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webcamcutie
08-22-2015, 05:18 PM
Sorry for the 100 posts guys in a row, just finished a 5 hour shift and finally got a chance to read all this, good luck to everyone in the upcoming week, I'm taking a break for a few hours! Hopefully it works well and is profitable for everyone!! :)

pippapippa
08-22-2015, 05:38 PM
I had a very slow day, but not too many complaints. By slow I mean heinously, unbearably slow from 4-8 EDT. I had several people tell me they were kicked out of my room, so there were still some minor glitches. But nothing major.

SweetieBitch
08-22-2015, 05:52 PM
anyone get the bonus yet? they havent wrote me back im getting anxious

Yes, many of us got it... What days have you worked? The only bonus that would have shown up at this point is from Friday the 21st (which is in the GMT time zone -- so if you're in the US that's part of Thursday through Friday.) It is applied to today's/Saturday's earnings and is listed as GOLD from "StreamateBonus".

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-22-2015, 06:05 PM
I SERIOUSLY thought I was the ONLY one that noticed this! I went for surgery at the end of May and prior to that It was booming! I was ALWAYS IN pvt nonstop and only had to work 2-3 hours a day and 15 hours a week to complete my goals, I thought taking so much time off during surgery and the summer that is why my traffic was lower but it makes complete sense! Atleast 40% of my traffic comes from mobile clients (its the way of the future, obviously) and most of the time it doesn't even work right so its really hurting us because they can't get mobile to function like it should! Now I'm having to work double the amount of hours for the same amount, sure its still decent money but I thought it was just me noticing that since the end of May its gone downhill. Prior to that it was busy like that for me for a year and a half, constantly in pvt, being able to have a life and not having to work over 20 hours a week. This past month has been even worse now that I'm getting back into putting more than 15-20 hours online a week. Oy, this is nuts, I wish they'd just get a decent mobile platform and fix the issues with cams loading and stuff... frustrating, grr.

I expect summer months to slow down. It does everywhere. Been doing this for awhile now. But May is when I noticed a major decline and started seeing gliches. It took me a moment to put it all together. But if guys are not speaking to you or say Hi, How are you? whatever and then leave the room...its because your room hasn't loaded on the mobile site. I have gotten into the habit of speaking and typing at the same time. Most guys will see my greeting but not my stream. They leave. Others will respond with hi etc or hey what do you look like? And then I'm like what? Huh what do you mean? You've been in my room for several minutes. Turns out they were just texting and waiting for my room to load. It's been going on for months. And I've watched my placement drop and other girls go up. Guys will tell me that they can see the rooms of other girls, but mine and a few others give them issues. I've tested this out for a minute now. This is not new to me. Some girls will load but then after a few minutes it freezes and says she is in a private. I am among the group that won't load.

Issabelle
08-22-2015, 06:29 PM
anyone get the bonus yet? they havent wrote me back im getting anxious

When was that last time you worked before yesterday love? They said that models had to be active prior to the 20th to receive the bonus, which I initially thought was just a nice way of saying 'new people can't sign up just to take this offer!' Maybe they meant you had to have worked in the last week when the glitches were occurring though? I know you've been away quite a bit since you've gone back to school. I'm really just throwing out guesses when I say that though, so wait until you hear back from them before you freak.

EllieGold
08-22-2015, 06:31 PM
Maybe you didn't meet cutoff is all Ginger? Its GMT time. But from what I saw, you were on page 1 yesterday so you should have met it. From what I know, I know Gingers been camming for years already.8)

EllieGold
08-22-2015, 06:33 PM
How's everyones evening going? Hope things are smoothing out. :)

Issabelle
08-22-2015, 06:33 PM
I expect summer months to slow down. It does everywhere. Been doing this for awhile now. But May is when I noticed a major decline and started seeing gliches. It took me a moment to put it all together. But if guys are not speaking to you or say Hi, How are you? whatever and then leave the room...its because your room hasn't loaded on the mobile site. I have gotten into the habit of speaking and typing at the same time. Most guys will see my greeting but not my stream. They leave. Others will respond with hi etc or hey what do you look like? And then I'm like what? Huh what do you mean? You've been in my room for several minutes. Turns out they were just texting and waiting for my room to load. It's been going on for months. And I've watched my placement drop and other girls go up. Guys will tell me that they can see the rooms of other girls, but mine and a few others give them issues. I've tested this out for a minute now. This is not new to me. Some girls will load but then after a few minutes it freezes and says she is in a private. I am among the group that won't load.

