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rainbowsand
09-27-2016, 07:56 AM
How do you respond to someone who just wants to pvt message but doesn't take you exclusive?
DeepThoughts
09-27-2016, 08:08 AM
^^ You dont. Make them pay you for your time.
JessRyan
09-27-2016, 08:18 AM
I dont fabricate, I dont have time to BS on the internet much so when I post, its real. I am very aware people do this, I get annoyed at it myself.
I have always used social media and webcam.
How she found out? She googled my stage name in 2011. Its been tattooed on back way before. i have owned this name since 1995. She was worried I was doing porn.
There is different types of outing for everyone. It was how people went about it and let me clear up the fact that I come from a very divided family. Those aunts and Uncles are different than the stepson and my sisters son. There is no coalition. My daughters friends are a whole different social group. My brother never intentionally looked for me, this I know.
The two guys was not shocking to me. Give 2 years in between both. Maybe its the neighborhoods I live in, I go places most people go and I look the exact same.
I also currently live in a very busy neighborhood with corner stores. Like I said its all about the neighborhood. In my old neighborhood where I was recognized I still cammed with my front door unlocked. Now, I wouldn't cam with a open window.
If she wants noone to find out, do not cam 24/7. Do not use social media.
Were you a stripper before? My stage name was Rio. Stripping was so different, I mean everyone knew who I was, pretty much the car I drove, where I lived, my first name, some knew my last name. My family knew I was a stripper, heck I paid to have my parent's house finished with that cash. Put in a 1 bedroom, 1 bath, kitchen in their whole downstairs. Girls and customers I knew came to the parties my parent's threw. It was different back then, and I think it makes me worry less. But we were all friends too and hung out together. The one thing I miss the most. Camming never gets you close.
IvyAdams
09-27-2016, 09:35 AM
Girl chill out, you act like just because you cam you're going to be some countrywide phenomenon where people in your neighborhood are going to be recognizing you and busting down your door for a piece and your autograph. MANY women cam. I bet your boyfriends won't even find you for a while unless they're looking for you. IF they even find you ever.
You have to be careful sure, but come owyn.
Edit: after re reading this I realized this came off extremely catty and it was totally not meant to. I was trying to be comforting, straight to the point, and kind of silly. I hope it came off that way.
I definitely agree with Erika that it depends on the neighborhood. I live in a touristy area and I frequently get recognized. That being said, I also have a very strong social media presence as well as bright red hair. Sometimes they come up to me, sometimes they don't. Granted, I'm always with my boyfriend when I'm out, but even the ones who have come up and asked for a photo etc. are generally pretty nice and harmless. It's more the social media crowd that walks up to you in public vs. the guy who paid for a cam show.
I just make sure to live in an extremely secure building. 24 hour security/concierge/doorman/gated entry as well as many protective measures in my house.
I also don't have ANY personal social media that could link to anything other than my stage name. The risk isn't worth it, IMO. If you find me on social media, you are finding Ivy Adams. Period.
@rainbowsand- Spending time worrying about a fan recognizing you is wasted energy, because it will either happen or it won't. It's a risk that you take by creating an online presence with social media and by putting yourself on the world wide web in the first place. Install a good security system, always be aware of your surroundings and carry protection on you of some sort. Chances are, anyone who you see out in public is going to be with family, friends etc. Generally it's someone who they would not want to admit to that they were perving online.
kortneykay
09-27-2016, 11:00 AM
Nope, just really bad anxiety about getting hurt or even one person finding out and telling other people.
Take whatever caution you need to make you feel safe while doing it. And Erica's right. I had a male acquaintance find me when I first started on SM from a tube site (I had geoblock up at the time). Also, I don't have social media outside of a private family account and my ex still managed to try and out me by messaging my close relatives (parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles). It was a failed attempt, though.
And, my pshyco estranged husband has found the one GS I had recorded with my face not even in it at all. He also found me on my text site last week and pretended to be a client. Saying it was the only way he could speak to him as I have him blocked on everything. Do you.
Being in the sex industry seems to attract even more creeps, especially if they secretly know it's you and had a thing for you or you scorned them. The male acquaintance I wiggled a "wasn't me" out of but it didn't stop him from saying I looked like his friend and he's always wanted to see her tits since he's a breast man. Ugh.
Erika_Xstacy
09-27-2016, 11:23 AM
Were you a stripper before? My stage name was Rio. Stripping was so different, I mean everyone knew who I was, pretty much the car I drove, where I lived, my first name, some knew my last name. My family knew I was a stripper, heck I paid to have my parent's house finished with that cash. Put in a 1 bedroom, 1 bath, kitchen in their whole downstairs. Girls and customers I knew came to the parties my parent's threw. It was different back then, and I think it makes me worry less. But we were all friends too and hung out together. The one thing I miss the most. Camming never gets you close.
Yes, I worked many parts of the house mom, dancer, door girl. The Club worked with my single mom lifestyle and they worked with me as a friend. I spent 3 years in the club. I cried the day I had to quit but my bb was going into kindergarten and I found a baller.
Its not til after camming my full stage name was more more recognized bc like Ivy stated, social media and streamate.
I use to laugh bc when my mom was trying to find me, she would find nothing. A year or two into it, after goldshows, I was found.
Im giving5 year cam girl experience, before porn, noone I met after porn was included. I stress this bc ppl will think "you did porn" and I am like no shit Sherlock, if we were talking porn, the number is much higher. I forgot the mention the Nordstrom Employee that will not tell me who he is in person but I know him online at streamate, again before porn. A camgirl branding herself with a certain look/ niche plays a big role in who ppl attract.
