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Snowy0Star
02-01-2013, 08:14 PM
OMG Don't turn exclusive OFF!!! Raise your prices sky high instead.

If you turn it off, no one can use it, no matter how much they want to.

If you make your exclusive rate $25 a minute, you never know when you will get some guy who will pay ANYTHING to have you all to himself...it's like the girls on NF who never log off, but just raise the rate to $50 per minute when they don't want to take calls. No matter how much you hate it, at some point, the money is worth it.

i thuoght the max u can go on sm was $15 0.0

ManyRoses
02-01-2013, 08:19 PM
^^^ E-mail them and ask! I doubt that they are going to say no.

Snowy0Star
02-02-2013, 01:13 AM
Im on the fence about posting pix up on my profile. I read in one of the first pages in this thread that you shouldnt put pix up on ur profile because guys jack off to them. But I'm wondering if I should so when guys ask for flashes I can tell them to look at my profile pix or take me pvt if they want to see what i took like standing or my ass etc.

PrincessLuna
02-02-2013, 02:02 AM
Im on the fence about posting pix up on my profile. I read in one of the first pages in this thread that you shouldnt put pix up on ur profile because guys jack off to them. But I'm wondering if I should so when guys ask for flashes I can tell them to look at my profile pix or take me pvt if they want to see what i took like standing or my ass etc.

I just have one photo that is also my default pic. I get asked all the time why I don't have more photos and I always reply "Because why look at lame ass stills when you can have actual interactive fun??" I personally don't ever take requests in freechat. I don't show anything for tips, I don't show ass, feet, anything. But that's what works for me and it took awhile of experimentation to get there.

Snowy0Star
02-02-2013, 02:09 AM
I know when i go back at it pretty soon im going to stop doing that - taking gold for flashes . thax for ur insite and sharing what works for u luna

PrincessLuna
02-02-2013, 02:11 AM
Just try everything out! But also give everything a chase to fail or become something that works.

TheBrownFox
02-02-2013, 06:12 AM
Oh, shit!!! I just checked my e-mail, and Liz actually did approve me for Gold shows! Yay! Thanks, ladies, for encouraging me to e-mail SM! :)

TheBrownFox
02-02-2013, 09:39 AM
Just out of curiosity...do you think enough guys would pay to see a bubble bath/shower GOLD show where the model is wearing a shower cap on her head the whole time, or no? LOL. What if it was a chocolate syrup/whipped cream shower show?

Halliwell
02-02-2013, 11:22 AM
make it a sexy bling shower cap lol then it will be cute at least


Just out of curiosity...do you think enough guys would pay to see a bubble bath/shower GOLD show where the model is wearing a shower cap on her head the whole time, or no? LOL. What if it was a chocolate syrup/whipped cream shower show?

VoluptiousBriadda
02-02-2013, 12:36 PM
yall know i normally never rant but i do feel the need to just let this out for a sec

I made a custy acct with SM yest finally,and it asked me if i wanted to be set up with their free erotic dating service site as well.i clicked no,i MADE SURE i opted out of all that crap.but what do i see in my inbox this morning? like 4 of their dating service emails,with "friend requests" from models etc.(and OF COURSE,it showed the models pics AND vids)

That really didnt piss me off too badly,what pissed me off was the the 3rd email,which wasnt a friend request but rather a MEET request.yuuup, it looked like a friend request but instead it was a request to meet in person for "fun".Id screenshot it but Im super busy today and dont really have time to edit out the model's pic on there.I knew they were doing the whole dating sites and bots thing,which is infuriating in itself,but i signed a contract and I was aware of the risks when i signed it.but this still pisses me off nonetheless,no wonder so many guys ask to meet up and then are furious when i act like theyre outta their fucking minds.

SMDH...

Cam_Model_Jess
02-02-2013, 01:25 PM
That is absolutely unacceptable. They're LYING to customers on our behalf? That's insane & makes me angry. Are these SM models this company is saying will meet up with customers? I mean, maybe it's just another shady "affiliate", but if it's SM doing it, that's lame.

VoluptiousBriadda
02-02-2013, 06:32 PM
That is absolutely unacceptable. They're LYING to customers on our behalf? That's insane & makes me angry. Are these SM models this company is saying will meet up with customers? I mean, maybe it's just another shady "affiliate", but if it's SM doing it, that's lame.

