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Marina Starr
04-15-2015, 07:14 PM
OMG! I thought I was going crazy. That's all I've been getting since Monday.

Why are so many guys telling me they will "brb" or "be right back" or "be back in a sec" like.... what is happening... it's a LOT all of a sudden. So weird.

HamNcheese
04-15-2015, 07:14 PM
I know I'm totally late to this, but that gif has me rolling right now!!!


You're incredibly rude. There are hundreds of non-english speaking models out there with top-notch hustle power and they did it despite the language barrier. Sounds like a strong ass woman to me! Maybe they are camming BECAUSE it's not hard to do so without knowing English.

Stop judging other models and worry about your own work.

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hyori
04-15-2015, 07:18 PM
Why are so many guys telling me they will "brb" or "be right back" or "be back in a sec" like.... what is happening... it's a LOT all of a sudden. So weird.

SM has been lowering daily limits. They are logging into a different account. At least, that is my theory.

AlyssaJane
04-15-2015, 10:21 PM
I raised my banhammer for the first time. The guy was saying it was stupid that I wouldn't tell him what state I am in. It just rubbed me the wrong way. Whoops, ban. First of many bans I am sure.

Prussia
04-15-2015, 11:03 PM
SM has been lowering daily limits. They are logging into a different account. At least, that is my theory.

What?? they have what?? Why?? How does that make sense??

I always thought it was them room hopping or reseting the room etc. :-/

PeterPan
04-15-2015, 11:31 PM
omg this is my 6th day in the web camming world; on SM (currently online)

I am learning fast, ladies.

No longer do I show my ass when someone asks, even when nicely.
Starting today, I refused to show my ass for free when someone (nicely) requested me to. I was reading other posts about that, and yeah, I SHOULD be tipped for an ass preview.

As for feet, I'll let those Foot Freaks look at my toes, soles, heels, arches. Lol.

Ok, so I have an...issue? I don't know how I feel about this: these two guys have, like, "befriended" me. They're ok to talk to. Like, we have actual conversations, so, they allow me to fill the silence of my room here and there. And we have interesting topics to discuss every now and then. So, not too bad for freeloaders. (and he let's me know where I'm placed on the website).
But, THAT is the issue. They're freeloaders in my room. One even admitted that he won't take me to private because he can't afford to. And they say shit, like, "I'm glad you're back" "I'll dream of you" "I was thinking of you" "I'm wouldn't want you doing that in pvt" and things that are meant to be sweet, but really just annoy me cause they aren't paying me shit.

What would you do? I don't want to block them, but sometimes I feel a surge of annoyance and want to kick them from my room because they won't pay for my time. But, I mean, they are decent people. But...freeloaders. Hmmmm..... Should I just let them be? >.<

Also, I have a regular that comes in and just tips to tease him in free chat. I don't show genitalia. If I'm not wearing a bra under my robe, I'll let a nip slip; flash my breasts. Anyway, he tips me in tokens, but they range from $1-$5, thought it's mostly $1 tokens a few times. Of course, I know I'm only getting chump change -_- Should I tell him that his tips need to be higher? Like, flash a tit and that should be a $5 token min?


Still much more to learn... like WTF STREAMATE WHAT THE SHIT IS THIS "3 WEEK PAYMENT DELAY" fuck you, I got rent to pay. I e-mailed them today when they replied with that shit. I told them that I absolutely canNOT wait 3 weeks when I have rent to pay, so hopefully they'll send me my check. I'm hoping to hear from them tomorrow.
There is a thread about the Streamate paychecks, and I read posts from the other girls. Has anyone experienced the 3 Week Paycheck Delay? Their damn "21 days hold to prevent fraud" shit.

Also, I never knew that cuckolding was a word nor a thing. And da fuq penis humiliation, holy balls, dude. holy balls.

QueenBitch
04-16-2015, 12:07 AM
omg this is my 6th day in the web camming world; on SM (currently online)

I am learning fast, ladies.

