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Erika_Xstacy
01-14-2017, 12:24 PM
Is there a way to just click a button and see how much we have made for the previous year? All in 1 shot? So far I can only find " previous payments" , select the year and starts adding it all up , week by week. So time consuming.
if you get direct deposit, go into the year and pull all deposits from icf, at the end will be the grand total.
Marina Starr
01-17-2017, 04:31 PM
Just got my tax return from Streamate today. For those of you that hoe on the low,
it does say ICF Technology Inc on the outside and inside.
Marina Starr
01-17-2017, 06:54 PM
Worked for me with Chrome. Have you try restarting your computer?
Anybody else having trouble logging in? In IE and chrome it initially pulls up the page for me, but when I try to log in it says "This page can't be displayed" in IE, and in Chrome it says "This site can't be reached."
thatgingercamgirl
01-17-2017, 07:03 PM
Nah, it turned out to be an issue with cammodels.com, which is what I usually use to log in - old habit from my old studio. It turns out streamatemodels.com works just fine :D Major thanks to BK from BoleynModels for helping me figure that out!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-19-2017, 03:09 PM
So who's gonna be the first to download SM BroadcastV20? I'm gonna let y'all go first. :)
CharleyQuinn
01-19-2017, 03:12 PM
Nope. I'm clutching my Adobe encoder like a security blanket (heh, sometimes new things scare me)
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-19-2017, 03:30 PM
Nope. I'm clutching my Adobe encoder like a security blanket (heh, sometimes new things scare me)
Maybe I will do it. I always use the OBS encoder but Im curious to see what the SM broadcast looks like? It has a new design.
Chellyinparadise
01-19-2017, 03:49 PM
I downloaded it trying it out tonight wish me luck haha
SoloDesire
01-19-2017, 03:50 PM
So who's gonna be the first to download SM BroadcastV20? I'm gonna let y'all go first. :)
I've downloaded it and began using it. It's working fine for me, but I never have had problems with SMB. I like it okay. I don't like that I have to add a "widget" now to see my stats, but I'm not a big complainer.
Marina Starr
01-19-2017, 03:55 PM
I've downloaded just to have it but not really excited. I like the flash encoder and will continue to use it.
Marina Starr
01-19-2017, 04:14 PM
I was told you could splitcam with the new SMB?
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-19-2017, 04:46 PM
I was told you could splitcam with the new SMB?
I just downloaded it and it still doesn't recognize splitcam software in the dropdown for camera. Oh well OBS it is
Cutie101
01-19-2017, 10:52 PM
Am I the only one who sees herself kinda pixelated in the SMB, even the stats show that I am streaming on highest quality?
Blovely
01-20-2017, 01:00 AM
Am I the only one who sees herself kinda pixelated in the SMB, even the stats show that I am streaming on highest quality?
No you aren't, a few ladies stated the same thing in the SM vent thread.
Sally Says
01-20-2017, 02:37 AM
apparently it clears up when you broadcast
smb will NEVER let you split cam because its against the rules on streamate.
Sunnylexie
01-20-2017, 03:15 AM
When did it become against the SM rules to splitcam? 0_o
Sunnylexie
01-20-2017, 03:23 AM
I don't like that I have to add a "widget" now to see my stats, but I'm not a big complainer.
I'm hating it because it's breaking my whole screen setup. I used to have it all sitting neat and snug with the browser, the SMB, a text doc for notes and a music player. Now I just can't fit everything so it's acessible and visible. WHYYY did they have to put the necessary functions like recording and stream stats into those HUGE separate windows.
Sally Says
01-20-2017, 07:49 AM
When did it become against the SM rules to splitcam? 0_o
It has been for as long as ive used SM, they own your stream, which is why when they record your private shows you cant really do anything about it but opt out of marketing. from the agreement:
Performer/Studio will upload and transmit content in the form of images, video, sounds, and/or text (referred to herein as “content”) to and through Streamate’s systems for re-broadcast. All content uploaded to the systems by Performer/Studio shall be works made for hire under the United States Copyright Act, as amended, to the extent eligible; otherwise, Performer/Studio hereby assigns all rights, title and interests in such content to Streamate. Streamate shall then own all such content, and Streamate will have the sole discretion to use any such content in any way it so chooses, including but not limited to in any medium and in any promotion, distribution, advertising, sales and marketing efforts, both during and after the term of this Agreement.
so basically they own anything we broadcast on sm and if we broadcast that same image anywhere else we are stealing from them.
