View Full Version : The Streamate Thread
IvyAdams
04-07-2015, 08:45 AM
@Marian Starr; yeah....a google search gives me tips on HOW TO rank top not WHO IS top. I know you can't say names on here but if you could send me links maybe to their cams/website/twitter? Who are the girls making serious bank who are the ones to watch?
Why don't you just go onto Streamate and watch the top girls that you see there??
hyori
04-07-2015, 08:57 AM
There are so many variables across the board of top models. You'll have a top model who doesn't do any penetration at all and models who use baseball bats. You'll have ones who are bubbly and sweet and other top models who don't even smile. There are also all shapes and sizes of top models. It really comes down to having a good work ethic, being confident, being a good marketer for more exposure and having a large base of regulars. That's it, that's the 'secret' formula.
BustyVixen
04-07-2015, 09:51 AM
I wish the notes could be color coated. Green for $$$ Red for warning, or like custom color coating notes unique to each model's liking, or just faces, happy face for a nice guy, angry face for a jerk. I mean they can put a man on the moon, why not? oh I'm just rambling
Oh my god I wish this constantly!!
Marina Starr
04-07-2015, 11:00 AM
It's Marina :)
That is not something I am comfortable doing. It doesn't really matter who are the top and who's making what. When you put in the hours and hard work, anything is possible. You write your own paychecks.
@Marian Starr; yeah....a google search gives me tips on HOW TO rank top not WHO IS top. I know you can't say names on here but if you could send me links maybe to their cams/website/twitter? Who are the girls making serious bank who are the ones to watch?
SarahTime
04-07-2015, 11:07 AM
@Marian Starr; yeah....a google search gives me tips on HOW TO rank top not WHO IS top. I know you can't say names on here but if you could send me links maybe to their cams/website/twitter? Who are the girls making serious bank who are the ones to watch?
Define "serious bank".
I don't personally believe that you'll gain anything by watching other performers. You have to be unique.
Bootsie
04-07-2015, 11:52 AM
Define "serious bank".
I don't personally believe that you'll gain anything by watching other performers. You have to be unique.
I do my own thing, but there are a few girls that when I watch them, they cheer me up because they are wicked funny and work their room hella good. I could never copy any of them, because everyone is so different. I think the most you get from watching other girls is just that kind of kick in the ass to want to be better in your own way. YMMV.
euro_princess
04-07-2015, 12:02 PM
Placement was always like a mystery to me, can vary from customer to customer and I'm not talking if he has you on his favs or not. Ok, so we're talking about the position for the free chat part (non-account), which is the same for everybody, just the website statistics can change it (move you higher or lower). But on the account part is a totally different story. I did this test with my guy. His account is an affiliated one and I am the only model hearted, so ofc I am always showing first on the page. One day I was reading him the lines from my non-account part and he was from his US customer one. Well, somebody that was showing on line 3 for me (page of 80 models) was actually on line 5 for him. Or a lower girl was higher for him. I don't know if the placement for the non-fav girls is based on your preference of models or not, but I think that's the way Streamate can actually give you traffic or not, cause they can move you the way they want for any member. And I know that from the owner of my studio too. I remember she told me once she can give me a better placement, just by talking with the website if she wants to extra-promote me. It's an exclusive Streamate studio, bla bla, long story. Anyway, let's say you like fetish chicks, maybe you'll see those higher on the page than regular girls.
And the examples are multiple to prove my "theory". A month ago, one of my regulars told me he removed me from his favs to see where I was actually on the page (while online) and he was shocked to find me on page 4, even if he has just 20 models as favs. And I am always showing on first line or line 2 front page, at least from non-account part. On the offline part I am number 20 or even less. Just think about a very high east-european and I'm sure you'll know me.
Or a few weeks ago I was checking the website (usually I do it to see if they have technical problems) and a girl that was on line 5 for me had 200 people in her room, while somebody on line 2 had 20. They were both same type of beauty and teasing for a gs. Actually, the one that was showing higher had an older account, 3 years, while the other one was more of a junior, less than 1 year.
I don't know if I explained this right, hope you girls got the point. :)
audritwo
04-07-2015, 12:48 PM
Hello ladies! Who are the top camgirls of SM? I know being on the front page is obviously where to look but this fluctuates depending on who is on and what time zone they are in. I'm asking about who are the camgirls making serious bank on SM, who 9 time out of 10 will stay on the 1st or 2nd pages during their time on SM.