No longer do I show my ass when someone asks, even when nicely.
Starting today, I refused to show my ass for free when someone (nicely) requested me to. I was reading other posts about that, and yeah, I SHOULD be tipped for an ass preview.

As for feet, I'll let those Foot Freaks look at my toes, soles, heels, arches. Lol.

noooo honey, don't show ANYTHING for free! if I have to get off my ass, they're gonna have to tip for it. I only flash my tits/ass/feet or stand up for tips. if they don't wanna tip you a measly $3 or $5, you know not to waste time on them because the chances of someone like that going private are veeeeery slim. most guys just leave, some will even be like "lol really" and them I'm like "lol really banned lol". Don't give them what they want for free!


Ok, so I have an...issue? I don't know how I feel about this: these two guys have, like, "befriended" me. They're ok to talk to. Like, we have actual conversations, so, they allow me to fill the silence of my room here and there. And we have interesting topics to discuss every now and then. So, not too bad for freeloaders. (and he let's me know where I'm placed on the website).
But, THAT is the issue. They're freeloaders in my room. One even admitted that he won't take me to private because he can't afford to. And they say shit, like, "I'm glad you're back" "I'll dream of you" "I was thinking of you" "I'm wouldn't want you doing that in pvt" and things that are meant to be sweet, but really just annoy me cause they aren't paying me shit.

What would you do? I don't want to block them, but sometimes I feel a surge of annoyance and want to kick them from my room because they won't pay for my time. But, I mean, they are decent people. But...freeloaders. Hmmmm..... Should I just let them be? >.<

block them the second they come into your room. if you have guys that haven't explicitly said they won't take you private but do keep talking your ears off, ask them if they wanna go pvt since you guys get along well or whatever. if they don't... block them. they're NOT nice guys, they're taking advantage of you! they know perfectly well what they're doing.



Also, I have a regular that comes in and just tips to tease him in free chat. I don't show genitalia. If I'm not wearing a bra under my robe, I'll let a nip slip; flash my breasts. Anyway, he tips me in tokens, but they range from $1-$5, thought it's mostly $1 tokens a few times. Of course, I know I'm only getting chump change -_- Should I tell him that his tips need to be higher? Like, flash a tit and that should be a $5 token min?

if you charge $5 for a tit flash, why are you giving him so much for way less? I wouldn't even do all of that in free chat on SM, I'd only do it in pvt. you're selling yourself short

We all have to learn, so don't feel bad and just keep going!

AlyssaJane
04-16-2015, 12:26 AM
I've had a lot of this my first couple weeks. The guys who stay for EVER and just want attention, spend no money. I havent had to ban. Usually when I ask them repeatedly if we should go private the slink away.

Prussia
04-16-2015, 12:37 AM
omg this is my 6th day in the web camming world; on SM (currently online)

I am learning fast, ladies.

No longer do I show my ass when someone asks, even when nicely.
Starting today, I refused to show my ass for free when someone (nicely) requested me to. I was reading other posts about that, and yeah, I SHOULD be tipped for an ass preview.

As for feet, I'll let those Foot Freaks look at my toes, soles, heels, arches. Lol.

NO. Make them pay.. to them your feet are no different than the guys who want to see ass or tits.


Ok, so I have an...issue? I don't know how I feel about this: these two guys have, like, "befriended" me. They're ok to talk to. Like, we have actual conversations, so, they allow me to fill the silence of my room here and there. And we have interesting topics to discuss every now and then. So, not too bad for freeloaders. (and he let's me know where I'm placed on the website).
But, THAT is the issue. They're freeloaders in my room. One even admitted that he won't take me to private because he can't afford to. And they say shit, like, "I'm glad you're back" "I'll dream of you" "I was thinking of you" "I'm wouldn't want you doing that in pvt" and things that are meant to be sweet, but really just annoy me cause they aren't paying me shit.