SoloDesire
01-20-2017, 08:34 AM
I'm hating it because it's breaking my whole screen setup. I used to have it all sitting neat and snug with the browser, the SMB, a text doc for notes and a music player. Now I just can't fit everything so it's acessible and visible. WHYYY did they have to put the necessary functions like recording and stream stats into those HUGE separate windows.
Well you can just hit the "x" and remove them. That's what I did. And if I want to look at something I'll just go to "add widget" to take a look at my stats and then remove it again. You don't have to keep all that junk visible.
~Carmen~
01-20-2017, 08:57 AM
It looks to me that we will need to click the recording option every time we open the broadcaster.
kortneykay
01-20-2017, 08:58 AM
The other way to split cam with sm is to just purchase a 2nd cam and use your Webcam splitter. I mean that's how I split cam anyway. Go on break mode on sm when you get a show elsewhere.
CocoaBunni
01-20-2017, 09:02 AM
So is it safe to say you ladies wish you hadn't updated the sb encoder? I'm sitting on the fence on if I should or not... :/
CocoaBunni
01-20-2017, 09:04 AM
The other way to split cam with sm is to just purchase a 2nd cam and use your Webcam splitter. I mean that's how I split cam anyway. Go on break mode on sm when you get a show elsewhere.
I was going to try that but I read on here that someone said they pressed the break button and people could still see her.
So is it safe to say you ladies wish you hadn't updated the sb encoder? I'm sitting on the fence on if I should or not... :/
I tried it, didn't work like it should for me and I went back to the old one. Now that one is giving me flack. I haven't changed ANYTHING on my end. Last week I had a decent week. This week- FML. I can't cam on there like this. It's not worth it.
CharleyQuinn
01-20-2017, 12:40 PM
I was going to try that but I read on here that someone said they pressed the break button and people could still see her.
Whatttttt? I really hope that's not true.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-20-2017, 12:42 PM
It has been for as long as ive used SM, they own your stream, which is why when they record your private shows you cant really do anything about it but opt out of marketing. from the agreement:
Performer/Studio will upload and transmit content in the form of images, video, sounds, and/or text (referred to herein as “content”) to and through Streamate’s systems for re-broadcast. All content uploaded to the systems by Performer/Studio shall be works made for hire under the United States Copyright Act, as amended, to the extent eligible; otherwise, Performer/Studio hereby assigns all rights, title and interests in such content to Streamate. Streamate shall then own all such content, and Streamate will have the sole discretion to use any such content in any way it so chooses, including but not limited to in any medium and in any promotion, distribution, advertising, sales and marketing efforts, both during and after the term of this Agreement.
so basically they own anything we broadcast on sm and if we broadcast that same image anywhere else we are stealing from them.
That doesn't say that they have exclusive rights to all content streamed on their site. Its pretty obvious that they don't want people splitcamming but that doesn't mean that you can't do it.
~Carmen~
01-20-2017, 12:50 PM
I tried it, didn't work like it should for me and I went back to the old one. Now that one is giving me flack. I haven't changed ANYTHING on my end. Last week I had a decent week. This week- FML. I can't cam on there like this. It's not worth it.
I thought it was okay at first but I changed my mind. Today was the worst day I have had in a long time. I'm going to go try going back to the old one tomorrow.
IvyRose
01-20-2017, 12:53 PM
So is it safe to say you ladies wish you hadn't updated the sb encoder? I'm sitting on the fence on if I should or not... :/
I still use the old encoder (Flash media 3.0) It doesnt effect my money.. Whenever the site is glitching it does effect my money
Right now a lot of cams are lagging, blacking out and pixelating on the website (when I enter the freechatrooms)
Sunnylexie
01-20-2017, 01:00 PM
Well you can just hit the "x" and remove them. That's what I did. And if I want to look at something I'll just go to "add widget" to take a look at my stats and then remove it again. You don't have to keep all that junk visible.
