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JessRyan
05-08-2015, 08:12 PM
Really? I'm gonna do that next time because I got a one star for doing everything this dude told me to and still got a one star.

Try again to get it removed. I did and got my one star rating removed. It was given my FIRST DAY of camming!! I got a total of 7 ratings and 6 were 5 star..and ONE was 1 star!! I simply explained it was very strange that 6 guys loved me and 1 guy didn't, so could they please remove it? I was very nice and thanking them (support) for their time and help. It worked for me. Fuck that guy! Sometimes being extra sweet helps. Worth a try.

Isabelly
05-08-2015, 08:52 PM
I love this forum!!

Just did my first "show" on streamate, my first time camming (ever)! I was only on for about 45 minutes and didn't get any privates or anything, but had a few guys who stopped to chat.

I had like three guys who said they added me to their favorites, but on my dashboard it says "0 active members love you". So did they just lie lol or does it take some time for that to show, or what?

I'm excited for next week when I can get on for much longer!

SimoneGray
05-08-2015, 08:55 PM
^^ it takes a while for favourites to show

PeterPan
05-08-2015, 09:04 PM
I love this forum!!

Just did my first "show" on streamate, my first time camming (ever)! I was only on for about 45 minutes and didn't get any privates or anything, but had a few guys who stopped to chat.

I had like three guys who said they added me to their favorites, but on my dashboard it says "0 active members love you". So did they just lie lol or does it take some time for that to show, or what?

I'm excited for next week when I can get on for much longer!


Congrats!

And, yeah, it takes a while for it to show.
In the My Rankings page, it says "Recent activity may not appear in this report for up to 24 hours." I think it also applies to people who favorite you.

SarahTime
05-08-2015, 09:17 PM
I don't think the in and out thing and being disconnected is just a mobile issue anymore.

Three times tonight I've had a private with someone on cam 2 cam so I know they are not on mobile, and also had another guy in at the same time. All 3 of those times, BOTH guys logged off at the exact same time to the second. There's no way they are all logging out at the same time. They are being disconnected from the site. Two of the guys that were on cam 2 cam came back to finish and said sorry they got kicked. I told them to report to the site but I doubt they will.

Fucking ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

gingerstripper
05-08-2015, 09:17 PM
I looked at my 90days and i had one in feb. and i had 2 today and they were all 5 stars. so im thinking glitch. i mean i use to go months without doing actual pvts.. cause all i do is gold shows and so it doesnt make sense really.

Isabelly
05-08-2015, 09:36 PM
Thank you ladies! Good to know. ;D So, question. Is it feasible to expect decent pay for just camming on SM, making around $500 a week? Not camming on any other sites or having social media platforms, just putting in the hours on SM...

PeterPan
05-08-2015, 10:13 PM
Thank you ladies! Good to know. ;D So, question. Is it feasible to expect decent pay for just camming on SM, making around $500 a week? Not camming on any other sites or having social media platforms, just putting in the hours on SM...

This is MY experience.

I have 30+ days of exp in the cam world. Streamate is the only site I'm on. So far, I'm making between $300-$400+ weekly.
My pay has a few variables: the first 3 weeks, my streaming quality was shit initially; in the past 11 days since I've upgraded my tech, I've made a LOT more money due to the improved quality. Like, this week's payout I've made $700+ already. First time to go beyond $499.

The first two weeks, I put in 8-12 hours 7 days/week. Then my hours started dwindling because I exhausted myself from that many hours and dealing with my 6 y/o laptop's shittiness.
At this point, I put in 5-7 hours per day in total (I work a few hours, take a break, and then work again), working 6 days a week.

I don't promote myself at all. I'm still undecided about how much I'm willing to expose myself on the internet since camming is not a future career for me.

But, I did make a Modelcentro site to link up to my Streamate page. Regarding that, I know I definitely want to sell my panties. As far as videos go, I'm still undecided, but because that page is mainly for Toys/Lingerie sells, and for customers to buy me stuff :)), I actually have my membership prices pretty low @ $12.99 month ($10.99 for SM customers). I'm still waiting for the SM+Modelcentro connection/approval.

