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xxtinamariexx
02-21-2013, 03:43 AM
I was lagging really bad last night too and I usually never am, I also noticed a top model lagging extremely bad as well. I logged out and then back in, and it seemed better for me at least.

AliceFun
02-21-2013, 04:34 AM
Looks like SM owners/ managers dont see the big picture, they ruined the site with Gold shows and TV and changing business approach in general, few years ago things were working smooth and nice, we had good paying traffic and quality members. I know sites going the same path years ago and business died, SM is following the same path unfortunately. I felt it will happen when they introduced Gold shows.
I just dont have other site to fit my working style and be profitable and reliable and cover chargebacks like SM does, i feel we are sinking together with site.
Scary!

Marina Starr
02-21-2013, 07:22 AM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/tumblr_m0amp4Nji41r3ty02o1_500.gif

Looks like SM owners/ managers dont see the big picture, they ruined the site with Gold shows and TV and changing business approach in general, few years ago things were working smooth and nice, we had good paying traffic and quality members. I know sites going the same path years ago and business died, SM is following the same path unfortunately. I felt it will happen when they introduced Gold shows.
I just dont have other site to fit my working style and be profitable and reliable and cover chargebacks like SM does, i feel we are sinking together with site.
Scary!

vanity6girl
02-21-2013, 09:03 AM
is anyone having connection problems lately.?? seems like when I go private or when I am on for a few minutes it will say connection lost. I just bought a new laptop too and made a new sm account because I was having problems with my last account...omg..only made $3 this week ...keep having problems streaming.

Marina Starr
02-21-2013, 09:06 AM
I was lagging really bad last night and so are a lot of models! SM it's fucked up really bad lately!

is anyone having connection problems lately.?? seems like when I go private or when I am on for a few minutes it will say connection lost. I just bought a new laptop too and made a new sm account because I was having problems with my last account...omg..only made $3 this week ...keep having problems streaming.

vanity6girl
02-21-2013, 10:23 AM
It sucks because I made $3 for the whole week, it was good last week. I was on the new model page..but dont think i am there now

SarahTime
02-21-2013, 11:31 AM
Looks like SM owners/ managers dont see the big picture, they ruined the site with Gold shows

I think this is a matter of opinion, because my income AT LEAST doubled when they introduced gold shows... meaning theirs did as well. I still make way more off gold shows than privates. I agree that it has completely changed the game and the attitude of the customers, I definitely have my own complaints about it all, but in terms of "ruining" the site.... I would have to venture a guess that the SM owners and managers are QUITE happy with the results....

Lexilexxx
02-21-2013, 01:41 PM
I have also heard the prvt. sound, while in free....no one went prvt. How weird is that? :O

AliceFun
02-21-2013, 02:23 PM
I think this is a matter of opinion, because my income AT LEAST doubled when they introduced gold shows... meaning theirs did as well. I still make way more off gold shows than privates. I agree that it has completely changed the game and the attitude of the customers, I definitely have my own complaints about it all, but in terms of "ruining" the site.... I would have to venture a guess that the SM owners and managers are QUITE happy with the results....

You are lucky cause Gold shows are profitable for you and helped u gain alot more exposure but have in mind a few factors: you are native english speaker and this is a huge factor in order to have success with GS, it's one thing to talk freely with a full room and entertain many guys with your show when u dont need to type and is another thing to try to complete a GS when u need to type cause u either not able to speak decent english or u see guys dont buy in cause u a foreigner, members are very picky, if u check rooms running GS u'll see the difference between english native speakers (mostly american/ canadian models) and models from other regions. Unless u look very good, young and tuned u not going to be successful with GS if you are a foreigner. I see for example drop dead beautiful russian girls trying very hard GS with no success, people wont pay simply. It happened the same with me so i gave up, was not working for me either.

Then again, all that guys coming to you in GS will not go to other rooms anymore to buy privates, so while u bank with GS others suffer from lack of traffic. GS helped some models to become top girls but is very bad for alot others not able to compete with you for example.

