a jump in income when I am in classic chat... Prob. because I have mostly fetish custies. I do alot of gs, so I sometimes forget to change it back.

lollydollie
02-16-2015, 06:35 PM
I switched to daily pay too and didn't get new model status. I could find myself on the first page of all the models, but when I click under new models I wasn't up there at all. I've emailed them, and they "assured me" I was but I know 100% I'm not. I just brushed it off. Oh well. I'm just gonna hustle harder

hyori
02-16-2015, 06:45 PM
The only reason I stay in Party chat mode is for the tv gold show offers. That is the only reason, I just realized that now. If they didn't exist I wouldn't even bother.

KatyBoleyn
02-16-2015, 07:03 PM
I switched to daily pay too and didn't get new model status. I could find myself on the first page of all the models, but when I click under new models I wasn't up there at all. I've emailed them, and they "assured me" I was but I know 100% I'm not. I just brushed it off. Oh well. I'm just gonna hustle harder

Liz assured us (several time) it was 14 days, but my theory is that when favorites are transferred it somehow ends the new model status (so it may be a "5000 favorites...or new model" thing). We haven't really had time to investigate the issue with last week's madness, but its on my to-do list. If that's the case, then we'll let the transfer models weigh their options.

smaddy
02-16-2015, 07:28 PM
Liz assured us (several time) it was 14 days, but my theory is that when favorites are transferred it somehow ends the new model status (so it may be a "5000 favorites...or new model" thing). We haven't really had time to investigate the issue with last week's madness, but its on my to-do list. If that's the case, then we'll let the transfer models weigh their options.

When I contacted support they flat our said that becacuse my favorites were transferred that I wasn't eligible for "new girl status" but if i wanted new girl status I could choose between having my favorites transferred, or "new girl" status. I know that someone did change it manually because I was up on the new girl page for a couple of hours. Maybe there is just a miscommunication?

KatyBoleyn
02-16-2015, 08:50 PM
I think its more a matter of the left hand pulls new rules out of their butt that the right hand finds out later.

kortneykay
02-16-2015, 09:32 PM
Liz assured us (several time) it was 14 days, but my theory is that when favorites are transferred it somehow ends the new model status (so it may be a "5000 favorites...or new model" thing). We haven't really had time to investigate the issue with last week's madness, but its on my to-do list. If that's the case, then we'll let the transfer models weigh their options.

I was thinking that too but I know first hand that it can't be that because my new status should've started on the 4th and my favs didn't get transferred over until February 10th.


(As a side note) I haven't been under New Models since day 1 because oddly enough 31 people faved me on the new account that first day because they were only favs I had until now. I haven't had a big chunk of favs like that since which tells me that no one new is really finding me. New models usually get new favs in droves because they are getting more exposure. Now that I have my old favs I haven't even seen but a couple of regs as well.

KatyBoleyn
02-17-2015, 12:50 AM
There is another overall trend working too, SM earnings have dropped across the board about 20-25% since January 15th or so...I don't think its just SM either, most sites have dropped in that time quite a bit. Post holiday spending retraction is what I blame, it should slowly start ramping back up as tax returns roll in.

That being said, my OCD is looking at everyone's time in paid chat percents and there are a few outliers for some dropping a lot more than others. We have one that was hovering along at 45% and suddenly went to 9% in one week. Some of them are high-spending regulars expiring, it happens, but there could be something there. I'll put another math wiz on the case tomorrow while I work the new payment system. By and large though, most models are generally keeping within a few points of their average week to week, and a few have actually gotten some major boosts (one that went from a 6% average last year to 44% for the last 3 weeks). Kortney, if you could email me and give some idea of what your normal percents were that would be good, as we don't have enough history showing to baseline you.

I'm pretty certain now that regular support and Liz's team are each on a different rulebook with the favorites transfers/new model status. I've been told 14 days and 30 days for new model, which at one time for sure had nothing to do with favorites being moved. We've also had favorites moved over in under an hour and others that take a week, with no regard to earnings potential or favoritism that I can figure out.