What would you do? I don't want to block them, but sometimes I feel a surge of annoyance and want to kick them from my room because they won't pay for my time. But, I mean, they are decent people. But...freeloaders. Hmmmm..... Should I just let them be? >.<

These guys are all freeloaders. They try to be gentlemen, white knights, get you in the friend zone, tell you you're too ___ to be doing this, or the don't feel right paying you, and so on and so on. Block and move along. They are going to waste your time, cramp your cam room style and funk up your hustle. Would these guys like it if you went to their work and fucked around with their time like this? No. You are not there to be these guys friends, you are there to provide them a service AKA work.


Also, I have a regular that comes in and just tips to tease him in free chat. I don't show genitalia. If I'm not wearing a bra under my robe, I'll let a nip slip; flash my breasts. Anyway, he tips me in tokens, but they range from $1-$5, thought it's mostly $1 tokens a few times. Of course, I know I'm only getting chump change -_- Should I tell him that his tips need to be higher? Like, flash a tit and that should be a $5 token min?[/b]

This is the kind of guy you want in your room. Someone that is paying for your time. If he can't go to private at least the tips are rolling in. Keep this guy coming back for more and use him as example to other guys. You can make a tip menu for what ever you want that is ok with site rules. You must keep panties on so you can feel free to ask for tips for feet, ass, tits, shoe/sock/stocking change etc. Watch some girls on the front page to see how to get guys to tip for requests. If you have videos you can also include them in the tip list and send auto messages in your open room if it's slow and see if guys want to buy those.


Still much more to learn... like WTF STREAMATE WHAT THE SHIT IS THIS "3 WEEK PAYMENT DELAY" fuck you, I got rent to pay. I e-mailed them today when they replied with that shit. I told them that I absolutely canNOT wait 3 weeks when I have rent to pay, so hopefully they'll send me my check. I'm hoping to hear from them tomorrow.
There is a thread about the Streamate paychecks, and I read posts from the other girls. Has anyone experienced the 3 Week Paycheck Delay? Their damn "21 days hold to prevent fraud" shit.

Also, I never knew that cuckolding was a word nor a thing. And da fuq penis humiliation, holy balls, dude. holy balls.
Not sure what something is? Urban Dictionary that shit. Penis humiliation is SPH, you make fun of their small cocks. It is so much fun, do not let those ones slip away! :D Also, can't wait until you learn what CEI is! ;D

Halo88
04-16-2015, 01:08 AM
Why are so many guys telling me they will "brb" or "be right back" or "be back in a sec" like.... what is happening... it's a LOT all of a sudden. So weird.

I think it is mobile users switching between apps. Some mobile users will appear to pop in and out of the room if they are switching back and forth. That is why sometimes we see people coming in to say hello and then disappear for a while.

IvyRose
04-16-2015, 03:09 AM
SM has been lowering daily limits. They are logging into a different account. At least, that is my theory.

Ahhh that makes sense... Now i know why I am having my regs coming in under different usernames - and getting kicked out because of limits sooner than normally.
Bright side here is that I just contacted live support (while using my cstomer account) to see for myself how it works to get a higher limit, and it goes very easy and smooth. Got it done under 3 minutes and could choose my own limit (doubled it, while I dont pay for shows a lot.. like once or twice a year).
So the guys can go higher with ease

xxtinamariexx
04-16-2015, 06:51 AM
Okay, I have never seen the encoder do this before, I just finished an exclusive and I see the encoder log moving.. and it said:

Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:25 : Start DVR command received
Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:25 : Warning : Please prefix 'mp4:' to the stream name to record H264/AAC/HE-AAC encoded data at FMS using DVR feature.
Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:26 : Requested DVR command has been successfully issued to Primary FMS server for stream o/14038815/show_98099209
Thu Apr 16 2015 09:45:15 : Primary - Network Status: NetConnection.Connect.Closed status
Thu Apr 16 2015 09:45:20 : Primary - Disconnected


As soon as I saw it I didnt start any command. Has any one seen this? now I am paranoid someone took control of my computer! (to much Cyber-CSI lol)

hyori
04-16-2015, 07:30 AM
What?? they have what?? Why?? How does that make sense??

I always thought it was them room hopping or reseting the room etc. :-/

SM automatically lowers limits for guys who haven't logged on in awhile. It's just to protect from credit card fraud.

