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SuperPookie
09-12-2015, 10:46 AM
I'm confused about what is and isn't allowed in free chat and profile pics. 90 percent of profile pics seem to have boobs and one model today had her legs spread wide open. Now I personally don't want to do this but am I just flat not understanding the rules? So far I've been telling guys that sm wouldn't allow it but I'm wondering if I've been full of crap lol.

justlurk
09-12-2015, 11:38 AM
Just curious would you do a show with a customer that rated you less than 5 stars? What bout 4 stars? I personally blocked a couple. Maybe I'm being too harsh. A guy called me a real bitch for caring about the 4 stars.

LittleLexy
09-12-2015, 11:44 AM
I'm confused about what is and isn't allowed in free chat and profile pics. 90 percent of profile pics seem to have boobs and one model today had her legs spread wide open. Now I personally don't want to do this but am I just flat not understanding the rules? So far I've been telling guys that sm wouldn't allow it but I'm wondering if I've been full of crap lol.

The rules are different for different models. That's sad to say but its true. I get called all kinds of names by men that want me to flash my vagina in free. Sorry..its not gonna happen dumbfuck. As far as profile pics...this is confusing to me because I know the profile pic has to be approved by Streamate. I just have come to the conclusion that its okay for some and not others. I'm going to follow the rules and not do it.

LittleLexy
09-12-2015, 11:50 AM
Just curious would you do a show with a customer that rated you less than 5 stars? What bout 4 stars? I personally blocked a couple. Maybe I'm being too harsh. A guy called me a real bitch for caring about the 4 stars.

I have one regular who rated me a 4 and he kept coming back. At first I accepted it thinking it was a mistake. After it kept happening I brought it up. I'm like why do you keep coming back when you keep rating me 4. He stopped doing that, he gave me 5's.. then just stopped doing shows. Now he comes in and just hangs out. I don't really like him anyway, so his loss of privates didn't bother me at all. I have a handful of regulars that I put up with because they are regulars that spend anywhere from 20.00 to 40.00 my cut. You are not being to harsh. These guys want certain things..and I am almost certain that most don't give two shits about our feelings. So the way I look at it..if they are getting what they want from us...a good rating is the respectful thing to do. You are in no way a bitch for caring about your ratings.

seicento
09-12-2015, 11:53 AM
Just curious would you do a show with a customer that rated you less than 5 stars? What bout 4 stars? I personally blocked a couple. Maybe I'm being too harsh. A guy called me a real bitch for caring about the 4 stars.
Nope.I ban their sorry asses.More if they rated me poor for not doing something I never said I'll do.

justlurk
09-12-2015, 11:58 AM
A guy who gave me 1 star kept coming back and claimed "I didn't listen" I did all he asked. It's so strange. Other guy who gave me 4 stars said he had better and thought it was a good rating.

KatM
09-12-2015, 12:04 PM
I'm confused about what is and isn't allowed in free chat and profile pics. 90 percent of profile pics seem to have boobs and one model today had her legs spread wide open. Now I personally don't want to do this but am I just flat not understanding the rules? So far I've been telling guys that sm wouldn't allow it but I'm wondering if I've been full of crap lol.

Some models dont have a permanent static profile pic so in model's list it shows a live picture taken during the live stream session, that's why u get to see all kind of pictures that dont follow site rules.

seicento
09-12-2015, 12:06 PM
A guy who gave me 1 star kept coming back and claimed "I didn't listen" I did all he asked. It's so strange. Other guy who gave me 4 stars said he had better and thought it was a good rating.

You can ask support to have poor ratings removed.Do not allow them to come back,they are ruining your overall rating and it will mess with your placement.
Show them the way out to find better.Ban,ban,ban.

justlurk
09-12-2015, 12:08 PM
Is it allowed to post customers screen names from SM? I think a thread of peepers, trolls, etc would benefit other models. There's a couple of serious offenders on my block list that should be reported for abusing the 30 second in private rule. I take notes on all my guests so I know if they continue harassing my privates with other customers.

seicento
09-12-2015, 12:11 PM
I'm confused about what is and isn't allowed in free chat and profile pics. 90 percent of profile pics seem to have boobs and one model today had her legs spread wide open. Now I personally don't want to do this but am I just flat not understanding the rules? So far I've been telling guys that sm wouldn't allow it but I'm wondering if I've been full of crap lol.