Being recognized/outed happens to a lot of girls
Kandigrace
09-27-2016, 12:09 PM
Hi
My internet is on the fritz and I dont know when it will be fixed. Does anyone know if i can cam on sm from a smartphone? I have an android.
laurielegs
09-27-2016, 12:48 PM
Read through this and see if it helps:
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?204151-Puffin-Mobile-Browser-can-now-stream-to-camsites
Bluelake
09-27-2016, 03:10 PM
Hello beautiful girls :)
I have been reading all the post for around 85 hours maybe in the last days. Finally, I decide to sign up in SM.
However, I am still have questions and nobody in support answer me back since 2 days.
My question is the following:
1) I am from South America, so I assume that my cut will be 30% only, right? Because they may assign me to a Studio.
There is no way around to get full 35%?
2) Am I allow to receive daily payments or is it only for us guys? I have a Payoneer card and us bank related to Payoneer. If so, I will have 5% less. So at the end 25% (assuming it is possible and assuming I get 30%). Right?
3) Range of prices I can charge per minute for exclusive? Is 4.99 the top I can charge as a newbie? What are the range of prices they offer to start with as a newbie?
4) THIS IS IMPORTANT: Do you think they will not approve my request if I have a different IP from my country. I am a national of a crappy country in South America but I do not live there anymore. Will reject my request because my IP does not match my nationality? Not everybody that were born in a country lives forever there! People move out of their countries and I am afraid they will reject my account. Should I use a VPN? I am NOT IN US. So it will not create this US conflict I read in the post.
Thanks a lot in advance for your support!! :D
Lara
alegendawaits
09-27-2016, 03:20 PM
So I've been waiting on my approval to be a model on streamate, logged in today to see if i could broadcast yet, and it said that my email wasn't even on file -.- I think my account was denied, but i don't even know WHY it was denied.
two possible reasons:
1.) i used to be a model in one of their studios, but I'm pretty sure that was at least 6 months ago
or 2.) okay this is going to sound really horrible but on the Square Cash app a few months ago, I tried stealing $200 from my family's credit and debit cards, and tried transferring it onto MY card through Cash.me , I felt really really bad about it and ever since then I've been paranoid that it's going to fuck up my credit score and also fuck up a lot of other shit that I'd want to do later in life (i.e. signing up for stuff, purchasing stuff, etc. bc maybe now i have 'fraud' or 'theft' on a background check? THING IS, i never actually got the 200 it bounced back so idk, but i DO know for a fact that they ended up calling the bank and complaining and getting issued a new card)
JackAlexander
09-27-2016, 03:30 PM
Hello beautiful girls :)
I have been reading all the post for around 85 hours maybe in the last days. Finally, I decide to sign up in SM.
However, I am still have questions and nobody in support answer me back since 2 days.
My question is the following:
1) I am from South America, so I assume that my cut will be 30% only, right? Because they may assign me to a Studio.
There is no way around to get full 35%?
2) Am I allow to receive daily payments or is it only for us guys? I have a Payoneer card and us bank related to Payoneer. If so, I will have 5% less. So at the end 25% (assuming it is possible and assuming I get 30%). Right?
3) Range of prices I can charge per minute for exclusive? Is 4.99 the top I can charge as a newbie? What are the range of prices they offer to start with as a newbie?
4) THIS IS IMPORTANT: Do you think they will not approve my request if I have a different IP from my country. I am a national of a crappy country in South America but I do not live there anymore. Will reject my request because my IP does not match my nationality?
1. I am a US cam girl, I cannot answer this one :/
2. You do not have to be in the US only, you can sign up with Boleyn Model studio and they can pay you out on your Payoneer card daily. Also, her team has helped me over come a few different obstacles with support that I could have not concurred on my own, even being with SM for 3 years on my own. Example: Support told me NO to changing my screen name, her team had it changed within a day of bringing it up. to them. https://boleynmodels.com
3. You can send an email to support after you are approved to raise your rates. I am not sure what they start out as, but since I asked the first week I can now charge 19.99 if I want. While you are at it, ask for a break button!
4. Unless you are in some crazy country they normally disapprove, as long as you can show them who you and you are of age, I do nto think you should have an issue.
Hope that helps.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-27-2016, 03:31 PM
Hello beautiful girls :)
I have been reading all the post for around 85 hours maybe in the last days. Finally, I decide to sign up in SM.
However, I am still have questions and nobody in support answer me back since 2 days.
My question is the following:
1) I am from South America, so I assume that my cut will be 30% only, right? Because they may assign me to a Studio.
There is no way around to get full 35%? Yes it will be 30%. But Im not sure if that changes since you are now living outside of South America. Do your ids reflect your current location?
2) Am I allow to receive daily payments or is it only for us guys? I have a Payoneer card and us bank related to Payoneer. If so, I will have 5% less. So at the end 25% (assuming it is possible and assuming I get 30%). Right? You can get on The Boleyn Models Daily Pay network and receive 26% payout after their fee and up to 30% with you work 6 days a week to get the SM bonus.
3) Range of prices I can charge per minute for exclusive? Is 4.99 the top I can charge as a newbie? What are the range of prices they offer to start with as a newbie? Once you start making money SM will increase the amount that you can charge. In some cases models have asked for an increase but again you have to be a money maker.
4) THIS IS IMPORTANT: Do you think they will not approve my request if I have a different IP from my country. I am a national of a crappy country in South America but I do not live there anymore. Will reject my request because my IP does not match my nationality? Not everybody that were born in a country lives forever there! People move out of their countries and I am afraid they will reject my account. Should I use a VPN? I am NOT IN US. So it will not create this US conflict I read in the post. Again Im unsure of this part, sorry
Thanks a lot in advance for your support!! :D
Lara
answered above
Promised
09-27-2016, 09:42 PM
Okay so there is this annoying as shit guy who has been driving me crazy for 2 years! He pops in and out everytime i'm on never staying more than a two seconds. He does it in free chat and in private once like 40 times during the private. So I finally caught him the other day and was so happy. I clicked block and it came up and asked if I wanted to block him from messages etc... too and I clicked to do it, but today I sign on and there he is wtf happened? Anyone had this happen before?