Im sure it was just another asshat affiliate,the thing that really pissed me off was that it asked me when i signed up (through SM main site of course) if i wanted to make a free dating profile through them as well.i checked no,went back and double checked to make sure i was completely opted out of it etc yet they went ahead and did it anyways,made a freakin profile for me and everything.Of course,all of the "info" on my profile was total bullshit but still,thats besides the point.(and of course,im even more irate about the meet up requests)

Yes it was SM models,they even had a meet in person TAB,where any models that have sent you a meet request go.fucking ridiculous. It was obviously another affiliate but i guess it just irked me that SM is offering this when you sign up,and then making an account for you even if you ask them not to.and theres no way to cancel it! you stay a "basic" member if you want to cancel.say huh??? I guess it makes me feel like even though theyre an affiliate,the fact that SM is asking if i want this service and then signing me up for it regardless,makes me feel like theyre "tied" to SM more than some of the other 3 million white labels out there...

PrincessLuna
02-02-2013, 06:50 PM
Do you see this within the streamate page? Or is it like a separate website?

loveshooks
02-02-2013, 07:14 PM
^^^when I created an sm customer account for verifications I got signed up to a dating site as well. It wasn't on sm, it was a separate site, can't recall the name...City-something, I think*

at the time I didn't really know anything about sm so I didn't immediately recognize any of the chicas profiled there. Cuz I don't use credit cards I has used my guy's plastic and info to make the account, when I saw the dating site email in the account the day after I had signed up to sm, at first I thought HE had created a profile on a dating site. I was like...ummm, wtf is this? He had no idea, so we went through the site togther and I recognized a chica who used the same avatar pic here as she did on sm. From there we compared the dating profiles to sm and yep, identical.

Funny moment looking back, he was worried I thought he was cheating so he was trying to get me to look through his browsing history to 'prove' he had nothing to do with it. It was cute.

Still, crappy for y'all who have to deal with 'date traffic' while you're working

*edit: since I signed up directly through sm this program clearly has the blessing of sm (ie: it's not the practise of a rogue affiliate or white label)

Snowy0Star
02-02-2013, 08:02 PM
Wowzers now i get why so many guys come into my room with the "Where u live" "i just wanna talk" and or "get to know u" bs
Thanks for sharing that.
So basically SM has a fake dating site to try and trick custies into thinking they''ll get to met us IRL but whats the point of that?

sammii
02-02-2013, 08:15 PM
^ Yup, yesterday I had two guys who seemed really confused when I told them I don't meet people from Streamate.

xxtinamariexx
02-02-2013, 09:39 PM
Here is the copy of the email I got after signing up with SM directly with their site...

MndOvaMatterGrl has sent you a request to meet in person
Inbox
x
[email protected]

10/6/12

to me
Images are not displayed. Display images below - Always display images from [email protected]

We just might have a match for you!
MndOvaMatterGrl has a pending request to meet in person. Take action now!
Profile Headline: I crave romance.
Interests include:

1-on-1 Encounter, Cybersex, Sadism & Masochism, 3-some/Orgies, Bondage & Domination, Fetishes, Other Activity

THen I got this one:
am1dream1ng wants to meet you in person
Inbox
x
[email protected]

10/6/12

to me
Images are not displayed. Display images below - Always display images from [email protected]

We just might have a match for you!
am1dream1ng has a pending request to meet in person. Take action now!
Profile Headline: I want the real thing.
Interests include:

1-on-1 Encounter, Cybersex, Sadism & Masochism, 3-some/Orgies, Bondage & Domination, Fetishes, Other Activity

Snowy0Star
02-02-2013, 09:41 PM
0.0 .....
Wow notice how both girls have the SAME EMAIL.
Are guys really this dumb and thinking with the mini-head that they fail to realize this?

PrincessLuna
02-02-2013, 10:08 PM
They're system emails and not suppose to look like they're from the girls. I've come across this site before actually. I just joined to look around and yeah, I recognized several of the girls on there.