I'm really familiar with the mobile issues myself. I've checked myself on my phone dozens of times and my stream will load. It just freezes and stops after 10 seconds (sometimes less). I don't have a particularly 'fancy' phone, but it is an android, so that was obnoxious. That said, up until about 1-2 weeks ago, my hourly had been consistently going up and I haven't done much to make that happen outside of working more hours to boost my placement to the top few rows of page one instead of just the top half of it. The last week is when I really hit issues and saw a noticeable drop in my hourly rate. So, either I have virtually no mobile customers (which is completely possible) or it's something else that caused the decline earlier this summer for you girls. I honestly couldn't say, but I wanted to chime in on the off chance it's helpful.

doublerainbow
08-22-2015, 06:40 PM
I am among the group that won't load.

I've been there ever since starting back into camming a few months ago too, what all my complaining has been about. It seemed to stop for about a month a while ago and I got a taste of what all the other girls are talking about, back to back privates and easy money compared to what I was used to. Now it's back to the slow drag.... just hoping since more models are experiencing it, they might finally fix it for EVERYONE.

SweetieBitch
08-22-2015, 06:55 PM
They said that models had to be active prior to the 20th to receive the bonus, which I initially thought was just a nice way of saying 'new people can't sign up just to take this offer!' Maybe they meant you had to have worked in the last week when the glitches were occurring though?

No, I'm almost certain it just means you needed an active account before the 20th. I took a week off from 8/12 through 8/19, which seemed to be when the glitches were at their worst. I got back on 8/20 (which was the 21st in their time zone) and I still got the bonus.

xxDarling
08-22-2015, 06:55 PM
Hello ladies!
I have been lurking this thread for a few weeks now. I am brand new to camming and just got approved today to start streaming on sm-- right after I woke up bleeding profusely! :( Rotten timing. I was curious as to how long I'll have 'new girl' status (is being out of action my first week going to hurt me?), if you had any motivation to offer for my very first shows (I'm nervous!), if you think we're finally seeing a light at the end of the tunnel in terms of site maintenance, and any other insights you might have etc <3.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-22-2015, 06:56 PM
I'm pretty sure its because of the mobile issues that everything tanked for me. I am a professional camgirl. I know what needs to occur to make money and I am not afraid of change. I appreciate any input, I do. But I'm over it and done with being pissed off. These last few months have been a complete mindfuck for me. So I'm glad to let it all go cuz I'm a competitive person. However due to these issues I feel as though I haven't even been invited to compete in the event,ya know? And I work a lot of hours. But it's all good now. I'm ready to refocus and get back to making the money that I'm used to. Somewhere else of course.

CurvyAriel
08-22-2015, 07:32 PM
Last night & this afternoon, regulars tried to take me exclusive. I would except, and they never showed up in private. Then they would come in & out of free chat at least 10 times. Its getting old. At times, I would look at the top models rooms, see 100 plus people in there, 500 plus gold shows, and be so motivated. Its just not like that anymore.

IvyAdams
08-22-2015, 08:03 PM
So tonight wasn't bad on my end glitch wise. I had one exclusive around 5pm disconnect but other than that I had no complaints. I checked my feed on mobile and noticed it would say I was in private until I refreshed the page. (Ugh, frustrating.) I'm so happy that the glitches were at a minimum tonight, even though it was so horribly slow.. like "I feel crazy sitting in an empty room when I'm in the top 2 rows but I'm going to keep smiling at nothing like an insane person" slow. Somehow I still managed to pull in $400 so there IS hope ladies. Hopefully this week will be smoother!

