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FayeValentine
06-29-2016, 04:13 PM
I'm officially done with streamate. When I started in January, I was making $80 a night which I didn't take advantage of because I was new to camming and thought the money would be there. Then I joined Boleyn Models for the daily pay. Now, I'm lucky if I get $5 a night. I can't keep spending hours on it hoping it'll get better.

Prussia
06-29-2016, 04:30 PM
Oh awesome... I just got a message in my SM inbox saying that cheques issued to Canadian models might be delayed due to a possible Canada Post strike. RIGHT ON!! >:( :mad: :biting:

anonymous camgirl
06-29-2016, 04:41 PM
Didn't they quit doing that? they automatically took me off of it last December before the end of the year.. I didn't ask them to, they just did.. so now I am on weekly.


They hold for 3 weeks unless you message support asking to be paid weekly.

anonymous camgirl
06-29-2016, 04:43 PM
I wouldn't quit just yet!.. but take a break and come back to it...


I'm officially done with streamate. When I started in January, I was making $80 a night which I didn't take advantage of because I was new to camming and thought the money would be there. Then I joined Boleyn Models for the daily pay. Now, I'm lucky if I get $5 a night. I can't keep spending hours on it hoping it'll get better.

Marina Starr
06-29-2016, 04:50 PM
I don't know but the girls are asking so it must means they're still doing it.

Didn't they quit doing that? they automatically took me off of it last December before the end of the year.. I didn't ask them to, they just did.. so now I am on weekly.

StellaPurr
06-29-2016, 05:06 PM
Nooooo! I'm Canadian too and this sucks! I'm wondering if I should get payoneer now because of that but then i also heard it takes like a month for everything to get sorted on payoneer before you start getting money....aaaahhh!

KittieVenom
06-29-2016, 05:09 PM
Are you sure it was free chat and not a $0 gold show? If you were logged into your customer account and clicked into her room while a $0 show was happening, you would have entered the actual show where explicit things could be happening.

Now I'm curious exactly what "adult material/explicit sexual content" entails in terms of what's allowed in free chat. I do a lot of [non explicit] activities for tips in free chat, sort of MFC-style, and I've wondered if I could add things like "1 minute Hitachi tease" to my free chat tip menu. I mean, I see girls deepthroating their toys in free chat all the time and even offering it in their tip menus, so I don't actually see how something like a clothed Hitachi tease would be any different. It's all "sexual." I wonder where they draw the line at "explicit."

Nope, I checked myself to make sure. She did it a couple times. I was impressed, but I was pretty shocked because I, too, was wondering where we draw the line. I know hand inside of panties is a suspend-able offense. Why isn't cum literally pouring out of a scantily-clad thong the same thing? And I've seen girls do a hitachi tease while getting tips for a gold show, but who knows? When is it TOO sexual, you know?

heyho
06-29-2016, 07:16 PM
I don't know but the girls are asking so it must means they're still doing it.

It depends on what country you're from. If it's a white western country like US, UK, AUS, NZ, etc, you get perks like the 1 week hold and 35% payout.

If you're from an non-Anglo country like me, SM doesn't like you as much, so you get a non-negotiable 3-week hold, 30% payout, and you're not even allowed to use the mail feature.

I've definitely got a chip on my back about it, yes.

Marina Starr
06-29-2016, 07:24 PM
That's not entirely true. There are plenty of girls from the US myself included with 3 weeks hold when I first started. I have to message support asking them to put me on weekly paid.

It depends on what country you're from. If it's a white western country like US, UK, AUS, NZ, etc, you get perks like the 1 week hold and 35% payout.

If you're from a non-white country like me, SM doesn't like you as much, so you get a non-negotiable 3-week hold, 30% payout, and you're not even allowed to use the mail feature.

I've definitely got a chip on my back about it, yes.

heyho
06-29-2016, 07:29 PM
That's not entirely true. There are plenty of girls from the US myself included with 3 weeks hold when I first started. I have to message support asking them to put me on weekly paid.

Oh yeah of course, I read about it on the SM thread: "Just message support, they'll remove the hold/raise your max rate/etc!"

So I happily messaged support, got a "no sorry not possible". Messaged Liz next asking whyyyy, got a "because your submitted ID is from an asian country".

:(

Edit; I just went back to my emails to check and her reasoning for that was because Asia is a region "with a history of violations", to be clear. Not sure what that means, but I didn't pursue it. Anyway, not to digress and get into a whole discrimination thing here. Just adding in what I know about the 3-week hold as it applies to me.