Reading ur posts here i feel u are alot in love with SM staff/ have connections and defend them often when others criticize them and i fully understand you cause they help u alot with promoting u and such, let's face it, but u see, i dont talk about top models banking with GS, i talk about all models in general and site as a whole. Pls dont get offended by my comments but i had to make a few things clear here, thank you!

PrincessLuna
02-21-2013, 02:40 PM
Then again, all that guys coming to you in GS will not go to other rooms anymore to buy privates, so while u bank with GS others suffer from lack of traffic. GS helped some models to become top girls but is very bad for alot others not able to compete with you for example.

This is not really true. I have many regulars who have been coming into my paid chat for years who get GS from other girls.

Blovely
02-21-2013, 03:42 PM
Looks like SM owners/ managers dont see the big picture, they ruined the site with Gold shows and TV and changing business approach in general.

I think this is a matter of opinion, because my income AT LEAST doubled when they introduced gold shows... meaning theirs did as well. I still make way more off gold shows than privates. I agree that it has completely changed the game and the attitude of the customers, I definitely have my own complaints about it all, but in terms of "ruining" the site.... I would have to venture a guess that the SM owners and managers are QUITE happy with the results....
I don't do gold/tv shows but I agree with Sarah. I don't think these features ruined the site. I think what's negatively effecting the site is Streamate its self. There wouldn't be girls showing and fucking their pussy in free chat if SM patrolled freechat and enforced their rules. I also think that what Jane said about SM not buying traffic anymore is true. Like I said before I've noticed a difference in traffic or lack there of for a while now. Once she said that everything made sense to me. Models wouldn't be doing cheap shows and giving away a shit ton of goodies if the traffic was up to par. If the traffic was good models would be making their goals and wouldn't have or feel the need to result to doing cheap things in order to make their goal.

I use to have a lot of guys in my room and now I'm lucky if I get a couple of guys per hour. I know that its not just me because I've watched other models who were in the #1 position of the site or their category. Some were doing goldshows and had 20-80 guys in their room which is low compared to the past. I remember when there was 1000 dudes in 1 goldshow room. Others who weren't doing goldshows only had like 5-20 guys in their room. They're in the #1 position of the site or category ..they shouldn't have such low #'s in traffic.

If SM stopped buying traffic in order to fund the tv show feature then that's pretty silly. In order for a new feature to do well you still need traffic. You can't launch a new business with out traffic/advertising. Well you can but its not going to last long at all. It makes absolutely no sense to stop buying traffic or create a different marketing scheme when the past one was working. Now I see why so many of these sites went down the drain (imlive, ifriends, etc). They stopped buying traffic which resulted in their site becoming dead. You need to constantly pump traffic (quality traffic) into these types of sites in order for them to do well. In order to be able to afford traffic you need to make a profit. Us models can not make them or ourselves a profit if we don't have traffic. You can't tell me that us models(with our 35%) aren't making them a profit.

As far as all these glitches go. I'm thinking that SM doesn't have a webmaster/developer (they've had "We're hiring developers! See information in the footer..." posted on the site forever) or they don't want to/can't pay to get the issue fixed. Upgrading the server didn't work nor did requiring models to get an i7. No other site has these issues except SM. What ever the issue is SM is avoiding it like the plague. There's no other reasoning I can come up with. I don't even run a business(well expect camming) but what I've said is pretty much common sense. If I'm aware of all of these things then I know SM is as well. So I don't know why they're acting up. I really hope that SM gets it together. Get your shit together SM Please and Thank You!

AliceFun
02-21-2013, 04:27 PM
I do agree with you blovely and will add a few things: i am an accountant here and know things, we are here now cause they decided to change things that were working and cause gold shows changed members behavior entirely, these members spend less and if u have less money coming in ur bank account this is going to affect you, u cant buy traffic anymore. this is the biggest mistake indeed cause if there is no traffic u can make site as complex as u want (TV and all), sooner or later site will die.