Issabelle
08-22-2015, 08:21 PM
Yes. i work almost every night and not a new model. I just got done talking to liz and she said this :)

Actually it will show up as a line in your earnings as gold from the user "StreamateBonus" the bonus will be for the previous day's earnings. So it will be part of the total for the day.

Thanks!

Glad to hear it. I was reading your post to mean you hadn't gotten paid the bonus for work on 8/21, hence my speculation; just appears you didn't work the 21st by SMs calendar. When it comes to 'bonus' perks, I've never had a boss who didn't try to screw people out of it and save themselves the money. Glad it didn't happen to you girl! Enjoy the well-earned cash. :)

Issabelle
08-22-2015, 08:24 PM
I'm pretty sure its because of the mobile issues that everything tanked for me. I am a professional camgirl. I know what needs to occur to make money and I am not afraid of change. I appreciate any input, I do. But I'm over it and done with being pissed off. These last few months have been a complete mindfuck for me. So I'm glad to let it all go cuz I'm a competitive person. However due to these issues I feel as though I haven't even been invited to compete in the event,ya know? And I work a lot of hours. But it's all good now. I'm ready to refocus and get back to making the money that I'm used to. Somewhere else of course.

Glad you haven't let this BS get you down girl, because you are fantastic on cam and you don't deserve this crap. None of us do. It just blows when a site that used to be so good goes so bad. I'll send good vibes your way for finding a site that pays your fabulous ass every cent it deserves!

princessivy
08-22-2015, 09:12 PM
42372

I think all the actual paying customers have left. The past hour it's been ONLY these guys. I'm about to rip my hair out holy crap, I can't handle freeloaders.

RaeRae
08-22-2015, 09:14 PM
SM, please kiss my glorious ass for being full of it concerning fixing the glitches. I've had multiple guys not be able to take me private and guys unable to get my cam to load even though I'm looking great when I check myself.

JennyCouture
08-22-2015, 09:15 PM
speaking of has anyone acually gotten your bonus?

AvaLove
08-22-2015, 09:44 PM
Hello ladies!
I have been lurking this thread for a few weeks now. I am brand new to camming and just got approved today to start streaming on sm-- right after I woke up bleeding profusely! :( Rotten timing. I was curious as to how long I'll have 'new girl' status (is being out of action my first week going to hurt me?), if you had any motivation to offer for my very first shows (I'm nervous!), if you think we're finally seeing a light at the end of the tunnel in terms of site maintenance, and any other insights you might have etc <3.
I believe it last for about a week. Be careful since you are new, guys are going to send fake tips and say things like "if you flash, I'll take you private."

Prussia
08-22-2015, 09:51 PM
I worked last night, and made ~$100 my cut before the time cut off for that daily earning. So I'm suppose to get $20, correct? Because my StreamateBonus says "$25.62 N/A $8.97". WTF?

NervousBeaver
08-22-2015, 09:52 PM
So I logged on tonight and I was pretty sure I would make nothing. When I first logged on it took 6 minutes before I had a person in my room. Then it was pretty much crickets and occasionnal people-who-just-want-to-talk into my room. But I manage to do 3 shows and I made 109$ in 3 hours and a half (before bonus)... better than I expected. When my bf looked I was lower half of the first page (59th spot). I thought I was done with SM but now I think I will give the site another chance.

IvyAdams
08-22-2015, 09:55 PM
speaking of has anyone acually gotten your bonus?
I got the bonus from yesterdays money around 5ish today. Everything from today Before cut off at 8pm I'm expecting tomorrow around the same time.

P.s.-totally creeped on yo sexy ass tonight. Our hair was pretty much identical! Color,pigtails and all :) great minds and all that.

Prussia
08-22-2015, 10:18 PM
42372

I think all the actual paying customers have left. The past hour it's been ONLY these guys. I'm about to rip my hair out holy crap, I can't handle freeloaders.

I had that loser in my room as well tonight. I told him to tip as my topic says and he said I was ridiculous and left in a huff. Hahahahaha!