Sunnylexie
02-17-2015, 06:16 PM
Tried to send a group message, got this:


You recently tried to send a group message (Subject: New outfit!). Unfortunately, your message can't be sent right now for the following reason:

Please remember these messages are intended to encourage users to return to your room. We ask that they be personal, social and friendly. Messages that appear unsolicited or include references to selling, demanding, soliciting, personal information, or anything else deemed inappropriate, will be rejected.

Feel free to submit a new group message that fixes the above issue.

If you have any questions, please contact us.

Wondering how a short message saying I got a new outfit wasn't friendly or was referred to selling, demanding, soliciting, personal information, or anything else inappropriate. Probably I was expected to write an Ode to the Magnificent Erection-Inducing Black Lace Catsuit. I could keep trying but given it takes them 3 days every time to look through it, the outfit's gonna become not so new by the moment they post it. Useless.

kortneykay
02-17-2015, 06:19 PM
My side by side comparison within a few months. Actually Jan was decent as well. Something ain't right!
The top part is my hourly before and the lower half is my hourly now O.o. I'm willing to stick it out and see what happens over the next few weeks.


http://i62.tinypic.com/5mg6b.jpg

Marina Starr
02-17-2015, 06:22 PM
I checked after reading your post and it was gone. I logged out and refreshed and now the money is there.

Did anyone elses earnings disappear for this week? (and all my payment history is gone too). I've put 3 hours in today and suddenly it says ZERO and I'm freaking out! I'm hoping it's just a glitch (my hours online is up to date) but I kind of don't want to log back on cam and do shows til I see it again.

MsBellaSpanxx
02-17-2015, 08:43 PM
I checked after reading your post and it was gone. I logged out and refreshed and now the money is there.

Yeah, I tried to delete my post. I had a nervous breakdown but then refreshed again for the zillionth time and it was there and all was back to normal. (Well, as "normal" as it can get on SM, anyway)

Thank you for checking though! You are a doll!!

Blovely
02-17-2015, 11:44 PM
My premium was 1.99/ exclusive 3.99 for 3yrs cuz I am really dark skinned black and a BBW I was like the hell lets do 3.99 and see what happens this passed summer

Because you're dark skin?????? I'm trying not to get offended by that. Don't ever let your weight or skin tone deter you from charging or feeling like you're worth something. I am dark skin and I charge these dude's up the ass just to see a titty. Nobody can tell me that I can't charge more than $1.99-$3.99 because I am dark skin. I wish someone would say that or try to make me feel that way I'd either block or curse them into oblivion. Our skin is beautiful no matter what people say. If anyone ever try's to make you feel bad because of your skin tone or weight remember that its their problem not yours...they're spewing out insecurity and trying to make themselves feel better by trying to damage you. There is nothing wrong with dark skin, being black, or your weight.

LadyJezebel
02-17-2015, 11:55 PM
I gave up contacting support because they were absolutely worthless

Realer things have never been said!

illuminaughty
02-18-2015, 01:05 AM
does anyone else see a really sharp decline in traffic recently?

Sunnylexie
02-18-2015, 02:26 AM
does anyone else see a really sharp decline in traffic recently?

January's been dead for me but it looks like it's slowly picking up at the moment, at least for me (like 85% of what I used to make rather than 50%, and no more empty chat).

Marina Starr
02-18-2015, 06:56 AM
THIS! It's 2015, love the skin you're in and rock the weight you got! Whatever it is, just fucking own it! I've said this but I'm going to say it again, I wish I was black ;D

Because you're dark skin?????? I'm trying not to get offended by that. Don't ever let your weight or skin tone deter you from charging or feeling like you're worth something. I am dark skin and I charge these dude's up the ass just to see a titty. Nobody can tell me that I can't charge more than $1.99-$3.99 because I am dark skin. I wish someone would say that or try to make me feel that way I'd either block or curse them into oblivion. Our skin is beautiful no matter what people say. If anyone ever try's to make you feel bad because of your skin tone or weight remember that its their problem not yours...they're spewing out insecurity and trying to make themselves feel better by trying to damage you. There is nothing wrong with dark skin, being black, or your weight.

islandsoutherngirl
02-18-2015, 07:23 AM
Same happened to me too. I literally had a mental spazz out session. Was relieved to see it resolved lol.