JaneBurgess
09-27-2016, 11:03 PM
So I've been waiting on my approval to be a model on streamate, logged in today to see if i could broadcast yet, and it said that my email wasn't even on file -.- I think my account was denied, but i don't even know WHY it was denied.
two possible reasons:
1.) i used to be a model in one of their studios, but I'm pretty sure that was at least 6 months ago
or 2.) okay this is going to sound really horrible but on the Square Cash app a few months ago, I tried stealing $200 from my family's credit and debit cards, and tried transferring it onto MY card through Cash.me , I felt really really bad about it and ever since then I've been paranoid that it's going to fuck up my credit score and also fuck up a lot of other shit that I'd want to do later in life (i.e. signing up for stuff, purchasing stuff, etc. bc maybe now i have 'fraud' or 'theft' on a background check? THING IS, i never actually got the 200 it bounced back so idk, but i DO know for a fact that they ended up calling the bank and complaining and getting issued a new card)
Even if its been six months your account could still be active. You will have to contact CS and ask them.
laurielegs
09-27-2016, 11:10 PM
Okay so there is this annoying as shit guy who has been driving me crazy for 2 years! He pops in and out everytime i'm on never staying more than a two seconds. He does it in free chat and in private once like 40 times during the private. So I finally caught him the other day and was so happy. I clicked block and it came up and asked if I wanted to block him from messages etc... too and I clicked to do it, but today I sign on and there he is wtf happened? Anyone had this happen before?
Always go into your blacklist (under Customers) after you block someone and be sure both checkmarks are there, both messaging and chat. If they leave fast it will only block them from messaging for some reason. I bet you'll find Chat unchecked. Might want to go back and check all the ones you blocked.
JaneBurgess
09-27-2016, 11:11 PM
Hello beautiful girls :)
I have been reading all the post for around 85 hours maybe in the last days. Finally, I decide to sign up in SM.
However, I am still have questions and nobody in support answer me back since 2 days.
My question is the following:
1) I am from South America, so I assume that my cut will be 30% only, right? Because they may assign me to a Studio.
There is no way around to get full 35%?
2) Am I allow to receive daily payments or is it only for us guys? I have a Payoneer card and us bank related to Payoneer. If so, I will have 5% less. So at the end 25% (assuming it is possible and assuming I get 30%). Right?
3) Range of prices I can charge per minute for exclusive? Is 4.99 the top I can charge as a newbie? What are the range of prices they offer to start with as a newbie?
4) THIS IS IMPORTANT: Do you think they will not approve my request if I have a different IP from my country. I am a national of a crappy country in South America but I do not live there anymore. Will reject my request because my IP does not match my nationality? Not everybody that were born in a country lives forever there! People move out of their countries and I am afraid they will reject my account. Should I use a VPN? I am NOT IN US. So it will not create this US conflict I read in the post.
Thanks a lot in advance for your support!! :D
Lara
1. 30% is usually when you are independent, not sure what your percentage will be if you are under a studio, I dont think the site puts you under a studio
2. You can ask Katy on this, she's on here and there is a Daily Pay thread in the camming section too
3. I think you can go higher as a newbie, I think up to 9.99, but Im not 100 percent sure. Its been so long since I was new on the site.
4. Where you live might actually matter to them. Most cam sites want to know where you live now, not what country you were born in.
JessRyan
09-28-2016, 10:24 AM
I definitely agree with Erika that it depends on the neighborhood. I live in a touristy area and I frequently get recognized. That being said, I also have a very strong social media presence as well as bright red hair. Sometimes they come up to me, sometimes they don't. Granted, I'm always with my boyfriend when I'm out, but even the ones who have come up and asked for a photo etc. are generally pretty nice and harmless. It's more the social media crowd that walks up to you in public vs. the guy who paid for a cam show.
I just make sure to live in an extremely secure building. 24 hour security/concierge/doorman/gated entry as well as many protective measures in my house.
I also don't have ANY personal social media that could link to anything other than my stage name. The risk isn't worth it, IMO. If you find me on social media, you are finding Ivy Adams. Period.
@rainbowsand- Spending time worrying about a fan recognizing you is wasted energy, because it will either happen or it won't. It's a risk that you take by creating an online presence with social media and by putting yourself on the world wide web in the first place. Install a good security system, always be aware of your surroundings and carry protection on you of some sort. Chances are, anyone who you see out in public is going to be with family, friends etc. Generally it's someone who they would not want to admit to that they were perving online.
your post has resonated with me since I first read it. And you're right about safety/privacy first. The real me is such an open book that I easily forget to "check myself" The real me wishes I could be both. But I'm taking your post to heart. You are a very smart girl. I get that from everything you do and say. Thanks Ivy
JessRyan
09-28-2016, 10:33 AM
Always go into your blacklist (under Customers) after you block someone and be sure both checkmarks are there, both messaging and chat. If they leave fast it will only block them from messaging for some reason. I bet you'll find Chat unchecked. Might want to go back and check all the ones you blocked.
I found that out the hard way too. ;-) I'm glad SM gives us 2 block options though. For second chances.
I sometimes feel forgiving and go back to my block list (almost 1000 now) and unblock "chat" but not messaging. I put a note with them and give them a second chance. I even tell them that when they pop back into my guest chat. Believe it or not, many have redeemed themselves. LOL
Recently I posted this on my Twitter: "If I have banned you on streamate, you have to tip me off line and I'll consider un-blocking you. Your fate depends on the size of your tip"
2 days later I had a guy buy 4 videos on my ManyVids (it's the only place I offer videos) and he sent a message on ManyVids "would you please un-block me on Streamte? Or do I have to buy more videos?" I had blocked him back in July. Lesson learned. ;-)
Horny
09-29-2016, 02:57 AM
Does anyone know how many days you can be away before really affecting your placement?