HurricaneRed
04-16-2015, 10:20 AM
Dude comes in. Call me daddy, call me daddy, blah blah blah.

Me: Sure, sweetie, I'll happily call you that all night long in a session.

Dude: No, now.

Me: Okay, tip me a few gold and I'll call you that right now!

Dude: No, say it and then we go private.

Me: (rolling eyes, finger on kick button) That's not how it works with me. I don't do tricks in the hopes of getting a private, either you'd like to play or you don't. It's no skin off my back if you don't. (*sweet smile*)

Dude: *immediately takes me into premium* (first words out of his mouth are...) You made daddy mad.

Me: (*boggling that he paid after I apparently pissed him off*) Ooh, is daddy gonna spank me?



And we rolled from there. But lmao. What even.

BritishBecky
04-16-2015, 10:28 AM
^It might be worse than him trying to get free stuff - he may have been trying to get you banned. I think 'Daddy' play is against the rules on SM. No taboo roleplay.

Prussia
04-16-2015, 10:56 AM
SM automatically lowers limits for guys who haven't logged on in awhile. It's just to protect from credit card fraud.

Ahhh thanks Hyori, that makes sense. :)

HurricaneRed
04-16-2015, 11:27 AM
^It might be worse than him trying to get free stuff - he may have been trying to get you banned. I think 'Daddy' play is against the rules on SM. No taboo roleplay.

What, really? I come from the kink community so 'daddy' is just another type of dominant and I didn't think twice about it! Thanks for telling me, I'll be sure to watch for it in the future.

Smurfette
04-16-2015, 11:36 AM
He's not trying to get you banned. I've been doing daddy & taboo shows on SM for years even though they're technically not allowed. I've never once been warned about it or anything. Do it at your own risk of course, but IMO it's one of those rules that just isn't enforced at all. And I honestly think there is NOTHING at all risky about saying the word "daddy" whatsoever.

Thymian
04-16-2015, 11:43 AM
Dude: *immediately takes me into premium* (first words out of his mouth are...) You made daddy mad.

You make daddy take you exclusive next time! :)

Violet_Z
04-16-2015, 12:25 PM
How can you tell what page of streamates you are listed on if you have your own area geoblocked so you can't see your self?

gypsy1
04-16-2015, 12:55 PM
How can you tell what page of streamates you are listed on if you have your own area geoblocked so you can't see your self?

Damn. That's probably why I can't find myself whenever I try to look. I'm soooo slow when it comes to remembering that I geoblock my state.

xxtinamariexx
04-16-2015, 01:09 PM
How can you tell what page of streamates you are listed on if you have your own area geoblocked so you can't see your self?

You are going to have to ask someone that is not in the state you blocked, to check for you

HurricaneRed
04-16-2015, 02:14 PM
How can you tell what page of streamates you are listed on if you have your own area geoblocked so you can't see your self?

You also might be able to use a proxy server in another state to check as well.

BritishBecky
04-16-2015, 02:16 PM
He's not trying to get you banned. I've been doing daddy & taboo shows on SM for years even though they're technically not allowed. I've never once been warned about it or anything. Do it at your own risk of course, but IMO it's one of those rules that just isn't enforced at all. And I honestly think there is NOTHING at all risky about saying the word "daddy" whatsoever.

I've previously had a warning when a guy had 'daddy' in his username and I referred to that username in free chat. Depends if there's anyone there willing to report...

Violet_Z
04-16-2015, 02:17 PM
You are going to have to ask someone that is not in the state you blocked, to check for you

I'm disappointed.. I guess I'm gonna have to unblock myself from time to time.

AliceFun
04-16-2015, 03:19 PM
Two things i learned tonite on SM: not to kick silent guys out of my room anymore cause they might join pvt & watch my show in silence while performing for another guy & second, SM Really promotes us on dating sites, this dude took me pvt w.o even realizing he's paying (that's how it felt) then he opened his camera & asked things, i pulled as much time as possible when i realized what he's up to but then he asked where i was from, when i told him my virtual location he said he's far away me, he believed i was living there near him in the suburbs (lol), then he said ty, bye & left but i got $15 out of him :) Nice!

