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italianstarcamgirl
01-03-2013, 09:16 PM
Is anyone noticing that SM's placement is wonky lately? I'm not complaining I'm just noticing myself personally bouncing around alot. I've maintained my placement on SM with only a row change up or down in the offline models over the past few months. Right before Xmas I was pushed back almost a page in the offline models, then the beginning of this week I was pushed down a few pages but I had taken 8 days off in a row so figured that the reason but then today I was pushed way up - best placement I've ever had - second page of offline models. So I logged in and I did actually have kick ass placement.
I'm noticing significant fluctuations over the past 3 weeks up and down even though my hourly average is not fluctuating.
I am also noticing some girls clearly not using the encoder and hardly in private in the first few rows some even placed higher than "top models."
I know SM placement is a mystery - not asking how its calculated but wondering if any of you other girls are noticing any significant fluctuation in your placement day to day or week to week over the past month or so?
CurvyWinona
01-03-2013, 09:42 PM
^^ I am on the exactly same boat. It sucks big time. Plus there are porn celeb live shows going on past few days... I guess that affects everything, idk. :(
SarahTime
01-03-2013, 09:59 PM
Is anyone noticing that SM's placement is wonky lately? I'm not complaining I'm just noticing myself personally bouncing around alot. I've maintained my placement on SM with only a row change up or down in the offline models over the past few months. Right before Xmas I was pushed back almost a page in the offline models, then the beginning of this week I was pushed down a few pages but I had taken 8 days off in a row so figured that the reason but then today I was pushed way up - best placement I've ever had - second page of offline models. So I logged in and I did actually have kick ass placement.
I'm noticing significant fluctuations over the past 3 weeks up and down even though my hourly average is not fluctuating.
I am also noticing some girls clearly not using the encoder and hardly in private in the first few rows some even placed higher than "top models."
I know SM placement is a mystery - not asking how its calculated but wondering if any of you other girls are noticing any significant fluctuation in your placement day to day or week to week over the past month or so?
Yes, I'm noticing the exact same thing as well!
sweetgapeach
01-03-2013, 10:16 PM
Small change but one that I noticed is that the daily time online reports are posting immediately now. Used to it would be like after 5 am Wednesday mornings before it would show how long I was in free/paid for Tuesday, now it is showing up instantly. I don't know if that is useful for many, but since I hardly ever do gold shows I like to keep track of my free/paid chat averages.
VoluptiousBriadda
01-04-2013, 02:29 AM
Just FYI: I had a guy that kept asking why I only had his comment showing and no others on my profile. When I looked at my profile, I couldn't see any comments at all, and I've been camming for 10 weeks now. I emailed support. I had to do it twice and the second time, they didn't even respond, they must have just gone and approved my comments, because now there are 10! Thank you to whoever posted that you might have to email them. I'm sure it's not tops on their list of to-dos! It is nice to see the comments my regs have left!
^^THIS! I read your post and decided I was going to email SM tmrw morn to find out if I had any comments that needed to be approved,bc I only have two after being there over 4 mths.but I decided to check my cammodels link real quick juuuust to make sure before I emailed,and lo and behold,they had FINALLY approved more! now I know the guys that SWEAR they've commented weren't just bullshitting me! soo excited,i love reading my comments too,all the new ones were just as sweet and wonderful as I had hoped theyd be!
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So if anyone else has been waiting on comments to be approved,go check and see if you have any new ones posted yet!
LolaBohemia
01-04-2013, 04:25 AM
So I am trying to move over from ImLive to SM doing strictly Domme/Fetish/BDSM stuff...
I read that you can't splitcam with SM which is kinda part of my transition. I work on ImLive not broadcasting but available for private and on SM I'd be in my room, obviously, trying to establish regulars and clientele.
Granted, I've been getting WAAAY more per hour lately on ImLive, I still want to cam on both sites. Could I splitcam broadcasting just on SM but be available on ImLive and sign off temporarily on SM while doing privates on ImLive? I just can't afford to completely transition over.
Any advice would be great on how to do this. I also don't do vanilla shows unless paid WAAAAY more.