SweetieBitch
08-22-2015, 10:27 PM
Ugh where are my regs? So many new people just sitting and staring... honestly I'd rather have talkative freeloading douchebags so I at least have something to respond to. Virtual awkward silence is awkward.

sweetgapeach
08-22-2015, 11:17 PM
My Dearest Streamate,

I realize you must be sick of my complaints, and I wish I could stop with my reasonings for them, but I can't. Don't you realize that almost four years ago I decided to be a faithful wife to you? I have loved you and been just as faithful. Yes, sure I made that MFC acct, but I swear...I never used it. You always offered me enough. We graduated a child together, we upgraded our house together, we upgraded our ride together, things were great! But lately, you can't even help me with the bills. And that is sad and frustrating and awfully depressing. I have stood up and lost so called friends and family members because of my love and devotion to you and what we stand for. And I realize that the 20% bonus is a temporary step in the right direction..but I honestly would just prefer my 100 bucks a day that I set out for. I never try to be greedy. Sure you gave me that one $400 day last year, that one $300 day this year...but what about all the months in between? A girl needs 100 dollars a day---minimum.

The girls say branch out, get more eggs...but I liked my one egg in my basket....I love YOU!! YOUR style, your boys, your potential. Don't you realize that I am soo close to another account somewhere else, a job with that bachelor's degree you helped me obtain, a factory job somewhere...something?? I dont want to branch out. Honestly, I need you. I need to know that I can still make it to gymnastics for the little one twice a week, and to take the teenager back and forth to work...I need that freedom that you presented me. I give you 65%, I give you my loyalty, I give you my devotion, I even give you at least seven days a month without seeing my face (no man gets to say that dont have to deal with the wife on shark week, except you).

Please, please get back right. Fall is just about here. The kids have been in school two and a half weeks now...we should be THRU with August's bills, knocking out Sept already...you do remember Christmas is coming right? Don't force all your mamas elsewhere....PLEASE!!

One of your many nagging wives,

Rebecca_Jo <----send me some traffic when I log back on PLEASE...

EllieGold
08-22-2015, 11:40 PM
It's great some girls are doing wonderful but since this bonus started my hourly has dropped so low I can't afford it anymore. I used to make enough daily to get by (not enough but still..) and now its pennies. Literally. I have traffic, just no one wants to pay. The site is 95% freeloaders and this might just be the end for a lot of models such as myself. Yea sure there's models doing wonderful on there but as the saying goes. Richer get rich and poorer get poor.:O Now back to camming so I can try to make something before I log off and weep.

Kitcatt
08-23-2015, 01:14 AM
I had a horribly shitty night last night, but FUCK tonight rocked. I have to say though, the amount of models online dipped by about 500 from last night, so maybe that might have had a little something to do with it?

webcamcutie
08-23-2015, 01:16 AM
So as if things aren't bad enough I keep getting a slew of customers in my chat after I've finished a private and put my cam up to the ceiling while I'm getting dressed, and they're all talking about my show I just finished up to 3-4 minutes after the cam is lagging THAT bad.. what the hell is going on? I messaged support to tell them that there is a 3-4 minute delay and to ME I'm already done and my camera is UP while I'm getting dressed but they get to watch the end of my show in free chat? This is ridiculous! I guess I have to log off after every show I do just to clear the lag without the risk of someone seeing me diddling in free chat due to more tech issues, lovely. Too busy for all that sh&t right now.. damn!

webcamcutie
08-23-2015, 01:22 AM
I'm so beyond pissed and disgusted with what I just read with all those guys said that I logged off immediately and blasted support in an email and wrote to them on twitter. I don't even show my tits or ANYTHING in free chat for tips and now they are getting f&^%ing freebies because my cam is lagging because of a tech issue? SO UNCOOL!! so VERY VERY VERY uncool!

DancesWithSloths
08-23-2015, 02:21 AM
I am one of the rooms that will not load on mobile and all the other bs thats going on. Around the end of May is when I saw a difference. Contacted support. Was told it's on my end. Talked to other cammers and mostly "Mmmm I dont know what to tell you" I check their rooms and they show up just fine. "Hey have you tried positive thinking?" Riiiight my room doesn't load to over 50% of the traffic.

Not gonna lie, this gave me the healthy laugh I needed.