Took ifriends and imlive a few years to get there and SM is following the path unfortunately. and no, they cant be happy with numbers cause if they were they would have money to fix site glitches and buy traffic. i am very much affected by the fact i trusted them and bought new pc and equipment to see after they implemented new features that are profitable to certain people only. I also saw in GS rooms regular members of mine that wont come to pvt with me anymore but join that cheap GS and spend a little.

Is the mentality that changed, a guy will think now "hmmm, why to buy a show that will cost me $100 for example when i could pay $1 for a show and get off, so what is not my favorite model i watch or i dont have model full attention, is still a hot girl with a hot body so i go for it". i dont say this is happening with all members but with a lot of them is the case, otherwise we would still have good business in our rooms, right? Not to mention all the pics and vids models give away now to members in order to have them spending in GS or private, before was not the case to do such a thing. I can only say SM was not aware of the consequences of their business plan on long term, they were happy with the GS boom at beginning but then things started to change in bad. From a good site

SM changed into a cheap site full of glitches and frustrated models AND CHEAP MEMBERS.
Ok, i dont wanna argue with people here, is not my style, i felt there was a need for a different point of view which is good cause that's democracy, to see things from different angles and have the option to speak them out, have peace!

Incantatious
02-21-2013, 04:56 PM
To hell with speculation. For the benefit of my own time and sanity I am translating into simple terms now...

For as long as there are lonely / horny men who make money, and who enjoying the relative anonymity of interacting with a webcam model, we will have men take us private.

GOLD shows, strange marketing tactics, other girls pounding pussy in free chat, whatever else... will NOT change this!

GOLD shows are not private shows where the guy gets exclusive, one-on-one interaction.

We can't even see their cam. It isn't the same.

And the guys who flock to camsites for that exclusivity aren't going to be appreciative of GOLD shows. It still boils down to it, that if you don't want that, don't want to encourage an audience of guys who want GOLD shows constantly, don't run them, don't cater to them. Girls who run non-stop GOLD shows are not competition to the girls who provide the one-on-one interaction service of private and exclusive shows. Apples and oranges.

Work the site/s that work best for you, stick with them, stick to your game-plan, and rock that shit up. <3

Marina Starr
02-21-2013, 04:58 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/dm2zc4_zps46bf397c.gifhttp://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/dm2zc4_zps46bf397c.gifhttp://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/dm2zc4_zps46bf397c.gif

To hell with speculation. For the benefit of my own time and sanity I am translating into simple terms now...

For as long as there are lonely / horny men who make money, and who enjoying the relative anonymity of interacting with a webcam model, we will have men take us private.

GOLD shows, strange marketing tactics, other girls pounding pussy in free chat, whatever else... will NOT change this!

GOLD shows are not private shows where the guy gets exclusive, one-on-one interaction.

We can't even see their cam. It isn't the same.

And the guys who flock to camsites for that exclusivity aren't going to be appreciative of GOLD shows. It still boils down to it, that if you don't want that, don't want to encourage an audience of guys who want GOLD shows constantly, don't run them, don't cater to them. Girls who run non-stop GOLD shows are not competition to the girls who provide the one-on-one interaction service of private and exclusive shows. Apples and oranges.

Work the site/s that work best for you, stick with them, stick to your game-plan, and rock that shit up. <3

PrincessLuna
02-21-2013, 05:02 PM
Dear Incantatious:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbgcgg7ebX1riqizno1_250.gif

MissAdriana
02-21-2013, 05:09 PM
Wow , Streamate has been a pain in the backside last few times I logged on. Tonight even more than ever. In my first hour and 15 mins I made the royal amount of $3! This has honestly never happened. And me thinking I could up my rates ... no way , its like pulling teeth in there.

But then I see people reaching $800 gold shows and makes me think , maybe it's not THAT dead ... hmmm!

You know what SM? I wont give anything for free - not from me , never! If I have to move on , I will ....