AliceFun
01-04-2013, 08:17 AM
I used to splitcam SM with ImLive and was easy, i sat in paid mode on imlive and when i had shows there i'll shut off SM, when i had show on sm i will keep imlive session on normally, if i got a show request on imlive and was engaged with SM already i'll reject the show on imlive; i gave up imlive cause it wont bring in enough cash and will make sm income suffer so i work just sm now. Not sure how well u'll do on SM with ur kind of shows, maybe it'll work well for u as u native american, wish u great luck!!
So SM + ImLive is easy task :))
ManyRoses
01-04-2013, 02:03 PM
I've noticed that the placement is going nuts,....but I have also noticed that the number of girls on has been going nuts, and I think that they are related.
Over xmas there were fewer girls for obvious reasons - everyone was with fam for xmas.
But since then, I can't figure it out. For the past year, I have consistently been on with anywhere from 1500-1800 girls. Sometimes it goes down to 1200, sometimes up to 2000. But over the past week, it has just been all over the place - under a thousand, well over two thousand....weird.
Hello, somebody please heeelp. I didnt change anything in my streamate profile, but today then i loged in I saw " CANNOT STREAM - PENDING APPROVAL" WTF is this???? Did anything like that happen anyone else? ;(((
SarahTime
01-04-2013, 04:55 PM
Is anyone noticing that SM's placement is wonky lately? I'm not complaining I'm just noticing myself personally bouncing around alot. I've maintained my placement on SM with only a row change up or down in the offline models over the past few months. Right before Xmas I was pushed back almost a page in the offline models, then the beginning of this week I was pushed down a few pages but I had taken 8 days off in a row so figured that the reason but then today I was pushed way up - best placement I've ever had - second page of offline models. So I logged in and I did actually have kick ass placement.
I'm noticing significant fluctuations over the past 3 weeks up and down even though my hourly average is not fluctuating.
I am also noticing some girls clearly not using the encoder and hardly in private in the first few rows some even placed higher than "top models."
I know SM placement is a mystery - not asking how its calculated but wondering if any of you other girls are noticing any significant fluctuation in your placement day to day or week to week over the past month or so?
I'm also noticing that there is a HUGE difference if you are logged out or logged in. Girl A will be ahead of Girl B logged out, then you log in and Girl B is ahead of Girl A by a long shot.... it's strange.....
italianstarcamgirl
01-04-2013, 06:22 PM
ya I noticed that too - AND if you are logged in the placement is totally different not because there are models showing up that are geo restricted but just the models are all in all different spots - atleast it was like that the other day. Its kinda annoying because you try to figure out how placement is set and then they go and mess with it even more.
italianstarcamgirl
01-04-2013, 06:23 PM
wow you totally just said that - not sure why I read it as something else but ummm ya I def notice that too! :)
ABigNerd
01-04-2013, 10:45 PM
Small change but one that I noticed is that the daily time online reports are posting immediately now. Used to it would be like after 5 am Wednesday mornings before it would show how long I was in free/paid for Tuesday, now it is showing up instantly. I don't know if that is useful for many, but since I hardly ever do gold shows I like to keep track of my free/paid chat averages.
Yes!!! I'm loving it. I also like to keep track of the percentage of time I spend in paid chat. Some days it feels incredibly slow, and you look the next day and realize that 23% in paid chat isn't bad at all. It's a huge motivator!
ABigNerd
01-04-2013, 10:47 PM
....And I just checked my comments. I have one new one, "Awesome!!!" I know I have more comments than that. Several guys I believe are pretty trustworthy have told me that they left comments. I wonder why they didn't approve them.
Cam_Model_Jess
01-04-2013, 11:46 PM
It can take MONTHS to get comments approved. They just don't do it, either b/c they don't care to or b/c they don't have the manpower to do it. If you're really that bothered by it, send them an e-mail & ask them to approve your comments. They're not instantly approved, they're manually approved one by one.
StephanieXS
01-05-2013, 01:29 AM
My first night on SM went not as well as expected but DAMN I feel like Vanessa from support is online constantly, it never takes her more than an hour to respond to me no matter what time I message her.
TheBrownFox
01-05-2013, 09:35 AM
Thanks for explaining about the member comments. The other night a guy on there took me exclusive, and then he told me to read the comment he left for me. Nothing was there when I checked.