Teddy_Bear
10-02-2016, 06:40 AM
That's a good attitude to have. Camming is a legal job, so no need for shame.
*Cause when the chips are down, and God forbid you need ANYBODY'S help, nobody will be there for you anyway. Even if they don't know you cam.
Believe me on this. I've been through some things that would break most people, and all anyone did was say they wish they could help, but couldn't. But, yeah, they were in a position where they could have.
Well said but who will have their hands out when their luck changes? You betcha those same people who watched you crawl out of the gutter on your own and then you become the bitch for 'wallowing in luxury' while they struggle. Pffffft karma is a bitch.
Teddy_Bear
10-02-2016, 06:41 AM
Does anyone know how many days you can be away before really affecting your placement?
Same for me I work maximum 2 days a week lately if I can be bothered and I am always on the second/third row on the first page too. No idea why it doesn't change just thankful it doesn't as it allows me to be lazy at times.
Glamourmilf
10-02-2016, 06:56 AM
Well said but who will have their hands out when their luck changes? You betcha those same people who watched you crawl out of the gutter on your own and then you become the bitch for 'wallowing in luxury' while they struggle. Pffffft karma is a bitch.
I've already watched this happen. Karma IS a bitch, like you said.
The thing that is most important to them, is taken away, or always just out of reach.
As the saying goes, ' I keep my friends close, but my enemies closer.'
Erika_Xstacy
10-04-2016, 04:59 PM
UDY pranks youtuber
Wooooooooweeeeeeeee: So thats a no?
You are currently being recorded i am a youtuber trying to find out which models would put trust and most greedy and which ones would let me see titties for free if you did you would have gotten a 100 tip just for being trusting my channel is called UDY pranks with 600k almost 700k subscribers just letting you know it will be uploaded if you dont believe youtube me i am legit if you kick me i have the right to upload it and dont come with that lawyer shit lmao it makes me laugh cause i have a legal right by the goverment since i live off videos like these
Wooooooooweeeeeeeee: Yea so bby are gonna work it out or do you want me to upload it?
Flag this message Delete this message
When a member gave too much of his info, Ill shut his shit down. Trolled the wrong bitch
and the foll dont know shit about legalities.
luna93
10-04-2016, 05:15 PM
So the highest I can charge for exclusive right now is 5.99 per minute, does the option to charge more go up once I've put in more hours/am not new anymore?
SimoneGray
10-04-2016, 05:16 PM
So the highest I can charge for exclusive right now is 5.99 per minute, does that go up once I've put in more hours/am not new anymore?
Yes, it increases periodically til you can charge about $14.99/min as far as I know, and after that you have to talk to support if you want them to raise the cap even further.
DeepThoughts
10-05-2016, 05:55 AM
UDY pranks youtuber
Wooooooooweeeeeeeee: So thats a no?
You are currently being recorded i am a youtuber trying to find out which models would put trust and most greedy and which ones would let me see titties for free if you did you would have gotten a 100 tip just for being trusting my channel is called UDY pranks with 600k almost 700k subscribers just letting you know it will be uploaded if you dont believe youtube me i am legit if you kick me i have the right to upload it and dont come with that lawyer shit lmao it makes me laugh cause i have a legal right by the goverment since i live off videos like these
Wooooooooweeeeeeeee: Yea so bby are gonna work it out or do you want me to upload it?
Flag this message Delete this message
When a member gave too much of his info, Ill shut his shit down. Trolled the wrong bitch
and the foll dont know shit about legalities.
So let me get this straight. You promise to give me 100 gold if I show you my breasts and if I do show you my breasts this will prove to you that Im NOT a gold digger????
JackAlexander
10-05-2016, 06:21 AM
UDY pranks youtuber
Wooooooooweeeeeeeee: So thats a no?
You are currently being recorded i am a youtuber trying to find out which models would put trust and most greedy and which ones would let me see titties for free if you did you would have gotten a 100 tip just for being trusting my channel is called UDY pranks with 600k almost 700k subscribers just letting you know it will be uploaded if you dont believe youtube me i am legit if you kick me i have the right to upload it and dont come with that lawyer shit lmao it makes me laugh cause i have a legal right by the goverment since i live off videos like these
Wooooooooweeeeeeeee: Yea so bby are gonna work it out or do you want me to upload it?
Flag this message Delete this message
When a member gave too much of his info, Ill shut his shit down. Trolled the wrong bitch
and the foll dont know shit about legalities.
hahahaha, here is his email. I think we need to sign him up for gay porn subscriptions :-)
[email protected]
FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/udsydefilms
INSTAGRAM:https://www.instagram.com/udypranks/
SNAPCHAT: @smejia95 T
WITTER:https://twitter.com/UDYPranks
YouNow: https://www.younow.com/UDYPranks/channel
PO Box 3128 Fullerton, CA 92834
xxtinamariexx
10-05-2016, 08:55 AM
46152
So its okay for him to steal from you but not for others to steal from him??
Sixes
10-05-2016, 12:43 PM
Sorry for this newb question...I signed up for stremate last night (waiting to get approved or something) but I was being creepy and going into the models' rooms on the front page to get an idea of what it's about..so these women are on the front page for me but there were only maybe 5 visitors in her room?! A lot of them had no visitors in their room except me. Is the traffic really bad during the day or something? Are these the "TOP" models on the front page or is it just random models?
Erika_Xstacy
10-05-2016, 01:11 PM
Sorry for this newb question...I signed up for stremate last night (waiting to get approved or something) but I was being creepy and going into the models' rooms on the front page to get an idea of what it's about..so these women are on the front page for me but there were only maybe 5 visitors in her room?! A lot of them had no visitors in their room except me. Is the traffic really bad during the day or something? Are these the "TOP" models on the front page or is it just random models?
