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ShyCamgirlBB
11-24-2015, 10:39 AM
Maybe with the SM broadcaster it can be a mobile friendly site. But wth why fix something that's working fine. Its a huge sacrifice for them to drop traffic for mobile. Its going to take so much $$$ for them to fix traffic. Maybe this is the reason for all the contests. Make the girls compete for gold and attract the cheap traffic

audritwo
11-24-2015, 10:48 AM
Maybe with the SM broadcaster it can be a mobile friendly site. But wth why fix something that's working fine. Its a huge sacrifice for them to drop traffic for mobile. Its going to take so much $$$ for them to fix traffic. Maybe this is the reason for all the contests. Make the girls compete for gold and attract the cheap traffic

I've been using SMBroadcast for over a month now and I still have problems with mobile users not being able to see my stream

hyori
11-24-2015, 10:49 AM
I'm pretty much done with SM. The last few times I went on there I just pulled luck outta my ass and had some regulars show up. It is a back up site for me now and it's been that way for months.

I just stopped enjoying the hustle I guess. Hustling for privates is so different from hustling for tokens. The guys expect A LOT more for privates and at least for me, I just ended up despising guys who preferred more one/one interaction. It's why I pretty much stopped with regular Skype shows as well. I know some of y'all prefer that kind of hustle but, for me, no way, it's just too much work.

As for the SM Broadcaster, I finally got it, but I haven't even installed it because of what I've read so far here...it's still in beta and it doesn't allow splitcamming. SM's track record with glitches and all, it may blow up my computer so I ain't risking my machines to the SM Broadcaster.

ShadyPinesMa
11-24-2015, 10:49 AM
I think they know that this won't work for them.
They simply don't have the volume of traffic for models to survive on tips. They make some stupid decisions that's for sure, but I don't think they're quite dumb enough to jump onto the same playing field as MFC and CB where models at the very bottom of the page have higher room counts than the very first model on SM.
If they try to become MFC/CB....models will leave and just go to MFC/CB where they actually have the traffic to support this business model, instead of stay on the shittier half-assed version of it.

Marina Starr
11-24-2015, 10:56 AM
You are such a voice of reason. It always gets better. November was one of my top earning months!

I don't want to demean anyone's experiences, but I do want to offer you all reassurances and hope that it does get better.

ShyCamgirlBB
11-24-2015, 10:57 AM
43388. Cam models is looking mighty lonely. All I'm really trying to say is that use the data available to you. I'm not trying to bash on top models, they deserve their success and will probably continue to see success. I'm questioning how much growth there is on this site for new models. I really Dont want to grind for months and months and months to find out Streamate is past its peak. Streamate is the mother site and is going to be the major indicator of traffic. I started camming on LJ when it was still good, they made major changes, now look where it is. Most models won't even touch it anymore. Whose to say it couldn't happen to SM

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-24-2015, 11:07 AM
I think they know that this won't work for them.
They simply don't have the volume of traffic for models to survive on tips. They make some stupid decisions that's for sure, but I don't think they're quite dumb enough to jump onto the same playing field as MFC and CB where models at the very bottom of the page have higher room counts than the very first model on SM.
If they try to become MFC/CB....models will leave and just go to MFC/CB where they actually have the traffic to support this business model, instead of stay on the shittier half-assed version of it.

All good points but I'm wondering if in fact this is the plan? The last innovative tool that SM introduced was a Leaderboard for Gold shows. And now the contest where we have to drive the guys to our rooms and get them to tip vs privates. And people were very vocal about the concept and still they announce another contest with the same rules.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-24-2015, 11:08 AM
43388. Cam models is looking mighty lonely. All I'm really trying to say is that use the data available to you. I'm not trying to bash on top models, they deserve their success and will probably continue to see success. I'm questioning how much growth there is on this site for new models. I really Dont want to grind for months and months and months to find out Streamate is past its peak. Streamate is the mother site and is going to be the major indicator of traffic. I started camming on LJ when it was still good, they made major changes, now look where it is. Most models won't even touch it anymore. Whose to say it couldn't happen to SM

You already know what YOU need to do. You just have to go out and do it.

