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Genoveve
10-13-2017, 09:03 PM
Mind sharing your list of things to do? I’m getting super tired of playing Mahjong and putting stuff out n my cart on Amazon that I won’t ever buy lol

Mostly research stuff.

christylive
10-15-2017, 05:09 AM
Anyone else having this problem with the Sm shitcaster ???? I’m guessing this is what would be causing all the lagging that guys have been complaining about lately? I had this problem last week where the numbers where ALL over the place.

49007

christylive
10-15-2017, 05:32 AM
Was able to stream for 15 min no issues than BOOM got knocked off soon as someone went private. no wonder I skipped Sm yesterday

christylive
10-15-2017, 06:03 AM
Conveniently when i get a private I’m knocked off line. Yet I can stream in free chat now. Anyone else having hell this morning ?

nicole88
10-15-2017, 10:51 AM
this happens to me! but I'm not kicked offline the private ends up freezing and then everyone leaves my private at the same time!

Genoveve
10-15-2017, 12:29 PM
Conveniently when i get a private I’m knocked off line. Yet I can stream in free chat now. Anyone else having hell this morning ?


Do you have Adapting Streaming enabled? I logged on today, everything was fine, then right away as soon as I entered my first pvt my fps plummeted down to 1, stayed there and then booted me. I realized my Adaptive Streaming button wasn't on(I turned it off yesterday and forgot). I turned it back on and everything has been fine.

christylive
10-15-2017, 09:27 PM
49009
Do you have Adapting Streaming enabled? I logged on today, everything was fine, then right away as soon as I entered my first pvt my fps plummeted down to 1, stayed there and then booted me. I realized my Adaptive Streaming button wasn't on(I turned it off yesterday and forgot). I turned it back on and everything has been fine.

Yep, I have it enabled. I managed to stream 30 solid minutes. Whatever’s going on isn’t just me cause studio girls in same city as me are having the same problem and girls in different parts of the country are experiencing these wonky numbers and custies complaining of lagging. Lots of rooms where lips aren’t matching with audio.


That frame drop will happen right after logging on but if I’m lucky it happens 5 minutes after logging in and all this morning god for bid someone tried to go private the frames would drop even more and than I’d get hit with streamate box that says I lost streaming connection

49010

coco789
10-19-2017, 03:01 PM
Any way to turn off messaging on SM? I'd like to only get inbox mail from Streamte...no members #AntisocialCamgirl

Genoveve
10-19-2017, 03:17 PM
49009

Yep, I have it enabled. I managed to stream 30 solid minutes. Whatever’s going on isn’t just me cause studio girls in same city as me are having the same problem and girls in different parts of the country are experiencing these wonky numbers and custies complaining of lagging. Lots of rooms where lips aren’t matching with audio.


That frame drop will happen right after logging on but if I’m lucky it happens 5 minutes after logging in and all this morning god for bid someone tried to go private the frames would drop even more and than I’d get hit with streamate box that says I lost streaming connection

49010

1.) Are you hardwired? (I'm assuming yes) 2.) Some fps fluctuation seems to be normal and mine seems to have a tendency to act up more when there gets to be around 1800 chicks online, but it seems like the only time it drops me so low that it disconnects me is when my internet speeds are fluctuating. We are guaranteed certain speeds by our ISP but we're not going to have those speeds 100% of the time, there are going to be little drops or fluctuations here and there which usually aren't a big deal and usually aren't even noticeable, but with the SM software it will be noticeable. My fps was dropping so low the other day to where it was disconnecting me which hasn't happened to me in ages, I tested my speeds and they were fine. Right after that I tested them again and all of the sudden my download speed was half of what it usually is and my ping was 0 instead of the usual 9, so my speeds were fluctuating. In like 30 minutes it went back to normal. 3.) I have found that having youtube open in another tab makes my fps drop more than normal, which baffles me since it doesn't affect my CPU or anything, but I never do it now and just play music off of youtube on another laptop while I work.

jazzygirl08
10-19-2017, 03:47 PM
Not sure if anyone knows this user but they go by invisable. Has this person ever come to your room and just sit there and not say anything?
Also it seems like it does not get very busy between five p.m. and 4 40ish is this because the customers are not off from work yet or have not gotten home? Has it been very slow lately and why?