I'm one of those! I'll tell you how I did it. I put my time in, got ratings, hustled strong, be mysexyself, and try to make as much as I can a week. I even pushed myself when I was physically exhausted. You don't get there over night, you work hard. Just can't stop putting the hours in. It gets easy, and you find yourself slacking, and your income slipping. Happened to me so many times. But you can always build it back up, by putting in the TIME. Three years ago, I was stuck on the 6th page and barely make $400. I worked so hard to get where I am. And how I can easily make money now, and live comfortably.
That's the magical secret. WORK A LOT.
IvyAdams
04-07-2015, 12:48 PM
Yeah.. I agree with SarahTime that I don't generally like watching other models. Every time that I do, I end up going into this funk of watching them for hours and not getting anything done myself... but there are a couple of models that I will pop into their rooms, tip them some to get the other guys in there motivated to do the same, and it's generally the models (Like Bootsie said) that hustle and I genuinely enjoy. :)
Kitcatt
04-07-2015, 12:53 PM
Yaaaas girl! I creep on you all the time, you're awesome.
I'm one of those! I'll tell you how I did it. I put my time in, got ratings, hustled strong, be mysexyself, and try to make as much as I can a week. I even pushed myself when I was physically exhausted. You don't get there over night, you work hard. Just can't stop putting the hours in. It gets easy, and you find yourself slacking, and your income slipping. Happened to me so many times. But you can always build it back up, by putting in the TIME
That's the magical secret. WORK A LOT.
JessRyan
04-07-2015, 01:23 PM
I'm one of those! I'll tell you how I did it. I put my time in, got ratings, hustled strong, be mysexyself, and try to make as much as I can a week. I even pushed myself when I was physically exhausted. You don't get there over night, you work hard. Just can't stop putting the hours in. It gets easy, and you find yourself slacking, and your income slipping. Happened to me so many times. But you can always build it back up, by putting in the TIME. Three years ago, I was stuck on the 6th page and barely make $400. I worked so hard to get where I am. And how I can easily make money now, and live comfortably.
That's the magical secret. WORK A LOT.
Audri's right. When she's on and I'm looking around LOL she's always on the front page first 2 rows! I've watched her in free chat and her gold shows because she's funny, sassy, cute and engages the guys in her room. I think you can learn a lot from watching for awhile. I had no idea what other girls did and how they did it until I scoped out a few rooms. Not like you can go to any cam class, you know? Then you take what you want and create your own. Audri's right too, work a lot. Put the hours in, don't look bored and have fun. just my 2 cents
Sellty
04-07-2015, 05:54 PM
Thanks for the response! Steamate's fluctuating rankings is why I came on here to ask you guys, I couldn't figure out who was top. Now I understand, thanks heaps!
euro_princess
04-07-2015, 09:19 PM
Well, I don't think you can succes as a top model just by working tons of hours. Depends how you work them. I had a friend who worked double than me, never managed to get above page 4. She was taking everything too serious and comparing herself with any model that made more/was higher. Before I went all popular I wasn't myself, I tried to give them what I thought they wanted to see/hear. Then I started being less concerned about it. For me was hard and sometimes is still. Being east-european and having to deal with a majority of americans can involve xenophobia sometimes. Most of them think you are dumb as fuck or poor as fuck.
Just be yourself, no matter how pathetic sounds. Show them what you got, baby! (but not your boobs)
SarahTime
04-07-2015, 09:51 PM
Yeah since I started working more hours, I've made less.
But I actually had a fantastic night on SM tonight! Made my high goal again. :) I haven't worked nights lately so maybe they missed me. Sometimes less is more. ;)
euro_princess
04-07-2015, 11:05 PM
Happens to me too. When I'm gone for a while, first day back is soooo busy! They wanna have their dose of me.
For me SM kinda gagged tonight. The only ones who wanted to see me naked were the producers! God, I have a crush for some of them. I swear they are so funny and sweet.
cymonehearts
04-08-2015, 12:01 AM
i know my placement dropped because of not logging on .. really just started back consistently this past month. Its funny though when i was top in categories i charged less & had more privates but would be dead but spent less time on cam .. now im rows down in categories way less traffic .. i raised my rate $3 up .. i make more money but at times it takes longer to reach goals...
i just need the traffic to bring back a little bit more balance...
hopefully ill see a change in placement with working at least 4 hours 6 days a week .. im determined.