TheBrownFox
01-05-2013, 12:50 PM
*edited since some people seem to be misunderstanding my post and are a little confused*
It's been annoying me that new guys don't get an exclusive button until they've A) tipped a model or B) taken a model premium. You don't have to be THE model that they actually tip/take private. Just as long as they've tipped ANY SM model or have taken ANY SM model private, then the exclusive button becomes available for them. Otherwise, he'll just get the premium button. I'm not 100% how much they have to tip, but I DO know that tipping 5 GOLD meets the requirement. I've observed this with a few different members who were new to my room, and this is what happened. Also, when I was trying to figure this out, one of my regulars confirmed this...he told me that when you're a new member to the site (who hasn't yet tipped/gone private), it ONLY shows you the premium option and not exclusive. It looks like some of the ladies on here were confused by my post, so I figured I'd go back and try to explain better since SM doesn't really explain any of this shit to anybody.
sexyred
01-05-2013, 01:43 PM
I finally figured out my SM problem--- now I just need to figure the solution. I've been scouring the forum and this thread for hours and I'm seeing others with this problem and yet I must be missing the solution. Forgive me if I just missed it somewhere as the search can be wonky....
So I do well on SM. I make consistent, good money that I can only attribute to awesome regulars and long hours. Usually I only have a handful of guys in my room, but typically my regulars still allow me to make between $250-450 per day due to their generosity and loyalty. I've stated being really concerned about my placement ever since Streamate suspended my customer account because I was using a proxy to check my placement, so I had no idea where I was showing up. So yesterday I got rid of my georestrictions so I could see where I landed. And I am in the mid second page. Which is totally fine, but confusing for me. Then I discovered I had no HD icon. And there were no girls on the first, second or third page last night without the HD icon, except for me (and yes, I know placement is weird without being logged in as a customer). I emailed support and am waiting to hear back....
So the question is--- Why don't I have the HD icon?? I have a very new Asus i7 and use the Logitech 910. I hardwire my laptop to my modem and have an upload speed of 3.75 and a download speed of 25.36. Oh, and the Encoder settings are correct and I'm using 640 x 480. So ladies, what is going on? I hope support gets back to me soon, and if not, I'll try twitter or Vanessa on here. I'm satisfied with how I'm doing, but I truly think that having the HD icon will boost me onto the front page. Thanks!
Cam_Model_Jess
01-05-2013, 01:59 PM
You know if you're not logged in to a customer account when checking your placement that you aren't seeing any models with geo-restrictions, right? So if it looks like you're in the middle of page 2, you're probably on page 3. Also, the fact that you're not seeing all those models will skew your ability to judge who is placed where. If the icon is not showing up, you can try to sign out and sign back in. Sometimes it can take 15 minutes or so to show up tho. I used to have this issue & it seems to have randomly resolved itself, even tho I haven't changed anything.
If you e-mailed support, they will only tell you to check your encoder settings. You may eventually get someone to check them for you if you go back and forth enough. But there is really no other way, that I've found, to resolve this, other than correct settings & patience. I also had an i7, correct encoder settings, awesome internet, etc. Was still having the issue. Nothing I did resolved it except waiting.
Via Flaminia
01-05-2013, 02:00 PM
It's been annoying me that the exclusive option doesn't show up for guys (only premium) if they've never tipped before. So once again, I have to take on the role as SM model AND customer service rep (lol), and tell guys that you have to tip Gold first, before that exclusive button is available for you. I told a guy this recently, and he actually did tip me 5 Gold and then did exclusive. I believe that after they tip you 5 Gold, they have to exit the room and the re-enter, in order for the exclusive button to appear. Seriously...guys have to exit the room and then come back for the damn exclusive button to appear? Huh? That's so ridiculous, but I was glad that he took the necessary steps to get the exclusive session. :)
....SM....smh....
sexyred
01-05-2013, 02:10 PM
Yeah, I'm sure I am on the 3rd page or further back. Fortunately, my niche, Redhead, is fairly small, so guys that want that can find me and a fair amount have favorited me. But definitely frustrating, especially since I've logged off, logged back in, rechecked everything, etc. I'm definitely a girl that does my homework so I hate things that don't have a clear fix. Thanks for sharing your experiences though, hopefully it fixes itself.