From what I know boobs in profile pics are allowed.They do not allow explicit pics for profiles but boobs are fine,they approved a few topless pics of mine.

euro_princess
09-12-2015, 12:15 PM
They do not delete the 4 star ratings. SM thinks is a good one.
But for me feels like the customer wasn't pleased. So, you had better? Then go and fucking have better in a different room. *bans and wishes him a nice day*.

seicento
09-12-2015, 12:16 PM
Is it allowed to post customers screen names from SM? I think a thread of peepers, trolls, etc would benefit other models. There's a couple of serious offenders on my block list that should be reported for abusing the 30 second in private rule. I take notes on all my guests so I know if they continue harassing my privates with other customers.

The ones abusing,report them to support.

seicento
09-12-2015, 12:19 PM
They do not delete the 4 star ratings. SM thinks is a good one.
But for me feels like the customer wasn't pleased. So, you had better? Then go and fucking have better in a different room. *bans and wishes him a nice day*.

Obviously wasn't pleased.Like this guy I had last night rating me 4 because I cant twerk.4 Is not a good rating.Maybe they see it as good because it was not a 1or 2 star but is not.

justlurk
09-12-2015, 12:25 PM
That's right. SM will remove 3 and below. That's why I hate 4 star ratings they lower your overall rating and the idiots return. I told the last guy who gave me 4 stars don't rate me period and he called me a "real bitch" LOL.

Vlodina
09-12-2015, 12:54 PM
Is it allowed to post customers screen names from SM? I think a thread of peepers, trolls, etc would benefit other models.

There's no point in sharing them really, as they can change their names as often as they like, and many have the same name.

christylive
09-12-2015, 12:56 PM
The ones abusing,report them to support.

On a few occasions I was told nothing could be done because some names are common and are used by multiple members....

christylive
09-12-2015, 01:00 PM
I've wanted to kill streamate and every customer who isn't a regular for the past 2 months. What the hell are you doing with the 65% Getting shit free traffic from dating sites? Come onnnnnnnn. Every new guy has been a freeloading, confused mess. Do we know where they're getting this "new" traffic from? It's been awful. if it wasn't for regulars and long time members, I'd be screwed.

BOOM!!
That's the million $ question.

seicento
09-12-2015, 01:02 PM
On a few occasions I was told nothing could be done because some names are common and are used by multiple members....

That's right,I didn't think about multiple users with the same name or them changing it meantime,in the last email SM sent to Eastern European performers they were asking us to report the ones abusing.Now that doesn't make any sense.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-12-2015, 01:42 PM
That's right,I didn't think about multiple users with the same name or them changing it meantime,in the last email SM sent to Eastern European performers they were asking us to report the ones abusing.Now that doesn't make any sense.

SM specifically asked EE cammers to report the 40 second peepers or just abusive customers in general? And yes I wrote 50 second peepers because I don't think discussing the 60 second peeper time amount is the wisest thing to discuss in a open forum.

LittleLexy
09-12-2015, 02:06 PM
That's right. SM will remove 3 and below. That's why I hate 4 star ratings they lower your overall rating and the idiots return. I told the last guy who gave me 4 stars don't rate me period and he called me a "real bitch" LOL.

Yep...they return. I take pride in my ratings. I guess I feel like if I get a four.. I failed some how. It's annoying really. To see them come back over and over makes me want to scream. I don't get it LOL If you keep coming back, then you obviously like me. I deserve a 5 LOL Who knows....most of my ratings are 5. I've had maybe 5 guys rate me 4 since 2010. Of course I get the assholes that come in for 1 minute while I'm in a private show and rate me 1 or 2. Im like seriously dude. I'm in a show and you didn't even say hello or give me time to perform for you. I just want to kick those asshats in the ball sack.

seicento
09-12-2015, 02:25 PM
SM specifically asked EE cammers to report the 40 second peepers or just abusive customers in general? And yes I wrote 50 second peepers because I don't think discussing the 60 second peeper time amount is the wisest thing to discuss in a open forum.

Peepers.I only said abusing because I didnt want to be specific about time.The email was in my native language other way I would paste that paragraph here.Anyway was something like...they monitor the system for peepers and if we suspect members who abuse the rule,entering and leaving the chat for more than x times (again I cant mention the number) we may report them.

Sunnylexie
09-12-2015, 02:30 PM
DATING SITES?!

wait...

so could this be the reason I had hundreds of guys asking for my phone number, location, and if we could meet up? and when I said no they said I was a rip off?! there was some level of entitlement and confusion going on yesterday that I couldn't place my finger on. I also encountered numerous guys professing their love for me upon meeting me yesterday like another model mentioned above.

Remember SM, not all traffic is good traffic. Who cares about lots of traffic when these guys are under the impression all of us models are just as horny and desperate AND willing to meet up in person as they are? It's dead end traffic leading to bullshit conversions and frustrating your models.