AlyssaJane
04-08-2015, 12:29 AM
I'm not trying to call anybody out, just make sure I understand the rules. I see a model tonight full nude doing a show and it's basically free for anyone to see. How/why? I mean no below the belt nudity for free right? Just wanna make sure I'm not missing something as a newb to camming.
euro_princess
04-08-2015, 12:51 AM
She was breaking the rules. Why? Probably she was just desperate. Actually, depends. Not all the girls know the rules or care about them. Still, most of the time SM closes their eyes, is like the admins never see them. I know a girl who stays naked in free chat, flashes her pussy for $2, and while she's in a pre-show of a tv she does penetration without showing all, but you can see her moving the dildo. That's sexual explicit content, from what I know, it's against the rules too. One of my regulars messaged SM about the problem, he was upset his favs play fair and go by the rules and that chick was breaking everything. Guess what? They didn't even answer him and she still does the same things.
I don't give no nudity in free chat, I flash my boobs only if somebody pledges $50 and requires it. Guys are there to see things, so if you show everything, why they should pay anymore?
AlyssaJane
04-08-2015, 01:37 AM
She was breaking the rules. Why? Probably she was just desperate. Actually, depends. Not all the girls know the rules or care about them. Still, most of the time SM closes their eyes, is like the admins never see them. I know a girl who stays naked in free chat, flashes her pussy for $2, and while she's in a pre-show of a tv she does penetration without showing all, but you can see her moving the dildo. That's sexual explicit content, from what I know, it's against the rules too. One of my regulars messaged SM about the problem, he was upset his favs play fair and go by the rules and that chick was breaking everything. Guess what? They didn't even answer him and she still does the same things.
I don't give no nudity in free chat, I flash my boobs only if somebody pledges $50 and requires it. Guys are there to see things, so if you show everything, why they should pay anymore?
That's pretty much what I thought. I'm still learning the ins and outs but I had a feeling that was a no no. I don't really care what models are doing in their rooms, I prefer to establish my own niche and do the best I can for my customers. I agree - they aren't going to buy the cow if they are getting the milk for free. I prefer to follow the rules, even if I think I can get away with breaking them - that's just me. I get a lot of emails asking for my panties. I'm not sure how to respond to those requests in a safe way. I'll need to review the policies again.
AlyssaJane
04-08-2015, 01:38 AM
She was breaking the rules. Why? Probably she was just desperate. Actually, depends. Not all the girls know the rules or care about them. Still, most of the time SM closes their eyes, is like the admins never see them. I know a girl who stays naked in free chat, flashes her pussy for $2, and while she's in a pre-show of a tv she does penetration without showing all, but you can see her moving the dildo. That's sexual explicit content, from what I know, it's against the rules too. One of my regulars messaged SM about the problem, he was upset his favs play fair and go by the rules and that chick was breaking everything. Guess what? They didn't even answer him and she still does the same things.
I don't give no nudity in free chat, I flash my boobs only if somebody pledges $50 and requires it. Guys are there to see things, so if you show everything, why they should pay anymore?
That's pretty much what I thought. I'm still learning the ins and outs but I had a feeling that was a no no. I don't really care what models are doing in their rooms, I prefer to establish my own niche and do the best I can for my customers. I agree - they aren't going to buy the cow if they are getting the milk for free. I prefer to follow the rules, even if I think I can get away with breaking them - that's just me. I get a lot of emails asking for my panties. I'm not sure how to respond to those requests in a safe way. I'll need to review the policies again.
euro_princess
04-08-2015, 03:37 AM
Well, be careful about that Alyssa! It's against the rules to sell panties, so you might get in trouble. If they find out, they can suspend your account for a certain period of time.
I don't know what to advise you, because I don't sell them, so maybe if you are really interested, you should get their emails (only if they offer to send, again is forbidden to give personal info) and talk over there with the customers.
