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IvyAdams
03-16-2016, 01:22 PM
I have had the glitches, showing offline when I am online, majorly freezing, and I have seen a decrease in money made. I do NOT log out. I stay logged in every day, no matter what, I have to, I unfortunately don't have the freedom to just hop online every min of every day to make up for it. I wish I could.. and I am sure there are a lot of us that can't just keep getting online at all hours! SM just needs to fix their shit
...or if time is an issue, you could figure out how to maximize your earnings in multiple ways so that when Streamate is glitchy, it isn't the end of the world. Make clips and sell them so you are creating passive income while you're struggling through the glitches. Build a social media presence so that your brand is in demand. FIND A DIFFERENT SITE. Adapt. Hustle. Don't depend on Streamate to be your sole source of income. Telling Streamate to fix their shit over and over is the equivalent of being on a rocking horse. You can do it all day long, and you'll still be in the exact spot you were when you started.
Sally Says
03-16-2016, 04:07 PM
Feast and famine, this happens in all lines of self employment (hell, all business!) my partner is also self employed and he has times when he is fighting so hard for work and then other times when there's not enough hours in the day to work
leiaswift
03-16-2016, 05:06 PM
ATTN: New page in the model's panel "TOPSPOT GOLD SHOWS"
Opt-in
Check "Opt-in" below to be considered for TopSpot Gold Shows. By choosing to opt-in, you agree to all of the rules of TopSpot Shows below. Breaking any TopSpot rule may cause your show to be canceled before earnings are collected. You may also stop seeing TopSpot Gold Show requests.
Guaranteed Goal
All TopSpot Gold Show requests contain a guaranteed minimum goal. When the show is completed, if your total pledges (earned in both the pre-show and during the show) are lower than the guaranteed minimum goal, you'll automatically be paid the difference. This automatic adjustment will show up in your earnings as "Compensation" from "Producer" and may take a few hours to arrive.
Because you have a guaranteed goal, the TopSpot show will always begin immediately after the pre-show.
Rules
To be eligible for a TopSpot show, you must follow these requirements:
Party Chat: You must be streaming in Party Chat. To make this your default chat setting, go to the streaming page and click the "Settings" tab at the top. Under "Default chat type mode," select "Party Chat."
Free Chat: You must have Free Chat (no credit card required) enabled. To make sure this is on, go to the streaming page and click the "Settings" tab at the top. Under "Allow Free Chat," select "Yes."
Audio and Video Quality: You must have audio on to be considered for a show. Your audio and video quality and must meet our requirements.
No Music: Music is not allowed. Please turn off all music as soon as you receive a TopSpot Gold Show request.
Follow All Site Rules: Shows must strictly follow the Streamate Code of Conduct. Your show should not contain animals, banned content, banned phrases, illegal substances, or any other content that isn't allowed. Failing to meet these rules could cancel your show or revoke your TopSpot eligibility.
TopSpot Show Requests
TopSpot Gold Shows can only be started by producer request. Here's what you can expect if a show is requested:
Request: TopSpot requests will only show up when you are not in a paid session, or are in a Gold pre-show. Accepting a TopSpot show will cancel that pre-show and will start the new pre-show for the TopSpot show. TopSpot requests are timed and must be accepted before the request expires.
Accepting Requests: The number values in your request are based on averages for your past successful Gold Shows. These numbers are non-negotiable and can't be changed. Accepting the show as-is will use the last room topic you entered (if cookied). You can also accept with the ability to change your topic. Once your topic has been submitted successfully, your pre-show will start. After the TopSpot show is accepted, timers will generally force start actions if not acted upon.
Declining Requests: You can decline a producer request, but be aware that another request won’t be sent for a specific time period afterwards. If you decline often enough, producers may stop sending requests. Feel free to opt-out anytime you aren't streaming if you don't want to see requests.
Canceled Shows: TopSpot Gold Shows start automatically when the pre-show ends and can't be canceled. If you stop streaming during a TopSpot pre-show or show, the show will end and earnings will not be collected. If shows are ended this way too often, producers may stop sending TopSpot requests.
Warnings
During the pre-show, if the producer notices you are breaking any TopSpot rules, they may ask you to make changes before the show begins. Follow the producer instructions to make sure the show follows all TopSpot rules.
If you break any rules during the live show, you may see warnings from your producer or the show may be canceled immediately. Depending on the violation, you may stop seeing TopSpot Gold Show requests.
