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Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 10:03 AM
I got mine on Wednesday bc Monday was a holiday!

Has anyone received their payoneer payment yet? Sorry I did not want to start a new thread on this.

OJenni!
02-22-2013, 10:09 AM
I got mine on Wednesday bc Monday was a holiday!

Um payoneer is usually on friday? Are you sure you are not talking about checks?

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 10:11 AM
I get direct deposit!

Um payoneer is usually on friday? Are you sure you are not talking about checks?

OJenni!
02-22-2013, 10:16 AM
I get direct deposit!

From payoneer or streamate?

streamate does their payoneer payments on friday.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 10:18 AM
From Payoneer!

From payoneer or streamate?

streamate does their payoneer payments on friday.

AliceFun
02-22-2013, 10:18 AM
I dont have the money in my payoneer account either, hope there are no problems as i normally get them a bit earlier every friday.

OJenni!
02-22-2013, 10:20 AM
From Payoneer!

Oh you are talking about their direct deposit service.

I am talking about streamate to payoneer transfers. That happens Fridays. Meaning they were supposed to go in to my payoneer today.

bellamaria
02-22-2013, 10:28 AM
hi yes im on streamates as well and have not received payment i also sent them an email and waiting hopefully they will respond soon.

GlamourRouge
02-22-2013, 10:29 AM
From Payoneer!

How is that even possible? It goes through Payoneer, so it could only start the bank transfer process when your Payoneer card is supposed to be loaded, which would be on a Friday for Streamate. Then, it would take at least 2-4 additional business days from that date to deposit into your bank account, right? But even then, you are implying you usually get it earlier than Wednesday? Are you talking about payment from the week before?

This was not how it was explained to me when I inquired about it.

bellamaria
02-22-2013, 10:30 AM
ok girls i just checked my payoneer card and i got paid thank god!

AliceFun
02-22-2013, 10:49 AM
ok girls i just checked my payoneer card and i got paid thank god!

got paid too just now, yay! was worried tho

sexyred
02-22-2013, 10:53 AM
I want to add a little positivity to this thread. I started on SM over a year ago, and was for the most part, against gold shows. Honestly, it's mostly been out of fear that I would lose my good customers that already pay my fairly high rates (currently 5.49/6.99). But as we all know, things have been slower this month and I'm working more to make the same amount. After discussing it with my boyfriend, we decided I should TRY gold shows. One, because girls do make money off of them and two, because I'm getting more serious with my boyfriend and gold shows seem less intimate and require less effort "keeping" regulars around.

So I started them on Monday, and I am hooked. I'm doing a low goal til I get the hang of them more, but guys always join after the show has started so I make more than the goal. $99 Goal, $5 for 7 minutes and it's working well. I've only not made the goal twice (and one of those was a TV show, so I got paid anyway). I also do not start the show until I've made the full goal, don't offer incentives and will only restart it one time and raise the rate to $6 for 8 minutes. Furthermore, I got offered two TV shows for the first time and I felt like the producers were really nice and helpful during it (reminding me about volume and stuff).

I don't think my income has increased since starting gold shows yet, but I feel like I'm making the same with less work. My regulars are still taking me exclusive and private because they are paying for that one-on-one interaction. So maybe GSs aren't for everybody but I also don't think it's them that are ruining the site. Camming is like everything else, you have to evolve with it and the way it is moving. I also agree that there is something wrong if you are only making $14 a week. That's just not possible, please check your cammodels link and make sure people can see and hear you.

TheBrownFox
02-22-2013, 11:34 AM
That's awesome, sexyred. :)

I am definitely in favor of the idea of raising the Gold show price by a dollar if you have to restart, as opposed to lowering the price by a dollar if you restart. I feel that if you make a habit of lowering it every time you restart, guys will intentionally sit around and wait for you to get it as low as possible. And I can only imagine the type of guys $1 shows would attract.

I've seen a lot of models use the 'I'm gonna ask guys what I should charge, and then if I restart I'll lower the price' method, and then they throw in a bunch of incentives (several vids, tits out at 50, etc.), and the goal is still not being reached.

I like sexyred's way of doing it. They're already getting a great deal with the Gold show itself. And what does the highest tipper get? The satisfaction of knowing he's the highest tipper, of course! LOL.