That would take:
1) bringing the cursor to and clicking on the menu icon;
2) finding the the right widget on the dropdown list and clicking it;
3) LOOKING at it;
4) closing the widget;
5) resizing the window back to the compact size because it wouldn't shrink itself
- VS
1) just LOOKING at it (or bringing the cursor to an already visible box and clicking on it if you want to record a show),
without making all the unnecessary movements.
Besides just being annoying, it takes time: the precious minutes of my life I could've spent being productive or having rest.
IMO, the recording box/stream health were great where they used to be. When my feed was crap, I could see it right off, not after an half an hour of silence had given me a suspicion my video might be shitty and got me bring that widget up and see.
CocoaBunni
01-20-2017, 02:43 PM
Whatttttt? I really hope that's not true.
I saw it in one of these streamate threads but I havent tried it for myself because with my luck it would happen to me too. At the sametime I havent seen anyone else say it happend to them too. So idk :/
CocoaBunni
01-20-2017, 02:47 PM
I tried it, didn't work like it should for me and I went back to the old one. Now that one is giving me flack. I haven't changed ANYTHING on my end. Last week I had a decent week. This week- FML. I can't cam on there like this. It's not worth it.
Yea I just dont have it in me to sit through the glitches too thats why I've been focusing on skype more lately. Tried sm last night and a guest confirmed my shit is glitching too :( its hard because I miss the good money I used to make on there.
Blovely
01-20-2017, 05:35 PM
It has been for as long as ive used SM, they own your stream, which is why when they record your private shows you cant really do anything about it but opt out of marketing. from the agreement:
Performer/Studio will upload and transmit content in the form of images, video, sounds, and/or text (referred to herein as “content”) to and through Streamate’s systems for re-broadcast. All content uploaded to the systems by Performer/Studio shall be works made for hire under the United States Copyright Act, as amended, to the extent eligible; otherwise, Performer/Studio hereby assigns all rights, title and interests in such content to Streamate. Streamate shall then own all such content, and Streamate will have the sole discretion to use any such content in any way it so chooses, including but not limited to in any medium and in any promotion, distribution, advertising, sales and marketing efforts, both during and after the term of this Agreement.
so basically they own anything we broadcast on sm and if we broadcast that same image anywhere else we are stealing from them.
Kind of off topic but I feel like if SM(and camsites in general) don't want us to splitcam they should create an environment where we shouldn't have to split instead of trying to force us not to. I would happily not split if they fixed their glitches, provided great traffic like they once did, gave better support and were more model friendly/listened to models.
Chellyinparadise
01-20-2017, 06:36 PM
^^^ and a little increase in our percentage for payout would be nice even if they did it based on time with them or even in general, just increase it somehow would be awesome and would make the models not only work more but happy and happy equals money for all.
BadBitch
01-20-2017, 06:40 PM
I can't find the option to record shows with the new SM Broadcaster. Do you girls know?
Chellyinparadise
01-20-2017, 06:51 PM
I can't find the option to record shows with the new SM Broadcaster. Do you girls know?
Its under add widget and then video recording
IvyRose
01-20-2017, 07:40 PM
Get on cam bb's!
I just logged out, but hot damn, sm got its shit together right now
BTW i am still broadcasting through the flash media live encoder 3.1
had a lot of gangbangs at the end
ep2002
01-20-2017, 07:43 PM
Hi Gals,
How are you doing?
So I have 2 questions:
1. I see the first thread from years ago stated to always say hi & welcome guys when they come into your room & I used to do that, but then I read on the other cam forum that guys don't like that. They want to see how you are first before being forced into talking with you, so I stopped. Even guys said that.
Thoughts?
2. I no longer rush to go nude or show pussy unless they have taken me for at least 10-15 minutes & a lot of them just demand this right away. Does anyone else have the same rule & if yes, what do you say when they ask?
I tell them if they tip me X gold I will go nude right away & they just leave.
Thanks :)
laurielegs
01-20-2017, 07:54 PM
Hi Gals,
How are you doing?
So I have 2 questions:
1. I see the first thread from years ago stated to always say hi & welcome guys when they come into your room & I used to do that, but then I read on the other cam forum that guys don't like that. They want to see how you are first before being forced into talking with you, so I stopped. Even guys said that.