Because geez, I've always had five stars, always make money, have clear feed, took off my georestrictions, put in consistent hours, have an i7, have a nice variety of toys, am able to make regulars, and am pretty universally appealing because of my big boobs and pretty face (not to be conceited, lol), etc. I bet I can make the site more money if they didn't bury me!!!! I'm not a "marginal camgirl" lol! Thanks again Jess :)
CamGirl4M
01-05-2013, 02:55 PM
I had no idea that this was the case!!! So good to know. I never know what to say to the guys who say Exclusive is not an option for them. Thanks for bringing this up!
It's been annoying me that the exclusive option doesn't show up for guys (only premium) if they've never tipped before. So once again, I have to take on the role as SM model AND customer service rep (lol), and tell guys that you have to tip Gold first, before that exclusive button is available for you. I told a guy this recently, and he actually did tip me 5 Gold and then did exclusive. I believe that after they tip you 5 Gold, they have to exit the room and the re-enter, in order for the exclusive button to appear. Seriously...guys have to exit the room and then come back for the damn exclusive button to appear? Huh? That's so ridiculous, but I was glad that he took the necessary steps to get the exclusive session. :)
Cam_Model_Jess
01-05-2013, 02:59 PM
^
Sorry, love. I hope it fixes itself soon. You could try checking and unchecking the "drop frames" and "degrade quality" boxes to see if either thing helps. That's all I can think of.
sexyred
01-05-2013, 03:18 PM
Jess I want to kiss your mouth! I messed with both of those boxes and I fixed it! And guess who's in the fifth row on the first page???? I love you! I knew I didn't belong on the 3rd page!!
TheBrownFox
01-05-2013, 03:20 PM
So the other day one of my SM regulars noticed that my hair is shorter (it's been falling out lately...due to stress, probably). I wore it in a low ponytail on SM last night, with a pink flannel shirt (unbuttoned so you see me in my push-up bra) and jeans. Kinda depressing, but I didn't let it affect my mood on cam. Some cool people tipped, chatted, and went exclusive, which I was happy about.
I guess this should've gone in the 'Camming ROCKS...' thread, because the point I wanted to make is that even when you're not feeling as hot as normal, it's awesome when guys still think you're sexy enough to tip and do exclusive sessions.
Cam_Model_Jess
01-05-2013, 03:51 PM
Jess I want to kiss your mouth! I messed with both of those boxes and I fixed it! And guess who's in the fifth row on the first page???? I love you! I knew I didn't belong on the 3rd page!!
I'm puckering up right now :) LOL Glad it worked for you!
Mlle_Mystere
01-05-2013, 06:35 PM
It's been annoying me that the exclusive option doesn't show up for guys (only premium) if they've never tipped before. So once again, I have to take on the role as SM model AND customer service rep (lol), and tell guys that you have to tip Gold first, before that exclusive button is available for you. I told a guy this recently, and he actually did tip me 5 Gold and then did exclusive. I believe that after they tip you 5 Gold, they have to exit the room and the re-enter, in order for the exclusive button to appear. Seriously...guys have to exit the room and then come back for the damn exclusive button to appear? Huh? That's so ridiculous, but I was glad that he took the necessary steps to get the exclusive session. :)
Whaaaat??? I've never heard of this before, and I'm pretty sure I've had lots of guys take me exclusive without ever having tipped. That is so bizarre.
Cam_Model_Jess
01-05-2013, 07:15 PM
^Yes, I thought this only applied to block sessions, not regular exclusive shows...
SexyLittleThing
01-05-2013, 07:41 PM
Girls, I need your help. For real :(.
So, I've started my Cam journey in September last year. I use the HD encoder, I have a Logitech cam (that everybody uses), I have an i7 processor and my Internet connection is pretty good and stable. (That's just the general info so you could help me along the way). Oh and, I'm from CZ. My rates are 3.99/min and 5.59/min in exclusive.