Ugh I feel ya girl I really do... I made $14 last week working more hours than ever...I hope it's just february being dead. Maybe I should lower my rates again.
In the mean time i guess I'll get to working on the content because guys have come to expect 100 videos for a $1 pledge these days

vanity6girl
02-21-2013, 05:26 PM
I have also heard the prvt. sound, while in free....no one went prvt. How weird is that? :O

Ahh the same thing happened to me!! The exclusive sound and I couldn't go exclusive, when I did the first time it said my connection was lost. The 2nd time he tried to... Wouldn't pop up... Actually that was the 3rd time

TheBrownFox
02-21-2013, 05:44 PM
Maybe I should lower my rates again.
In the mean time i guess I'll get to working on the content because guys have come to expect 100 videos for a $1 pledge these days


No, please don't lower your rates again. I think that, now more than ever, this is a really good time for us to work on our content for Clips4Sale/ExtraLunchMoney. At least when we end up with disappointing results from these cam sites, we can still be making money off content.

Incantatious
02-21-2013, 07:36 PM
Ugh I feel ya girl I really do... I made $14 last week working more hours than ever...I hope it's just february being dead. Maybe I should lower my rates again.
In the mean time i guess I'll get to working on the content because guys have come to expect 100 videos for a $1 pledge these days

That definitely isn't February being dead or guys expecting 100 vids for $1 - there has to be something wrong with your stream, placement, cam, something...

There are still girls scooping $1k+ a week (I'm not one of those, fyi! I do not put in enough hours), but it is still entirely possible for you to be one of them! And if that doesn't give you hope, the $1 - $2k a week girls are only the ones we know about.. I'm still curious as to how much the other top girls make!

Marina Starr
02-21-2013, 07:47 PM
While I agreed with you, Incantatious I have to say that in my almost two years working on SM, I have never experience so many freeloaders and trolls to the point that exhausted me physically and mentally. I don't know what's going on but it's sad.

That definitely isn't February being dead or guys expecting 100 vids for $1 - there has to be something wrong with your stream, placement, cam, something...

There are still girls scooping $1k+ a week (I'm not one of those, fyi! I do not put in enough hours), but it is still entirely possible for you to be one of them! And if that doesn't give you hope, the $1 - $2k a week girls are only the ones we know about.. I'm still curious as to how much the other top girls make!

whirlerz
02-21-2013, 08:23 PM
I love Marina Starr.

StephanieXS
02-21-2013, 08:32 PM
While I agreed with you, Incantatious I have to say that in my almost two years working on SM, I have never experience so many freeloaders and trolls to the point that exhausted me physically and mentally. I don't know what's going on but it's sad.
While there might be a lot of freeloaders right now, I feel like there must be something that's causing some girls to make nothing, because I know it's not slow all over. Or at least not $14 a week kind of slow. I've only been on SM for two months now and I'm only averaging $500 a week, but the only time I've made less than $50 in a night is when I log off after an hour. Even last night when SM was glitching like crazy I made $69 in one hour. I rarely have sincere freeloaders or trolls in my room, but I also charge 4.99/7.99. If someone is making $14 in one week they need to consider all the variables. Even when traffic is bad, there are still guys looking to spend.

Marina Starr
02-21-2013, 08:45 PM
I agreed if you're making less then $20 a week then there are other factors that come into play beside freeloaders and trolls. I am just saying personally for me, I just see it more than before.

While there might be a lot of freeloaders right now, I feel like there must be something that's causing some girls to make nothing, because I know it's not slow all over. Or at least not $14 a week kind of slow. I've only been on SM for two months now and I'm only averaging $500 a week, but the only time I've made less than $50 in a night is when I log off after an hour. Even last night when SM was glitching like crazy I made $69 in one hour. I rarely have sincere freeloaders or trolls in my room, but I also charge 4.99/7.99. If someone is making $14 in one week they need to consider all the variables. Even when traffic is bad, there are still guys looking to spend.

lewandowskaewelina
02-21-2013, 08:59 PM
i dont think streamate is going downhill !!! economy is not great, lot more cammodels each year, lot of new camsites, lots of competition, so there is a lot of factors why it might be slow for some of us.