Thoughts?
2. I no longer rush to go nude or show pussy unless they have taken me for at least 10-15 minutes & a lot of them just demand this right away. Does anyone else have the same rule & if yes, what do you say when they ask?
I tell them if they tip me X gold I will go nude right away & they just leave.
Thanks :)
I never ask for a tip after they are already paying. I'm not surprised they are leaving when you do that.
I think it's fine to wait until they ask before getting nude, (some guys don't even want nudity) but making them be in private for 15 minutes even after they ask seems excessive. Why are you doing that? It doesn't seem to be working for you from what you say.
I suspect maybe you aren't charging enough to make it seem worth it to you. Maybe raise your prices and you won't mind getting nude faster?
IvyRose
01-20-2017, 08:01 PM
Hi Gals,
How are you doing?
So I have 2 questions:
1. I see the first thread from years ago stated to always say hi & welcome guys when they come into your room & I used to do that, but then I read on the other cam forum that guys don't like that. They want to see how you are first before being forced into talking with you, so I stopped. Even guys said that.
Thoughts?
2. I no longer rush to go nude or show pussy unless they have taken me for at least 10-15 minutes & a lot of them just demand this right away. Does anyone else have the same rule & if yes, what do you say when they ask?
I tell them if they tip me X gold I will go nude right away & they just leave.
Thanks :)
I never welcome with names anymore neither unless they adress me first. They can be kinda shy, and like you I notice they leave faster when being greeted by there name
I just welcome all of them in general, that works fine. I never push for pvt or excl neither. I do mention sometimes in freechat that i dont mind short shows when I have a really full room and I dont know any of those guys. (I am kinda expensive, and I get it that they maybe wanna try out a bit before taking me on long.. also i dont want them to feel bad if they only last a short while)
#2 I never ask for a tip, unless it is a findom dude offc. I dont rush neither, I just go ahead and start talking about what we are going to do (getting naked/having fun/getting all wet for him) while still moving around and slowly stripping everything off. I just mindfuck them, by letting them know how great it is gonna be without being there yet
It takes me around 4 minutes to be full naked (I am faster if it is a reg who is only into hardcore fucking/caveman ripping off clothing style can be fun too)
A satisfied customer is more worth to me than stretching the show to thin. Offc if he is big into teasing I stretch the foreplay
ep2002
01-20-2017, 09:34 PM
Thanks ladies.
I started it b/c one day I happened across that studio (can't remember the name of it, starts with a "b") was advertising work for models & in one of their points they said to layer as many clothes as possible so it takes longer to get to nude. Then one of their other tips was from a girl who makes a lot of money. She NEVER goes nude right away. She said that if they want to see her nude, they have to make it worth her while & I realized I was getting nude too quickly.
Why should you get nude within 2 minutes? I don't think it's worth it. Not to mention that I get VERY testy when guys think I'm a robot & just order me around. I'd rather lose the session than be treated like garbage like that.
I've raised my prices pretty high. I'm at 3.99 now.
For me the odd guy wants a long show, the rest all want 2-5 minutes. So rather than tell them NO I'm not going to get nude right away or play with myself right away (they want that also within 2 mins.), I was giving them the option to pay me gold & I will. This way they can leave right afterward. It's not b/c I'm being a bitch wanting tips. I would never do that.
As for asking them in public if they want a pvt, I do do that if they've come into my room at least 3 times & never taken me pvt. Or, if they just sit there & say nothing, or they start talking sex talk & I'm not sure if they are a freeloader or serious. 99% of the time when the guy is sex talking they are a FREELOADER.
Thanks again :)
heyho
01-20-2017, 10:31 PM
^mate. I say this with all the love - 3.99 is not high, 3.99 is LOW. I'm at 5.99 pvt and 8.99 exclusive, and I am not considered high-priced. You're getting the cheapskate tier of customers with your price being under $5, and you should at least try a week or two of higher prices and see if it works for you.