If you're curious about rates (cause I'm ALWAYS curious about rates), my normal rates are 3.99 PRV/4.99 EXC. But, I like to play with them (amongst other things ;p) every few days. 5.99 PRV / 4.29 EXC, etc. I have yet to ask SM Support to increase my rates to the maximum allowed. I will soon, though, but in the meantime, I'm experimenting.

Welps, that's my camming business so far! Hope this gives you some insight. Feel free to PM me anytime, too. #newbies! :B

Magical_Hoohah
05-08-2015, 10:15 PM
I looked at my 90days and i had one in feb. and i had 2 today and they were all 5 stars. so im thinking glitch. i mean i use to go months without doing actual pvts.. cause all i do is gold shows and so it doesnt make sense really.
I think they put you at 4 stars unless you have 5 ratings in the past 90 days, and you only have 3, so maybe that's it. Once you get two more ratings, then they should start counting. Although I have no idea how they handled your ratings when you were only doing gold shows. Maybe they have some other way of doing the rating math for that situation?

Issabelle
05-08-2015, 10:32 PM
^^ Magical is correct. You need 5 ratings in the previous 90 days. Less than that means the system defaults you to 4 stars.

doublerainbow
05-09-2015, 01:23 AM
The glitchiness is totally discouraging, especially as I'm just starting out again and don't get much traffic as it is. I get a lot of in-n-outs but also a lot of guys who repeatedly pop in over and over, and some who begin discussing shows only for my entire room to be cleared out at once.

It's miserable when the money's out there waiting for you and you can't find the motivation to log on because you know you'll barely be able to actually collect any of it.

Also, have any of you noticed that you'll suddenly get a stream of traffic every now and then out of nowhere? I mean obviously, like your profile wasn't available and then suddenly people could see it? I've had an empty room for half an hour, then suddenly 15 guys flooding in at once and 5 minutes later they're gone again.

gypsy1
05-09-2015, 06:15 AM
Also, have any of you noticed that you'll suddenly get a stream of traffic every now and then out of nowhere? I mean obviously, like your profile wasn't available and then suddenly people could see it? I've had an empty room for half an hour, then suddenly 15 guys flooding in at once and 5 minutes later they're gone again.

Yes! This has been happening to me lately. Usually I never have that many guys in my room but every now and then I'll have a bunch in at once and it makes me wonder how all of a sudden they all found me.

Glamourmilf
05-09-2015, 10:51 AM
[QUOTE=gypsy1;2758314]Yes! This has been happening to me lately. Usually I never have that many guys in my room but every now and then I'll have a bunch in at once and it makes me wonder how all of a sudden they all found me.[/ Yes, that happens to me as well.
what really pisses me off is when its slow, and hardly any guys stay in my room, then 4 or 5 of my regs pop in at once.
Only 1 takes me exclusive, and when I get back, all my regs have disappeared! I've thought of inviting them all to go premium, but they all want different fetishes. *sigh
So frustrating to never really know who's pulling the SM strings back there. (not just sm, but all the sites, really.) Things that make You go hmmm..

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shysara79
05-09-2015, 12:30 PM
I too, as some of you other ladies, am noticing a big decline in traffic, glitches,paying customers, and heck even talking customers. It has been said somewhere on the thread that when times are slow that you should stay online and tough it out. I also had read in a thread (not sure which one) that its a good idea to log off if after 30 minutes or so you had not had a show. Im just curious what ya'll are doing when it comes to this? Are you staying on and toughing it out and hoping for that one big spender? Or logging off and saying F it and then coming back in a few hours?

Also what about lowering your rates with these really slow periods? It is so hard to stay on and chipper when you sometimes sit for 30 or 45 minutes without a show when you are used to having one every 10 to 15 minutes. My hourly income can vary drastically from one hour to the next anymore... nothing is consistent or reliable it seems. Hope it picks up !

SoloDesire
05-09-2015, 01:14 PM
I too, as some of you other ladies, am noticing a big decline in traffic, glitches,paying customers, and heck even talking customers. It has been said somewhere on the thread that when times are slow that you should stay online and tough it out. I also had read in a thread (not sure which one) that its a good idea to log off if after 30 minutes or so you had not had a show. Im just curious what ya'll are doing when it comes to this? Are you staying on and toughing it out and hoping for that one big spender? Or logging off and saying F it and then coming back in a few hours?