MissAdriana
02-22-2013, 12:36 PM
That definitely isn't February being dead or guys expecting 100 vids for $1 - there has to be something wrong with your stream, placement, cam, something...
There are still girls scooping $1k+ a week (I'm not one of those, fyi! I do not put in enough hours), but it is still entirely possible for you to be one of them! And if that doesn't give you hope, the $1 - $2k a week girls are only the ones we know about.. I'm still curious as to how much the other top girls make!

Yep there definitely is. My stream is not great. And my placement sucks. I need a new computer so I can stream better, but alas I can't afford it atm. I have a logitech c920 and a wired connection, my lighting is good and all that but my computer is definitely not up to par. But up until Jan/Feb -with this shitty ass comp- I had been making in the 300/week range give or take depending on my hours worked. So for me now that I'm able to work more hours, but not even make anywhere near what I had the previous months- just plain frustrating.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 01:06 PM
Payment from the week before. I don't have a Payoneer card. I only use Payoneer for direct deposite from Streamate payment to Payoneer to my checking account. Every Friday I get an email from Payoneer saying my payment from Streamate will be in my account 2-3 business days and it always show up on Tuesday unless there's a holiday. I hope this clears any confusion!

How is that even possible? It goes through Payoneer, so it could only start the bank transfer process when your Payoneer card is supposed to be loaded, which would be on a Friday for Streamate. Then, it would take at least 2-4 additional business days from that date to deposit into your bank account, right? But even then, you are implying you usually get it earlier than Wednesday? Are you talking about payment from the week before?

This was not how it was explained to me when I inquired about it.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 03:09 PM
I've been reading so many different things regarding placement and traffic and I'm a bit confused as to what really determines your traffic and placement. I don't log on consistently. I cam whenever I have time or feel like it. I do cam using the Encoder and my placement is always at the first row and almost always at the number one spot. Sometimes I cam without using the Encoder and I get more traffic, make more money.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 03:38 PM
I'm under the Transsexual category and SM doesn't allow us to be on first page. I'm checking myself through my customer account.

Maybe you are checking yourself your own category?=)

No, I´m not gonna say do not get new products ..=) If somebody planning to get new computer or camera, wow, it´s good (!) =) I mean if you are expecting really big results with new computer in SM, mmm, maybe you will gonna be disapointed, a little bit. Maybe it helps, but not so much. If the site is based the money you´ll make, it´s lagging when you are not getting any tips, Gold shows or pvts.. Technically, it´s very interesting what kind of computers and cameras SM recommend or what kind of products is the best..

whirlerz
02-22-2013, 04:07 PM
I'm under the Transsexual category and SM doesn't allow us to be on first page. I'm checking myself through my customer account.

Sounds like Discrimination to me! WTF?!

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 04:26 PM
It's kinda sad but I can see where Streamate is coming from. It doesn't make it right. I think they just don't want custies to get freaked out and run. I don't feel less than because of it. I am unique, different and special. A novelty unlike any other!

Sounds like Discrimination to me! WTF?!

JaneBurgess
02-22-2013, 04:31 PM
I get paid every Friday by noon MT. I haven't ever had an issue with payments.




Can anyone tell me when your ACH usually comes through from Payoneer? I thought it would be in there today, and it's not showing up yet. If it doesn't come on Fridays, I might as well go back to checks in the mail as I usually get my check on Mondays.

JaneBurgess
02-22-2013, 04:35 PM
I was told it's based on how many hours you are logged in. I took a break from there for a few months and now I am on page two or three. They said you have to earn your way back to page one.




I've been reading so many different things regarding placement and traffic and I'm a bit confused as to what really determines your traffic and placement. I don't log on consistently. I cam whenever I have time or feel like it. I do cam using the Encoder and my placement is always at the first row and almost always at the number one spot. Sometimes I cam without using the Encoder and I get more traffic, make more money.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 04:38 PM
Thank you! I'm not really worry about it. I work when I feel like it.

PS-I highly enjoy reading your posts here. You should get more 'thanks' than that :)



I was told it's based on how many hours you are logged in. I took a break from there for a few months and now I am on page two or three. They said you have to earn your way back to page one.