VoluptiousBriadda
02-02-2013, 10:56 PM
^^^when I created an sm customer account for verifications I got signed up to a dating site as well. It wasn't on sm, it was a separate site, can't recall the name...City-something, I think*

at the time I didn't really know anything about sm so I didn't immediately recognize any of the chicas profiled there. Cuz I don't use credit cards I has used my guy's plastic and info to make the account, when I saw the dating site email in the account the day after I had signed up to sm, at first I thought HE had created a profile on a dating site. I was like...ummm, wtf is this? He had no idea, so we went through the site togther and I recognized a chica who used the same avatar pic here as she did on sm. From there we compared the dating profiles to sm and yep, identical.

Funny moment looking back, he was worried I thought he was cheating so he was trying to get me to look through his browsing history to 'prove' he had nothing to do with it. It was cute.

Still, crappy for y'all who have to deal with 'date traffic' while you're working

*edit: since I signed up directly through sm this program clearly has the blessing of sm (ie: it's not the practise of a rogue affiliate or white label)

^^ EXACTLY,you summed up what i was trying to say,just much more eloquently lol

VoluptiousBriadda
02-02-2013, 11:09 PM
They're system emails and not suppose to look like they're from the girls. I've come across this site before actually. I just joined to look around and yeah, I recognized several of the girls on there.

My meet requests had a models profile,with her "friends",pictures AND videos,and they were definitely chicks from SM.It looked EXACTLY like it was from each model although obviously,like you said,its just automatically generated by the website.

Im sure there will be some ladies who roll their eyes and say " well,you were aware youd be signing over your soul pretty much when you signed that contract,so deal with it" but it still pissed me off nonetheless.

I just had to rant about it for a min- we all know there are bots and ladies hired out there specifically to pretend they are us to try and drive traffic to the site but the main reason i was so mad is bc like Loveshooks said,since this happened automatically and SM gave them my info even though i opted out of it,its like theyre giving their blessing to this affiliate,actually more than that really bc its not like theyre just looking the other way,its like theyre pretty much in collaboration with this white label.

I had heard of affiliate dating sites before,several models here have commented about them but i havent ever ran across something so blatantly promoted by SM that included meeting in person before! *shudder*

Marina Starr
02-03-2013, 07:45 AM
Should I go shopping or work today?! Is it usually busy or slow during a game?

ConnyLove
02-03-2013, 08:08 AM
Should I go shopping or work today?! Is it usually busy or slow during a game?
Well right now is slower than normal Sundays , so I bet it's gonna get worse later. I am gonna work until 2 or 3 pm EST then shopping .

Marina Starr
02-03-2013, 08:09 AM
Thanks love! I always hop on cam around 11:30AM on Sunday and work for a few hours. I'm still gonna go on but if it's too slow then I'll log off to go shopping :)

Well right now is slower than normal Sundays , so I bet it's gonna get worse later. I am gonna work until 2 or 3 pm EST then shopping .

Marina Starr
02-03-2013, 02:21 PM
SM is now a dating site?! Some new custies told me today they found me through a dating site, LMFAO!

ConnyLove
02-03-2013, 03:22 PM
SM is now a dating site?! Some new custies told me today they found me through a dating site, LMFAO!

I really can't understand that marketing strategy. Guys will be pissed off once they find out that we are "material girls" and we are not looking for Mr. Right, and for us is annoying not just the fact that we will have to deal with more assholes but also that SM is "using" our profiles to other kind of business not related to camming.

TheBrownFox
02-03-2013, 05:55 PM
I just did like 3 or 4 attempts at an $8 for 8 minute Gold show, and it didn't happen because the only person who contributed was one of my regulars. Oh, and some guy had the nerve to say to me "$8? Those are pretty high stakes." *rolls eyes* Please...you probably spent 10 times that amount at Game Stop today...lol. Would you rather pay my exclusive rate of $5.99/minute, jizzbag?

I know a lot of guys are used to paying 50 cents per minute and less for Gold shows, which is fine too. But really...ANY Gold show is a bargain compared to our rates for exclusive/premium. So anyone who complains about a $1 per minute Gold show is a moron.

I could see myself maybe doing a 5 minute toy show with a minimum buy-in of $5 Gold (I'm sticking to $1 per minute pricing on Gold shows). Then some buttmuncher is gonna be like "But 5 minutes isn't enough time, bb!" Oh well. If the minutes go up, the minimum buy-in goes up! Don't like it? Go somewhere else. I am not mothafuckin Dollar Tree.