I had guys ask why the site wanted their CC number.
42577

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-12-2015, 02:32 PM
Peepers.I only said abusing because I didnt want to be specific about time.The email was in my native language other way I would paste that paragraph here.Anyway was something like...they monitor the system for peepers and if we suspect members who abuse the rule,entering and leaving the chat for more than x times (again I cant mention the number) we may report them.

That is amazing and interesting at the same time. Thank you

JessRyan
09-12-2015, 03:36 PM
Is it allowed to post customers screen names from SM? I think a thread of peepers, trolls, etc would benefit other models. There's a couple of serious offenders on my block list that should be reported for abusing the 30 second in private rule. I take notes on all my guests so I know if they continue harassing my privates with other customers.

on this open forum? I would say no. Not in an open forum. In verified, maybe. This is an "open" forum and anyone can read it and everyone does read it. This is where those guys on your list, learn all things we WISH they didn't do. There is a lot of info on this open forum I wish could be deleted. Just my opinion.

dahlia1123
09-12-2015, 03:47 PM
That about covers it. I turned off geoblock to check my computer and I'm on frigging page 8! No wonder I'm not getting any traffic:(. I just want to frigging cry. Plus two of the categories that I should be in I'm not showing up in at all. I went all the way to the offline models and I wasn't there.


I'm having the same thing happen to me its my second week and i was getting decent traffic last week, but all of the sudden it stopped, i have the encoder, phone, 5 star ratings, my paid time percentage is low, but its because my traffic disappeared...what can i do to fix it?

ENoire
09-12-2015, 05:05 PM
Quick question, anyone cam without audio on SM? I'm going to be moving into student halls soon. and am wanting to get back into camming to supplement my student loan, but have never really seen anyone do that well without audio...

Anyone fancy pointing me in the direction of some models who cam without audio?

MissAdriana
09-12-2015, 06:08 PM
I cam without audio *sometimes* and it seems like I get customers that are more patient, they are willing to wait for you to type back, and any of the idiots are weeded out NO SOUND BB? *leaves*
As we have noticed lately a lot of guys want you to type anyway because they themselves don't have sound for whatever reason.
But it is a better option to cam with audio even if you don't speak.

webcamcutie
09-12-2015, 06:53 PM
I'm having the same thing happen to me its my second week and i was getting decent traffic last week, but all of the sudden it stopped, i have the encoder, phone, 5 star ratings, my paid time percentage is low, but its because my traffic disappeared...what can i do to fix it?

Think that happened to a lot of us this week. My time online in pvt dropped 20% this week! I haven't had it that low since I started on sm 4 years ago. It was just a shitty week. Hopefully.

webcamcutie
09-12-2015, 06:55 PM
Quick question, anyone cam without audio on SM? I'm going to be moving into student halls soon. and am wanting to get back into camming to supplement my student loan, but have never really seen anyone do that well without audio...

Anyone fancy pointing me in the direction of some models who cam without audio?

I don't use audio, never have in the 7.5 years I've cammed and I do alright.

KatM
09-12-2015, 07:05 PM
^^^ Can i ask why u dont use audio Cutie? I saw u on cam & i heard nothing but i was thinking u maybe dont offer audio in free chat but not even in pvt? That is amazing if u do good even when not using audio. I think i would loose most of my members if i stopped using sound, a large portion of my shows require audio simply.

webcamcutie
09-12-2015, 07:14 PM
^^^ Can i ask why u dont use audio Cutie? I saw u on cam & i heard nothing but i was thinking u maybe dont offer audio in free chat but not even in pvt? That is amazing if u do good even when not using audio. I think i would loose most of my members if i stopped using sound, a large portion of my shows require audio simply.

Just a personal preference and confidence thing. I've been doing it since I started which I think helps me out in the long run especially with long term clients, they've been trained to know I don't use it, and I won't. I'm much too shy of a person and in all honestly I don't lose a lot of people (any worth a darn, I'm sure) because I don't use it. Now if a host that used to use audio would switch to not using it, it may be another story.... Lol. But I have always been this way and it's a part of my Hustle. I make up for it with quick one handed (left handed at that and I'm a rightie) dirty talk during pvt, facial expressions, and my wit and charming personality.... Lol.