Cutie101
06-29-2016, 08:30 PM
Oh yeah of course, I read about it on the SM thread: "Just message support, they'll remove the hold/raise your max rate/etc!"

So I happily messaged support, got a "no sorry not possible". Messaged Liz next asking whyyyy, got a "because your submitted ID is from an asian country".

:(

Edit; I just went back to my emails to check and her reasoning for that was because Asia is a region "with a history of violations", to be clear. Not sure what that means, but I didn't pursue it. Anyway, not to digress and get into a whole discrimination thing here. Just adding in what I know about the 3-week hold as it applies to me.


Here in Eastern Europe, it happens the same thing.
The problem is, in the past, our co-nationals or co-regionals were doing fraud stuff like: (example) A dude was a card stealer and he was partener with a model. He was stealing cards, of course, and spend the money on the model.
And many other hacks and shits like this. You can imagine how bad was the situation if they decided to "discriminate" us like this, but what can we do?
We all now struggle because of their shit. Is not our fault, but I am confident that in the future, things will get back to better for us. I try to believe that theese practices are long gone now. Hopefully.

KatM
06-29-2016, 09:08 PM
^^^ While i understand their concerns and motivations i still dont understand why they pay us less?
From what i know only SM and flirt4free pay people less based on region, this is soo very frustrating to know ur work is valued less just cause u from certain 2nd tier region.

Cutie101
06-29-2016, 10:04 PM
^^^ While i understand their concerns and motivations i still dont understand why they pay us less?
From what i know only SM and flirt4free pay people less based on region, this is soo very frustrating to know ur work is valued less just cause u from certain 2nd tier region.

Yeah, I can't understand this one either.
Maybe is a form of punishment :))) LMAO.
I don't know how we could solve this in the future.

heyho
06-29-2016, 10:11 PM
You're right Cutie. That's partly why I didn't pursue. I get that the 3 week hold might be to guard against fraudulent studios or models who try to game the system and get a lot of chargeback requests/complaints, whatever. Be cynical, ban at the first violation, have 1000 safeguards, I'm ALL for that. I'm fine with suffering all of the above I've mentioned for 6 months, even a year, to prove myself a legit and dependable performer. Not replying to mail because I can't has pissed off SO many of my custies, which loses SM buttloads but if I have to endure a year of "why u always ignore me!"s to prove to SM that I'm not a spambot, the least they could do is eventually lift that restriction.

But we are PERPETUALLY treated unequally. It's past the point of safeguarding if models like Kat who have been on SM for years are still treated like potential threats from whom SM needs to tax an extra 14.3% off our takings just to tolerate our presence.

Capitalism at work I guess. SM already has a huge US model base, no one would care to stick up for EE/Asian models. It's not that they value you less, I'm sure they very much value the $$$ you make them. It's just that they can shit on you with no consequences, because unlike discerning Westerners, you're from a POOR country and will probably be SO grateful for that 30% that you'll keep making SM money anyways. Business smarts!

I'm lucky in that when I get my NZ ID I can create a new account with all the western-country perks. But it sucks that others are just doomed to be shat on based on where they're from. I hope the next-gen sites aren't so flippantly discriminatory.

FayeValentine
06-30-2016, 05:55 AM
I wouldn't quit just yet!.. but take a break and come back to it...

I'm quitting camming as a whole. I didn't really like it even from the beginning, but I wanted to stick it out a little longer. It's made me despise men. The ones that actually pay have been nice and polite. The freeloaders make me want to cut their dicks off with a pair of rusty scissors. It's just not worth the frustration. But I love making clips so I'm going to put that energy into my clip stores.

carli93
06-30-2016, 04:00 PM
Ladies, when does SM first list you live as a webcam model? i wanna sign up set up all my profile then go on for the first time a few days later, but i don't want to waste any days of my "new model" place on the SM list

Blovely
06-30-2016, 04:07 PM
Ladies, when does SM first list you live as a webcam model? i wanna sign up set up all my profile then go on for the first time a few days later, but i don't want to waste any days of my "new model" place on the SM list
It can take anywhere from 1 week to a month for SM to approve your profile. Liz explained new model status below...