Also what about lowering your rates with these really slow periods? It is so hard to stay on and chipper when you sometimes sit for 30 or 45 minutes without a show when you are used to having one every 10 to 15 minutes. My hourly income can vary drastically from one hour to the next anymore... nothing is consistent or reliable it seems. Hope it picks up !

Everyone is different so do what works best for you. Personally, I try to stay on for my full shift even when it's slow. I find it's easiest when I split my shift so that I'm not sitting for too long at a time. I do 3 or so hours in the afternoon and 2 or so hours in the evening...that's just what works for my schedule. The only time I log off early without completing my shift is if I get super frustrated and aggro towards potential customers. I'll either log off for 15 or so minutes and cool off, or log off early if it's near the end of my shift. I find that as long as I can stick it out (and I'm usually browsing the Web when it's slow) I'm not so hard on myself because at least I was there and made myself available for my regs.

ETA: Also I never lower my rates when it's slow! Ever! That will just make me more frustrated.

JessRyan
05-09-2015, 01:37 PM
I too, as some of you other ladies, am noticing a big decline in traffic, glitches,paying customers, and heck even talking customers. It has been said somewhere on the thread that when times are slow that you should stay online and tough it out. I also had read in a thread (not sure which one) that its a good idea to log off if after 30 minutes or so you had not had a show. Im just curious what ya'll are doing when it comes to this? Are you staying on and toughing it out and hoping for that one big spender? Or logging off and saying F it and then coming back in a few hours?

Also what about lowering your rates with these really slow periods? It is so hard to stay on and chipper when you sometimes sit for 30 or 45 minutes without a show when you are used to having one every 10 to 15 minutes. My hourly income can vary drastically from one hour to the next anymore... nothing is consistent or reliable it seems. Hope it picks up !

SoloDesire is right, right and right! Don't lower your rates just because it's slow. I'm a Monday thru Friday girl about 5 to 6 hours a day and a couple hours on the weekend if I can get privacy. I've been camming since New Year's Eve and I've had days where a few hours go by...slow as molasses! Then out of nowhere a regular will come in and get a block, or a new guy will take me exlusive and save the day. I've had this happen more than once. So you never know. Sometimes these posts remind me of things from the past, or people from the past. This reminds me of an older lady I worked with at Follies Strip club in Atlanta. Madison. She was so glamorous and dripped of $$ Even on slow days, you would NEVER know she didn't make any money. She'd laugh and with the southern drawl I can hear her say..."Darlin' don't ever let them know you're broke! Don't ever look broke! Fuck! I walk in lookin' like Jackie Onassis' no matter what!! Always look like money! That's success!"

SweetieBitch
05-09-2015, 03:26 PM
I want to request permission to occasionally bring another existing female cammodel onto my solo account, as I have seen several people on the front page do (I am on the front page, usually between the second and fourth rows, if that matters). I don't think I want to email the general tech support and risk reaching the wrong person who might just blow off my request and tell me to make a couples account... That doesn't seem worthwhile for us at this point, since it will be only once in a while, and we're both established solo models already, so we don't want to have to send all of our favorites/fans to a separate account.

Would Liz or Vanessa possibly be helpful with this? If so could someone please PM me their info? I have never contacted either of them but I have heard many of you recommend emailing them regarding certain SM questions so I figured that'd be my best bet.

Glamourmilf
05-09-2015, 03:42 PM
I want to request permission to occasionally bring another existing female cammodel onto my solo account, as I have seen several people on the front page do (I am on the front page, usually between the second and fourth rows, if that matters). I don't think I want to email the general tech support and risk reaching the wrong person who might just blow off my request and tell me to make a couples account... That doesn't seem worthwhile for us at this point, since it will be only once in a while, and we're both established solo models already, so we don't want to have to send all of our favorites/fans to a separate account.

Would Liz or Vanessa possibly be helpful with this? If so could someone please PM me their info? I have never contacted either of them but I have heard many of you recommend emailing them regarding certain SM questions so I figured that'd be my best bet.
I would email liz.. I made the mistake of emailing SM support directly, (before I knew of Liz, and both the cam model who was already on sm.and I couldnt figure out what they needed from us..because it was a canned, confusing answer.