That said I agree with laurielegs, waiting 10-15mins to get naked is excessive. Obviously don't get naked in under 2 minutes, but aim for around 5. Guys get impatient, and an impatient guy is only thinking about the money he's spending to watch a girl with tons of clothes on. He can go outside and see clothed women anyday. A horny guy wants to be titillated, and when he's staring at your bare tits he will be happy to let his money bleed out while he's watching you rub em slowly for 5 minutes. Go slow while always giving them something. Just make that something last long. That's my strategy. Also I never ask for tips for anything in paidchat, because I charge enough to make me feel happy to be ordered around.
Psychologically, a guy in paidchat has already mentally made peace with the constant bleed of his 3.99 (5.99 in my case) a min. You ask for a tip on TOP of that, he'll be thinking whaaat more money, this is a rip-off. So don't give him that chance. Put your basic price up.
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In other news, has anyone figured out why SMB is so fricken pixelated yet? It seems even worse today!
laurielegs
01-20-2017, 11:56 PM
Thanks ladies.
I started it b/c one day I happened across that studio (can't remember the name of it, starts with a "b") was advertising work for models & in one of their points they said to layer as many clothes as possible so it takes longer to get to nude. Then one of their other tips was from a girl who makes a lot of money. She NEVER goes nude right away. She said that if they want to see her nude, they have to make it worth her while & I realized I was getting nude too quickly.
Why should you get nude within 2 minutes? I don't think it's worth it. Not to mention that I get VERY testy when guys think I'm a robot & just order me around. I'd rather lose the session than be treated like garbage like that.
I've raised my prices pretty high. I'm at 3.99 now.
and those studios are ridiculous in some of their advice. They don't have a clue what works in the real world and what high earners do in their cam rooms. Watch what top hosts do, not studios.
For me the odd guy wants a long show, the rest all want 2-5 minutes. So rather than tell them NO I'm not going to get nude right away or play with myself right away (they want that also within 2 mins.), I was giving them the option to pay me gold & I will. This way they can leave right afterward. It's not b/c I'm being a bitch wanting tips. I would never do that.
I agree with heyho that 3.99 is low, especially if you are on a high traffic site where guys are used to paying at least 5.99 to 9.99 and even more. I'd consider raising that price and that way those 5 minute shows add up to a nice fat paycheck.
IvyRose
01-21-2017, 07:11 AM
Thanks ladies.
I started it b/c one day I happened across that studio (can't remember the name of it, starts with a "b") was advertising work for models & in one of their points they said to layer as many clothes as possible so it takes longer to get to nude. Then one of their other tips was from a girl who makes a lot of money. She NEVER goes nude right away. She said that if they want to see her nude, they have to make it worth her while & I realized I was getting nude too quickly.
Why should you get nude within 2 minutes? I don't think it's worth it. Not to mention that I get VERY testy when guys think I'm a robot & just order me around. I'd rather lose the session than be treated like garbage like that.
I've raised my prices pretty high. I'm at 3.99 now.
For me the odd guy wants a long show, the rest all want 2-5 minutes. So rather than tell them NO I'm not going to get nude right away or play with myself right away (they want that also within 2 mins.), I was giving them the option to pay me gold & I will. This way they can leave right afterward. It's not b/c I'm being a bitch wanting tips. I would never do that.
As for asking them in public if they want a pvt, I do do that if they've come into my room at least 3 times & never taken me pvt. Or, if they just sit there & say nothing, or they start talking sex talk & I'm not sure if they are a freeloader or serious. 99% of the time when the guy is sex talking they are a FREELOADER.
Thanks again :)
keep in mind 4.99 (the preset rates ranging from 0.99 - 4.99) is not the max you can ask per minute
19.99 a min is the maximum you can ask. If you want to be able to raise your rates above 4.99 just email the streamate staff https://streamatehelp.com/support/
seems like (eastern) studios advertise more on low prices combined with a lot of stretching the show and a lot of clothing
A lot of guys know that though, not everyone is into that. But hey whn a girl is only asking 0,99 it kinda makes sense
You are with your prices on the high end compared to a studio, but compared to selfemployd models on a normal/low scale
you seem to base your opinion on a studio girl who makes a lot. but "a lot" is different to everyone. may be her high is low to someone else, or maybe not... who knows?