KatyBoleyn
02-18-2015, 07:58 AM
THIS! It's 2015, love the skin you're in and rock the weight you got! Whatever it is, just fucking own it! I've said this but I'm going to say it again, I wish I was black ;D

We have the numbers to prove that skin tone and size makes ZERO difference in earnings. Its all hustle and attitude...and rates you charge (and just a little bit your video quality). You make yourself cheap, you earn a whole lot of not much.

evielee
02-18-2015, 09:03 AM
Can someone tell me how the phone option works? I signed up for it and assumed that the person paying for the private had to do something. Then the other night I had someone in a prv show and they were getting pissed because they said I had to call them and gave me their phone number. I don't get how it works.

Marina Starr
02-18-2015, 09:38 AM
You can enable the phone option in private or exclusive then the customers can call you by clicking on the phone option on the end. Do not call them even when they offered their numbers.

Can someone tell me how the phone option works? I signed up for it and assumed that the person paying for the private had to do something. Then the other night I had someone in a prv show and they were getting pissed because they said I had to call them and gave me their phone number. I don't get how it works.

Marina Starr
02-18-2015, 09:41 AM
I would believe it! Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Park fought the good fight for equality so that skin tone shouldn't even be an issue.

We have the numbers to prove that skin tone and size makes ZERO difference in earnings. Its all hustle and attitude...and rates you charge (and just a little bit your video quality). You make yourself cheap, you earn a whole lot of not much.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-18-2015, 09:51 AM
Did ya'll know that there's a Husky category on SM? It doesn't show as a selection on the site, but it appears on several ladies profiles. I so would not want be classified as husky. It just sounds all wrong.

Fitandpretty
02-18-2015, 10:48 AM
Did ya'll know that there's a Husky category on SM? It doesn't show as a selection on the site, but it appears on several ladies profiles. I so would not want be classified as husky. It just sounds all wrong.

I thought that was a male term :/. They should change that to curvy

hyori
02-18-2015, 11:21 AM
^^ Maybe it refers to voice?

shysara79
02-18-2015, 11:32 AM
Did ya'll know that there's a Husky category on SM? It doesn't show as a selection on the site, but it appears on several ladies profiles. I so would not want be classified as husky. It just sounds all wrong.

Sometimes I howl when I cum...Maybe that is what they meant :)

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-18-2015, 11:35 AM
No Husky was for the build section. I noticed it before and forgot about it. But last night I looked in the new girl category and few curvy girls were listed as Husky? Maybe they chose the wrong thing when they signed up? I suppose they will figure it out once they no longer appear under the new model tag.

Snowy0Star
02-18-2015, 11:36 AM
40730

Marina Starr
02-18-2015, 11:57 AM
I would prefer the word chubby for a woman. When I hear husky, I think of a manly man. Oy!

40730

Snowy0Star
02-18-2015, 12:02 PM
I would prefer the word chubby for a woman. When I hear husky, I think of a manly man. Oy!

i know me too but the pik was cute and it fits XD

kortneykay
02-18-2015, 12:59 PM
[email protected] But if it brings extra traffic, call me what you like, trick :D

lemonberry
02-18-2015, 04:48 PM
Did ya'll know that there's a Husky category on SM? It doesn't show as a selection on the site, but it appears on several ladies profiles. I so would not want be classified as husky. It just sounds all wrong.

Husky shows up if you select the few extra pounds category. I hate it. It makes me think of the boys clothing size, least it was back in the day.

kortneykay
02-18-2015, 05:01 PM
I'm backkk! WHOOT :D So, it turns out that SM had me in some analytic web of fuck up and it was fixed today. Mysteriously my 4 stars went up to 5, my hours were updated and I'm back in the grace of SM's traffic. Thanks to Katy's Studio and me bugging the hell out of them, I'm back!