Positive thinking is all well and good, but sometimes you need damn engineers to do their jobs.

webcamcutie
08-23-2015, 02:26 AM
Whelp, after several tests and risking exposing myself to take screen caps and creeping on my own room after I turned away 6 guests in premium chat at once because the lag was so bad, I'm going to bed defeated. I had my camera pointed to the wall and watched myself in free chat typing with my tits out.. I'm beyond upset about this, busy night and I can't work because my camera has a 2-4 minute delay from what I'm showing to them and what they are seeing. I feel like curling up in the fetal position and crying right now. Thanks for making the first day of my paycheck rotten SM and it was hugely profitable. I'm over this right now. All this time and effort and hours and lack of sleep to have to deal with this has me fuming mad.

And if you guys could actually read my emails I've been sending in about this and the gold club issue (still members joining at the wrong price and hasn't been fixed and its over 48 hours now!!!) and reply to me that would be freaking fabulous, having to wait over 2 days for a response is just absurd!!

ArtsyScarlett
08-23-2015, 03:32 AM
SM is malfunctioning for a longer time now but not everyone was affected, i think what we experience now is a domino effect that reached top performers too, many of us including myself were hit longer time ago but as others were not affected our voices were not heard or people believed it's our fault.
Now when SM site crashes massively people understand what is going on actually.
Yeah, i am 1st page myself bottom rows sometimes higher on main page & 1st row on regional page & there is no traffic in my room like it used to be & my members get cut off or cant connect or it shows i am in pvt when i am not or old regulars say they did not see me online for ages and is doing this for months not just recently like for many of u guys. Look, i am real here not a pretender, i dont sell in here, no links to my cam room or social media, i say what i experience, i dont wanna impress anyone, i am just real, IT'S HAPPENING FOR MONTHS for a lot of us.

I am not a veteran but I am on the front page. Glitches are something that I have come to consider a part of using SM, I essentially factored them into any calculations or projections I made for how well I would do. I also complain loudly and publicly if they are more than I consider acceptable, feel free to check my post history and twitter. I am not afraid of voicing my issues with SM and neither are other performers, this recent spate of issues isn't because "top" models are only just being hit it is because the volume of issues has dramatically increased.

Issues can be accepted and even expected but this is not just a case of the problems that "lower" ranked models have been experiencing have filtered to the "top" it is a sitewide increase of bad experiences. "Lower" ranked models would always have been hard hit than "higher" models as the traffic is lower, e.g. If 1 in 5 people have an issue a "top" model may not notice as having 15 people in your room means 12 are fine, however a "lower" ranked model may only have one at a time and they are the one having the issue... The ratio of issue is now higher e.g. 3 in 5 having issues which creates an environment where everyone has issues as over 50% of customers are having problems.

I'm not sure what you meant by "i am not a pretender" but as far as I can see there is no KatM on SM, you don't sell links or add your twitter as you chose anonymity... This is the second time in recent posts you have criticised other members of this community and it seems completely unnecessary. It's great that you are outspoken and forthright but judging others by your standards is as arrogant and fake as you believe talking about earnings and discussing success is on here....

Anyway back on topic.... SM still has issues and needs to sort it!

Halo88
08-23-2015, 05:08 AM
I'm pretty sure its because of the mobile issues that everything tanked for me. I am a professional camgirl. I know what needs to occur to make money and I am not afraid of change. I appreciate any input, I do. But I'm over it and done with being pissed off. These last few months have been a complete mindfuck for me. So I'm glad to let it all go cuz I'm a competitive person. However due to these issues I feel as though I haven't even been invited to compete in the event,ya know? And I work a lot of hours. But it's all good now. I'm ready to refocus and get back to making the money that I'm used to. Somewhere else of course.

Mobile will never be stable. The main reason is that most wireless companies throttle data on their customers. Even on wifi, those devices have low quality wifi hardware. Just because SM offers mobile, does not mean that we have to base our customers on it. Camming survived just fine for many years without mobile capabilities. The way I see it is, everyone owns a computer unless they live under a rock. Any guy who cannot privately get on a computer for a show, is not going to stay long anyway. Those mobile guys are just extra pocket money while waiting for the bigger spenders.