LizzyMe
10-19-2017, 08:58 PM
From what the guys are telling me, some of them are having a hard time staying connected thru their mobile devices. I am sure that the glitches are turning the guys off from using the site. That is a one reason why it is slow. I had a guys lose his stream on his laptop computer and come back to Exclusive 3 times in a row today just so we could finish the show. The last thing a guy wants to worry about when he is about to cum, is if he is going to stay connected long enough to cum when he wants to. Kinda takes all the fun out of it.

I had a guy last week who bought a Block Session. He disconnected 3 times, lost money on the Block. He tipped me and said "Sorry". He told me that he was going to contact support to get his money back and that even thou he likes me, he is going to find another network to get cam shows on.

All during the glitches for these guys, my computer was fine. Ugh!

minniesoporno
10-19-2017, 09:36 PM
From what the guys are telling me, some of them are having a hard time staying connected thru their mobile devices. I am sure that the glitches are turning the guys off from using the site. That is a one reason why it is slow. I had a guys lose his stream on his laptop computer and come back to Exclusive 3 times in a row today just so we could finish the show. The last thing a guy wants to worry about when he is about to cum, is if he is going to stay connected long enough to cum when he wants to. Kinda takes all the fun out of it.

I had a guy last week who bought a Block Session. He disconnected 3 times, lost money on the Block. He tipped me and said "Sorry". He told me that he was going to contact support to get his money back and that even thou he likes me, he is going to find another network to get cam shows on.

All during the glitches for these guys, my computer was fine. Ugh!

Right now a lot of cam site are in a growing pain stage. because flash is dying and they have to make changes to the new technology between the demand of mobile and general live streaming technology pretty much every website has to adjust to keep up with what is happening.

LizzyMe
10-19-2017, 10:03 PM
Right now a lot of cam site are in a growing pain stage. because flash is dying and they have to make changes to the new technology between the demand of mobile and general live streaming technology pretty much every website has to adjust to keep up with what is happening.

Minnie,

Yes, I realize that Flash is dying and the cam sites are making changes. It does take time to work out the kinks and technology is not perfect and I assume it never will be.

I have cammed on other sites. Streamate has the WORST glitches of all of them for me. It is not just when the guys are using mobile, but also when they are hardwired too. Along with phone and sound for some models. I luckily do not experience the glitches with customers all the time, but when it does happen, it is not fun to lose money and potential customers. The glitches did get better for awhile, but now with the new Broadcaster, they have come back in full force again. I use an excellent computer, with a solid connection and do not split cam when streaming on SM and there are still way more glitches on SM then there are on other sites that I have cammed on.

christylive
10-20-2017, 04:14 AM
1.) Are you hardwired? (I'm assuming yes) 2.) Some fps fluctuation seems to be normal and mine seems to have a tendency to act up more when there gets to be around 1800 chicks online, but it seems like the only time it drops me so low that it disconnects me is when my internet speeds are fluctuating. We are guaranteed certain speeds by our ISP but we're not going to have those speeds 100% of the time, there are going to be little drops or fluctuations here and there which usually aren't a big deal and usually aren't even noticeable, but with the SM software it will be noticeable. My fps was dropping so low the other day to where it was disconnecting me which hasn't happened to me in ages, I tested my speeds and they were fine. Right after that I tested them again and all of the sudden my download speed was half of what it usually is and my ping was 0 instead of the usual 9, so my speeds were fluctuating. In like 30 minutes it went back to normal. 3.) I have found that having youtube open in another tab makes my fps drop more than normal, which baffles me since it doesn't affect my CPU or anything, but I never do it now and just play music off of youtube on another laptop while I work.