SheRides
02-19-2015, 02:27 AM
Page 666, yay! }:D

SM newbie here!
I've made the account somewhere in November and went online uhm... 3 times since? I would stay longer but I can't split, I have ImLive as my main site and ImLive pays me bi-monthly whereas Streamate scares me always with their first 3-week delay after meeting the minimum amount for payment. But I need to get past that at some point, right? Well, for now, I should focus to make my minimum, which I've set to 100. Right now I've got around 50ish dollars made in 3 short sessions, probably 3 hours total, so it looks promising.

But that brings me to my first question: is there any magic way to see the total amount of dollars rotting in my account? Without checking manually each passed week to see when I earned those money? I guess that won't be an issue when I'll start logging in regularly and making past my minimum each week, but for now?

(I really have this feeling that I'll start loving Streamate as soon as I put more hours into it.)

Second question: Since I totally screwed the chance of taking advantage of that new model status and only made this little so far and only got favorited 18 times (17 as of today, a heart disappeared, lol) with no tags and ratings and an average of 4 stars, would you advise closing my account and starting over via Katy Boleyn's daily pay studio? If yes, the photos that I currently have on my profile will be lost and I'll need to upload some new ones as those are Streamate's property now? Or can I use the same photo sets? I'd hate to start over with the photos, but hey, daily pay seems to be worth it.

(Offtopic: I really hope to upgrade my PC soon so I can start splitting. Right now I have a single core CPU clocking in at 3,80 Ghz that was probably the CPU of the year... back in 2005.).

*confused*

Mare
02-19-2015, 05:42 AM
Hoping to get on page 666. :)My guess is this makes it to 667. Yay!!! I made it!!!! LOL

starcraft
02-19-2015, 09:15 AM
can som,eone advice? what should i do? i was banned forever cuz of carder. there was one guy who was keep visiting me past two weeks. and he wqas spending so much. i asked if he was a carder he said no. i asked if he can afford that he said dont worry. he was creating new accounts and he said its bcs of limits. and he said he can do that bcs of diff ip. since i was never a user i really dont know how it works so i was like "ok, at least you have money to spend" today my acc was blocked like it was my fault but it wasnt. it was only one and same person! and i know it was him, cz deep inside i felt some doubtings. what should i do now? i wrote for inquiry and talked with studio owner. ive never had any issues like that. please girls

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-19-2015, 09:21 AM
Whats the name of the studio? And did they tell you that was the reason or are you assuming? Were there a bunch of chargebacks?


can som,eone advice? what should i do? i was banned forever cuz of carder. there was one guy who was keep visiting me past two weeks. and he wqas spending so much. i asked if he was a carder he said no. i asked if he can afford that he said dont worry. he was creating new accounts and he said its bcs of limits. and he said he can do that bcs of diff ip. since i was never a user i really dont know how it works so i was like "ok, at least you have money to spend" today my acc was blocked like it was my fault but it wasnt. it was only one and same person! and i know it was him, cz deep inside i felt some doubtings. what should i do now? i wrote for inquiry and talked with studio owner. ive never had any issues like that. please girls

starcraft
02-19-2015, 09:23 AM
no, they just sended me direct mail from streamate. so they dont hide or discharge me something. its streamate who perma banned me. bcs of that fucker who lied... but was damn nice to me. and my majority of money was made from that guy last week. thats why they blocked. but where it is my fault?

starcraft
02-19-2015, 09:25 AM
and no, no chargebakcs yet. it was only before two weeks. he started visiting me. i have delay of 4 weeks for my salaries

temptingmodel
02-19-2015, 09:45 AM
They will ban performers for suspicious activity and it sounds like he was playing you like a fiddle.
A. Contact your studio owner
B. Contact streamate
C. Contact Liz
CC everyone in the email. Explain what happened. Give your side and the dates and times (if u can remember) he was in your room