AlyssaJane
04-08-2015, 03:54 AM
I thought there was a way for SM to link to do things like that? Maybe I am confusing it with other sites I considered. Like I thought we could link our amazon wishlists and sell panties through the site. I'm really not interested in giving private info. Not worth it.
euro_princess
04-08-2015, 04:18 AM
Probably you talk about MFC or AW. Well, you are not even allowed to promote your Twitter. Anything that can lead to you taking the customers outside SM is seen as a bad thing. They say you should keep the members on the website. So, no email adress, no real full name etc.
Even if a member sends you personal info, you are advised to tell him you can't neither receive. This way you play safe. From there is just your choice if you want to contact him.
As far as I know, is actually against the law the sell used panties, because of the DNA problem. Try to research it. I'm not a US resident, but I know from my regulars.
hyori
04-08-2015, 09:05 AM
It is OK to promote your ModelCentro site on Streamate. They are partners. On your MC site you can put your Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, SkyPrivate, VerifiedCall and soon MC will have the capability to sell items like panties. It is the best way to make money off site legitimately with SM. Also, you can promote MyPornProfile because SM owns them. On there you can also have your MC site, twitter, instagram, tumblr and all your other camsites as well!
Remember to only promote your MC site, don't say, "go to yourcammodelname.com and contact me via twitter". Just your own URL.
Tsepmet1
04-08-2015, 01:06 PM
Is anyone still having a problem with the site telling customers that you're in a private when you're not? It's taking a big bite out of my income, and it's happening to me so often that I'm wondering if it's a problem on my end somehow.
caramelDip
04-08-2015, 01:30 PM
It is OK to promote your ModelCentro site on Streamate. They are partners. On your MC site you can put your Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, SkyPrivate, VerifiedCall and soon MC will have the capability to sell items like panties. It is the best way to make money off site legitimately with SM. Also, you can promote MyPornProfile because SM owns them. On there you can also have your MC site, twitter, instagram, tumblr and all your other camsites as well!
Remember to only promote your MC site, don't say, "go to yourcammodelname.com and contact me via twitter". Just your own URL.
I have tried typing my MC link but they wouldnt let me...I had to separate it. That was weird.
SarahTime
04-08-2015, 03:22 PM
Is anyone still having a problem with the site telling customers that you're in a private when you're not? It's taking a big bite out of my income, and it's happening to me so often that I'm wondering if it's a problem on my end somehow.
Are you talking about when users view on a mobile device? Or is it happening when you check on a computer as well?
Tsepmet1
04-08-2015, 03:58 PM
Are you talking about when users view on a mobile device? Or is it happening when you check on a computer as well?
Seems to be just mobile, or at least I only check through my phone and iPad.
People will be conversing with me and asking questions, then the room will clear out and stay empty. This happens multiple times each hour, and when I check on my phone or iPad, it'll say I'm in private.
I've tried resetting everything, even going on break and coming back, and will still have the same thing happen over and over. This has been going on for weeks.
I'm even having a problem with people taking me private and then getting booted. I haven't been able to get a single rating the last few times I've been online because the damn site just boots everyone. *sigh*
waogtrain
04-08-2015, 04:04 PM
Does anyone know how long you have to work on SM before you can raise your exclusive rates above 5.99? I emailed support hoping to get the option to change it to whatever I wanted but they just asked me what price I'd like to set it at. I'd like the option to lower it in case people aren't into my new prices.
PrincessLavender
04-08-2015, 04:13 PM
Does anyone know how long you have to work on SM before you can raise your exclusive rates above 5.99? I emailed support hoping to get the option to change it to whatever I wanted but they just asked me what price I'd like to set it at. I'd like the option to lower it in case people aren't into my new prices.
That's what they said to me too. I just said I wanted to experiment with different prices. Then they emailed me back and said they gave me the option to raise it up to $9.99.
Marina Starr
04-08-2015, 04:41 PM
For me it was right away. You have to ask them to "permanently" raise it to whatever you want so you can lower them if you needed to.
Does anyone know how long you have to work on SM before you can raise your exclusive rates above 5.99? I emailed support hoping to get the option to change it to whatever I wanted but they just asked me what price I'd like to set it at. I'd like the option to lower it in case people aren't into my new prices.
Marina Starr
04-08-2015, 04:45 PM
Is Streamate being glitchy today? I have a lot of new guys coming in my room but they won't talk. Just in and out. I am guessing SM still haven't fix their mobile issues?