Issabelle
03-16-2016, 05:11 PM
Kinda sounds like exactly the same thing as the old TV Gold Shows, but without the TV bit and with a lot more subtle bitching directed at models who argue that they're being low-balled on these shows. Seems like instead of TV, they're making it clear (without saying it) that these shows are being recorded for affiliate use.
xxtinamariexx
03-16-2016, 05:52 PM
Thank you for the advice Ivy, I am trying to do all that :( I do work other sites.. so thankfully SM isn't all I have. Just wish I could bring in what I use to! ;)
Erika_Xstacy
03-16-2016, 07:50 PM
Kinda sounds like exactly the same thing as the old TV Gold Shows, but without the TV bit and with a lot more subtle bitching directed at models who argue that they're being low-balled on these shows. Seems like instead of TV, they're making it clear (without saying it) that these shows are being recorded for affiliate use.
most of us use a live banner of gold shows. We cant get specific shows from models. There is also a vine type video we use, recorded
BUT
with that said all models sign up and not reading or understanding that any and all content used on streamate is their property to use for such thing as advertising to bring customers to the models to then give a return to the affiliates that work their asses off to get and sometimes buy traffic for the site. :D
I had opted out bc of the low ball and now wonder if its the same turn out as TV.
Erika_Xstacy
03-16-2016, 07:55 PM
I'll be honest, SM hasn't been slow for me Ging. Hasn't been slow for most of the girls I talk to either. I mean, sure, there are bad shifts and slow days, but by and large girls are still making their goals by putting in the hours.
You've got the placement and I watched you a lot when I was a newbie. To be totally frank, I haven't seen you online much anymore. I know you're busy with school and family, but regularity is the name of the game and I just don't see you on very much.
Gold shows aren't bringing in $300+ a show anymore for most models and if you aren't online frequently (20+ per week, at least), your high tippers are going to find other models to spend on. You've indicated before in prior posts that you aren't comfortable doing privates/exclusives, but there is a hell of a lot more money in privates--especially fetish--than in gold shows now that the novelty of them is starting to wear off. Gold shows these days are more a way to entice new customers into spending on per-minute shows later on than they are stable income when you have limited hours to cultivate regulars.
I make more in privates doing classic. Coming from a chic that hates classic chat, despise it but one day I clicked it and I swear to god its like a different type of member.
When I go back to party, the same annoying assholes pop up and hang out. I get annoyed, go back to classic and stay in private. I would ALMOST SWEAR its a different pool of members
Erika_Xstacy
03-16-2016, 08:04 PM
hey guys... im feeling really bummed out about sm lately... for the past 2 or 3 weeks its been slowish for me. i dont know what it is.. guys just dont tip anymore...
im crying right now cause im wondering if its me.. maybe i need to change something up.. maybe im not as into camming anymore as i use to be.. i dunno. :(
has it been slow on sm at all? i use to do so well and ever since i started school not so much
here you are, I read the forum pages backwards
i needed someone last week for this
hugs bb
its not just you or any model, its the traffic. its not you, Do not loose your fire.
Last week I didn't crack 1 k and I worked 6 days, I wanted to cry bc I pulled mad hours too.
Its spring break,Highschool kids are home, the sun is shining, its running in the 80s in NC and VA. People are packing into the beach, I live here and see the difference. I have talked to multiple fans that are on vacation
I started doing classic and surprise.. I do much better than trying to hold goldshows. Its scary bc we cant really control our income but its good income.
Keep ur head up and nose in those books
gingerstcyr
03-16-2016, 08:05 PM
If we were not always working I would love to take you to lunch some time. :)
So this is meant to be a positive message to Streamate that's why i put it here: now that i have 8GB RAM into my system u showing me your love Streamate?! :))
Please put a note in the dash board of our accounts, a BIG RED NOTE to see, tell us we need AT LEAST 8GB RAM to run our PC's in true HD! Call it SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS, make it visible.
I was not aware of the system requirements for HD720 because u did not provide ur site rep with the info when she offered us the new settings but hey, NEVER TOO LATE to find out and turn things right here, after 10 damn months!!
I am happy cause my room WORKS PROPERLY!! when site it's working it's working GOOD :)))
I always knew it was not me but YOU!
Please inform your models about system and connection requirements in order to stream in HD, make it visible in bold letters in dash board cause a lot of new models have no clue where to look for the info ok? If u hide it somewhere on the Help section there people are not going to find the info that easy.
I still LOVE YOU when u good to me, watch out not to screw things up again for the next big thing u going to implement OK ??!! :P :)))
Happy dance here!!!
pixiepower329
03-16-2016, 08:55 PM
I've just steadily watched my income dwindle down in the past month. Was averaging 800-1000 week working 25-30 hours, so not top model income, but still a good solid earning. Last week, I clocked 28 hours and made 430. So far this week, I'm sitting at 20 hours and I've made 126. I've played with rates, changed my look around, played with time of day while keeping my normal "good hours". Nothing seems to be working. Its like everything is just falling apart for me right now.