Issabelle
11-24-2015, 11:19 AM
Cam models is looking mighty lonely. All I'm really trying to say is that use the data available to you. I'm not trying to bash on top models, they deserve their success and will probably continue to see success. I'm questioning how much growth there is on this site for new models. I really Dont want to grind for months and months and months to find out Streamate is past its peak. Streamate is the mother site and is going to be the major indicator of traffic. I started camming on LJ when it was still good, they made major changes, now look where it is. Most models won't even touch it anymore. Whose to say it couldn't happen to SM

Well, I sure as hell won't be the one to say it. It's why I'm looking for a back up site myself. I succeed on SM as it is, but when the Glitches of Doom happened in August I realized how fucked I'd be if SM died the death. That said, SM has been a juggernaut for a long time and still brings in a lot of revenue, so I definitely don't think it's anywhere near time to call the coroner.

What I do know is what my studio owner tells me and I have no reason to doubt Katy's word. Based on her experience with new model sign ups who have never worked SM and models who are switching into her studio from a previously independent SM account, 1-2 weeks of long shifts with good equipment will get you placed back in at least the top half of page one on SM when you're starting from a brand new account with either new model status OR transfer of favorites from an old account. Placement is a numbers game that you can play and we all know that models are ranked towards the tippity-top by earnings. The difference between girls ranked #20-#40 on page one and those ranked #1-#20 is in income, not in hours/equipment/other factors listed on the My Ranking page. The difference in incomes, then, does have to be due to differences in hustle/sales skill. That said, top 40 models are still pulling in a few hundred to a thousand per week and that's pretty damned good money. So I would argue that, overall, SM is still a very viable site for new models to break out.

ShyCamgirlBB
11-24-2015, 11:20 AM
Yep just thought I would share some info that helped make my decision

Issabelle
11-24-2015, 11:23 AM
Yep just thought I would share some info that helped make my decision

Again, I see absolutely nothing wrong with your perspective. I just try to reassure people when I can.

oCURIOUSo
11-24-2015, 12:46 PM
I think it's worth pointing out a major limitation of Alexa data right now. First, it's only based on traffic directly to streamate.com. That doesn't include cammodels link traffic or any white labels/studios, and with as many of them out there as exist and the tendency for dudes to click on the first link they see that matches their search. Ex. 'cam site huge tits' result #4 is an SM white label while SM itself is located near the bottom of page 2 in the results. Clicking on #4 means potential traffic to your room, but it isn't going to show up on the Alexa data. To get a true picture of traffic to SM, you'd need to look up the Alexa data for every single studio site and white label. Ain't nobody got time for that, obviously, but I can promise you the numbers overall look a lot better if someone did have that kind of time.

SM is a site that uses white labels to drive traffic in a way that no other site comes even close to matching, so Alexa data for a site like MFC is going to be much more reflective of true traffic numbers.

SM uses affiliates to drive much of their traffic. Katy Boleyn used her 'insider knowledge' as a studio owner to explain this a while back. It's buried somewhere deep in this thread or I'd quote it, but basically what it boils down to is that SM only pays affiliates for traffic when that traffic signs up to the site and spends, and even then they only pay the affiliate a percentage of what the guy spent in total out of the 65% SM keeps. We can objectively realize this must be true, because the way they pay affiliates for traffic is the same way they pay models who use their cammodels.com link--you get 20% of everything a customer spends on another girl and an extra 40% of whatever they spend on you directly. We're only paid for the traffic we drive if that traffic spends.

I know I'm not the vast majority of girls and I don't want to discount the fact that a lot of girls are struggling at all, because I'm not the vast majority and girls are struggling. However, I pulled my ass to the top of the SM rankings with a lot of hours and a lot of research into shows I could offer and I do still make very good money. I'd go as far as saying that I'm on top of my game at the moment. Yes, I'm making that super obnoxious 'just work your hustle, tweak it until it works' argument and I know it's frustrating to hear when you're struggling because I really have been there myself when I was coming up through the ranks over the course of my first year. That said, I've flipped off the 'sophomore slump' my second year and I'm coming to the start of my third with high hopes. I don't want to demean anyone's experiences, but I do want to offer you all reassurances and hope that it does get better.