KatM
08-23-2015, 06:08 AM
I am not a veteran but I am on the front page. Glitches are something that I have come to consider a part of using SM, I essentially factored them into any calculations or projections I made for how well I would do. I also complain loudly and publicly if they are more than I consider acceptable, feel free to check my post history and twitter. I am not afraid of voicing my issues with SM and neither are other performers, this recent spate of issues isn't because "top" models are only just being hit it is because the volume of issues has dramatically increased.

Issues can be accepted and even expected but this is not just a case of the problems that "lower" ranked models have been experiencing have filtered to the "top" it is a sitewide increase of bad experiences. "Lower" ranked models would always have been hard hit than "higher" models as the traffic is lower, e.g. If 1 in 5 people have an issue a "top" model may not notice as having 15 people in your room means 12 are fine, however a "lower" ranked model may only have one at a time and they are the one having the issue... The ratio of issue is now higher e.g. 3 in 5 having issues which creates an environment where everyone has issues as over 50% of customers are having problems.

I'm not sure what you meant by "i am not a pretender" but as far as I can see there is no KatM on SM, you don't sell links or add your twitter as you chose anonymity... This is the second time in recent posts you have criticised other members of this community and it seems completely unnecessary. It's great that you are outspoken and forthright but judging others by your standards is as arrogant and fake as you believe talking about earnings and discussing success is on here....

Anyway back on topic.... SM still has issues and needs to sort it!

Great explanation of how system works, ty for posting that, it makes sense!
About not being a pretender, i mean in general, i dont pretend to be someone i am not, i say it in general, i could post anything & everything but i choose to post the truth as i see & feel it. I dont say others are pretenders, i say i could be but am not, that's why i choose anonymity, to be real & not conditioned by money factor like on cam, there i am a pretender LOL. That's what i mean, maybe it came out different cause i am not native in english.
All good, it was a misunderstanding, nothing with intention.

hyori
08-23-2015, 07:00 AM
I just wish guys with tablets would check off, "desktop site" in their browser settings. That would fix a few mobile guys using wifi.

fiatdc
08-23-2015, 07:15 AM
I am not a veteran but I am on the front page. Glitches are something that I have come to consider a part of using SM, I essentially factored them into any calculations or projections I made for how well I would do. I also complain loudly and publicly if they are more than I consider acceptable, feel free to check my post history and twitter. I am not afraid of voicing my issues with SM and neither are other performers, this recent spate of issues isn't because "top" models are only just being hit it is because the volume of issues has dramatically increased.

Thanks scarlett, you sound quite switched on, do you mind if I ask you how you understand the distribution of traffic on sm? The way I understood it was that sm might use your stream to display to guests before/whilst they sign up, but after that traffic is brought to the SITE not to specific models rooms? Members still only go to rooms that they pick.... But i've seen a few times models complaining that sm is directing traffic to other girls rooms but not theirs... i'm not getting it, i didn't think they did this and i don't know what those models expect either... it's not like a guy would click on one room and sm gives them a popup saying thanks for wanting to see this model, but we're going to send you to this other room instead???

It's obvious that some models will be getting more traffic than others, as well as placement there is the live preview that lets guys see your stream before they enter so ofc they are only going to enter the rooms they like, but i fail to see how sm is apparently being favourable in the way the distribute traffic.... am i missing something?

KatyBoleyn
08-23-2015, 09:22 AM
I don't believe they are. We ran our statistics very very hard (hubby spent all day yesterday compiling everything and cross-referencing everything he could). As far as "Averages" go, they haven't budged more than 10% margin of error from week to week for the last 8 months. In fact, last week was actually one of our highest for both time-in-paid and $/hour/model...and this is with a larger than normal amount of new and returning models starting and SM's admission of technical issues. The stats don't lie - when someone makes less money, someone else makes more and those averages stay rock solid. Also, I'm sure hubby would love to walk anyone through the "numbers porn" that contacts him on skype.