MistressX
03-16-2016, 09:14 PM
I'm gonna try this!^
imelly21
03-17-2016, 07:24 AM
about the party chat versus classic chat I have noticed a difference in member's behavior too..
is it possible that we are advertised on different style ( more private focused) sites while in classic chat?
@Melly -> Dont think so LOL cause u can anytime switch the session type u working with.
Here i really am in the position to give precise information regarding these two type of chats -> In Party chat u attract the guys who look for Gold Shows PLUS beggars, trolls, cheap guys, they take advantage of the fact that is an 'open to all to see what everyone's typing to you' while in classic it's You only (with a few exceptions) who see their text and can ban the abusers in silence.
I consider Party chat to be a magnet for beggars, cheapos & trolls, they dont come often when in Classic cause they know they cant really harm much. So in Classic chat u get the guys who are interested in private/ exclusive shows, the "quality members" so to say.
I cam in Classic chat & sell my shows (vanilla, fetish, etc). If i go to Party chat i get the ones i mentioned above, they come like hawks lol, NO Thank You, i wanna have control over my room and clientele.
This is me, other models run their rooms differently.
P.S: have u managed to work the camera settings? Sorry i could not be here to help more but i had to get off pc & lay down a few hrs (took a nap :) ).
What i use for lighting is: 2 desk lamps on my right and left plus another floor lamp, a mix of daylight bulbs and warm bulbs, also a blue bulb at my back on the wall, the effect is amazing, sorry i cant post pictures here in public chat *wink*.
I have the c920 camera on auto mode for everything except White balance and this because i move the cam when in a show and switch on another lamp i have here on a small table so it has to be set to *Right Light* otherwise it messes up with the stream/picture quality.
Now i read these automatic settings put a load on the CPU... i take these into consideration now regarding splitcamming, if i untick the boxes and do the settings like audri showed us in her thread i might pus less effort on my CPU & maybe (i hope) i can splitcam using less system resources than now.
Will have to test these all.
So tell me/us about ur findings with the contrast issue xx (i never doubted u know to work the settings by the way, just wanted to mention that is the slider who creates the contrast but the contrast effect is also connected to the lighting in the room plus that flickering thing is also a specific frequency setting to take into consideration, still puzzled why for me it shows as PAL-B by default ....
xx
Also i noticed the new traffic on SM is different somehow, a lot of demanding guys and crazy requests lately but guess what? They spend! I was about to kick some guys out of my room cause of the way they asked for things in free chat but then when i asked to be taken pvt/ excl. they came in, they took me by surprise!!
So dont rush to kick them out cause they good spenders, not sure where SM gets the new traffic from but these guys do spend thank god! ;)
imelly21
03-17-2016, 11:49 AM
@KatM, thank u for all the details , its nice of u
I tried to send u a prv msg a few days back, I guess u have those blocked?
BTW I set the anti flicker OFF, seems to help with the gain, its not moving to the left ( less) much... or at all...
I chose classic chat today to see if I can push for more privates... was a bit lucky, not much..day time the traffic is not as good, thats butttom line and I cant spend nights (much or at all)
^^^ Let me add u as a contact melly xxx :)
You can PM me now :)
amanda121
03-18-2016, 06:27 PM
I'm camming again on SM after a longer pause (couple of months) and on the first day back, some guy rated me 1 star because Firefox crashed in the middle of pvt. Because of that my rating fell to 3 stars and my placement tanked (on the same day, before this rating, I was on page 3). When I last chcked after 1 star rating I was on 10th page. I've got seven 5-star ratings after that, but "my ranking" tool still shows 3 stars 7 days after that. I have like 1 person in room every 2 hours! So now I have eight ratings in the past 90 days, seven 5 stars and one 1 star and when gets this usually updated?
Chellyinparadise
03-18-2016, 07:33 PM
They get updated in 24 hours usually but the 5 stars only count 1 per day per customer so if one guy rated you more than once it wont show his additional 5 stars for that day only 1 from them. I dont know if thats the case or not just letting you know incase it was that way.Hope this helps.
bellestocking
03-18-2016, 10:50 PM
I'm probably retreading old ground, but has anyone notice a difference in placement using SM broadcaster vs. Adobe flash media encoder that was independent of other factors like framerate, bit rate, etc.?
Issabelle
03-19-2016, 12:54 AM
I'm still using the FMLE myself (hate the broadcaster with a passion) and my placement in the top few rows hasn't budged any. My understanding from SM is that the placement bonus is just for using HD720 settings with either encoding system. That may change when the broadcaster comes out of beta testing though.