I think it's worth mentioning that even when you work your hustle, it takes time for it to pay off. For me, being on the top row helps and I realize not everyone has it quite as easy as I do in that respect, but even I have to work my hustle Hella hard for 2 weeks straight before I SEE a difference. Gotta be there on time every day, gotta stay on my 8 hours and not turn into a raging bitch or give in to the desire to take a nap, gotta WORK for my money. By week 3 it's smooth sailing. I have traffic even on slow days, my gold shows reach higher goals with less work and I can pick and choose who I want to go private with and when. As long as I work for it, I can make all the money I want and have fun.
That being said, omg I'm so bad at schedules. Working from home is great and also awful because it's so easy to not work. I'm forever getting caught up in househo,d chores I could leave for someone else (but no one does it right! Okay! I'm the only one that folds the towels right or mops the floor twice. They just don't get it!) And making myself late. It gets boring and I take any excuse to log off.

Point is, working your ass off this week wont pay off until next week and if you're not busting your ass then too, it's gonna seem like a fluke and make it harder to keep working hard.

IvyAdams
11-24-2015, 01:04 PM
I think it's worth mentioning that even when you work your hustle, it takes time for it to pay off. For me, being on the top row helps and I realize not everyone has it quite as easy as I do in that respect, but even I have to work my hustle Hella hard for 2 weeks straight before I SEE a difference. Gotta be there on time every day, gotta stay on my 8 hours and not turn into a raging bitch or give in to the desire to take a nap, gotta WORK for my money. By week 3 it's smooth sailing. I have traffic even on slow days, my gold shows reach higher goals with less work and I can pick and choose who I want to go private with and when. As long as I work for it, I can make all the money I want and have fun.
That being said, omg I'm so bad at schedules. Working from home is great and also awful because it's so easy to not work. I'm forever getting caught up in househo,d chores I could leave for someone else (but no one does it right! Okay! I'm the only one that folds the towels right or mops the floor twice. They just don't get it!) And making myself late. It gets boring and I take any excuse to log off.

Point is, working your ass off this week wont pay off until next week and if you're not busting your ass then too, it's gonna seem like a fluke and make it harder to keep working hard.

PREACH girl. When I'm consistent with my schedule my guys are amazing. they hang out in my room, good conversation, tips when I tell them to tip, and privates/exclusive with who I feel like. IF I stick to my schedule and LOG the fuck on consistently then it does pay off.

That being said.. I'm literally the worst at sticking to a schedule. It's basically predetermined in my brain that if I put a set time on something, I will procrastinate the fuck out of it, and come up with every excuse.

oCURIOUSo
11-24-2015, 01:19 PM
PREACH girl. When I'm consistent with my schedule my guys are amazing. they hang out in my room, good conversation, tips when I tell them to tip, and privates/exclusive with who I feel like. IF I stick to my schedule and LOG the fuck on consistently then it does pay off.

That being said.. I'm literally the worst at sticking to a schedule. It's basically predetermined in my brain that if I put a set time on something, I will procrastinate the fuck out of it, and come up with every excuse.

There's just always one more thing I have to do, you know? Just gotta make dinner, or mop the dining room, or walk the dog, or run that errand or put the kids in bed, or... or... or...

audritwo
11-24-2015, 01:20 PM
The thing that is difficult is staying consistent. The key for staying at the top is not to slack. I see girls shoot up pass me, but fall back down in a couple weeks.

Girly_Girl
11-24-2015, 01:23 PM
That happens to me a lot. First I also thought there was something wrong with their accounts. But it also happens with regulars of mine with active accounts, who haven't even changed their screename. So I don't know. They come to my chat and I tell them that I couldn't answer to their message. It's very strange.

Is very strange cause I am able to message back others:(

Tigrillo
11-24-2015, 01:24 PM
hey could someone do me a solid and help me check my placement? Morenamia I'm on right now.

can someone tell me my placement in general and can you see me in either Mature, Hairy, or Housewives category?