CamGirl4M
02-22-2013, 04:39 PM
Well, I have no email from Payoneer and no payment in my account either and it's almost 5pm MST


I get paid every Friday by noon MT. I haven't ever had an issue with payments.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 04:41 PM
Just to clarify, did you sign up for a Payoneer debit card or Payoneer direct deposit?

Well, I have no email from Payoneer and no payment in my account either and it's almost 5pm MST

CamGirl4M
02-22-2013, 04:58 PM
^^Direct Deposit/ACH, Marina. I verified all my account info with them yesterday.

justanothercamgirl
02-22-2013, 05:17 PM
I'm under the Transsexual category and SM doesn't allow us to be on first page.

WTF!?! I didn't know that! What fucking bullshit!

I am so sorry that you have to deal with such close-minded people in this world. It really hurts my heart. :(

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 05:25 PM
You're sweet, thank you! That's why the amount of traffic I get will never be equal to mainstream models.

WTF!?! I didn't know that! What fucking bullshit!

I am so sorry that you have to deal with such close-minded people in this world. It really hurts my heart. :(

space_cowgirl
02-22-2013, 05:48 PM
Agreed that it is complete bullshit.

StephanieXS
02-22-2013, 06:05 PM
You're sweet, thank you! That's why the amount of traffic I get will never be equal to mainstream models.

Wouldn't TS girls never get equal traffic because even if they could be on the front page men aren't looking for that? Idk. I'm assuming you're pre-op, right? I love you Marina, I think you're amazing and I respect you alot. I just feel like even if they did allow TS girls on the front page the majority of guys on SM would pass them up anyway unless they logged in specifically looking for TS? I hope this doesn't sound mean, cuz that's not what I'm trying to say at all.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 06:32 PM
Actually a lot of men are into TS girls but not as many as manstream so in that aspect you are right. I am a novelty, a niche so my traffic will not be as high as a regular model who is more mainstream, TS or not. However, I feel SM doesn't allow TS girls to be on front page due to the fear of freaking custies out and they'd run for the hill, LOL! There's still a lot of stigma when it comes to transsexual, it's very taboo.
I understood what you're saying and you're not being mean at all :)


Wouldn't TS girls never get equal traffic because even if they could be on the front page men aren't looking for that? Idk. I'm assuming you're pre-op, right? I love you Marina, I think you're amazing and I respect you alot. I just feel like even if they did allow TS girls on the front page the majority of guys on SM would pass them up anyway unless they logged in specifically looking for TS? I hope this doesn't sound mean, cuz that's not what I'm trying to say at all.

~Carmen~
02-22-2013, 07:26 PM
I kind of have a little fetish for TS girls myself. And I'm a woman...shhh don't tell anybody}:D

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 07:27 PM
What's not to love about us? LOL. Not to brag but I get hit on all day long :)

I kind of have a little fetish for TS girls myself. And I'm a woman...shhh don't tell anybody}:D

whirlerz
02-22-2013, 07:47 PM
Luvs Marina

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 07:49 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/tumblr_m3z7h9JtFp1qmktazo1_500_zps87fdf133.gif

Luvs Marina

JaneBurgess
02-22-2013, 08:04 PM
That is bullshit I have two good friends on there under the TS section. Both are amazing performers and it sucks they don't get the same traffic.




I'm under the Transsexual category and SM doesn't allow us to be on first page. I'm checking myself through my customer account.

JaneBurgess
02-22-2013, 08:05 PM
CS seems to think the issues we experience are caused by us, not the site They even suggested it's our internet provider. I use Cox Communications with an upload speed around 14 mgbs. Who do you use? Perhaps we can figure this tech stuff out on our own.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 08:08 PM
I have Comcast and my upload speed is almost 4MBPS. I don't have much lagging issues except for last night when tons of models were lagging.

CS seems to think the issues we experience are caused by us, not the site They even suggested it's our internet provider. I use Cox Communications with an upload speed around 14 mgbs. Who do you use? Perhaps we can figure this tech stuff out on our own.

GlamourRouge
02-22-2013, 08:20 PM
One of my ex-sugardaddies was obsessed with T-girls, latex, and caked on makeup. Theres a huge spendy niche for them.

You should visit AsiaSF if you're ever in San Francisco. Its a restaurant & bar where Tgirls perform on the bar. Its cute.