On a less petty note, SM was very good this week thus far so I thank you!
Tsepmet1
04-08-2015, 05:30 PM
Oh, and I had some rando enter and exit a block session with another member.
Sellty
04-08-2015, 05:32 PM
@Euro_princess; how can you tell you got a producer in your room?
SarahTime
04-08-2015, 06:56 PM
Seems to be just mobile, or at least I only check through my phone and iPad.
People will be conversing with me and asking questions, then the room will clear out and stay empty. This happens multiple times each hour, and when I check on my phone or iPad, it'll say I'm in private.
I've tried resetting everything, even going on break and coming back, and will still have the same thing happen over and over. This has been going on for weeks.
I'm even having a problem with people taking me private and then getting booted. I haven't been able to get a single rating the last few times I've been online because the damn site just boots everyone. *sigh*
Yah it's happening to everyone who is on mobile that tries to view a girls room. Sometimes it will work, most of the time it won't. So it's nothing wrong with your feed or anything you can do to fix it unfortunately, it's just the fact that they are on a mobile device that is causing it.
The fact that it clears your whole room shows just how many people are using mobile. :( Same exact thing happens to me several times a night too.
SarahTime
04-08-2015, 06:58 PM
A little bit of good news for me, I think Streamate is trying to make up with me. The last two days have been amazing... back to "normal" dare I say... but I'm not convinced yet.... Give me more lovin SM before I'll take you back!!! ;)
Now if I could just get my placement back...
Damiansmommy10
04-08-2015, 07:59 PM
why is it that im not making anything on SM at all my prices are 3.99 and 4.99. everyone just goes in and out of my room and don't want to talk. I mostly have my mic off but now I turned it on. I have ok ish lightly. I had to by another lamp due to my house is a logcabin and all wood even walls -_- so lighting sucks in it. but with lamp by computer it helps a lot. I smile and try to talk but nothing, ive tried music and it don't work ethier. I wear a sexy nightie or bra and undies. sometimes reg clothes.
caramelDip
04-08-2015, 10:41 PM
Everyone keeps telling me I'm lagging and I know its not my fault. I tried everything to "fix it" and I look good on my end. HUH
euro_princess
04-08-2015, 11:16 PM
@Euro_princess; how can you tell you got a producer in your room?
You see him in the room. When your status changes from "Streaming" to "Broadcasting" the producer shows in your chat. Customers can't see him, he's as anonymous. Sometimes, but not very often, they pop into your room to ask if you are cool with a tv request. Producer_04 is the only one who does it for me, the other ones just send an invitation.
CurvyWinona
04-08-2015, 11:19 PM
I got booted once and there were few guys trying to talk to me, but none. One regular came in and out repeatedly on yesterday and then tonight. but tonight he was finally able to talk to me and took me to pvt. eh, glitchy week, for sure...
What else is new? ha
Sellty
04-08-2015, 11:55 PM
@Euro_Princess; so if you see an anon in your room it's proberly a producer? Stealthy and kinda cool. Do they come into rooms a lot or is it a rarity?
hyori
04-09-2015, 07:03 AM
I find I always get the same producer regardless of what time I work. Is that the case for everybody? If that is the case, why? And wow, they must work long hours.
audritwo
04-09-2015, 07:17 AM
Yes, I always get. 00, 9, or 14. Sometimes I get others. They could work remotely from home. God I would love to have a fleid trip there and learn more about how the company works.
euro_princess
04-09-2015, 07:55 AM
@Euro_Princess; so if you see an anon in your room it's proberly a producer? Stealthy and kinda cool. Do they come into rooms a lot or is it a rarity?
No, no. You see him when he gives you a tv. I'm not sure you are familiar with the concept. You opt in for the tvs and wait for a request from a producer. The request looks like the box for the Gold Show, but the numbers (goal, timer, buy in) are presetted.
Try to read again, I said ONLY members see him as anonymous, you see him as "producer_08/producer_00 etc". They have numbers from 00 to 20, they are never anonymous for you.
Depends how often you get requests for broadcasted shows, in order to see him in the chat. Can be twice a week, twice a day or every hour for the gold box models (special selection of top models who do very good in tvs) or even never if you haven't done tv shows yet. The better model you are, the more requests you'll get. And I repeat, the only moment when you see him is after you accept the request and you are Broadcasting (he tells you when you're live) or if he comes in your room and specifically asks if you are willing to accept an invitation for the show. As I said before, most of them don't ask before, they just send the request.