I'll appreciate it a lot. I start to feel paranoid here.

ShyCamgirlBB
11-24-2015, 01:28 PM
I Dont disagree with the level of hard work that goes into being a top model. But with that said, traffic is not enough to feed all the models. And my earnings expectations are not out of hand for the hours I work and the effort I put in. But because this is adult work, I do expect to make money otherwise theres no reason to do it. I started camming for the flexible hours and decent pay For those who are in school or are sahm or using camming as a secondary income and cant work full 8 hoursX5days, this lack of traffic really hurts. My post was more for the girls who find themselves unhappy with SM and their traffic or glitches. I do agree with other posts that say the site is moving closer to token style system. I chose SM because im more of a pvt exc hustle. If course I'm keeping SM as one of the many eggs I now have, but I'm not relying on it anymore for a majority of my adult income.

audritwo
11-24-2015, 01:56 PM
hey could someone do me a solid and help me check my placement? Morenamia I'm on right now.

can someone tell me my placement in general and can you see me in either Mature, Hairy, or Housewives category?

I'll appreciate it a lot. I start to feel paranoid here.

on cammodels.com you are on page 5.
http://www.cammodels.com/?pagenum=5

Girly_Girl
11-24-2015, 02:53 PM
Beware there is a dumb ass PRETENDING to give u gold so u will show stuff in free chat!! I just laughed at him and said nice try!!! :P

Which it has happened to me before but just wanted to warn any new girls ;)


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Issabelle
11-24-2015, 02:55 PM
I Dont disagree with the level of hard work that goes into being a top model. But with that said, traffic is not enough to feed all the models. And my earnings expectations are not out of hand for the hours I work and the effort I put in. But because this is adult work, I do expect to make money otherwise theres no reason to do it. I started camming for the flexible hours and decent pay For those who are in school or are sahm or using camming as a secondary income and cant work full 8 hoursX5days, this lack of traffic really hurts. My post was more for the girls who find themselves unhappy with SM and their traffic or glitches. I do agree with other posts that say the site is moving closer to token style system. I chose SM because im more of a pvt exc hustle. If course I'm keeping SM as one of the many eggs I now have, but I'm not relying on it anymore for a majority of my adult income.

The thing is that you've sort of answered your own question/solved your issue in what you just said about traffic/new models/sustainable income. Although the distribution of traffic is certainly going to be a cascade with the highest rated girls seeing the most clicks, that's something that's true on every site and not just on SM. Dudes click on the first pretty thing they like that gets them hot. If you're on page 2 and they found that girl in row 2, well, you're screwed obviously, but as has also been pointed out it's very easy to 'cheat' the placement algorithm into getting yourself that high placement that gets you traffic. 15-20 hours per week is all that it takes to get there over the course of a few months and 10-20 hours per week with a solid hourly is all that's truly required to maintain that placement. Placement and traffic being intrinsically linked means that no matter where you go, you'll have to put in the initial burst of time to get higher up on the rankings. Once you have the ranking, the traffic follows and so long as you maintain a consistent schedule* going up the ranks and once you've gotten where you want to be, you will see a consistent income.

If your hours are truly all over the place or very low in number, you can't expect to be very successful on SM or any other site. It really does suck for people with ever-changing schedules like SAHMs and students, but that's not going to change from site to site. Anytime I work a shift I'm not normally online for, I see a dip in my placement and, usually, a dip in my hourly as well. It's not just new girls or ladies who don't have a lot of time to be online.

Re: consistent schedule. I'm not saying you need to do 8 hours per day, 5 days per week all the time. I'm saying that you need to do your best to be consistent in when you're online. If you always work Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights from 6 - 11 p.m., you'll build regulars and see more earnings as they'll plan for you to be around at those times. If you can only work weird shifts (say, Monday from 5 - 8 a.m., Tuesday from 8-11 p.m., Thursday 1-4 p.m., etc.), that's actually still fine (I do it myself) as long as you do your best to be around at those same times each week. Again, 'consistent' is just a euphemism for 'consistent for the customers' in this case.