AlyssaJane
04-16-2015, 03:55 PM
Dude comes in. Call me daddy, call me daddy, blah blah blah.

Me: Sure, sweetie, I'll happily call you that all night long in a session.

Dude: No, now.

Me: Okay, tip me a few gold and I'll call you that right now!

Dude: No, say it and then we go private.

Me: (rolling eyes, finger on kick button) That's not how it works with me. I don't do tricks in the hopes of getting a private, either you'd like to play or you don't. It's no skin off my back if you don't. (*sweet smile*)

Dude: *immediately takes me into premium* (first words out of his mouth are...) You made daddy mad.

Me: (*boggling that he paid after I apparently pissed him off*) Ooh, is daddy gonna spank me?



And we rolled from there. But lmao. What even.

I'm shocked you got a session. Awesome! And this story cracked me up!

AlyssaJane
04-16-2015, 03:58 PM
How can you tell what page of streamates you are listed on if you have your own area geoblocked so you can't see your self?

I have this same frustration. Every. Single. Day. Best I can think of is just ask somebody out of state to check for you.

1pandoradesire
04-16-2015, 04:46 PM
So knowing that traffic is diverted to gold shows, I started one today. Knowing gold shows are sold on another site owned by sm of Which models do not profit from I had no intention of starting the show. I did however get a laugh out of setting the goal at $3000.00. Lol...I feel like I need to hire the auctioneer from storage wars to auction my ass off online...just a thought

JustCallMeBree
04-16-2015, 05:26 PM
I have this same frustration. Every. Single. Day. Best I can think of is just ask somebody out of state to check for you.

All this time I've been thinking that my rating must just be horribly low since I could never find myself. ( Bonks myself on forehead) Thanks Ladies.

sexkitten_666
04-16-2015, 06:08 PM
WOW SM kept kicking my guys out! It's a miracle I made half my goal. Did anyone else have issues?

Tigrillo
04-16-2015, 06:20 PM
I had a very rough day too sexkitten. I had lots of privates but there were all 1 and 2 minutes long, and a couple of guys came back and said 'Shall we try again?' you froze on me. Plus I'm certain I had a sizable delay. Uggggh.

My round trip was very low in my ranking page all morning, then an hour before I had to quit, it went back to normal, and so did my traffic, and stream... God only knows what it depends on. I think it's completely random depending on how SM manages its resources, but ungggh.

SarahTime
04-16-2015, 07:34 PM
How is it that SM can be SOOO good one week and utter shit the next.

It's fucking with my emotions.

Marina Starr
04-16-2015, 07:44 PM
Right? Makes me feel like a Yo-yo cam girl. Up and down, up and down!
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How is it that SM can be SOOO good one week and utter shit the next.

It's fucking with my emotions.

JessRyan
04-16-2015, 08:47 PM
Dude comes in. Call me daddy, call me daddy, blah blah blah.

Me: Sure, sweetie, I'll happily call you that all night long in a session.

Dude: No, now.

Me: Okay, tip me a few gold and I'll call you that right now!

Dude: No, say it and then we go private.

Me: (rolling eyes, finger on kick button) That's not how it works with me. I don't do tricks in the hopes of getting a private, either you'd like to play or you don't. It's no skin off my back if you don't. (*sweet smile*)

Dude: *immediately takes me into premium* (first words out of his mouth are...) You made daddy mad.

Me: (*boggling that he paid after I apparently pissed him off*) Ooh, is daddy gonna spank me?



And we rolled from there. But lmao. What even.

LOL I'll call you daddy, Daddy Warbucks that is. Funny

JessRyan
04-16-2015, 08:52 PM
What, really? I come from the kink community so 'daddy' is just another type of dominant and I didn't think twice about it! Thanks for telling me, I'll be sure to watch for it in the future.