VoluptiousBriadda
02-03-2013, 06:03 PM
SM is now a dating site?! Some new custies told me today they found me through a dating site, LMFAO!

they may have found you through the dating site that was discussed on the last page and the top of this one :(
if you get anyone who claims that they found you through a dating site and that you sent them a friend or meet in person request,then youll know for sure they found you through that site.which actually really isnt their fault,bc SM signs new members up for that site even if they check the "no" box when it asks if you want to sign up for a dating profile as well.fucking ridiculous...

Marina Starr
02-03-2013, 06:09 PM
When you said, members, you mean custies right? Because I am not new on SM. I've worked on their for almost two years now. I've been getting a lot of guys asking me for my location and if I want to meet. I always tell them this is not Christianmingle.com.

they may have found you through the dating site that was discussed on the last page and the top of this one :(
if you get anyone who claims that they found you through a dating site and that you sent them a friend or meet in person request,then youll know for sure they found you through that site.which actually really isnt their fault,bc SM signs new members up for that site even if they check the "no" box when it asks if you want to sign up for a dating profile as well.fucking ridiculous...

Marina Starr
02-03-2013, 06:12 PM
Girl, for those cheap ass fuckers, even 50 cents would be too much. That's why I murder and ban them.

I just did like 3 or 4 attempts at an $8 for 8 minute Gold show, and it didn't happen because the only person who contributed was one of my regulars. Oh, and some guy had the nerve to say to me "$8? Those are pretty high stakes." *rolls eyes* Please...you probably spent 10 times that amount at Game Stop today...lol. Would you rather pay my exclusive rate of $5.99/minute, jizzbag?

I know a lot of guys are used to paying 50 cents per minute and less for Gold shows, which is fine too. But really...ANY Gold show is a bargain compared to our rates for exclusive/premium. So anyone who complains about a $1 per minute Gold show is a moron.

I could see myself maybe doing a 5 minute toy show with a minimum buy-in of $5 Gold (I'm sticking to $1 per minute pricing on Gold shows). Then some buttmuncher is gonna be like "But 5 minute isn't enough time, bb!" Oh well. If the minutes go up, the minimum buy-in goes up! Don't like it? Go somewhere else. I am not mothafuckin Dollar Tree.

Missbeth
02-03-2013, 10:12 PM
Girl, for those cheap ass fuckers, even 50 cents would be too much. That's why I murder and ban them.

Exactly its like the guys who are like "$3 for 6 min is too much bb, do a $1 for 10 min bb plz" or the all too better "take off your top bb you'll make goal fast bb"
Ughhhh

I was doing my standard $5 for 6 min show earlier today and had a guy ask what he got for joinin the show.... I chewed him a new one... Wtf does he want 5 extra videos plus the show for $1.75 my cut... I don't think so.
This is why i don't usually do gold shows... They can pay the $5.99/$9.99 all day long...lol

TheBrownFox
02-03-2013, 10:35 PM
Exactly its like the guys who are like "$3 for 6 min is too much bb, do a $1 for 10 min bb plz" or the all too better "take off your top bb you'll make goal fast bb"
Ughhhh

I was doing my standard $5 for 6 min show earlier today and had a guy ask what he got for joinin the show.... I chewed him a new one... Wtf does he want 5 extra videos plus the show for $1.75 my cut... I don't think so.
This is why i don't usually do gold shows... They can pay the $5.99/$9.99 all day long...lol

Yes! HAHA.

One thing about Gold shows...even though it's cool that it makes your room fill up with guys, I'm pretty sure a lot of those guys are just sitting there HOPING you'll get topless at the halfway point. They're not fooling me one bit, and I'm sure that's what some of the guys in my room were doing earlier...waiting around to see if my tits will come out yet. I've seen some of the same guys jumping in and out my room like they're just checking back to see if I'm topless yet. I'm sure y'all see it a lot in other rooms too. Guys not even chipping in will ask the model "Tits out halfway?"

Classy_Katy
02-04-2013, 12:18 AM
Quickie questions....do you girls watermark your profile pics? and do you use the same profile pics on different camsites?