Besides that, they can supervise the models without you knowing it or them ever showing up in your room, from an admin account. They do it in order to see what is your attitude, what you do in shows etc. That's their way of finding out if you are a good candidate for tvs.
I find I always get the same producer regardless of what time I work. Is that the case for everybody? If that is the case, why? And wow, they must work long hours.
Well, they work 8h as a normal employee, they don't do just "producing". Most of them deal with customer support, answer emails, calls, and talk on live chat with members. But they have a certain schedule for being a producer, usually is 1h.
Sometimes happens for producer_07 to log into producer_08 account (as an example) or they have two producers with the same number, so might not be the same person. I know it because producer_14 has level 1 made for me (in front of his nickname is that coin with one), still, from time to time I get another producer_14 that has no coin in front, which means there are 2 different accounts.
Yes, I always get. 00, 9, or 14. Sometimes I get others. They could work remotely from home. God I would love to have a fleid trip there and learn more about how the company works.
They are one of the coolest producers, very supportive and funny. The list keeps going with 4, 6, 12 and 17. They are very nice too. I think my biggest fan is 17. Sometimes he gives me 3 shows in 2h *insane*.
The only one I had problems with was 8. He cut my tvs (I didn't have the option anymore for a few days) because I got my period in the last minute of the show. So beware of that. :)
No, they don't work from home. You don't see them everyday, because they don't do "producing" everyday, they rotate for the customer support part. In the last period of time the website kinda switched their schedules. I know, because one of them is a regular of mine and he tells me all the insides.
(holy shit, I wrote so much!)
hyori
04-09-2015, 08:55 AM
They are one of the coolest producers, very supportive and funny. The list keeps going with 4, 6, 12 and 17. They are very nice too. I think my biggest fan is 17. Sometimes he gives me 3 shows in 2h *insane*.
The only one I had problems with was 8. He cut my tvs (I didn't have the option anymore for a few days) because I got my period in the last minute of the show. So beware of that. :)
No, they don't work from home. You don't see them everyday, because they don't do "producing" everyday, they rotate for the customer support part. In the last period of time the website kinda switched their schedules. I know, because one of them is a regular of mine and he tells me all the insides.
(holy shit, I wrote so much!)
Wow, thank you so much for writing all of this!
I think I know who you are btw, I hope I don't sound creepy or anything but from what you have written I have an idea of who you could be and I am one of your biggest fans. I just love the way you hustle!
euro_princess
04-09-2015, 09:13 AM
Happy to help, Hyori! I think would be easier for girls to know as much as possible, that would give them more shows. I like to play fair when it comes to competition.
Haha, is so funny! No worries, you don't sound creepy, is normal to take an eye to other girls, but had no idea that romanians can seem interesting.
Well, probably I just confirmed my mysterious identity. BUSTED! Lol. Anyway, thank you, *deer*!
MsMirri
04-09-2015, 09:16 AM
GRRRR...my first dedicated day and i cannot for the life of me stay logged in!! Is it me or the site? i see it often has this problem.
IvyAdams
04-09-2015, 09:17 AM
I generally get producers 00, 11, 17, 14, or 9. They work 4 hours a week as a producer, and lately they have been training new producers so who knows who we have in there! lol Also, I know that they aren't doing live tv shows anymore- but the other day one of the producers told me I would be "live" in 5 minutes.. and when I asked him because I was confused they never responded. Weird. oh well!
Oh! I also had people able to pop in and out of exclusive sessions. It was the weirdest thing... sometimes there would be 3 people in there!! I haven't checked to see if they were all charged or not, probably should go do that.
MsMirri
04-09-2015, 09:17 AM
Sry... Hi ladies!!! Just a bit frustrated.
SarahTime
04-09-2015, 09:25 AM
Lol how yall get all this inside info about producers?
There's a lot of producer love going on in here... Producers rate our shows for their worthiness of future broadcasts.... Show me tits and we go pvt bb! No thanks!
The fact that euro_princess says she has a producer as a regular... I assume she means when he's not working and not "producing" (lolz) sorry but that's just kinda....no. You really want SM employees as your regulars???