She's right. If I get a younger guy who wants the mom/son roleplay, I tell them, I can do MILF next door. I don't even go there. I don't get any "daddy's" though, most my guys want me to be the older lady...the MILF. Ha! You gotta nip that stuff right from the start. I find that most of my younger guys wanting the older lady go private anyways. ;-)

IvyAdams
04-16-2015, 09:39 PM
How is it that SM can be SOOO good one week and utter shit the next.

It's fucking with my emotions.

UGH, girl, YES. I have been all over the place this week with an emotional rollercoaster because of SM. Last week and the week before were both AMAZING and I felt like a goddess. This week I go from wanting to strangle all of the guys in free chat to breaking down to my boyfriend like a crazy sniveling crying mess! AHH!!

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Issabelle
04-16-2015, 09:43 PM
Finally got a show of decent ish length going and the guy immediately started triggering my red flag sensors. Had to ban him mid-way for ridiculous micro-management/directing/bitching at me when I questioned him and his need to 'reassure me' it was 'no big deal' and I'd 'trusted [him] so far.'

Yeah, not feeling bad to lose out on the rest of that show. Fucker.

Come on SM--give me something DECENT tonight!

candeeboxxx
04-16-2015, 09:45 PM
Done with all the glitches tonight. A couple of my regulars telling me they can't even type to chat with me or stay in paid for more than 2 mins. Really? Glad a couple of them were determined tonight to get off! Here's to tomorrow being Friday!! Make that money roll in!

SarahTime
04-16-2015, 09:52 PM
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2013-10/enhanced/webdr05/29/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-9546-1383060713-3.gif

Thymian
04-16-2015, 10:11 PM
Okay, I have never seen the encoder do this before, I just finished an exclusive and I see the encoder log moving.. and it said:

Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:25 : Start DVR command received
Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:25 : Warning : Please prefix 'mp4:' to the stream name to record H264/AAC/HE-AAC encoded data at FMS using DVR feature.
Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:26 : Requested DVR command has been successfully issued to Primary FMS server for stream o/14038815/show_98099209
Thu Apr 16 2015 09:45:15 : Primary - Network Status: NetConnection.Connect.Closed status
Thu Apr 16 2015 09:45:20 : Primary - Disconnected


As soon as I saw it I didnt start any command. Has any one seen this? now I am paranoid someone took control of my computer! (to much Cyber-CSI lol)

So I've been kind of thinking about this since you posted, and now I am very curious. First rule out the obvious: Did you notice if the "DVR Auto Record" box in the lower right was checked, perhaps by accident? You may not remember, but sometimes things get selected/unselected in my encoder settings just by me clicking around, esp switching between tabs. I doubt someone would be tampering with it on the other end, because to successfully record they would need to make sure you had that box checked, if I understand how it works at all (which is doubtful tbh).

Even so, the only thing this would mean is SM is recording our feed, which they do anyway but I didn't think this was the route they used (I know nothing about the feature really, LOL). I wouldn't be too paranoid though because only someone on the server side, which is SM, would have access to the mp4 of your stream, which they do already. If it is something new I can only wonder if they (SM) are trying something new--with the DVR Record feature, they can push video, even prerecorded, through as if it's live, and can even scrub back and forth in time. So it could perhaps function as a kind of buffer?* Which is already built into our encoder settings.

Or perhaps they are testing a way of converting the FLV/flash stream to MP4/quicktime as an alternate feed for mobile, since mobile devices/apps are not Flash-friendly.

Thinking out loud here, LOL. I feel like this could use Hyori's brain!

*eta–and of course the obvious culprit would be the ability to push a pre-recorded feed "live" through WLs, which again, isn't much more than they do already.