Its diff to compare, styles and husttes
some days are great, some are less, sometimes your lucky, some have more energy and stamina than others etc etc
kortneykay
01-21-2017, 09:56 AM
I was going to try that but I read on here that someone said they pressed the break button and people could still see her.
I've never had an issue with this. The guys tell me it just says "On Break". Trust me, if they could see me while in break mode (I leave the room because it's usually a pso call) they wouldn't leave the room half the time.
Some guys will sit and wait for you, but most leave because they can't see anything. You can always tell because you'll have a room full of guys, then once you hit that break button they disappear like magicians. They can't see shit.
I also revert my cam or leave the room. If I'm doing a skype show, I'll log off SM. If it's another show, I'll use the other cam and revert/mute the SM one while in break mode. Either way, they all tell me it says I'm on break.
imelly21
01-21-2017, 10:11 AM
Get on cam bb's!
I just logged out, but hot damn, sm got its shit together right now
BTW i am still broadcasting through the flash media live encoder 3.1
had a lot of gangbangs at the end
I wonder how come you are not losing your placement. SM warned us long time ago that if we do not switch to the new broadcaster, the position will drop.
ep2002
01-21-2017, 10:13 AM
Ok, I'll go back to what I was doing before & raise the price.
Just to be clear, I do show my breasts, I just don't get fully nude or my pussy.
Thanks & have a great wknd. :)
IvyRose
01-21-2017, 10:15 AM
Ok, I'll go back to what I was doing before & raise the price.
Just to be clear, I do show my breasts, I just don't get fully nude or my pussy.
Thanks & have a great wknd. :)
Have a great weekend ep
just do whatever makes you more money and whatever makes you the happiest
=)
IvyRose
01-21-2017, 10:21 AM
I wonder how come you are not losing your placement. SM warned us long time ago that if we do not switch to the new broadcaster, the position will drop.
I dont know neither.
My guess is that they just wanna push everyone to use the new broadcaster, so splitcamming is more difficult
Like when they introduced the "My ranking tool"
everyone was kinda biting into it, even though they state the following above all the ranking factors "NOTE: Having an "Excellent" grade on any or all factors does not guarantee or imply ranking on the front page of the site"
I never noticed a drop in income (I do when the whole website is glitching ofcourse, but other than that I havent had any problems)
Neither have I noticed less guys in my freechat
I do not check my placement though because i Cant (my country is blocked)
Katy (boleynmodels) once wrote down a lot of important factors that contribute on the placement
I think it still comes down big time (but not exclusively) to average $ per hour, doesnt really matter what kind of broadcaster you use... But maybe they are still transitioning and they will kick my sorry ass down page in the future (for not using the new broadcast thyingy)
PS i just love the old encoider so much more, maybe it is also my energy that attracts more customers when using that old thing. I just love the soft glow it gives instead of the crispy hard hd look of the new broadcaster
imelly21
01-21-2017, 12:33 PM
@Ivy
Thank you for replying and thank you so much for not taking it personally. It is interesting if after all these new tools, broadcasters and such, the $/hour is still the major factor in placement. I miss using Abobe too and you are so right. This HD is so clear it is hard to not be self-conscious about everything , all the time.
Edit: I did try Abobe a long time ago ( after switching to the new broadcaster) and my position did drop a few rows. You are making me want to try it again but I will resist the urge.
IvyRose
01-21-2017, 12:39 PM
@Ivy
Thank you for replying and thank you so much for not taking it personally. It is interesting if after all these new tools, broadcasters and such, the $/hour is still the major factor in placement. I miss using Abobe too and you are so right. This HD is so clear it is hard to not be self-conscious about everything , all the time.
Edit: I did try Abobe a long time ago ( after switching to the new broadcaster) and my position did drop a few rows. You are making me want to try it again but I will resist the urge.
I just tried the new smbroadcast. I really dont like it, image wise (hard hd). I had the same amount of customers in freechat
I did landed a couple of pvts though, and the 30minutes earlier using the encoder I did not
I dont know if it is bec of the broadcaster though or bec I was logged in longer/lucky
Ill experiment more tonight. My first pick is still the encoder though, because I dont really like looking at myself through the hd sm broadcaster