Yes, Top models, models with exclusive contracts and new models in hopes they hold rank or give a good boost.
This can be normal as the guys tend to fish around for the site, sometimes those five are hard core cam fans.
Its not MFC or chaturbate will you have a ton of pp at once.
Room count rise with gold shows or free gold shows
Erika_Xstacy
10-05-2016, 01:13 PM
Sorry for this newb question...I signed up for stremate last night (waiting to get approved or something) but I was being creepy and going into the models' rooms on the front page to get an idea of what it's about..so these women are on the front page for me but there were only maybe 5 visitors in her room?! A lot of them had no visitors in their room except me. Is the traffic really bad during the day or something? Are these the "TOP" models on the front page or is it just random models?
ima go follow him on twitter.
lol :)
Erika_Xstacy
10-05-2016, 01:15 PM
hahahaha, here is his email. I think we need to sign him up for gay porn subscriptions :-)
[email protected]
FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/udsydefilms
INSTAGRAM:https://www.instagram.com/udypranks/
SNAPCHAT: @smejia95 T
WITTER:https://twitter.com/UDYPranks
YouNow: https://www.younow.com/UDYPranks/channel
PO Box 3128 Fullerton, CA 92834
love you guys :)
JaneBurgess
10-05-2016, 01:33 PM
Yes, Top models, models with exclusive contracts and new models in hopes they hold rank or give a good boost.
This can be normal as the guys tend to fish around for the site, sometimes those five are hard core cam fans.
Its not MFC or chaturbate will you have a ton of pp at once.
Room count rise with gold shows or free gold shows
This is why people stop camming on SM. You shouldnt have to do a free show or a gold show to get people in your room or to spend money. Performers dont pay 65 percent for hardly any traffic and when there is traffic a lot of its beggar traffic. SM needs to get their head out of their butt and realize their site isnt making money like it used to. So instead of being desperate and allowing all the rule breaking, take control of your site and make it like it was when it did make money. Make Gold shows should be at least a buck a minute and ban giveaways with the shows. Dont allow OhMiBod in free chat, this isnt MFC or Chaturbate. Dont allow the selling of videos since its a LIVE cam site and cam shows should be the focus. The site has done everything possible to cheapen itself and attract every freeloader known to man. Now they need to either step up and fix the issues or continue to let the site die. Yes it is dying despite what some of you say. Traffic stats don't lie and neither do the performers who used to make make great money and now make half of what they used to.
Erika_Xstacy
10-05-2016, 03:46 PM
This is why people stop camming on SM. You shouldnt have to do a free show or a gold show to get people in your room or to spend money. Performers dont pay 65 percent for hardly any traffic and when there is traffic a lot of its beggar traffic. SM needs to get their head out of their butt and realize their site isnt making money like it used to. So instead of being desperate and allowing all the rule breaking, take control of your site and make it like it was when it did make money. Make Gold shows should be at least a buck a minute and ban giveaways with the shows. Dont allow OhMiBod in free chat, this isnt MFC or Chaturbate. Dont allow the selling of videos since its a LIVE cam site and cam shows should be the focus. The site has done everything possible to cheapen itself and attract every freeloader known to man. Now they need to either step up and fix the issues or continue to let the site die. Yes it is dying despite what some of you say. Traffic stats don't lie and neither do the performers who used to make make great money and now make half of what they used to.
I personally can not do zero gold shows, have done maybe 1
Gold shows for a minimum of a dollar and no longer offer zero. The girls that originally did this made bank so I see why it was allowed. Free use to not exist. Free gold shows are now a joke compared to how some models use to hold them
Tits for tips use to not exist
ohmibod is a great incentive for goldshows, it does speed up the process of collecting tips and a extra incentive in free chat for them to tip. I have experience positive income from this. I have owned the toy since March but I dont find it profitable enough to bring daily. I use it when money is not flowing and they need a push every blue moon.
As long as the model doesnt have her bare cooch out with only the toy on it, on cam. I see this and I do agree this should not be allowed.
Video converts into sales. I also sell videos. They are just laying around, all uploaded to all clip sites. I cant tell people where to buy my videos but I can sell them videos through site and make a profit from that. Plus they are just lying around in a link, its not like making special request videos for every tipper. Not all want to buy clips or join member sites so they buy vids here.
Its a way to convert sales imo and it does help.
Not everyone wants a site membership or to find me other sites bc they dont want CC info all the web.
Over the years many camsites have popped up, many new models everywhere I look. I cant blame the site.
This business is over saturated, thats the problem
Models have more than doubled
JaneBurgess
10-05-2016, 05:31 PM
I personally can not do zero gold shows, have done maybe 1
Gold shows for a minimum of a dollar and no longer offer zero. The girls that originally did this made bank so I see why it was allowed. Free use to not exist. Free gold shows are now a joke compared to how some models use to hold them
Tits for tips use to not exist
ohmibod is a great incentive for goldshows, it does speed up the process of collecting tips and a extra incentive in free chat for them to tip. I have experience positive income from this. I have owned the toy since March but I dont find it profitable enough to bring daily. I use it when money is not flowing and they need a push every blue moon.
As long as the model doesnt have her bare cooch out with only the toy on it, on cam. I see this and I do agree this should not be allowed.
Video converts into sales. I also sell videos. They are just laying around, all uploaded to all clip sites. I cant tell people where to buy my videos but I can sell them videos through site and make a profit from that. Plus they are just lying around in a link, its not like making special request videos for every tipper. Not all want to buy clips or join member sites so they buy vids here.
Its a way to convert sales imo and it does help.
Not everyone wants a site membership or to find me other sites bc they dont want CC info all the web.