Issabelle
05-09-2015, 04:25 PM
Yes, email Liz. I contact her anytime another model and I will be working together. She leaves a note on your account telling support to leave you alone and that it's approved. Tell her who it will be (model name), when (dates), and which account you'll be using (if both of your accounts, ask her to leave notes on both).

SweetieBitch
05-09-2015, 04:37 PM
Fabulous, thanks ladies! :)

doublerainbow
05-10-2015, 12:19 AM
I'm going to cry. The same guys keep popping into my room and right back out over and over. Two had enough time to type a greeting before getting kicked out. I don't understand, some girls are having an awesome time on SM - how can it be this glitchy for me and not for everyone? I haven't changed my hardware or software from a few weeks ago when I was doing great there. Now either people can't even find my room (including me) or the site won't let them stay there. It's been this way all day... now I wish it'd go back to just sometimes booting everyone out like it had been for the past week. T_T

doublerainbow
05-10-2015, 03:26 AM
I tried writing to SM support about the issue I'm having with nobody being able to stay in my chatroom and they responded with a generic instruction on how to properly set up the encoder. UGH! Does support not even read the messages they get?

I thought maybe Firefox could somehow be messing things up, even though it's what I've always used, so I tried switching to Chrome... and then no text would appear in my chatroom at all, even to say when someone would enter or exit. Is anyone else experiencing this stuff? I'm gonna rip my hair out...

ArtsyScarlett
05-10-2015, 03:32 AM
I've had a few guys today who were actually on cam and then randomly quit. Wasn't sure if it was me or SM, one was halfway through a conversation no warning. Didn't seem like they finished the session... Is this normal?

IvyAdams
05-10-2015, 06:52 AM
I've had a few guys today who were actually on cam and then randomly quit. Wasn't sure if it was me or SM, one was halfway through a conversation no warning. Didn't seem like they finished the session... Is this normal?

They could have hit their daily limit, which will make them just disappear without warning :)

Kitcatt
05-10-2015, 09:47 AM
Dear GOD the guys were annoying last night. IDK where they came from, but a whole new load of guys who would take me pvt without asking (though clearly stated in my room topic, and sometimes right after I mentioned it in my room) then "double penetrate yr pussy/ mouth/ stick hitachi in pussy/ pound it" I thought I left these guys behind at $1.99. What is up with the traffic recently on streamate? Sorry, this should be in the "camming sucks" thread, but I made goal, just wanted to rip my eyeballs out in the process. It seems like the majority of the guys that I've seen that are knew have been through pornhub?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-10-2015, 11:17 AM
Anyone else having encoder issues? Ive tried the adobe and the obs. My upload speed is 12. But I'm dropping frames. Very choppy. I added more light. And still nothing.

SarahTime
05-10-2015, 02:17 PM
I've had a few guys today who were actually on cam and then randomly quit. Wasn't sure if it was me or SM, one was halfway through a conversation no warning. Didn't seem like they finished the session... Is this normal?

Did you see my post on page 736?

This is happening to me A LOT. But I know they are being kicked because I will have multiple people in private and they all leave at the EXACT same time. I know they are not mobile users because at least one guy will be on c2c. So the being kicked out thing is not just mobile users anymore.

Couple guys have come back to finish the show and they usually blame their internet but I've been telling them it's the site and asking them to complain to support.

Marina Starr
05-10-2015, 02:29 PM
I have the same upload speed as you! My bitrate and round drip have dropped so much but my freed is still good. Very strange. I hope you get it sorted out.

Anyone else having encoder issues? Ive tried the adobe and the obs. My upload speed is 12. But I'm dropping frames. Very choppy. I added more light. And still nothing.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-10-2015, 02:42 PM
I have the same upload speed as you! My bitrate and round drip have dropped so much but my freed is still good. Very strange. I hope you get it sorted out.

Ive just been bouncing around from site to site. It smoothed itself out long enough to make $25. Gonna take a break try elsewhere and then come back. But it seems to be working just fine elsewhere? I still have an appointment for tomorrow with my ISP. Crossing my fingers it works itself out.