As I worked (even with the "new girl" status) I only made about 10 - 20 bucks a day (working for about 5 hours a day). There would be good days and bad days and I wasn't complaining. But now... I earn only about 5 dollars for 4 hours I'm on. And that's how's the whole week been for me :(. I'm really frustrated because I really think I'm doing everything I can :(. I talk to clients, I'm flirtty, I'm smiling... Everything. And I give it my all in privates.
I managed to get one regular and I'm earning my money off of him. And one client said I was on the third page. Only 166 people put me in their favorites.
Should I try another cam site? I was thinking about MFC, but that's just not for me. Other than that I'm not sure where to look and where to go. Because I can eart 5 bucks per day at any other job :(.
Please, please, please help me if you can :(.
temptingmodel
01-05-2013, 08:12 PM
Please, please, please help me if you can :(. a lot of info provided to help you on your cam journey.
CamGirl4M
01-05-2013, 08:35 PM
I had a guy take me private tonight and we were in exclusive for a few minutes. He did C2C and I couldn't see anything, it was totally black (not the first time), but he acted like he was trying to fix it and said "hold on" and then logged off. I went to make notes on him and when I did, his username didn't show up as what it was, it showed up as "?" as in, literally his username was a question mark. Anyone know what's up with this?
CurvyWinona
01-05-2013, 09:04 PM
^^ I had same problem with a guy who tipped $20 gold for a video. He sent me a message with no problem and I see his name but in earning pop up window showed ? Shrugs.
Missbeth
01-05-2013, 10:17 PM
I had a guy take me private tonight and we were in exclusive for a few minutes. He did C2C and I couldn't see anything, it was totally black (not the first time), but he acted like he was trying to fix it and said "hold on" and then logged off. I went to make notes on him and when I did, his username didn't show up as what it was, it showed up as "?" as in, literally his username was a question mark. Anyone know what's up with this?
Okay Im happy you posted this because I was actually about to ask...I've had this happen a lot tonight...like 6 names in a row on my recent earnings.
It's probably just a glitch or maybe it's a new feature for members...(that would be weird but who knows..)
I guess I'm cool with it as long as he earnings next to the "?" are correct lol.
Cam_Model_Jess
01-06-2013, 07:14 AM
It has been happening a lot. It used to be that when this happened, you couldn't see the person's profile either. It was frustrating b/c you couldn't make notes on those customers after they left chat. So I'm just grateful we can make notes this time. I think last time when it was happening, someone said it was a feature of those who don't want models keeping track of what they're spending, but I didn't really buy that, since you could see their profiles if they were in your room. Probably just another of the many glitches.
lifetravelergirl
01-06-2013, 07:59 AM
I haven't been able to enable phone on Streamate for like two months O_o . I even tried removing my number and putting it back in, still nothing. I cannot enable phone, what gives? (sorry if someone already asked)
Also I swear I had 3 guys in a gold show last night but later on when looking at my earnings there were only two guys O_O ! ?
SarahTime
01-06-2013, 08:36 AM
I'm having the ? thing too. If you click on the ? and look at the pop up it will still show the name across the top, so you might have to click a few to find who you are looking for, but yah you can still see who it is if you do that so I'm sure it's just a glitch.
comstar
01-06-2013, 10:00 AM
anybody having problems with answering messages? I can not answer any message it keeps logging me out of SM. Also I can not see how many favorites I have it has disappeared off my home panel??
Via Flaminia
01-06-2013, 03:14 PM
....SM....so many glitches....
It's like that kid in school who was always sick.
Pippi_Hicks
01-06-2013, 03:18 PM
I feel like there should be a dedicated "The Streamate Glitch Thread"....... Anyone else feel this way?
(Although I guess The Streamate Thread has basically devolved into that already.)
Pippi_Hicks
01-06-2013, 03:26 PM
^Yes, I thought this only applied to block sessions, not regular exclusive shows...