As for the glitches, well, yeah. I'm actually cannot defend any part of that. When privates are lagging into free chat for minutes on end and customers can't connect because of whatever fuck all issue, it hurts everyone and that only gets worse if you're lower down in the ranks with less traffic to begin with. It's stupid and I whole-heartedly sympathize. Hence my looking into alternative 'main' sites.

P.S. I hate the token site style hustle they've shifted towards. I've done like 6 gold shows in my two years on SM. I hate them. I do not want to do them. If I wanted to do a semi-public show or group-based hustle, I'd work MFC or CB. Stick to your damned strengths SM--you don't have the audience, models, or damned infrastructure to be a token site.

webcamcutie
11-24-2015, 03:09 PM
PREACH girl. When I'm consistent with my schedule my guys are amazing. they hang out in my room, good conversation, tips when I tell them to tip, and privates/exclusive with who I feel like. IF I stick to my schedule and LOG the fuck on consistently then it does pay off.

That being said.. I'm literally the worst at sticking to a schedule. It's basically predetermined in my brain that if I put a set time on something, I will procrastinate the fuck out of it, and come up with every excuse.

So guilty of this too, its so true! I have issues sticking to a schedule and being on time especially if things are going flakey but it soooo pays off in the end! Just gotta get to the grind and stop f'ing around but its so hard to log on if you dread that it'll be dead and the same crap over and over, happens to the best of us I think.

Bottom line, you work hard, it pays off in the end, absolutely 110% I agree with both of you!

Tigrillo
11-24-2015, 03:11 PM
@audritwo Thanks for your answer. that was a little lower than I expected, but it does explain my resounding fails of these last days.

How about the categories? Can anyone help me out with that? check morenamia on SM and tell me whether I show up in the Mature, Housewives category, Hairy too if that's not too much trouble?


I have this crazy glitch (SM support says) where I can see myself at the top of the Hairy category, but not in the Mature category where I ought to be according to my age. I wrote to Support about it and they removed me from the Housewives category, saying I could only be in one of the two. Then I could find myself in Mature for exacty one shift, and after that day, I was gone from Mature again, for good.
I don't even know if categories even help that much so I gave up with Support. They claim I'm still showing up in Mature. I already am on a second or third tier for rates and traffic --as I'm excluded from North America although strictly speaking, MX is part of it hence the NAFTA--, and sometimes I feel so sabotaged in general that I don't know if it's worth it to keep trying. I know today my day is sucking mainly because I didn't put in the hours last week, but on the whole I've never done stellar on SM, it's always been such a hard grind to achieve my weekly goals, and I'm embarassed to admit my hourly rates. They're only good enough to be slightly better than what I'd do in a vanilla job in my country, which speaks very badly of my country. But I'll take it as long as I'm not actively being sabotaged, which is the pervasive feeling I sometimes get with traffic. Some days the traffic just feels odd.

Does someone know if that is even possible (being manually removed from categories) or if it matters? Should I just keep at it? I'm sorry for the long ramble, but I had to get it out and maybe someone has gone through something similar.

minniesoporno
11-24-2015, 03:19 PM
Anyone trying out the new SMBroadcast (Beta) just installed it and it keeps crashing when I am trying calibrate. Can't move pass that step to even see if I Can start my show with it. thought it would be good to have so I Can split cam cams and SM in HD.

but looks like I will have to go back to being in regular mode on cams and Encorder on streamate.

SM_CamGirl
11-24-2015, 04:06 PM
Anyone trying out the new SMBroadcast (Beta) just installed it and it keeps crashing when I am trying calibrate. Can't move pass that step to even see if I Can start my show with it. thought it would be good to have so I Can split cam cams and SM in HD.

but looks like I will have to go back to being in regular mode on cams and Encorder on streamate.

calibrate took me about 5 times, i was using it all day today but... sometimes the sound does not work, and the guys say my video is frozen or say the only that they see is a black screen... and they are from pc

caramelDip
11-24-2015, 04:23 PM
Do I have to contact Vanessa to delete my SM profile?