People don't believe me that I'm shy and that's the reason, the main reason, the other is too much background noise that could possibly interfere so I just don't bother. I would be a completely different person 100% on cam if I had to use sound and talk to people! either they'd get tired of my mouth and cocky attitude lipping off the freeloaders! or I wouldn't be the 'sex goddess' they think I am because I don't dirty talk, can't dirty talk (typing is different then talking) and I'm generally just quiet in general if you get what I mean. :)

JessRyan
09-12-2015, 09:10 PM
Obviously wasn't pleased.Like this guy I had last night rating me 4 because I cant twerk.4 Is not a good rating.Maybe they see it as good because it was not a 1or 2 star but is not.
you know, I honestly think that men just don't know any better. They don't know how important a 5 is to us. They probably think a 4 is okay. And in my book it is. I give men the benefit of the doubt, be more forgiving. A 4 tells me that it was pretty damn good, but not the big bang they may have been hoping for. If they were trying to be an a-hole or just mean, they would intentionally leave a 1 or 2.
Men are smart at a lot of things. And some times, they mean well, but just don't know any better. ;-)

seicento
09-12-2015, 10:16 PM
you know, I honestly think that men just don't know any better. They don't know how important a 5 is to us. They probably think a 4 is okay. And in my book it is. I give men the benefit of the doubt, be more forgiving. A 4 tells me that it was pretty damn good, but not the big bang they may have been hoping for. If they were trying to be an a-hole or just mean, they would intentionally leave a 1 or 2.
Men are smart at a lot of things. And some times, they mean well, but just don't know any better. ;-)

Men...I almost turned lesbian because they don't know any better.

I agree with you though ,a 4 is not as bad as a 3,2,1.But depends what makes him give me the 4.If I agreed to do something for him but then I didnt,if I gave him a shitty show because yeah,that can happen...or any other similar reason,ok,then it is fair to rate me 4 or less.But if he comes in pvt and ask me for a thing I don't advertise and I can't provide then it's not fair and I'll ban him next .

seicento
09-12-2015, 10:27 PM
So tonight 2 of my regs hanging out in my room had to refresh after every private I was having because the screen would be stuck in countdown (they dont see the actual countdown but the "i'll be back in 30 sec" message or something like that).One was logged in on streamate ,one in cammodels.Both had it happening.Is this a new glitch ?

webcamcutie
09-12-2015, 10:39 PM
What I absolutely hate about ratings is when you have a REALLY good show with a custie and then they rate you a 3.. its like, what?
You almost feel lied to you know?

SweetieBitch
09-13-2015, 02:51 AM
It's such a cunt tease when you have a reeeally solid first hour making bank and you feel all pumped up and awesome, and then the rest of the night goes to absolute shit. I'd rather make a lower steady amount every hour than deal with this fluctuating fuckery.

My regulars and a few generous newbies were around when I logged on, but then they all left. I've had lots of traffic all night but it's been nothing but cheap chatty douchebags. No privates/exclusives. Can't even get a $5 gold show going, failed three countdowns. The guys were like "Just start the show bb, at least you'll make some money." Like, fuck you asswipe, the minimum buy-in for this show literally costs 90% less than what you'd be paying for the same amount of time in private. Just fucking tip more. I'm not lowering my standards for you. Hit my goal or GTFO. >_<

Saturdays used to be really awesome for me... last Saturday was one of my worst shifts, and tonight's not looking much better. I would file this under "Camming Sucks" but I honestly think it has more to do with Streamate's influx of bullshit freeloader traffic lately.

webcamcutie
09-13-2015, 03:14 AM
I got told I looked like a 60 year old hooker by a fly by random dude that left before I could respond or block him towards the end of my night, first 2 hours were good, second 2 sucked. Thank goodness I'm off tomorrow, but I remember Saturdays being muchhh better, then again I did better than last Saturday night so I'll count my blessings there.

RaineyLane
09-13-2015, 04:27 AM
What I absolutely hate about ratings is when you have a REALLY good show with a custie and then they rate you a 3.. its like, what?
You almost feel lied to you know?

Yeah, that blows! It's probably related to buyer's remorse or their own feelings of inferiority. You probably already know you can have the rating removed by emailing support. Got my first 1 star tonight and I will be having it removed...

Smurfette
09-13-2015, 09:26 AM
Is SM really shitty for anyone else right now or is it just me? I had high hopes for a busy Sunday morning, but nope. It's godawful.

RamonaRamone
09-13-2015, 09:29 AM
Is SM really shitty for anyone else right now or is it just me? I had high hopes for a busy Sunday morning, but nope. It's godawful.

I know the football game is about to start and go all day, and it's the first Sunday of the season, so that may be part of it? I'm not stressing getting online quickly today due to that.

Smurfette
09-13-2015, 09:50 AM
Yeah, I thought it might be due to football... but the first game hasn't started yet. I figured it might be busy before the games start. Oh well!