QueerCrip
03-19-2016, 01:09 AM
I just did my first Streamate show ever tonight! Woohoo! I'd been really struggling with my public shows, and I was hoping this would be better for me and was cautiously optimistic. I made way more than I ever have yet on public so I hope this isn't a newbies luck fluke. I was on for 1hr 45 min and made $55.68. I had a 24 min exclusive chat at 5.99. He seemed content and got a bit of gold tips from others.
The only bad was that I fucked up and didn't realize that a private had actually gone into private chat because I didn't get a popup "accept" button like the exclusive or like I'm used to seeing on other sites. So I feel really bad cuz this person went into private and I did nothing for them. I'm scared about this affecting my ratings. :( To confirm, basically any time I see someone "log on" in the private chat box that means I've got private? Sorry, I know it's a stupid question.
Overall I can't wait to get on again though.
QueerCrip
03-19-2016, 01:20 AM
The only bad was that I fucked up and didn't realize that a private had actually gone into private chat because I didn't get a popup "accept" button like the exclusive or like I'm used to seeing on other sites. So I feel really bad cuz this person went into private and I did nothing for them. I'm scared about this affecting my ratings.
Also, there isn't any way I can message this person to apologize is there? They stayed for a whole two minutes bless their soul.
DeepThoughts
03-19-2016, 01:22 AM
Congratulations! Yes when a client goes to Private it makes a noise so its good to have sound on if you can and the red bar at the top of your chat window that says "Paid Chat-All" will drop down to reveal a new chat window under it. There will also be a flashing light on the left hand side of the bar next to the icon that resembles three people crowded together. If you finish a Private or Exclusive chat then you can re-close the "Paid Chat" window by clicking on the red bar. That way when a new client comes to private you know immediately because the chat opens up.
I know its confusing to read it but you will get the hang of it.
Also if you click on your earnings then click on details you will see the clients who spend on you. If that guy who took you private spent any money in Private his username and what he spent will show up. You can click on his user name and leave a note on his account that this is the guy who took you prvt. but you didnt notice. Then if you see him again you can apologize and explain that you are new and didnt understand the system yet. He would probably love it.
I'm still using the FMLE myself (hate the broadcaster with a passion) and my placement in the top few rows hasn't budged any. My understanding from SM is that the placement bonus is just for using HD720 settings with either encoding system. That may change when the broadcaster comes out of beta testing though.
If it's in Beta testing still who is testing it lol if many of us keep camming with the FMLE?
Going to get on cam here now & dont know which one to pick to work with?!
I been disconnected when cammed with SMB but then it could have been my internet 2 nights ago?! xx
QueerCrip
03-19-2016, 01:31 AM
Thanks so much DeepThoughts. I think I need to adjust my settings so that every time a new guest chat member logs in our out it doesn't ding, hence the reason I turned my sound off. It wouldn't let me go to the settings tab to look for this option while I was streaming. Also, because the HD Coder takes up like 3/4 of my screen (I can't get it smaller), the other part is so small I have to scroll back and forth and I couldn't see the red light on the right hand side as I was reading the guest chats. Also the private box was open the whole time I believe. GR! Oh well.
DeepThoughts
03-19-2016, 02:17 AM
^^^How big is your computer screen? You should try shrinking the Window your chat is in down and move it to left side hiding all the useless stuff on that side of the screen.
QueerCrip
03-19-2016, 02:49 AM
It's 15.6". I just made the Encoder as small as I could, moved it to the left and snapped Streamate to the right to fill the remainder. I admittedly never thought to try overlap it (duh!). Will experiment tomorrow. I'm also partially just still getting used to this computer as I've had it just under two weeks.
DeepThoughts
03-19-2016, 05:30 AM
This is My set up if it helps any.
http://i.imgur.com/HwpEa8l.png
Selenasecret
03-19-2016, 05:45 AM
Hopefully a change a pattern today is going to help get back into SM. Saturday nights are dead for me so going to try afternoon into evening.
Selenasecret
03-19-2016, 12:27 PM
Its deader than my hubbies dick on his heart medication
emma383
03-19-2016, 12:42 PM
Its deader than my hubbies dick on his heart medication
Wait, that sounds like my husband. Just to be sure does he also have a tattoo on his d**k that says "suck here'?
Selenasecret
03-19-2016, 01:01 PM
Lol he has Gn on his. "grows when shaken" when hard lol I cant wait till the Dr gives his the all clear.