No camming woes for me, I just call myself "retiring" lol.

audritwo
11-24-2015, 04:25 PM
Beware there is a dumb ass PRETENDING to give u gold so u will show stuff in free chat!! I just laughed at him and said nice try!!! :P

Which it has happened to me before but just wanted to warn any new girls ;)


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screenshot and report his account and send sm support a message and send them the screenshot.
Report them under fraud

JaneBurgess
11-24-2015, 04:33 PM
Me too. It gets to 60 percent and keeps crashing. I have no idea why its not working




Anyone trying out the new SMBroadcast (Beta) just installed it and it keeps crashing when I am trying calibrate. Can't move pass that step to even see if I Can start my show with it. thought it would be good to have so I Can split cam cams and SM in HD.

but looks like I will have to go back to being in regular mode on cams and Encorder on streamate.

SuperPookie
11-24-2015, 04:52 PM
It could also mean his account was deleted or that he changed his username. To the best of my knowledge, customers cannot block model messages after the customer has sent the model a message the first time. I never played with messaging much on my old customer account though, so I'm not 100% sure on that. It's done that to me with several messages to regulars. I logged out and logged in again and most sent fine then except for one that took a couple of days before I could message him again.

Holly_xoxo
11-24-2015, 04:52 PM
Anyone trying out the new SMBroadcast (Beta) just installed it and it keeps crashing when I am trying calibrate. Can't move pass that step to even see if I Can start my show with it. thought it would be good to have so I Can split cam cams and SM in HD.

but looks like I will have to go back to being in regular mode on cams and Encorder on streamate.


I had that problem. Tried for 2 days to get it to calibrate and it just kept crashing. Finally, it worked after at least 50 tries. All I can suggest is to keep trying. Eventually, it will work.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-24-2015, 05:03 PM
It crashed on the first try. BUT it happened immediately after my dog started barking. Someone pulled up in the driveway and he thinks he's cujo or something? I tried it the second time complete silence and it worked. No talking at all it could be that sensitive. Also I closed everything on my machine to make sure I would get the best reading possible. Skype closed. Firewall too. I didn't want any complications that may give my setup a false reading. No other browsers open. No music streaming on other devices . Nothing . If you're still having issues getting it to calibrate then it may be your set up. Or not! Goooo streamate. And still not a single representative around to walk people through it and inspire confidence.

TrifilinCamHo
11-24-2015, 05:09 PM
I feel like I should know this, but I gotta ask anyways. I'm sure it's already been covered so please forgive me, but what is cammodels in relation to Streamate? Is it like their biggest White Label site?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-24-2015, 05:16 PM
I feel like I should know this, but I gotta ask anyways. I'm sure it's already been covered so please forgive me, but what is cammodels in relation to Streamate? Is it like their biggest White Label site?

Its how models promote themselves and make more money by using the link www.yourcamname.cammodels.com

When they sign up u get 20% of whatever he spends on site. But when they spend on you you get 40% of what he spends on you. Any site you work you should ask about an affiliate program. Like always

MsBellaSpanxx
11-24-2015, 05:20 PM
Me too. It gets to 60 percent and keeps crashing. I have no idea why its not working

I only make it to 50%. Maybe there's hope I can get to 60% today! haha

xxtinamariexx
11-24-2015, 05:44 PM
I am one that DOES keep a schedule since I can only cam when kids are at school.. I am on mostly the same time every day every day mon-fri 5 hrs a day.. if not 6
Went back and looked at last year compared to this year. I see a difference .. and also... last year I was making top model on CMD.. and still doing better in paid chat (andCMD is DEAD for me) :( So no matter how I look at it.. its worse for me.
Nothing changed. Just working more

http://i.imgur.com/ifKILuB.png

http://i.imgur.com/lEdTH0R.png

HoneyKitten
11-24-2015, 06:09 PM
Thank you!! Now another dumb question, I finally made over $100 -- when does SM pay out (I'm through payoneer)... They do it weekly, is that right? On Fridays? I'm under this impression, just wondering if anyone else can answer this for me. (I know I should know this by now, I've just been through so many sites in the past week or so, I've gotten them confused, and it wasn't on the first page that I saw, so any help is appreciated!)