StellaPurr
04-17-2015, 04:23 AM
I was under the impression that when you kick someone out of yr room they can't come back for a certain amount of time? I dunno why I thought this. I kicked a guy out because he told me he never buys shows and will never boy a show, he just likes to hang out and talk to pretty ladies. Ugh it's like loitering in a coffee shop all day and hitting on the baristas and waitresses but never buying a cup of coffee. Anyways after I booted him he immediately came back in my room and started calling me names. Should've hit the ban button I guess. On the bright side sm was good to me tonight :)

JessRyan
04-17-2015, 07:00 AM
I was under the impression that when you kick someone out of yr room they can't come back for a certain amount of time? I dunno why I thought this. I kicked a guy out because he told me he never buys shows and will never boy a show, he just likes to hang out and talk to pretty ladies. Ugh it's like loitering in a coffee shop all day and hitting on the baristas and waitresses but never buying a cup of coffee. Anyways after I booted him he immediately came back in my room and started calling me names. Should've hit the ban button I guess. On the bright side sm was good to me tonight :)

Funny you mention this, I was JUST wondering and was going to post the question about the "boot" how long are the guys booted? Is it better to hit the ban button?

DancesWithSloths
04-17-2015, 07:24 AM
They can come back immediately. I use the kick in combination with "come back when you're ready to do a show" when they hang around chattering for too long. If they annoy me, I just ban them.

hyori
04-17-2015, 08:32 AM
So I've been kind of thinking about this since you posted, and now I am very curious. First rule out the obvious: Did you notice if the "DVR Auto Record" box in the lower right was checked, perhaps by accident? You may not remember, but sometimes things get selected/unselected in my encoder settings just by me clicking around, esp switching between tabs. I doubt someone would be tampering with it on the other end, because to successfully record they would need to make sure you had that box checked, if I understand how it works at all (which is doubtful tbh).

Even so, the only thing this would mean is SM is recording our feed, which they do anyway but I didn't think this was the route they used (I know nothing about the feature really, LOL). I wouldn't be too paranoid though because only someone on the server side, which is SM, would have access to the mp4 of your stream, which they do already. If it is something new I can only wonder if they (SM) are trying something new--with the DVR Record feature, they can push video, even prerecorded, through as if it's live, and can even scrub back and forth in time. So it could perhaps function as a kind of buffer?* Which is already built into our encoder settings.

Or perhaps they are testing a way of converting the FLV/flash stream to MP4/quicktime as an alternate feed for mobile, since mobile devices/apps are not Flash-friendly.

Thinking out loud here, LOL. I feel like this could use Hyori's brain!

*eta–and of course the obvious culprit would be the ability to push a pre-recorded feed "live" through WLs, which again, isn't much more than they do already.

Awwww, I am beyond flattered you mentioned me for this! Thank you for the brain boost.

It looks like SM was trying to record Tina's show and they did successfully start the session however, it was disconnected.

"Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:25 : Start DVR command received"

That means the DVR (recording command) was initiated.

"Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:25 : Warning : Please prefix 'mp4:' to the stream name to record H264/AAC/HE-AAC encoded data at FMS using DVR feature."

Adobe is warning the person who initiated the recording to put mp4 in front of the stream name in this format: mp4:<streamname>.mp4 so that the show is recorded in .mp4 rather than the default .f4v.

"Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:26 : Requested DVR command has been successfully issued to Primary FMS server for stream o/14038815/show_98099209"

That means the livestream request and recording was successful. However in the following lines it looks as if it was disconnected and that could be due to various reasons. There is a slim possibility her feed was being hacked but SM may have security in place to quickly end any livestream hacking attempts and therefore the quick disconnection. The reason I know is that I was trying to figure out a way to stream on MFC with OBS, (Open Broadcaster Software), and that requires the key strings and I am not able to find that out from MFC. MFC does this on purpose to protect from hackers. They have software in place that detects a hijack of FME keys and will then quickly replace the livestream with a Rick Roll video...hahaha.

If you're wondering why I tried to stream on MFC with OBS it's because I wanted to use the timer plug-in for OBS and do my own version of a gold show countdown on MFC...if it worked it would be been so cool but it was a total fail. Is that geeky or what?