On any cam sites u have 3 types of "members" first one ballers with lot of money who dont care what they spend on, average John few privates here and there and third one is cheap guy being cheap cause he about to be broke LOL

there is always gonna be horny man who wanna go private and get a special treatment, but mostly guys will go for a goldshows cause its cheaper, in any store u see a discount u go get it right? yeaa so gold shows feature is for the average guy to see his fav model do her thing.

I make most of my money with goldshows as well and i i dont think that goldshow made streamate custies cheap!!! U teach people how to be treated !!! right? sooo my point is that models by giving out pics and vids for really cheap doing cheaper or longer gold show taught customers the routine !!! not the goldshow feature itself !!! I did 7$ for 10min shows right from the begining to teach everyone i dont go cheaper than this. And the funny thing is that everyone has 7$ and when no one is pledging goldshow fails, but when few people start tipping out of no where everyone else is joining !!! when it rains it pours with goldshows !! and when cammodels see that no one is pledging they like i give u the videos or lower the price but its not the case !!! trust me every guy in the gold show countdown can pledge but I need to pay attention closer to what makes them pledge from the beginning !!!

Lexilexxx
02-21-2013, 10:15 PM
I don't do gold/tv shows but I agree with Sarah. I don't think these features ruined the site. I think what's negatively effecting the site is Streamate its self. There wouldn't be girls showing and fucking their pussy in free chat if SM patrolled freechat and enforced their rules. I also think that what Jane said about SM not buying traffic anymore is true. Like I said before I've noticed a difference in traffic or lack there of for a while now. Once she said that everything made sense to me. Models wouldn't be doing cheap shows and giving away a shit ton of goodies if the traffic was up to par. If the traffic was good models would be making their goals and wouldn't have or feel the need to result to doing cheap things in order to make their goal.

I use to have a lot of guys in my room and now I'm lucky if I get a couple of guys per hour. I know that its not just me because I've watched other models who were in the #1 position of the site or their category. Some were doing goldshows and had 20-80 guys in their room which is low compared to the past. I remember when there was 1000 dudes in 1 goldshow room. Others who weren't doing goldshows only had like 5-20 guys in their room. They're in the #1 position of the site or category ..they shouldn't have such low #'s in traffic.

If SM stopped buying traffic in order to fund the tv show feature then that's pretty silly. In order for a new feature to do well you still need traffic. You can't launch a new business with out traffic/advertising. Well you can but its not going to last long at all. It makes absolutely no sense to stop buying traffic or create a different marketing scheme when the past one was working. Now I see why so many of these sites went down the drain (imlive, ifriends, etc). They stopped buying traffic which resulted in their site becoming dead. You need to constantly pump traffic (quality traffic) into these types of sites in order for them to do well. In order to be able to afford traffic you need to make a profit. Us models can not make them or ourselves a profit if we don't have traffic. You can't tell me that us models(with our 35%) aren't making them a profit.

As far as all these glitches go. I'm thinking that SM doesn't have a webmaster/developer (they've had "We're hiring developers! See information in the footer..." posted on the site forever) or they don't want to/can't pay to get the issue fixed. Upgrading the server didn't work nor did requiring models to get an i7. No other site has these issues except SM. What ever the issue is SM is avoiding it like the plague. There's no other reasoning I can come up with. I don't even run a business(well expect camming) but what I've said is pretty much common sense. If I'm aware of all of these things then I know SM is as well. So I don't know why they're acting up. I really hope that SM gets it together. Get your shit together SM Please and Thank You!

I've been a top model for yrs. on Streamate, I think u hit the nail on the head. One thing I would also like to add, is the Porn Star's. Once people were allowed (by the law) to steal people's Video's and Picture sets, a lot of the Porn Stars have pretty much been out of work. I've never seen it soooo slow, people in and out and they don't even type.....whatever crap ass traffic we are getting is JUNK. It's almost like the real regulars left the website, because the poor traffic can't make up the difference in Gold Shows, so they get bored, finally PAY or go watch free porn.