Yes weekly. My week ends Saturday, but I am outside the US. I receive payment every monday into my payoneer account. You will have to wait for the next weekly pay cycle for payment, as you get paid 9-10 days after the week ends.

Issabelle
11-24-2015, 06:48 PM
I am one that DOES keep a schedule since I can only cam when kids are at school.. I am on mostly the same time every day every day mon-fri 5 hrs a day.. if not 6
Went back and looked at last year compared to this year. I see a difference .. and also... last year I was making top model on CMD.. and still doing better in paid chat (andCMD is DEAD for me) :( So no matter how I look at it.. its worse for me.
Nothing changed. Just working more

That is the other big factor that can screw over ladies who don't have the 'flexibility' that a flexible sales job schedule 'affords' them. Sure, you can log on whenever you want/are available, but that doesn't mean it's a peak time to be online. Over the course of two years, my 'best days' have changed four times and my best time slot in each day has changed about every three months. That's all well and good if you have the flexibility to move your shifts around to wherever the peak traffic of the moment is at, but it's an SOL situation if you're set in the shift time that has the lowest traffic. Looking at my own numbers, I can pinpoint exactly where the shifts in peak days and times where, but there's no particular rhyme or reason to when they change.

I keep an excel sheet that lists out every hour in the day from midnight to midnight and each day of the week from Sunday to Saturday. Every shift I work has the hourly I made filled into it, including notes about any glitches I experienced or if I started mid-hour for the shift, etc. I've got these running back 1.5-2 years. I can run the averages and know that while my hourly itself hasn't taken a hit significant hit during slumps (except for Glitches of Doom, which don't count obviously), it has taken hits during different parts of the day. Back in summer 2014 I worked days and made hella bank. These days when I log in during the day, I make hella change (like, 35-40% of my normal hourly if that).

The lesson I learned the hard way with indy, SM, and my brief foray into MFC is that consistency in the schedule is key to maintaining regulars, but the ability to move with your regulars or move to time slots with a high volume of spending customers as old customers 'expire' or change their own schedules is equally important.

Again, if you aren't truly 'flexible' in your schedule and have a lot of day-to-day commitments, this job isn't nearly as flexible as it seems to be at first glance. Sure, it's better than a low-paying vanilla job with set hours for pretty much all of us on this forum, but it's far from perfect. It blows, because it means that ladies who don't have the commitments of another job, school, or children/partners to contend with have an added leg up on the competition.

Marina Starr
11-24-2015, 07:28 PM
Tina :)
Thank you for sharing. I have to say that consistency for me is overrated. I do much better when I just swing it because I'm a built-in fetish. I believe the best time to work is whenever you CAN cam. Yes, there are "peak" hours but they do not matter if you cannot work them.

I am one that DOES keep a schedule since I can only cam when kids are at school.. I am on mostly the same time every day every day mon-fri 5 hrs a day.. if not 6
Went back and looked at last year compared to this year. I see a difference .. and also... last year I was making top model on CMD.. and still doing better in paid chat (andCMD is DEAD for me) :( So no matter how I look at it.. its worse for me.
Nothing changed. Just working more

pixiepower329
11-24-2015, 07:45 PM
And sometimes... you're just an anomaly.

I clock 20-35 hours per week on SM-- consistent schedule, generally closer to the 35 than the 20. This particular week.......

I have made a grand total of 85 dollars with 11 hours in so far (making it a mega week because--- Christmas). Mind you... my placement hovers between row 7 and row 12 of the first page. On occasion it gets as high as row 5. On occasion it drops to about 14... but generally, I'm sitting right about row 8-- so it isn't a placement issue.

This week my intention was to fully devote all my time to SM because I need the daily pay. Needless to say-- I'm just about in tears from having made that decision.