DanBea
05-10-2015, 06:14 PM
Gold shows are like begging for money. Tried yesterday and now for the first time and uuughh no way. I just cancelled instead of restarting. Cheap asses tip 2 and feel entitled. These shows cater to freeloaders and cheap asses.
I was thinking that maybe it could attract some members, but this is not the kind of members I want in my room.
I wish gold shows didn't exist...my opinion ok? I just think they are a presente to members who don't desserve a present.

hyori
05-10-2015, 06:28 PM
^^ Yes, I agree but even Neiman Marcus has sales so I'm OK with gold shows now. I find them fun and the high I get when I meet goal is really cool. I like the control they give me over doing my shows and they are a godsend when I get bored from sitting around waiting for privates and talking to freeloaders. They are also less intimate and more about doing a generic show. Ive got it down to a science now and could probably do them in my sleep because of the repetitive routine.

Marina Starr
05-10-2015, 06:28 PM
Yeeeeeeeeeees!
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gold shows are like begging for money. Tried yesterday and now for the first time and uuughh no way. i just cancelled instead of restarting. cheap asses tip 2 and feel entitled. These shows cater to freeloaders and cheap asses.
I was thinking that maybe it could attract some members, but this is not the kind of members i want in my room.
I wish gold shows didn't exist...my opinion ok? I just think they are a presente to members who don't desserve a present.

DanBea
05-10-2015, 06:33 PM
I totally get what you mean, Hyori, but we are not a product from Neiman Marcus. They are our bodies, I really don't like the idea of putting them on a discounted price...

DanBea
05-10-2015, 06:35 PM
I tried to do a gold show and maybe one day I might try again out of boredom and because I think that's the direction camming seems to be going and I don't wanna be those people who refuse to change and move on...but me no gusta!!

DanBea
05-10-2015, 06:38 PM
41618Waiting for a private on streamate.

hyori
05-10-2015, 06:41 PM
I think of gold shows as more of a charity. The poor guys who can't afford to be with me in private can at least get a taste of my fabulousness. They can take what I give them and that's it. Eat it up baby. There's no more after the 7 minutes of heaven unless you pay up!

Marina Starr
05-10-2015, 06:44 PM
Do GS on your own terms and when you want to. Not because you want to offer discount. Last time I checked, even Wal-Mart don't offer roll back pussy!
There are plenty of top models that will tell you they make way more money doing privates/exclusive so camming is not going that way.

I tried to do a gold show and maybe one day I might try again out of boredom and because I think that's the direction camming seems to be going and I don't wanna be those people who refuse to change and move on...but me no gusta!!

DanBea
05-10-2015, 06:48 PM
True, Marina...so true!!

Marina Starr
05-10-2015, 06:55 PM
$25 is more than enough for a pumpkin bread and Venti iced coffee from Starbucks. Yes GOD! #starbucks #starbuckswhore #starbucksaddict
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Ive just been bouncing around from site to site. It smoothed itself out long enough to make $25. Gonna take a break try elsewhere and then come back. But it seems to be working just fine elsewhere? I still have an appointment for tomorrow with my ISP. Crossing my fingers it works itself out.

hyori
05-10-2015, 07:02 PM
LOL, if Walmart could sell pussy it would be BOGO, rolled back and 50% off because they are all a bunch of assholes. In fact, the employees already bend over and take it up their butts for free! If Amazon sold pussy it would be shipped for free regardless if an employee dies in the overheated warehouse from heat exhaustion.

Is SM going to be Walmart and Amazon? Nope, because men want all different kinds of products. Men will pay triple the cost for something that will improve something they like a lot in their lives eg. the finest synthetic oil for their car, the genuine Marvel limited edition model, the mechanical keyboard with 24k gold key caps etc. There are different types of men for every kind of product you offer. I no longer feel cheapened by Gold shows. It's not the price. It is how much you sell to the widest range of the market. Apple and Starbucks markets this way and it works wonders!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-10-2015, 07:02 PM
I got a bottle of Chardonnay and a Red Velvet cookie from Target. WINNING!