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 08:22 PM
O.M.G! I love San Francisco. I want to move there one day. I don't do latex or caked on makeup :)

One of my ex-sugardaddies was obsessed with T-girls, latex, and caked on makeup. Theres a huge spendy niche for them. You should visit AsiaSF if you're ever in San Francisco.

whirlerz
02-22-2013, 08:25 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/tumblr_m3z7h9JtFp1qmktazo1_500_zps87fdf133.gif

:'(:-*

JaneBurgess
02-22-2013, 08:29 PM
They also said our FPS should be between 20-30. If it's under that then you need a new camera.

whirlerz
02-22-2013, 08:34 PM
They also said our FPS should be between 20-30. If it's under that then you need a new camera.

Shoot Idk what mine is..

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 08:35 PM
What is FPS?

Shoot Idk what mine is..

PrincessLuna
02-22-2013, 08:59 PM
What is FPS?

"Frames per second"

Marina Starr
02-22-2013, 09:01 PM
Where is FPS at and how do I find it? I feel so ignorant.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/vqlhtk_zps1c471a7c.gif

"Frames per second"

PrincessLuna
02-22-2013, 09:02 PM
In the encoder it's under "Frame rate" on the far left hand side.

AliceFun
02-22-2013, 09:05 PM
What is FPS?
Means Frames Per Second, u can check ur camera settings how many frames per second supports at maximum, if u have 30 frames per second u are able to run the encoder with recommended settings as they require 29.97 FPS.
Some of you may find ur FPS are set lower than 30 on camera software so u get a conflict between what ur camera provides and what encoder requires.

SarahTime
02-22-2013, 09:16 PM
Reading ur posts here i feel u are alot in love with SM staff/ have connections and defend them often when others criticize them and i fully understand you cause they help u alot with promoting u and such, let's face it, but u see, i dont talk about top models banking with GS, i talk about all models in general and site as a whole. Pls dont get offended by my comments but i had to make a few things clear here, thank you!

I like SM very much, I think that is obvious. I think it's a great site with great traffic, the best site I have worked on.

HOWEVER, I receive absolutely zero special treatment from the site or the staff. They do not promote me any more than they promote any other performer. I also don't defend the site or anyone who works for the site, I simply express my own personal opinions and what I view personally as common sense. I can see that sometimes that comes off as "defending" the site, but again it is not my intention to defend the site per se, but to give a different opinion.

And I am not offended by your comments at all, but I do feel that I needed to make it clear that just because I believe SM to be a great website to work on, does not mean I get any sort of special treatment.

I am a "take charge" type of person so if I have an issue I go straight to the person I know I will get results from... so if you see me talking about communicating with Liz or Shawn or anyone else "higher up", please know that I took it upon MYSELF to make contacts with them. Anyone else can do the same, if they want to.

BrightAndClaire
02-22-2013, 09:35 PM
Maybe the curse is broken? Tonight was awesome for me. A couple of glitches when guys were going cam2cam, but those seemed to resolve themselves quickly, and I got a lot of regulars showing up and a lot of really nice guys who may become future regulars. And I'm on the first page of my category, near the top!!

My favorite guy showed up, the one who takes me to exclusive so I can do a naked poetry recitation--and he ALWAYS picks something really long for me to read.

Izna Marcos
02-22-2013, 10:19 PM
So I just found this place, it's wonderful, you ladies are AWESOME!

So my story. I started on Chaturbate about a month ago. I tried it for almost a solid week. I made hardly anything. So is desperation and about to give up i logged on one last time. I danced my ass off for like 4 hours to music, actually turned it into a strip show. I had a really good time. Was a free workout! But as the end I was really saddened. I made like 320 tokens. Which is hardly anything. This is my full time job as of this year. I want this to work. So I've taken time off, talked and researched, ended up here.So I have now signed up for Streammate tonight, i'm awaiting approval.

I need any helpful advice on how to make money. I don't mind nudity. I just won't do it in public chats. I am really serious about this being my full time job. It's actually my dream job but i really got discouraged from Chaturbate. I do have an account at LJ but all the guys there only want short little private shows and LJ doesn't pay weekly.

I know i can setup a schedule and have like dancing show nights and such. But i need to know what will make it interesting the rest of the time. I chat, flirt and tease but at least on Chaturbate I hardly got any private shows. I don't want this happening again.

Please HELP!