Lexilexxx
02-21-2013, 10:19 PM
I've been a top model for yrs. on Streamate, I think u hit the nail on the head. One thing I would also like to add, is the Porn Star's. Once people were allowed (by the law) to steal people's Video's and Picture sets, a lot of the Porn Stars have pretty much been out of work. I've never seen it soooo slow, people in and out and they don't even type.....whatever crap ass traffic we are getting is JUNK. It's almost like the real regulars left the website, because the poor traffic can't make up the difference in Gold Shows, so they get bored, finally PAY or go watch free porn.

Gezz, I didn't explain that well....was on the phone. Anyways. the porn stars now have to do webcam to make some kind of money. It's really sad, I've done this work for 13 yrs and I've told everyone "webcam will never end" I have to wonder now. Or go start looking at other cam sites.

Blovely
02-21-2013, 10:42 PM
Great points. I agree that its good to see different point of views, angles, and having the options to speak out. That is one of the main things I like about forums and why I frequent them. I like being able to learn how others think and many times ppl will bring up things that I would've never thought about (like some of the things you mentioned in your post). Its a great way to learn new things as well as form different ways of thinking.

I do agree with you blovely and will add a few things: i am an accountant here and know things, we are here now cause they decided to change things that were working and cause gold shows changed members behavior entirely, these members spend less and if u have less money coming in ur bank account this is going to affect you, u cant buy traffic anymore. this is the biggest mistake indeed cause if there is no traffic u can make site as complex as u want (TV and all), sooner or later site will die.

Took ifriends and imlive a few years to get there and SM is following the path unfortunately. and no, they cant be happy with numbers cause if they were they would have money to fix site glitches and buy traffic. i am very much affected by the fact i trusted them and bought new pc and equipment to see after they implemented new features that are profitable to certain people only. I also saw in GS rooms regular members of mine that wont come to pvt with me anymore but join that cheap GS and spend a little.

Is the mentality that changed, a guy will think now "hmmm, why to buy a show that will cost me $100 for example when i could pay $1 for a show and get off, so what is not my favorite model i watch or i dont have model full attention, is still a hot girl with a hot body so i go for it". i dont say this is happening with all members but with a lot of them is the case, otherwise we would still have good business in our rooms, right? Not to mention all the pics and vids models give away now to members in order to have them spending in GS or private, before was not the case to do such a thing. I can only say SM was not aware of the consequences of their business plan on long term, they were happy with the GS boom at beginning but then things started to change in bad. From a good site

SM changed into a cheap site full of glitches and frustrated models AND CHEAP MEMBERS.
Ok, i dont wanna argue with people here, is not my style, i felt there was a need for a different point of view which is good cause that's democracy, to see things from different angles and have the option to speak them out, have peace!

justanothercamgirl
02-21-2013, 10:42 PM
I make most of my money with goldshows as well and i i dont think that goldshow made streamate custies cheap!!! U teach people how to be treated !!! right? sooo my point is that models by giving out pics and vids for really cheap doing cheaper or longer gold show taught customers the routine !!! not the goldshow feature itself !!!

I agree. I make most of my money on 'non-sex' gold shows. I never give out anything extra like videos or movies. If the guys try to bargain with me for a better deal I tell them if they don't like it they are welcome to pay $9.99 a minute per minute or suck it.

Most of my gold shows are $1 for 3 or 4 minutes. When guys complain they are unwilling to spend their $1 unless they get more times (or more tits or more ass) then I tell them to suck it and that if want more minutes then they can pay per minute.

And yet I still make most of my money on gold shows.

The things that make you go 'hmm.....' huh? ;)

Incantatious
02-21-2013, 11:45 PM
^ Hell yes JAC.