Hi all... Liz w/ Streamate here. I don't post often, but I see that there is some confusion on the new models page and wanted to chime in. My apologies for mixed messaging. A long while back, yes it was based on approval, but we figured out that this was not a great solution since not every model streams the moment they are approved. Anyway, this was changed a couple of years ago to be based on your first paid session. So you're on the new models page if your account is less than 30 days from your first paid session. I hope this clears things up and again, super sorry for the confusion!

carli93
06-30-2016, 04:10 PM
Thankyou thankyou! :)

Semyonovna
07-01-2016, 12:33 PM
I got this guy saying he has 500$ on his account and if i tease him with my lips and no nudity he'll give it all to me, i said i don't do teasing for free i need a tip to motivate me and he said that way i'll ruin his fetish- girl make him really hard but don't allow him to cum before he pays, is his request legit? i refused, because i hate doing stuff for free but Idk if i was wrong because he was very polite and cool, don't really know SM crowd

JustCallMeBree
07-01-2016, 12:56 PM
Personally I think you did the right thing. It sounds like he was just an scammer trying to get you to tease him so he can get off in free chat via money teasing. In my experience with true Findom lovers they don't mind paying a initial deposit before any teasing/draining happens. Don't sweat it, 9/10 you didn't miss any money and avoided a scammer.

IvyAdams
07-01-2016, 01:01 PM
I got this guy saying he has 500$ on his account and if i tease him with my lips and no nudity he'll give it all to me, i said i don't do teasing for free i need a tip to motivate me and he said that way i'll ruin his fetish- girl make him really hard but don't allow him to cum before he pays, is his request legit? i refused, because i hate doing stuff for free but Idk if i was wrong because he was very polite and cool, don't really know SM crowd

SCAM. Tell him to take you exclusive and play out his fetish if he tries that shit. Guys will say anything to try and get things for free. don't ever offer to do things they want before they pay you. You have the pussy, you make the rules. If he can't tip to prove he's legit then you don't have to play his "fetish" game.

Blovely
07-01-2016, 05:35 PM
I was watching a model the other day. She wasn't in her room, her cam switched to a different room she was in and then she switched it back to the first room and a few minutes later she walks into the room. I know that with Manycam and Verysoft you can use 2 or more camera's and swap which one is being shown to viewers. I'm assuming she had a camera in each room and used Manycam or Verysoft to switch which camera was being shown to viewers but how is it possible to do that if the camera's are in 2 different rooms.

theundercoverlover
07-02-2016, 12:25 PM
I've been indie and using naked for awhile so a few days I signed up for stream mate. Last night I got an email that said account was proved, two minutes later I was emailed and said my account was closed and I would need to be released from my studio first. I have been camming since 2011, I know to ALWAYS sign up directly through the site. What is going on? I've sent them at least 3 emails demanding to know what's going on, as I know without a doubt I never joined a studio....please help! I'm not getting any input from SM

Marina Starr
07-02-2016, 12:35 PM
Message Liz at [email protected] and ask her to look into it.

theundercoverlover
07-02-2016, 12:41 PM
I did! Trying to not to stress out :( hoping this is a mistake. Thank you, I emailed Liz.

audritwo
07-02-2016, 02:46 PM
It's a holiday weekend. She will get to it when she can.

Cutie101
07-02-2016, 09:28 PM
PLEASE STREAMATE!!!! Have mercy and raise the share at 50% so I can lower my prices!!!
Cuz I rather prefer 50% from $3,99/min than 27% from $7,99.

imelly21
07-03-2016, 05:45 AM
Maybe try something in between and experiment? I recently lowered my rates by about a dollar and have been getting multiple guys in private all at once. That can add up fast if you actually keep more than one person in there for a while. It hardly ever happened when my private rates were higher.

Im experimenting like that sometimes too.
what happens ( to me at least ) is this: it adds up fast and then it dies out. After that it goes down hill. Regs spy on yours prices and then they expect the lower price. in the end, after a few days (lets say) you end up making less.

JustCallMeBree
07-03-2016, 06:23 AM
Hopping on with a $300 goal today! Let's see how it goes.

CocoaBunni
07-03-2016, 07:02 AM
I think I read somewhere in here that we can email cs and have them add a break button to our room, is that true?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-03-2016, 07:19 AM
I think I read somewhere in here that we can email cs and have them add a break button to our room, is that true?

Yup just contact them through your dashboard. If by chance u get a dumb dumb who doesn't know what you're talking about try emailing Liz. I try going through regular support before I contact her.