PrincessLuna
02-04-2013, 12:20 AM
I don't believe you can watermark your photos because legally SM owns them once you upload them. If anything, they'd just deny their upload.

Classy_Katy
02-04-2013, 04:18 AM
Thanks Luna...I better make some fresh ones.

VoluptiousBriadda
02-04-2013, 10:00 AM
Marina, you're right,I def meant customer acct, sorry for any confusion guys!

And I was under the impression you can watermark on SM as long as its just your name.I can't remember which thread this was just discussed in, but a bunch of people weighed in on this topic, again, and I thought the general consensus was that if you watermark, should only use your name bc even putting yourname.cammodels.com could get you in trouble

PrincessLuna
02-04-2013, 10:02 AM
And I was under the impression you can watermark on SM as long as its just your name.I can't remember which thread this was just discussed in, but a bunch of people weighed in on this topic, again, and I thought the general consensus was that if you watermark, should only use your name bc even putting yourname.cammodels.com could get you in trouble

I'd save two copies of the photo, one with and without the watermark. I mean, the worst that happens is they won't approve the upload so it's worth a shot.

catgirl
02-04-2013, 10:12 AM
Yea you can watermark your photos, lots of models put their cam nam on their photo (look on the main page).

PrincessLuna
02-04-2013, 10:17 AM
Ah, I think I'm on a different page than y'all. I read "watermark" and I see "copyright", not just a fun edit with the performer's name in the image. I see that every where.

CarmenF
02-04-2013, 11:02 AM
QUESTION: does SM offer a 30% payout to all european models? I have some italian friends that would like to join. Would DP cost 5% off that? I tried reading in this thread but it said nothing about that country. Thanks ladies.

Snowy0Star
02-04-2013, 11:24 AM
that does sound about right so they would get in total %25 of their minute rate

CarmenF
02-04-2013, 12:10 PM
Thank you. I also can't find info about the payment methods... What are they?

Snowy0Star
02-04-2013, 12:13 PM
The ones i know of are
payoneer
checks
direct despoit

and there might be more but i dont know them i use payoneer

Missbeth
02-04-2013, 12:14 PM
QUESTION: does SM offer a 30% payout to all european models? I have some italian friends that would like to join. Would DP cost 5% off that? I tried reading in this thread but it said nothing about that country. Thanks ladies.

Streamate offers 35% to all models unless you go through a studio....
Some girls in eastern European countries have to go through a studio...but I'm not sure which countries this applies to.

CarmenF
02-04-2013, 12:30 PM
Thank you girls!!!

VoluptiousBriadda
02-04-2013, 01:10 PM
The ones i know of are
payoneer
checks
direct despoit

and there might be more but i dont know them i use payoneer

and i think wire transfer-for a $40 fee? dont quote me on that fee price lol

Carmen-were you asking about SM's payment methods or DP's payment methods?

Kayden
02-04-2013, 01:19 PM
Streamate offers 35% to all models unless you go through a studio....
Some girls in eastern European countries have to go through a studio...but I'm not sure which countries this applies to.

I'm 99% positive that does NOT apply to Italy = Italian nationals get 35% of gross sales.

With DP they would get 30% of gross.

CarmenF
02-04-2013, 01:24 PM
and i think wire transfer-for a $40 fee? dont quote me on that fee price lol

Carmen-were you asking about SM's payment methods or DP's payment methods?

SM! I read DP uses payoneer and that shouldn't be a problem for my friends. I know wire transfer is 40/45$ for C4S so it should be around that.
Thanks :)

CarmenF
02-04-2013, 01:24 PM
I'm 99% positive that does NOT apply to Italy = Italian nationals get 35% of gross sales.

With DP they would get 30% of gross.
Awesome I'll tell them to look into it

TheBrownFox
02-04-2013, 01:55 PM
I made 3 - 4 Gold show attempts ($5 Gold for 5 mins with a $69 goal), and only one guy put in for the show. And that guy was like "Show tits bb" as soon as he put in the 5 Gold. *facepalm*

Lovely start of the week.....Now I'm gonna have to hop back on again in the afternoon so I can make something in time to meet the daily pay cutoff.