$25 is more than enough for a pumpkin bread and Venti iced coffee from Starbucks. Yes GOD! #starbucks #starbuckswhore #starbucksaddict
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GracieBlue
05-10-2015, 07:09 PM
Then don't. But to each their own. Some girls only do gold shows and do really well and some only do priv/exc and do really well. At the end of the day, it is about making money and as much as you can. All of us have many different ways(hustles)of getting to that goal. If I need $15 more and a quick and cheap gold show is going to get me that $15 then I am going to do it. I don't feel cheap about my body, I feel smart because I am making my goal.


I totally get what you mean, Hyori, but we are not a product from Neiman Marcus. They are our bodies, I really don't like the idea of putting them on a discounted price...

Marina Starr
05-10-2015, 07:42 PM
To me it's not a matter of being cheap. It's a matter of not doing something if it's going to bring the stress out of you instead of the best. GS puts me in a bad mood so I KNOW not to do them for my own sanity. There is no cookie cutter way to be a cam girl. Everyone is entitled to hustle whatever works for them!

I no longer feel cheapened by Gold shows. It's not the price. It is how much you sell to the widest range of the market. Apple and Starbucks markets this way and it works wonders!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-10-2015, 08:06 PM
I know we always debate this gold show ish, all the time it seems. But today for the brief moment I was on SM I suspect my money came from goldshow guys? I rarely do them. I may do one like $25 buy in for one guy or whatever I think I can get out of him. 2 months ago I did gold shows all day on a Sunday. I never hit my goal but I would still go into the show if I got at least 2 guys to tip in. Once in the show I got them to tip me more. I did that over and over and over. I actually made pretty good money doing that. But then that was it. I stopped doing them. I much prefer exclusives with kinksters and fetishist. So for the last 2 months every Sunday the same guys come along and peek at me and then leave the room. Peek...leave the room. They all have ones by their names but I didn't take notes on how I got money from them. I was so busy that day I didn't have time. Anyways my pimp juice was strong because 4 of them finally took me private but for like 2 and 3 min shows. They're cheapos and they couldn't help themselves. They had to take me private. So hopefully going forward they'll save up for a real show with me. That was a rambling mess LOL

lifetravelergirl
05-10-2015, 09:57 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked but can I still ban custies on Streamate? Did they change it?

shysara79
05-11-2015, 12:28 AM
Nine hours on SM the past two days and I feel like I worked 60 + hours in one week at a vanilla job! And some people call this easy money .... They have no clue !

JessRyan
05-11-2015, 11:45 AM
yes, you can ban guys on SM. I've even had support ban the ones I'm not fast enough to ban

Marina Starr
05-11-2015, 11:52 AM
Some people don't even consider what we do a job. They think we're just a bunch of nymphomaniacs with no morals, no education and no lives.
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Nine hours on SM the past two days and I feel like I worked 60 + hours in one week at a vanilla job! And some people call this easy money .... They have no clue !

SweetieBitch
05-11-2015, 08:14 PM
Gold shows are like begging for money....These shows cater to freeloaders and cheap asses.

This is why I start gold show countdowns with a clear verbal disclaimer -- if my chatroom wants a discounted show from me, it's up to them to make it happen. I'm not going to hustle, and I refuse to beg for them to spend literally ten times less than what my per minute rate would cost for the same duration. I usually have at least a few regulars who throw in high tips for gold shows, so generally I won't start a countdown if I don't already have a reg in the room to get things rolling. Plus the regs are also like my cheerleaders, encouraging everyone else to sacrifice their lunch once this week and just pay up for a measly $5 show.

I used to hate gold shows but lately they've been a fun way to bring traffic and new custies.

PeterPan
05-11-2015, 09:29 PM
Why Do Most Prices End in .99?

http://www.livescience.com/33045-why-do-most-prices-end-in-99-cents-.html
http://www.allbusiness.com/why-99-is-the-magic-number-for-product-pricing-16745938-1.html
http://conversionxl.com/pricing-experiments-you-might-not-know-but-can-learn-from/


For those who are struggling with rates (and anyone who is curious), I thought I'd share these few articles that explain pricing strategies. Learned about this in economics.
When you choose a rate to charge, be sure to end it with .99 e.g. $5.99, not $5.50, $5.80, etc. for optimum profit... according to economics. :)