CocoaBunni
07-03-2016, 07:31 AM
Yup just contact them through your dashboard. If by chance u get a dumb dumb who doesn't know what you're talking about try emailing Liz. I try going through regular support before I contact her.

Thank you so much!! *hugs*

JustCallMeBree
07-03-2016, 03:22 PM
Tapped out at $322 and I actually had alot of fun making it. SM is a bitch but some days, she's my bitch :)

sweetgapeach
07-03-2016, 04:36 PM
Am I the only one thinking maybe they gonna hang a flag on the site or something somewhere? Like just a little change for the Fourth? The site seems super unstable, glitchy.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-03-2016, 07:26 PM
Am I the only one thinking maybe they gonna hang a flag on the site or something somewhere? Like just a little change for the Fourth? The site seems super unstable, glitchy.

Maybe they should hang a white flag and surrender. Im sorry I couldnt resist that joke.

sweetgapeach
07-03-2016, 08:44 PM
Ha Ha. But for real though...the all the way at the bottom free chat....no matter if I stream from broadcaster or encoder, chat is popping up....but that room count has been on zero the entire four hours i have been on. Like i had it open watching. Just wierd...

Semyonovna
07-03-2016, 10:22 PM
Streamate doesn't love me at all and I don't know why. This is my 3rd week on SM and I scored only 3 pvt shows after 1200 minutes online. I wait for night time EST, look really hot, but for some reason guys just go in and out, in the same second, or they give me a compliment and disappear. I worked for tokens before and I always had people in my room that I could tease or talk to them, now I\m sitting on my bed in a bra, looking cute, when someone comes in I smile, when someone writes hi i greet him out loud. I have geo blocking for my country, but my country is really small, so I don't think I'm losing on audience. My country is shown and I can't switch it for some reason, do these guys find some countries repulsive or what? I got 5 star ratings from privates I have. I really want to work on SM and get it going, but I'm obviously missing something here. Should I stick to it? I'm losing my time and sleep for SM and I don't see any results. Any comment or advice is appreciated.

BiscuitT
07-03-2016, 10:51 PM
^^You only block your country but you won´t get promoted on any other sites, I´m not sure how much of the traffic is coming from there though, I used to do fine with geoblock enabled. Streamate is a bit slow right now, make sure you have the best tech as you can to improve your placement. It might take a while to build an audience. Also try on different times, night EST time it´s not necessarily the best for everyone. Good Luck!

Blovely
07-03-2016, 11:54 PM
Streamate doesn't love me at all and I don't know why. This is my 3rd week on SM and I scored only 3 pvt shows after 1200 minutes online. I wait for night time EST, look really hot, but for some reason guys just go in and out, in the same second, or they give me a compliment and disappear. I worked for tokens before and I always had people in my room that I could tease or talk to them, now I\m sitting on my bed in a bra, looking cute, when someone comes in I smile, when someone writes hi i greet him out loud. I have geo blocking for my country, but my country is really small, so I don't think I'm losing on audience. My country is shown and I can't switch it for some reason, do these guys find some countries repulsive or what? I got 5 star ratings from privates I have. I really want to work on SM and get it going, but I'm obviously missing something here. Should I stick to it? I'm losing my time and sleep for SM and I don't see any results. Any comment or advice is appreciated.

Guys going in and out has become the norm on SM, its kind of just something you have to get use to. Not every guy has their sound enable so when they message you, you may want to type as well. If you haven't already add messages to your presets. I have "Hello." as my first preset so whenever a guy comes into my room I say "Hello" via the preset and "Hello (insert username)" verbally. Because I hate having to type my second preset is something along the lines of "Make sure your speakers are on or get your headphones because I mostly use my mic.". Some guys will say "ok" and turn their speakers on. If certain users don't respond after I tell them that I will just type to them.

I would try changing things up a bit because you should be getting alot more pvts. If you don't have a tip menu perhaps make one. Try different times like BiscuitT suggested. I'd also try different positions maybe sit in a chair, get a blanket and lay on the floor or stand sometimes. One last suggestion is check your feed to make sure everything is good.

DeepThoughts
07-05-2016, 01:43 AM
Okay this might have been asked before but I dont want to go back and look. Regarding the leaderboard on our pop up contest. Can Custies view it as well? Can I post the link to view it in my room topic box??