Over the years many camsites have popped up, many new models everywhere I look. I cant blame the site.
This business is over saturated, thats the problem
Models have more than doubled
I see why it was allowed too, but I also called what was going to happen as soon as GS rolled out. It should have always had a minimum dollar amount just like privates are. I dont think anyone wants to do a free show but they also dont want to be broke and do what they have to do.
It was better when we couldnt flash in free chat. People would actually buy shows just to see you naked and you could turn that into a long show.
OhMiBod only works if people use it like they should. Take a spin around free chat and see how many performers flash their vag on purpose when using the OhMiBod. SM is a private based site, its not a token site. Introducing toys in free chat is a terrible idea when they dont have the manpower to monitor free chat. It works for you because you know how to work a crowd and you follow rules. For performers who dont its a tool to get tips by showing vag.
Why sell video's on a live cam site? The purpose is to sell cam shows. For $50 bucks I can buy 20 videos and have no need to ever buy a cam show. You just sold me enough whack off material for a few months. Then I can go buy another 30 video's for $20 bucks from another performer. Why pay per minute and spend big money when I can get video's for cheap. Thats the mentality these guys are thinking.
Cam sites should know better. They are in the business of cam shows, the biggest selling site is LJ. Thats also the site with the most restrictions for performers. They have over half of all cam traffic and make more than half of all cam profits. So the no nudity in free chat and no selling items still works or they would be a bottom tier site and they arent.
Models have doubled because they allow anyone to cam. Back in the day you had to be a performer, you had to know how to actually entertain in your shows. You couldnt be naked in free chat so you had to work on your show skills. If cam sites actually fired all rule breakers, they would only have actual performers left. Its over saturated because of that, because you almost have to kill a person to get fired.
You and I have been on SM a long time. It hurts me to see how many awesome ladies quit the site due to not making decent money anymore. I hate to come on here and see people so upset because they can hardly pay their bills. It frustrates me that cam sites do NOT take what we say seriously and try to incorporate our suggestions into their sites. We are the ones customers talk to, the ones they complain to. We know what they want in a site and sites need to start listening to us. The biggest complaint I hear on SM is to please fix the glitches. Its been at least three years since performers and customers have been asking for that. Dont spend money on contests, spend money fixing issues so we can make good money every day.
EllieGold
10-05-2016, 11:04 PM
I see why it was allowed too, but I also called what was going to happen as soon as GS rolled out. It should have always had a minimum dollar amount just like privates are. I dont think anyone wants to do a free show but they also dont want to be broke and do what they have to do.
It was better when we couldnt flash in free chat. People would actually buy shows just to see you naked and you could turn that into a long show.
OhMiBod only works if people use it like they should. Take a spin around free chat and see how many performers flash their vag on purpose when using the OhMiBod. SM is a private based site, its not a token site. Introducing toys in free chat is a terrible idea when they dont have the manpower to monitor free chat. It works for you because you know how to work a crowd and you follow rules. For performers who dont its a tool to get tips by showing vag.
Why sell video's on a live cam site? The purpose is to sell cam shows. For $50 bucks I can buy 20 videos and have no need to ever buy a cam show. You just sold me enough whack off material for a few months. Then I can go buy another 30 video's for $20 bucks from another performer. Why pay per minute and spend big money when I can get video's for cheap. Thats the mentality these guys are thinking.
Cam sites should know better. They are in the business of cam shows, the biggest selling site is LJ. Thats also the site with the most restrictions for performers. They have over half of all cam traffic and make more than half of all cam profits. So the no nudity in free chat and no selling items still works or they would be a bottom tier site and they arent.
Models have doubled because they allow anyone to cam. Back in the day you had to be a performer, you had to know how to actually entertain in your shows. You couldnt be naked in free chat so you had to work on your show skills. If cam sites actually fired all rule breakers, they would only have actual performers left. Its over saturated because of that, because you almost have to kill a person to get fired.
You and I have been on SM a long time. It hurts me to see how many awesome ladies quit the site due to not making decent money anymore. I hate to come on here and see people so upset because they can hardly pay their bills. It frustrates me that cam sites do NOT take what we say seriously and try to incorporate our suggestions into their sites. We are the ones customers talk to, the ones they complain to. We know what they want in a site and sites need to start listening to us. The biggest complaint I hear on SM is to please fix the glitches. Its been at least three years since performers and customers have been asking for that. Dont spend money on contests, spend money fixing issues so we can make good money every day.
Preach Jane. Well said. This sums it up perfect.
moneycat
10-05-2016, 11:41 PM
empty ass room tonight, I have managed to make roughly $30 in 2hrs but only because 1 person took me excl
Sunnylexie
10-06-2016, 12:16 AM
hahahaha, here is his email. I think we need to sign him up for gay porn subscriptions :-)
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Are you sure the Streamate guy was the youtuber himiself but not someone posing as him? He's a douche indeed, but I don't believe he's that stupid as to go to designated pro golddigger site and demand that people on there prove they aren't golddiggers.
Even if it were him - I'd totally love to get uploaded to his channel so every douchebag loser out there knows they aren't getting shit for free in my room.
Halo88
10-06-2016, 12:27 AM
UDY pranks youtuber
Are you sure the Streamate guy was the youtuber himiself but not someone posing as him?
I doubt that is the real Youtuber too. Then again based some of his video titles, it likely could be. Imagine all the free promotion you would get from his subs if he did upload you though lol. Some of his vids have over 1M views.
JessRyan
10-06-2016, 08:51 AM
I see why it was allowed too, but I also called what was going to happen as soon as GS rolled out. It should have always had a minimum dollar amount just like privates are. I dont think anyone wants to do a free show but they also dont want to be broke and do what they have to do.
It was better when we couldnt flash in free chat. People would actually buy shows just to see you naked and you could turn that into a long show.