SuperPookie
09-13-2015, 10:03 AM
wow streamate.... you dropped me an entire fucking page?? Wtf for?? I made so much more $ yesterday by NOT doing your stupid goldshows. So you drop me??? The fuck is this shit? Force ashley to do goldshows for 12 dollars of her fucking her vagina at 7 minutes. Fuck off....

calling mfc and skype shows....

Not my fucking job to convert a million people to only be 5 dollar tippers for your site. It's like, since i didn't have 100 people join gold shows yesterday you're punishing me. NEWS FLASH. Your fucking site hasn't been paying out with goldshows. I have bills to pay. Punish me for making more money with less people??? GTFOH

And...I'm editing again..

Drop me..fine...whatever.. But I'm not cheapening myself for your site. Not now. Not ever. I'm not taking shows for a few pennies just to get my placement up. You can kiss my ass. I'm worth more than that. bxtch. I don't do gold shows at all. Maybe that explains why I've dropped like 4 pages for no apparent reason. I am beginning to th in SM is trying to transition to a more tipping based site versus privates.

Blovely
09-13-2015, 11:52 AM
Is SM really shitty for anyone else right now or is it just me? I had high hopes for a busy Sunday morning, but nope. It's godawful.

I worked for 2 hours and it was good for me but I think that was mainly due to 2 of my best regulars logging on and increasing my rate. Regardless of either factor it was alot better than Saturday.....OMG it was soooooooooooooooo dreadful for me. I'm taking a long break right but I'm gonna try to get back on later.

xCamLovex
09-13-2015, 01:10 PM
I will not do gold shows either. I don't need tthe gold show clientele. They always come back later and disrespect me. Like lingering peets that disregard everything and can't stop typing GOLD SHOW BB? I want GOLD SHOW. How come no gold show? I notice my placement fluctuate but I don't need validation in placement I'd rather make bank and do it for a higher clientele.

PumpkinSpicy
09-13-2015, 01:51 PM
I will not do gold shows either. I don't need tthe gold show clientele. They always come back later and disrespect me. Like lingering peets that disregard everything and can't stop typing GOLD SHOW BB? I want GOLD SHOW. How come no gold show? I notice my placement fluctuate but I don't need validation in placement I'd rather make bank and do it for a higher clientele.

Have you tried doing gold shows with a higher minimum buy in? I've noticed that the leeches aren't willing to pay $10 for a 10 minute show but a lot of good tippers will chip in, then stick around for exclusive afterwards.

ShyCamgirlBB
09-13-2015, 02:49 PM
Have you tried doing gold shows with a higher minimum buy in? I've noticed that the leeches aren't willing to pay $10 for a 10 minute show but a lot of good tippers will chip in, then stick around for exclusive afterwards.

I've tried that. $10 for 10 minute show is only worth if you have at least 10 guys. If you only get 1--3 guys buying in you have to keep restarting the gold show to get interest. Every ten minute show needs a countdown too so you have to account for that. Everytime I don't make goal I find it so discouraging and end up hurting my morale. Because so many guys are popping in and out WATCHING you fail to make that measly goal.

Smurfette
09-13-2015, 03:01 PM
I worked for 2 hours and it was good for me but I think that was mainly due to 2 of my best regulars logging on and increasing my rate. Regardless of either factor it was alot better than Saturday.....OMG it was soooooooooooooooo dreadful for me. I'm taking a long break right but I'm gonna try to get back on later.

I'm glad to hear that! Interestingly enough, Saturday was great for me... well, the first 2 hours were at least.

tropo
09-13-2015, 03:13 PM
Has anyone else had a delayed payment? Mine was due 2 days ago and they've always been like clockwork.

RamonaRamone
09-13-2015, 06:05 PM
I'm glad to hear that! Interestingly enough, Saturday was great for me... well, the first 2 hours were at least.

Me too actually. Saturday was incredible for me, I made my goal in the first hour and a half and doubled it by the time I got offline. Today was terrible, though. Ended up logging off early, which I hate doing, but it just didn't feel worth it. ALL peepers and bullshit and one British dude shit-talking American football in Party Chat to a bunch of American guys watching the game while in my chatroom. Ugh.

TrifilinCamHo
09-13-2015, 10:47 PM
I will not do gold shows either. I don't need tthe gold show clientele. They always come back later and disrespect me. Like lingering peets that disregard everything and can't stop typing GOLD SHOW BB? I want GOLD SHOW. How come no gold show? I notice my placement fluctuate but I don't need validation in placement I'd rather make bank and do it for a higher clientele.

I feel this way as well, have done OK for myself and have decent placement without having ever done a gold show. I just like, don't have the patience or attention span or spirit it takes to make them work in my favor. Tons of respect for the hustle though!