DeepThoughts
07-05-2016, 01:45 AM
I'm quitting camming as a whole. I didn't really like it even from the beginning, but I wanted to stick it out a little longer. It's made me despise men. The ones that actually pay have been nice and polite. The freeloaders make me want to cut their dicks off with a pair of rusty scissors. It's just not worth the frustration. But I love making clips so I'm going to put that energy into my clip stores.


Sad to lose you Girl. Your really switched on and I thought you would own this shit! But then again really switched on people recognize early when something isnt working and cull it!

I have no doubt that you will do really well with clips! All the very best!

LaylaLovely
07-05-2016, 01:56 AM
Okay this might have been asked before but I dont want to go back and look. Regarding the leaderboard on our pop up contest. Can Custies view it as well? Can I post the link to view it in my room topic box??

Yes they can..which is why some ppl don't like it, it creates a mfc vibe wer guys are just going to run to the leaderboard n tip ther fav models...might not work that way tho since we are. Pvt. based ..but it will get u more traffic if ur showing up high

DeepThoughts
07-05-2016, 02:03 AM
Yeah I know some of us dont like it. I normally never get to participate in the contests cause Im always doing something but I still usually get $25 for being in the top 50! Today I can actually give it a go so I want to see how I do.

Its like a contest against myself not the other girls! Where will I place in the top 200? How good is my social media following? Will the guys who "love" me so much make an extra effort to help me today? These are all questions I can get some answers to because of the contest!

I want everyone to bank and I want the guys to go and spoil their favorite models even if those models are not me! When one benefits we all benefit!

Lolaki
07-05-2016, 08:48 AM
Streamate doesn't love me at all and I don't know why. This is my 3rd week on SM and I scored only 3 pvt shows after 1200 minutes online. I wait for night time EST, look really hot, but for some reason guys just go in and out, in the same second, or they give me a compliment and disappear. I worked for tokens before and I always had people in my room that I could tease or talk to them, now I\m sitting on my bed in a bra, looking cute, when someone comes in I smile, when someone writes hi i greet him out loud. I have geo blocking for my country, but my country is really small, so I don't think I'm losing on audience. My country is shown and I can't switch it for some reason, do these guys find some countries repulsive or what? I got 5 star ratings from privates I have. I really want to work on SM and get it going, but I'm obviously missing something here. Should I stick to it? I'm losing my time and sleep for SM and I don't see any results. Any comment or advice is appreciated.

Go to My Dashboard --> My Profile ---> Edit Display Country ----> You can choose from a list of countries (Unfortunatelly very limited options).

euro_princess
07-05-2016, 05:19 PM
Fuck you SM! Fucking fuck you! I just lost $150 in 3 seconds. Took 18 minutes for the money to show up in earnings. Obviously, they showed up at 00:00:03, after the contest ended. Omg! Wanna smash something. Argjshskshdbshhsiskd

euro_princess
07-05-2016, 07:20 PM
Yes. Was a gold show. I was expecting the money to show up in 10 min, max, so I was pretty chill, cause I smashed the goal. Couldn't fucking believe when I saw 3 seconds after the end.

lll99
07-05-2016, 09:32 PM
Hey hows traffic during the day for united states models? Anyone worked between 1 and 5pm eastern time?

Blovely
07-05-2016, 09:50 PM
Hey hows traffic during the day for united states models? Anyone worked between 1 and 5pm eastern time?
I think its pretty subjective. For me its almost always dead whenever I logon between 1pm-5pm but hey it may rock for you. If I'm up earlier enough I find its best to logon as early as possible. I don't work early days often but when I do I love when I make my goal by 2pm. Having the rest of the day to do whatever I want is the best feeling.

SoloDesire
07-06-2016, 07:47 AM
Hey hows traffic during the day for united states models? Anyone worked between 1 and 5pm eastern time?

There are plenty of models on between 1-5pm so it can't be that bad for everyone. For me, the worst time of the day to cam is between 1-5 EST. Seems like most men are at work in the US in all time zones between 1-5 EST/10-2 PST so all I get are the "I'm at work bb but I'll check back later to see if you're on." Or "I'm at work so how about a quick show before I get caught?" guys. It's lame so I avoid being on cam during those times. Way more popping in and out when guys are mobile since they're at work. I like to avoid the mobile guys since they are usually the ones with connection issues...although it's impossible to avoid completely, I'd rather wait til they are at home and near their computer.

anonymous camgirl
07-06-2016, 09:38 AM
Anyone get their check yet? Mine still didn't come!.. Thanks Holiday!