OhMiBod only works if people use it like they should. Take a spin around free chat and see how many performers flash their vag on purpose when using the OhMiBod. SM is a private based site, its not a token site. Introducing toys in free chat is a terrible idea when they dont have the manpower to monitor free chat. It works for you because you know how to work a crowd and you follow rules. For performers who dont its a tool to get tips by showing vag.
Why sell video's on a live cam site? The purpose is to sell cam shows. For $50 bucks I can buy 20 videos and have no need to ever buy a cam show. You just sold me enough whack off material for a few months. Then I can go buy another 30 video's for $20 bucks from another performer. Why pay per minute and spend big money when I can get video's for cheap. Thats the mentality these guys are thinking.
Cam sites should know better. They are in the business of cam shows, the biggest selling site is LJ. Thats also the site with the most restrictions for performers. They have over half of all cam traffic and make more than half of all cam profits. So the no nudity in free chat and no selling items still works or they would be a bottom tier site and they arent.
Models have doubled because they allow anyone to cam. Back in the day you had to be a performer, you had to know how to actually entertain in your shows. You couldnt be naked in free chat so you had to work on your show skills. If cam sites actually fired all rule breakers, they would only have actual performers left. Its over saturated because of that, because you almost have to kill a person to get fired.
You and I have been on SM a long time. It hurts me to see how many awesome ladies quit the site due to not making decent money anymore. I hate to come on here and see people so upset because they can hardly pay their bills. It frustrates me that cam sites do NOT take what we say seriously and try to incorporate our suggestions into their sites. We are the ones customers talk to, the ones they complain to. We know what they want in a site and sites need to start listening to us. The biggest complaint I hear on SM is to please fix the glitches. Its been at least three years since performers and customers have been asking for that. Dont spend money on contests, spend money fixing issues so we can make good money every day.
so true. I think the tip activated vibes on SM starts a slippery slope to all sorts of fingering, humping and simulated orgasm's in free chat. I use one, I know what they feel like and the faking of convulsions and body spasm's is ridiculous and laughable. It's not a TAZER girls. "don't taz me bro" Like Barney said in "Andy Griffith" .."you gotta nip it! Nip it in the bud" and SM needs to do some nipping and get rid of those toys. (my opinion) they are better suited on the token sites where I use them all the time. Using them on SM encourages too much that isn't allowed in the first place. However I'm beginning to doubt all that with what I've been seeing in free chat. couples practically having sex, girls giving their partner blow jobs...the list goes on and I"m just looking around. Seems on twitter it takes MODELS to turn other models in/report them. Which tells me some one isn't doing their job. I should just mind my own business, but I care about my camsites and WANT to work on one that is cared for also BY it's owner. I lose all respect when all it takes is one great person to do their job. That one great person needs to be a long time Streamate cam girl that knows business and can connect with us. Not some corporate puppet passing out tank tops. That would be ground breaking wouldn't it? Coffee!!!!
xCamLovex
10-06-2016, 10:15 AM
I so agree with you Jess.
There's a goal to each cam site that is being forgotten right now:
Token sites - be a great host. The objective is to stay getting money in a public room.
Private site - the objective is to be in PAID CHAT. If you are using toys simulating orgasms and entertaining in free chat you aren't in paid chat!
Period. I know all cam sites are having a shit year and that trickles down to models gettin it anyway possible but I think it's integral to keep order in what's what.
every room I click on lately is some sex act right about to happen. The toy is out, it's on their crotch, the panties are barely on...what am I paying for? If she keeps doing that I will cum for free! Yay!
DeepThoughts
10-06-2016, 10:18 AM
I dont know how much other girls have been using the tip activated vibs in free chat but I have had a lot of customers asking me if I have one (and I mean customers who I know pay). They seem to really like them both in guest chat and in private. If they like them that probably means that they are tipping for them and that mean SM is making $$ so I cant really see why they would suddenly ban something that makes them money!
I am now pushing my fans to buy me them, thanks to Hyori for pointing out that there is a wishlist on the lovesense website! If I have one I will tots use it to get more tips in guest chat, Gold Shows and private or exclusive! Money is money!
I dont understand why there is so much hate for those girls who are already making money for them though? It kind of sounds catty to me.
JaneBurgess
10-06-2016, 10:50 AM
so true. I think the tip activated vibes on SM starts a slippery slope to all sorts of fingering, humping and simulated orgasm's in free chat. I use one, I know what they feel like and the faking of convulsions and body spasm's is ridiculous and laughable. It's not a TAZER girls. "don't taz me bro" Like Barney said in "Andy Griffith" .."you gotta nip it! Nip it in the bud" and SM needs to do some nipping and get rid of those toys. (my opinion) they are better suited on the token sites where I use them all the time. Using them on SM encourages too much that isn't allowed in the first place. However I'm beginning to doubt all that with what I've been seeing in free chat. couples practically having sex, girls giving their partner blow jobs...the list goes on and I"m just looking around. Seems on twitter it takes MODELS to turn other models in/report them. Which tells me some one isn't doing their job. I should just mind my own business, but I care about my camsites and WANT to work on one that is cared for also BY it's owner. I lose all respect when all it takes is one great person to do their job. That one great person needs to be a long time Streamate cam girl that knows business and can connect with us. Not some corporate puppet passing out tank tops. That would be ground breaking wouldn't it? Coffee!!!!