BigCutieZelda
03-19-2016, 02:41 PM
What percentage do the models keep on SM? I've been on the same camsites for years and I've finally decided to step out of my comfort zone and look for something with higher traffic. I have been considering MFC, but I heard SM is a bit more simplistic.
QueerCrip
03-19-2016, 02:49 PM
They keep 35% BigCutieZelda.
Selenasecret
03-19-2016, 02:50 PM
Unless easten euro 30%
BigCutieZelda
03-19-2016, 02:58 PM
Thank you very much!
heyho
03-19-2016, 03:03 PM
Wow camming at this time for the first time ever. Is it normally this horrible and freeloady?
Selenasecret
03-19-2016, 03:10 PM
Its been like this all day. I been on since 1pm UK time its now 10pm
heyho
03-19-2016, 03:15 PM
$4 in an hour, totally ballin'. I'm usually on much later, and it isn't THIS bad. This shit is just redonkulous. Your stamina inspires me Selena, I already wanna quit!
Selenasecret
03-19-2016, 03:36 PM
Netflix with an ebud in my hair ;-)
Selenasecret
03-19-2016, 03:46 PM
Its been smooth all day and now it starts to glitch. Fml!!!
Jacked it in now after 11hrs and $20. Saturdays are completely fucking useless. Never again!!!! Unless its on another site.
scarlettbelle
03-19-2016, 06:03 PM
Wow camming at this time for the first time ever. Is it normally this horrible and freeloady?
It's probably because you haven't cammed at that time before. When you change around your shifts you usually have to build up new regs. I personally never know when it's going to be slow or busy, so I just work as often as I can. It all evens out in the end. :)
AlyssaJane
03-19-2016, 06:49 PM
It's probably because you haven't cammed at that time before. When you change around your shifts you usually have to build up new regs. I personally never know when it's going to be slow or busy, so I just work as often as I can. It all evens out in the end. :)
I agree with this. I've had the same issue because I just don't work consistent schedules. (I've tried, just doesn't work for me.) But when I start camming I pretty much don't stop for 10 hours (minus breaks to eat and smoke.) My guys have gotten used to my inconsistency, and I have a few regulars at all times of the day now. I pretty much don't stress about how much I'm making because by the end of hour 10 it's usually a number I am happy with. Sometimes I go 3 or 4 hours with just a few short shows but there is always that whale who comes in and turns the whole night around.
SimoneGray
03-19-2016, 08:26 PM
SM is about those rain or shine shifts really...just show up at relatively the same time every day for whatever shift and stay on for however long, even if you are not making money, you never know who is fav-ing you, or seeing you and who might want to come back tomorrow. The highest paid times I've ever had were literally where I just worked at the same time every day
Supbitches
03-19-2016, 10:43 PM
I'd love to win a SM contest! I feel like I might still be a bit too early in my cam career to bust my way into the upper ranks though.
How do you unlock gold shows? I'd like to start doing those asap even if they are full of cheap guys. It would actually make me work even more.
BTW does anyone know who actually won.. or who got which top ten spot?
QueerCrip
03-20-2016, 12:00 AM
Day 2 on SM- I was doing a private with two people, one dropped out so one was left and halfway through I got a message to accept c2c. I did, which I assumed meant he switched over to exclusive. But my earning report says premium the whole time not exclusive, plus a 15.00 Gold tip afterwards that he left. People can c2c without being in exclusive? Also, the gold tip never showed up in any of my chat like they usually do, just in my earnings report. Also, the c2c screen was so small (like an inch wide) that I couldn't tell when if/when he was coming which was harder to fake through since he wanted dirty talk/me to tell him to come. Is there a way to adjust this? I couldn't seem to.
Supbitches
03-20-2016, 12:03 AM
Day 2 on SM- I was doing a private with two people, one dropped out so one was left and halfway through I got a message to accept c2c. I did, which I assumed meant he switched over to exclusive. But my earning report says premium the whole time not exclusive, plus a 15.00 Gold tip afterwards that he left. People can c2c without being in exclusive? Also, the gold tip never showed up in any of my chat like they usually do, just in my earnings report. Also, the c2c screen was so small (like an inch wide) that I couldn't tell when if/when he was coming which was harder to fake through since he wanted dirty talk/me to tell him to come. Is there a way to adjust this? I couldn't seem to.
That's normal for it to be small and no they can do c2c in pvt or exl
QueerCrip
03-20-2016, 12:21 AM
no they can do c2c in pvt or exl
What happens if you have multiple people in private who want c2c then? You don't make anything extra for c2cing?!
Supbitches
03-20-2016, 12:22 AM
I wish I could help with this one but I don't do c2c so I'm not sure