As Artsy was saying, building into your expectations that you will have some site issues helps immensely and keeps down the "snowball effect" where you get one issue, your expectations get lower, so subconsciously your hustle suffers and/or you work shorter shifts, rinse, repeat. The other side is that the SM tech requirements have changed as far as how that plays into placement, and we've noticed that some models with good tech (and that can make use of higher and higher settings) have received a big boost while others have gone down that haven't adapted as quickly. The market is becoming more saturated, and investing heavily and smartly into your hardware setup will help you stand out.

SM is, for the most part, fairly transparent when it comes to what goes into their placement matrix and has become more so lately. We've already established that "studio bumps just because" are a myth, studio "placement increases" being just a product of how some studios make their models work toward exactly what SM wants.

That being said, SM has made it easier for customers to bounce with even more selections in the similar models place to the side, as well as random switch-outs on the front page. The result of this is a much more fluid and rapid placement matrix which can appear to models as very ADHD customers and spiky room traffic. The net result is that most models do have a fairer chance and the matrix is less reliable on being an established model and more about how you're hustling that same day. The SM game changed a bit (not hugely, but it has changed) - everyone has to stay competitive and tenacious.

funismymiddlename
08-23-2015, 09:23 AM
im so pissed one of my regulars tried to do a 15 min block 4 times and everytime i accept it freezes both of us logged out and came back but it still didnt work. private is working just fine but wtf sm needs to get it together

SoloDesire
08-23-2015, 09:58 AM
I don't believe they are. We ran our statistics very very hard (hubby spent all day yesterday compiling everything and cross-referencing everything he could). As far as "Averages" go, they haven't budged more than 10% margin of error from week to week for the last 8 months. In fact, last week was actually one of our highest for both time-in-paid and $/hour/model...and this is with a larger than normal amount of new and returning models starting and SM's admission of technical issues. The stats don't lie - when someone makes less money, someone else makes more and those averages stay rock solid. Also, I'm sure hubby would love to walk anyone through the "numbers porn" that contacts him on skype.

As Artsy was saying, building into your expectations that you will have some site issues helps immensely and keeps down the "snowball effect" where you get one issue, your expectations get lower, so subconsciously your hustle suffers and/or you work shorter shifts, rinse, repeat. The other side is that the SM tech requirements have changed as far as how that plays into placement, and we've noticed that some models with good tech (and that can make use of higher and higher settings) have received a big boost while others have gone down that haven't adapted as quickly. The market is becoming more saturated, and investing heavily and smartly into your hardware setup will help you stand out.

SM is, for the most part, fairly transparent when it comes to what goes into their placement matrix and has become more so lately. We've already established that "studio bumps just because" are a myth, studio "placement increases" being just a product of how some studios make their models work toward exactly what SM wants.

That being said, SM has made it easier for customers to bounce with even more selections in the similar models place to the side, as well as random switch-outs on the front page. The result of this is a much more fluid and rapid placement matrix which can appear to models as very ADHD customers and spiky room traffic. The net result is that most models do have a fairer chance and the matrix is less reliable on being an established model and more about how you're hustling that same day. The SM game changed a bit (not hugely, but it has changed) - everyone has to stay competitive and tenacious.

I really needed to hear this. Thank you for posting!! Gonna work my ass off this week!

JGB2009
08-23-2015, 10:02 AM
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webcamcutie
08-23-2015, 10:15 AM
Ran a test on my room and viewed my cam with my laptop, computer, phone (on my mobile network) and iPad to see if the lag cleared and it appears to be gone, lets hope that evil monster never rears its head again, I was literally MORTIFIED last night. (I'll obsessively be checking my room while online in free chat from now on, lucky for me I have a lot of reg custies that chill with me on the daily and they let me know when it started to happen). SM I love you, please love me back today, I'm trying to make us tons of money so be good to me and stop with the crazy glitches! kthxbai.

doublerainbow
08-23-2015, 10:26 AM
Ung... new glitch hit 10 minutes into getting online, now SM won't let me set my topic. Greeaaat... and I checked on my phone, shows I'm in a private show. T_T

RamonaRamone
08-23-2015, 10:45 AM
I believe it last for about a week. Be careful since you are new, guys are going to send fake tips and say things like "if you flash, I'll take you private."