The past few weeks, I have started to do $1 GOLD shows that are voyeur only. - $1 buy-in, 3 - 5 mins, and a minuscule target of like $5 - $10 or so.
(This, is do when everyone is just pissing me right off, but I still need to make money and not be bored for ages in free chat when nothing is happening but bullshit freeloaders).

Once the target is reached, I get naked and then I promptly log onto Tumblr or Chatzy for the duration of the show.

justanothercamgirl
02-21-2013, 11:53 PM
Woah, wait!

You are in chatzy? How the hell have I missed you all this time? I have been wanting to talk to you in real-time FOREVER!


^ Hell yes JAC.

The past few weeks, I have started to do $1 GOLD shows that are voyeur only. - $1 buy-in, 3 - 5 mins, and a minuscule target of like $5 - $10 or so.
(This, is do when everyone is just pissing me right off, but I still need to make money and not be bored for ages in free chat when nothing is happening but bullshit freeloaders).

Once the target is reached, I get naked and then I promptly log onto Tumblr or Chatzy for the duration of the show.

Incantatious
02-22-2013, 12:11 AM
^ Eee! <3 You are a sweetheart.

Not terribly terribly often, but it has been known to happen! *_* - And I am usually always on cam / GOLD-showsing at the same time, lol.

JaneBurgess
02-22-2013, 01:10 AM
I should clarify my statements about GS ruining the site. The site was fine without GS and upgrades. GS created customers thinking they are entitled to cheap shows. When they first came out people paid 10 for a show. Now I have seen top performers that have been on the site for years doing 1 dollar shows. It also doesn't help that they give out videos and play games. Streamate is not MFC and performers need to stop doing anything to make a buck. I saw a performer selling Skype shows in a Gold show the other day. No one is watching free chat where performers are getting naked for tips. It needs to be monitored and performers breaking rules need to be banned. They also should make all Golds shows at least a buck a minute. I personally won't do Gold shows. I have zero interest in giving things out if you join. A discount on price should be good enough. All this did was create cheap customers. It like the Walmart of cam sites. The glitches also need to be addressed and fixed. Its hard to work when you keep getting kicked off or are always freezing. Customers are complaining about getting kicked out of rooms and customer service ignoring them. Traffic is down and you can't ignore the customers that you do have. That will make them leave. That's bad business.

TheBrownFox
02-22-2013, 01:12 AM
Do y'all find that it's better to A) do a super short/cheap non-toy show (like naked baby oil or whatever) like 3 Gold for 3 minutes OR B) do an 8 Gold for 8 minutes sexual show?

I've never been able to successfully do a Gold show before, and one day when I was running one (dildo show) for $8 for 8 minutes, some prick was whining that that's a little expensive. *rolls eyes* No, it ain't...lol.

JaneBurgess
02-22-2013, 01:19 AM
I have friends that do 5 bucks for 5 minutes and that seems to work.



QUOTE=TheBrownFox;2457835]Do y'all find that it's better to A) do a super short/cheap non-toy show (like naked baby oil or whatever) like 3 Gold for 3 minutes OR B) do an 8 Gold for 8 minutes sexual show?

I've never been able to successfully do a Gold show before, and one day when I was running one (dildo show) for $8 for 8 minutes, some prick was whining that that's a little expensive. *rolls eyes* No, it ain't...lol.[/QUOTE]

O2BCAMGAL
02-22-2013, 02:40 AM
OMG! Almost four weeks to get approved by Streamate! Still NOT approved. They say they are behind. I say they do not think I am hot enough! :-)

AndieG
02-22-2013, 06:53 AM
O2BCAMGAL same is happening here, 10 days and counting. That's just unfortunate, because I'm spending this time reading as much as I can about Streamate (like this whole thread!) it's making me wat to give up even before I started, lol.

Noelle_Noir
02-22-2013, 07:04 AM
I have a SM verification question.

This will be my third time submitting the paperwork and my Id for the approval process, and I am wondering EXACTLY what they want me too do.

I am sure I have done everything properly the last two times,but I can never be sure.