??? That's so weird! I've never had that problem with block sessions - I offer 15 minute blocks and I've got a guy who has done two exclusive block sessions with me so far but has never tipped or done any regular sessions. That's really strange, but this is good to know if I have a guy tell me that exclusive isn't showing up.
laurielegs
01-06-2013, 03:35 PM
It's been annoying me that the exclusive option doesn't show up for guys (only premium) if they've never tipped before. So once again, I have to take on the role as SM model AND customer service rep (lol), and tell guys that you have to tip Gold first, before that exclusive button is available for you. I told a guy this recently, and he actually did tip me 5 Gold and then did exclusive. I believe that after they tip you 5 Gold, they have to exit the room and the re-enter, in order for the exclusive button to appear. Seriously...guys have to exit the room and then come back for the damn exclusive button to appear? Huh? That's so ridiculous, but I was glad that he took the necessary steps to get the exclusive session. :)
I wish support would confirm if this is the only way. I had thought it was that they had to spend at least 1 minute in someone's video on the site before being allowed the exclusive option.
I hate how they don't seem to explain to customers how to use the site at all!
and what is the purpose for hiding the exclusive button anyway? Im so puzzled.-
laurielegs
01-06-2013, 03:37 PM
I haven't been able to enable phone on Streamate for like two months O_o . I even tried removing my number and putting it back in, still nothing. I cannot enable phone, what gives? (sorry if someone already asked)
The system will automatically disable it if there is any glitch even if it is on their end. You have to contact support and they will re-enable it for you.
Usually they turn it back on for me within a day's time.
TheBrownFox
01-06-2013, 08:07 PM
I wish support would confirm if this is the only way. I had thought it was that they had to spend at least 1 minute in someone's video on the site before being allowed the exclusive option.
I hate how they don't seem to explain to customers how to use the site at all!
and what is the purpose for hiding the exclusive button anyway? Im so puzzled.-
Yeah, for my SM viewers who were new to the site (never took other models premium, etc.)...in order for the exclusive button to show up for them, they had to have tipped 5 GOLD in my public chat. But remember that if they tip you 5 GOLD and it still doesn't show up, it's probably because after they tip the 5 Gold, they need to exit and reenter. Not only will exclusive show up, but then they have a number 1 next to their screen name. I had a new viewer to my room do this exact thing the other night, and it worked just as I predicted, and we finally did the exclusive.
I think it sucks balls that SM doesn't explain this to anyone on the site...that models and members basically have to figure out all this for ourselves. It's frustrating for me to have to be Miss Customer Service Representative to these guys.
They give models the option to disable exclusives, but exclusives is all that I do. I actually wish we could disable premiums, but we can't. So I just have it priced much higher than exclusive, even though occasionally you'll still get the assholes who force you into premium and then end it in a couple seconds. I'm almost positive some guy did this to me the other night JUST to be a dickhead.....
StephanieXS
01-06-2013, 11:33 PM
How do you girls help guys find you on twitter since we can't mention other sites??
TheBrownFox
01-06-2013, 11:34 PM
Whaaaat??? I've never heard of this before, and I'm pretty sure I've had lots of guys take me exclusive without ever having tipped. That is so bizarre.
No, that's not what I mean. Those guys were able to take you exclusive because they've previously tipped OTHER models or went private with other models. I was saying that if the guy is brand new to the site and hasn't spent on ANYONE yet, the exclusive button is not gonna show up for him right away.
TheBrownFox
01-06-2013, 11:35 PM
^Yes, I thought this only applied to block sessions, not regular exclusive shows...
See my previous post above. :) I was referring to guys who are new to Streamate...not guys who have spent money on other models. I have also tested this theory out with a few new SM members, and I was right.
TheBrownFox
01-06-2013, 11:44 PM
??? That's so weird! I've never had that problem with block sessions - I offer 15 minute blocks and I've got a guy who has done two exclusive block sessions with me so far but has never tipped or done any regular sessions. That's really strange, but this is good to know if I have a guy tell me that exclusive isn't showing up.
Yeah, he must've tipped other models and/or had taken other models private PRIOR to him taking you exclusive.
Pippi_Hicks
01-06-2013, 11:53 PM
Yeah, he must've tipped other models and/or had taken other models private PRIOR to him taking you exclusive.
Good to know - thank you!
Cam_Model_Jess
01-06-2013, 11:58 PM
Ok that makes sense. I don't do blocks & it's been a long time since I have. I wasn't saying I'm right, I meant that I wasn't sure what the requirements were. I do think it's very weird that customers are required to tip/pvt someone before going exclusive.