Exactly. Im not knocking the performers who use the OhMiBod correctly, Im just pointing out its a great way to pretend your toy slipped and flash your vag. One lady was suspended because she took the toy off and just flashed her vag for tips. If they are going to allow it at least tell them they have to wear panties while using it. I have seen the spasms as well by performers on token sites and I was laughing so hard. Either my toy sucks or they are great actress at acting like it has that much power. The free chat crap needs to be cracked down on and shame on those performers because they know better. Performers turn each other in because they are sick of other performers thinking rules dont apply to them. I think a lot of performers are just tired of losing money for following rules while the rule breakers are making money for being dishonest. Despite what people say what other performers do IS your business since it affects the site and money flow. We all care about the site and it cant change or get better if everyone turns a blind eye to the issues. I also never understood why cam sites dont hire ex cam performers to work with current cam performers. Why not have social media ran by an ex performer? Why not have a cam trainer for your site thats an ex performer? It would be a smart move on cam sites to start doing that.
JaneBurgess
10-06-2016, 11:00 AM
I dont know how much other girls have been using the tip activated vibs in free chat but I have had a lot of customers asking me if I have one (and I mean customers who I know pay). They seem to really like them both in guest chat and in private. If they like them that probably means that they are tipping for them and that mean SM is making $$ so I cant really see why they would suddenly ban something that makes them money!
I am now pushing my fans to buy me them, thanks to Hyori for pointing out that there is a wishlist on the lovesense website! If I have one I will tots use it to get more tips in guest chat, Gold Shows and private or exclusive! Money is money!
I dont understand why there is so much hate for those girls who are already making money for them though? It kind of sounds catty to me.
The money is money theory is the problem. Make your money the way the site has it set up for, not what you think it should be. You are not supposed to fuck your toys in free chat, thats a BIG no and made clear in the rules. OhMiBod is a vibe toy, it doesnt go inside you. A customer tips to make it vibe while its on you, on you is the key word. You arent supposed to move it to flash your vag, you arent supposed to finger yourself while vibbing, etc.
Its not catty to point things out, we all work on the site we all have a right to work in peace. Why should you think your special and say fuck the rules and do whatever you want. You have no right to make my job harder just like I have no right to make your job harder. If everyone just followed the rules you wouldnt have Twitter wars, performers turning each other in, people arguing on here, etc. You also wouldnt have freeloaders because they wouldnt stick around if they werent getting something out of it. When you signed up to the site you signed on the dotted line and that included following the rules of SM.
AnotherLily
10-06-2016, 11:22 AM
It's really annoying when you have ' similar models' doing taboo and banned stuff and guys come and ask if I do that too. Nah bro. I don't .
Erika_Xstacy
10-06-2016, 11:24 AM
The problem is streamate went from a site where you could literally sit on your ass and pull in money bc the rules were strict to streamate being a straight up hustle.
Its hard to change.
No tits for tits, models complained, it changed
no shows over 4.99 and then they bumped to 9.99 and over time it was raised much higher, newer models are put on a tier.
No goldshows, models complained and were going to MFC split camming etc ...
Goldshows work for hustlers. If your not a hustler, its not going to work, men like excitement. It can work if your a model that ignores your room and they know you for that
No splitcam, I personally was banned for this way back in the day, now they allow it if YOU can figure it out which most have.
Models got what they wanted over time but not all wanted this.
Personally I dont know what other models feel but when I read all the negative, I take it personal bc when Im on my shit.. Im playing into fetishes, Im holding goldshows from 2-25 gold buying, I use tip activated toy, Im topless in free chat and sell videos.
Everything that is allowed has boosted my income if I play the game properly.
Streamate still gives the option to sit on your ass and only do privates, I utilize that when I dont feel like doing shit but my income and placement plummets.
I have horrible weeks when Im not hustling and I dig myself a bigger hole, i lose motivation, I wonder where the money is at, Its time to reevaluate myself.
I also know this business is in cycles on streamate as most sites. I have enough years of reports to go back and pin point some of my issues.
I spent a week picking apart my best years earning, my highest sales on what prices, longest privates all that jazz, I went back and watched videos, my performance has gone down. This week I put everything into order, Im busting my ass like I use to and I have proved to myself that my hustle is a big part of my income.:P
Erika_Xstacy
10-06-2016, 11:31 AM
The money is money theory is the problem. Make your money the way the site has it set up for, not what you think it should be. You are not supposed to fuck your toys in free chat, thats a BIG no and made clear in the rules. OhMiBod is a vibe toy, it doesnt go inside you. A customer tips to make it vibe while its on you, on you is the key word. You arent supposed to move it to flash your vag, you arent supposed to finger yourself while vibbing, etc.
Its not catty to point things out, we all work on the site we all have a right to work in peace. Why should you think your special and say fuck the rules and do whatever you want. You have no right to make my job harder just like I have no right to make your job harder. If everyone just followed the rules you wouldnt have Twitter wars, performers turning each other in, people arguing on here, etc. You also wouldnt have freeloaders because they wouldnt stick around if they werent getting something out of it. When you signed up to the site you signed on the dotted line and that included following the rules of SM.
I tell customers they are being taken. Straight up being robbed. its a novelty. They wonder why i dont jump around. It activates with tips and and my voice and More with my voice so when I talk its going off. "Its a novelty". I voice the fact I want the one we can use the show or privates when I give a link. The one thing a regular model does not want to be known for is lying. I dont need to show my toy and dont get why others do. My guys know there is a difference.
Erika_Xstacy
10-06-2016, 11:31 AM
It's really annoying when you have ' similar models' doing taboo and banned stuff and guys come and ask if I do that too. Nah bro. I don't .
i get age play requested recently like crazy.
AnotherLily
10-06-2016, 11:37 AM
Scat, watersports, vomiting, every incest scenario, ageplay, just wtf?!!?
BambiCutie
10-06-2016, 12:37 PM
Oh good..you've noticed too? I'm curious if the rules have changed on SM, more models are taking on taboo requests. Heard everything from incest, 12 yo daddy rp, vomit, urine play to f**king w clear pussy view in free chat. Still won't risk my account getting removed/flagged by offering anything under 18yo..just crazy top ranks can pull it off.. /:O