I think it has too do with me holding up my Id up near my face,the one I sent them is as clear as I could get it so I really do not know what I am doing wrong.

O2BCAMGAL
02-22-2013, 07:06 AM
O2BCAMGAL same is happening here, 10 days and counting. That's just unfortunate, because I'm spending this time reading as much as I can about Streamate (like this whole thread!) it's making me wat to give up even before I started, lol.

I know what your saying Andie! They have been great in communicating with me, but heck - almost four weeks is a long time. Good luck to you xx

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 07:26 AM
No, don't think like that! Have you try contacting them again?!

OMG! Almost four weeks to get approved by Streamate! Still NOT approved. They say they are behind. I say they do not think I am hot enough! :-)

justanothercamgirl
02-22-2013, 07:29 AM
And I am usually always on cam / GOLD-showsing at the same time, lol.

Me too!

Except I live in chatzy practically. I don't think I would make it through a shift without the support of the awesome women there. :)

AndieG
02-22-2013, 07:57 AM
No, don't think like that! Have you try contacting them again?!

Marina, I don't know about O2BCAMGAL, but I have written the support and they just answered that they're backlogged. Yesterday I wrote to Vanessa also, after finding some info on her around here, but still no answer. Let's see how it goes, I just hope it doesn't take four weeks or else I might not even give it a try, since I'm already hustling other sites, you know? ;)

justanothercamgirl
02-22-2013, 08:02 AM
Marina, I don't know about O2BCAMGAL, but I have written the support and they just answered that they're backlogged. Yesterday I wrote to Vanessa also, after finding some info on her around here, but still no answer. Let's see how it goes, I just hope it doesn't take four weeks or else I might not even give it a try, since I'm already hustling other sites, you know? ;)

I hope you get an answer from Vanesa soon. It really sucks that you are waiting forever. I know when I signed up with SM it took me A MONTH till they were happy with my hoop jumping. :-\

O2BCAMGAL
02-22-2013, 08:12 AM
No, don't think like that! Have you try contacting them again?!

Yes, quite a few times, with the same response in that they are busy. Oh well, I will just continue reading stripperweb :-)

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 08:15 AM
I hope you get approved SOON! I'm sure they are getting tons of applications.

Yes, quite a few times, with the same response in that they are busy. Oh well, I will just continue reading stripperweb :-)

O2BCAMGAL
02-22-2013, 08:17 AM
Thanks Marina! xx

CamGirl4M
02-22-2013, 08:59 AM
Can anyone tell me when your ACH usually comes through from Payoneer? I thought it would be in there today, and it's not showing up yet. If it doesn't come on Fridays, I might as well go back to checks in the mail as I usually get my check on Mondays.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 09:01 AM
I always get an e-mail from Payoneer on Friday and the $$$ will show up in my bank account on Tuesday.

Can anyone tell me when your ACH usually comes through from Payoneer? I thought it would be in there today, and it's not showing up yet. If it doesn't come on Fridays, I might as well go back to checks in the mail as I usually get my check on Mondays.

CamGirl4M
02-22-2013, 09:09 AM
Thanks, Marina! Wish I would have known that it doesn't show up in the account right away. Right now I get my check on Monday and I use the iPhone app for my bank to deposit the check and have the money on Tuesday. Guess it saves me that trouble plus waiting for any Monday post office holidays.


I always get an e-mail from Payoneer on Friday and the $$$ will show up in my bank account on Tuesday.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 09:12 AM
I chose Payoneer direct deposit because I didn't want someone at my house getting the mail and see Streamate on it. For my peace of mind, it's worth it!

Thanks, Marina! Wish I would have known that it doesn't show up in the account right away. Right now I get my check on Monday and I use the iPhone app for my bank to deposit the check and have the money on Tuesday. Guess it saves me that trouble plus waiting for any Monday post office holidays.

OJenni!
02-22-2013, 09:53 AM
Has anyone received their payoneer payment yet? Sorry I did not want to start a new thread on this.