Actually I think it lasts 30 days from the first time you stream. Vanessa has a video on YouTube answering this specific question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuTG1m6EAEY

So it's probably not the end of the world if you wait?

xxDarling
08-23-2015, 10:53 AM
Actually I think it lasts 30 days from the first time you stream. Vanessa has a video on YouTube answering this specific question:

So it's probably not the end of the world if you wait?


That's such a relief, thank you. <3

It looks like everyone is still having trouble with the site, so maybe its a blessing in disguise. I am so sorry you ladies are dealing with this. :(

ArtsyScarlett
08-23-2015, 12:16 PM
Thanks scarlett, you sound quite switched on, do you mind if I ask you how you understand the distribution of traffic on sm? The way I understood it was that sm might use your stream to display to guests before/whilst they sign up, but after that traffic is brought to the SITE not to specific models rooms? Members still only go to rooms that they pick.... But i've seen a few times models complaining that sm is directing traffic to other girls rooms but not theirs... i'm not getting it, i didn't think they did this and i don't know what those models expect either... it's not like a guy would click on one room and sm gives them a popup saying thanks for wanting to see this model, but we're going to send you to this other room instead???

It's obvious that some models will be getting more traffic than others, as well as placement there is the live preview that lets guys see your stream before they enter so ofc they are only going to enter the rooms they like, but i fail to see how sm is apparently being favourable in the way the distribute traffic.... am i missing something?

Something discussed quite a lot on this forum is "placement". Streamate have an algorithm, maybe with some manual tweaks which many discuss as well, which determines who there most likely to be profitable models are based on data that we see in our "My Ranking" section on the admin page and likely a few more we don't know about.

The way I and I believe other determine "placement" or as I call it in my head "global placement" is by checking the site whilst not signed in. In web design a key factor in creating a page is the "above the fold" content, content which is seen immediately without the need for scrolling. Girls placed above the fold generally will have more traffic as users will see them first, the models above the fold are usually fairly diverse so there is usually one model that piques a users interest. From there they could go "down the rabbithole" clicking on the similar models links or they may return to the front page. I can tell you first hand, the difference in traffic between being above the fold and below it is noticeable. There is no doubt, and plenty of evidence in web design, that above the fold content is consumed and interacted with at a far greater rate than content that has to be scrolled to. This of course doesn't take into account users preference to search via categories etc.

As mentioned SM have been playing with their placement, including location based placement, and things may change in the future also bear in mind that a users favourites, ratings and spending will factor into their own front page once they log on.


tl;dr

Being high brings more traffic as more users see you instantly.

fiatdc
08-23-2015, 01:06 PM
^^^ yeah, i understand the placement and as far as i know that's the only way sm 'direct' traffic. in the past though i've seen models on the front page moaning that sm still sends traffic to other top models but not them. that's what i couldn't understand but it sounds like they are just moaning and seeking attention... you've confirmed that what i thought about sm placement and traffic was right, i'm grateful, i thought i was the one going crazy

laurielegs
08-23-2015, 01:28 PM
I just wish guys with tablets would check off, "desktop site" in their browser settings. That would fix a few mobile guys using wifi.

I wonder if this would fix issues with guys watching with their phone. When I use Chrome on my phone I can check "request desktop site".

pixiepower329
08-23-2015, 02:15 PM
Your pics aren't loading... so when you go into the part of your site that says "My Ranking".. where are your ratings low? I'm generally in the 1st or 2nd row of BBW, all of my rating scores are "Excellent" except sometimes my round trip drops and my hours are not yet high enough due to taking some serious time off.

audritwo
08-23-2015, 02:34 PM
Now that things look stable my ranking is sucking and makes NO SENSE. If anyone can help me I'll appreciate it, I already tried with every single setting I have (old recommended settings, new hd basic and recommended ones) If I check the encoder my fps (frame per second) is great but in my ranking sucks. I'm also attaching a couple of snapshots to see if someone can make sense of this. I went from top row in BBW to almost bottom


HEY CROP YOUR SPEED TEST IMAGE! Your IP is on there.