Chellyinparadise
11-24-2015, 07:56 PM
Hope things pick up for you pixie, sorry to hear.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-24-2015, 08:00 PM
If you're not hitting your numbers on SM and you don't have a Beast Mode computer like most splitcammers, consider nixing that encoder on SM. Not using an encoder frees up so much of your cpu usage. Not all sites hog your resources like SM. Again if you are not hitting your numbers what do you have to lose?

christylive
11-24-2015, 08:11 PM
Me too. It gets to 60 percent and keeps crashing. I have no idea why its not working

Same thing happened to me over and over my 1st time setting it up yesterday . what I did was press the option it gives to find out the problem and click recommended settings. No problems after that.

BadBitch
11-24-2015, 08:20 PM
The thing that is difficult is staying consistent. The key for staying at the top is not to slack. I see girls shoot up pass me, but fall back down in a couple weeks.

But how do you get up there? I've been killing myself everyday but still on the 5th and 6th row. Argh.

BadBitch
11-24-2015, 08:25 PM
This is what I'm getting as page 1 when logged on to custie account

I posted about this last week. The placements are different logged off than on. Someone told me that it was due to the geo blocking.

oCURIOUSo
11-24-2015, 08:25 PM
But how do you get up there? I've been killing myself everyday but still on the 5th and 6th row. Argh.

It's all a numbers game. Obviously, the crap SM tells you, good internet, cam and lighting. Blah blah blah, but to get on top you have to 1. Make them money, the more the better, 2. convert non paying customers to paying customers, and 3. spend time in paid chat. over 50% paid chat every day for a week can bump you WAY up.

pixiepower329
11-24-2015, 08:33 PM
SM has been warning people if they catch you split-camming... including suspensions for doing so. I don't know if this is a new thing or not, but I know 3 girls who have all been handed suspensions for it. I have a machine that I can absolutely split with.... but with SM being my primary source of Daily Pay... I'm very reticent to risk a suspension.

audritwo
11-24-2015, 08:34 PM
It's all a numbers game. Obviously, the crap SM tells you, good internet, cam and lighting. Blah blah blah, but to get on top you have to 1. Make them money, the more the better, 2. convert non paying customers to paying customers, and 3. spend time in paid chat. over 50% paid chat every day for a week can bump you WAY up.

This is pretty much the formula.

Glamourmilf
11-24-2015, 08:56 PM
Tina :)
Thank you for sharing. I have to say that consistency for me is overrated. I do much better when I just swing it because I'm a built-in fetish. I believe the best time to work is whenever you CAN cam. Yes, there are "peak" hours but they do not matter if you cannot work them.

Same for me. I just logged on tonight for instance, and made my goal in under an hr. Haven't been on since Saturday, go on at random times.They miss me? Never know when to get me? don't really know which one it is. Don't really care, cause I always make money when I hop on.
When I first started camming 5 yrs ago, I was on a schedule, yet make more now. New Yorkers have a saying, "Don't be a face."~ Meaning, if you're too available and always around, it's too easy to get sick of you, and take you for granted.

PrettyPuppet
11-24-2015, 09:01 PM
Back with another question.
I started on last week's pay period. For my payment method I picked the mailed check and made well over the $20 minimum. I've seen that it can take a while to get the actual check, but I was wondering how long does it generally take for the payment history to be updated on sm? My earnings were switched back to zero for the week and if I go in my earnings history I can see what I made last week, but it says no payments in the payment history and has for a few days now.
I'm fine with waiting on the actual check, but it's making me nervous that they are saying no payments.
Sorry if this is another stupid question (I facepalmed after getting the answer to my last one haha)

SoloDesire
11-24-2015, 09:05 PM
I agree on being sporadic and making more that way. My placement is better because I just log on, make money, log off. And my patience is better because if it's too slow I log off and try again later. My placement was so much worse when I was staying on for hours at a time just to get my time in even if it was slow. Now I'm in the "poor" rank for time online (only do about 3-4 hours a day), placement is about 5 rows higher, and I'm making the same amount of money in less time. I just don't have the tolerance to sit in a dead room for more than an hour at a time anymore.