I was told that SM couldn't record our private live stream shows only our Gold shows if we use the encoder. I agree with Thymian that this could indicate the conversion of Tina's livestream to .mp4 for mobile streaming and judging by the outcome it was not successful. If all of us have this issue, then it is due to the poor execution of SM's mobile interface converting the .f4v to .mp4. SM's mobile app only works properly using the B-line browser so I wouldn't be surprised if Tina's mobile stream was disconnected due to the end user who was using some other browser on their mobile device and not an actual hacker.

That being said, for awhile MFC had a great mobile site, but they did some upgrades and now it's just as bad as SM. Seems like only CB has mobile down pat.

DancesWithSloths
04-17-2015, 08:44 AM
MFC does this on purpose to protect from hackers. They have software in place that detects a hijack of FME keys and will then quickly replace the livestream with a Rick Roll video...hahaha.

Oh, Internet. <3

kitty_frost
04-17-2015, 09:06 AM
Is there a way that you can see all the earnings that havn't been paid to you yet, as oppose to searching each week and adding it up? I just switched to payoneer, and the minimum payout is 100$. I'm very sure I have over that, and I've had over that since friday last week, but my payment history shows absolutely nothing. Do I just have to make more? It says that my payoneer account is confirmed and everything.

xxtinamariexx
04-17-2015, 09:29 AM
Awwww, I am beyond flattered you mentioned me for this! Thank you for the brain boost.

It looks like SM was trying to record Tina's show and they did successfully start the session however, it was disconnected.

"Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:25 : Start DVR command received"

That means the DVR (recording command) was initiated.

"Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:25 : Warning : Please prefix 'mp4:' to the stream name to record H264/AAC/HE-AAC encoded data at FMS using DVR feature."

Adobe is warning the person who initiated the recording to put mp4 in front of the stream name in this format: mp4:<streamname>.mp4 so that the show is recorded in .mp4 rather than the default .f4v.

"Thu Apr 16 2015 09:44:26 : Requested DVR command has been successfully issued to Primary FMS server for stream o/14038815/show_98099209"

That means the livestream request and recording was successful. However in the following lines it looks as if it was disconnected and that could be due to various reasons. There is a slim possibility her feed was being hacked but SM may have security in place to quickly end any livestream hacking attempts and therefore the quick disconnection. The reason I know is that I was trying to figure out a way to stream on MFC with OBS, (Open Broadcaster Software), and that requires the key strings and I am not able to find that out from MFC. MFC does this on purpose to protect from hackers. They have software in place that detects a hijack of FME keys and will then quickly replace the livestream with a Rick Roll video...hahaha.

If you're wondering why I tried to stream on MFC with OBS it's because I wanted to use the timer plug-in for OBS and do my own version of a gold show countdown on MFC...if it worked it would be been so cool but it was a total fail. Is that geeky or what?

I was told that SM couldn't record our private live stream shows only our Gold shows if we use the encoder. I agree with Thymian that this could indicate the conversion of Tina's livestream to .mp4 for mobile streaming and judging by the outcome it was not successful. If all of us have this issue, then it is due to the poor execution of SM's mobile interface converting the .f4v to .mp4. SM's mobile app only works properly using the B-line browser so I wouldn't be surprised if Tina's mobile stream was disconnected due to the end user who was using some other browser on their mobile device and not an actual hacker.

That being said, for awhile MFC had a great mobile site, but they did some upgrades and now it's just as bad as SM. Seems like only CB has mobile down pat.

Thank you Hyori! I was the one that ended my session as soon as I saw that, I as looking at my times, and my first show after logging in was at 1339 it lasted 3 min and 43 sec. so i would have just gotten out of the show and getting dressed when that was started. I was playing today, and the only way I could have done it was to actually click record, and I couldn't have done that while i was getting dressed.

I didn't notice the times yesterday, I just know that when I got out of the show, I shaw dvr started and it freaked me out!

BritishBecky
04-17-2015, 09:49 AM
And you don't have the DVR autorecord checked?

xxtinamariexx
04-17-2015, 10:13 AM
And you don't have the DVR autorecord checked?

Nope, I have the encoder saved in my start bar and I just open c & P the streams and url and start thats it. If I did have it checked, it would have started right when I clicked start. not 15 min later..