Thanks my beautiful for replying..
yes, I’m always hardwired because way back in the day I was always told hardwired is better than WiFi so ever since I’m faithful to hardwired connection. Just to play it safe I had my house rewired and a new modem installed. They checked the levels and signals and everything checked out. I run speed test faithfully on both my providers website so they can view the log If needed and than on other sites not related to my provider. I submitted all of the requested info to tech support as well as Liz (who is always a big help) and tech support told her to tell me I need better lighting, but also they confirmed the setup/specs are good on my end. Now, I’m never against taking the blame if it’s my fault, I can totally pick up my girl panties and take an L if this happens to be be case when I get a lighting set my next check. But I’m wondering how so many of us all over the place in different locations are having he same glitches, I mean, we all don’t have the same set up and internet.... oh and, I never stream videos or watch anything when I cam. I recently bought a fan/stand for my laptop because I read on google it’s reccomended? LoL. I’m really an airhead with tech stuff but I’m tryig :)

Scorpio Girl
10-20-2017, 05:14 PM
Not sure if anyone knows this user but they go by invisable. Has this person ever come to your room and just sit there and not say anything?
Also it seems like it does not get very busy between five p.m. and 4 40ish is this because the customers are not off from work yet or have not gotten home? Has it been very slow lately and why?

Yes, I've had invisible. He never says anything, just sits there forever. Won't say anything if you try to talk to him either. I finally banned him.

jazzygirl08
10-20-2017, 08:51 PM
Hows Streammate looking tonight or today ? SLow like yesterday? I thought about logging on but did not feel like wasting time logging on.

christylive
10-20-2017, 10:27 PM
Hows Streammate looking tonight or today ? SLow like yesterday? I thought about logging on but did not feel like wasting time logging on.

I woke up and rolled over.. went back to sleep...

minniesoporno
10-22-2017, 10:42 PM
I am looking to buy new computers for myself for Christmas.

Just wondering if using the SMbroadcaster is worth it. I've mostly been using FMLE.

Sunnylexie
10-23-2017, 05:11 AM
Today's been like I'm invisible. I planned to do something good for the Halloween but now I doubt if I should because spending money on a costume to show it off to an empty room would just suck. With how slow SM has been for me these months, I'd rather have some extra food and rent money.

heyho
10-23-2017, 06:40 PM
I am looking to buy new computers for myself for Christmas.

Just wondering if using the SMbroadcaster is worth it. I've mostly been using FMLE.

SMB is some bullshit. In both FMLE and SMB I broadcast at the same, highest quality streaming settings, yet FMLE uses less than 20% of my CPU while SMB uses 75-100%. For no discernable reason, no noticeable change in quality. So I only use FMLE, because why would I put my computer through SMB's fuckery? What kind of extra behind-the-scenes shady shit in their programme is using up so much CPU? *conspiracy eyes* >.>

Scorpio Girl
10-23-2017, 07:54 PM
Today's been like I'm invisible. I planned to do something good for the Halloween but now I doubt if I should because spending money on a costume to show it off to an empty room would just suck. With how slow SM has been for me these months, I'd rather have some extra food and rent money.

I'm not even doing a real Halloween costume. Last year, I made $0 on Halloween. I normally don't cam on Tuesdays, and I'm not working on my day off to make no money. I will be working Monday night which will be during the contest and my traffic is always crap during the contests. Maybe I'll come up with something that could look like kind of a costume out of stuff I have here, but I'm not buying anything.

KatM
10-24-2017, 09:57 AM
SMB is some bullshit. In both FMLE and SMB I broadcast at the same, highest quality streaming settings, yet FMLE uses less than 20% of my CPU while SMB uses 75-100%. For no discernable reason, no noticeable change in quality. So I only use FMLE, because why would I put my computer through SMB's fuckery? What kind of extra behind-the-scenes shady shit in their programme is using up so much CPU? *conspiracy eyes* >.>

Exactly my situation, my pc is using all it's power when i stream with SMB, it's like i hear aircrafts taking off constantly, the noise is stressing me out cause i have the feeling the machine will explode so i just gave up on it and use fmle, the CPU is nice and quiet and uses maybe 50% max workforce while SMB used from 65% to 100%, not good, seriously now! I dont even split, i only cam on SM.

christylive
10-27-2017, 07:51 AM
Anyone else having guys say they can’t go priv/exc ? WTH is this witchcraft? Never fails it’s hell 3.0 right before a contest and a few days after one ends.

christylive
10-28-2017, 08:25 AM
Just had a private and it was something like user_fjdjdjejsj474838 and while in the private someone came into free chat with the SAME exact name as the guy in my private except the last number was different. WTH


Side note: these guys are out in full force right now

JackAlexander
10-30-2017, 07:57 PM
I'm not even doing a real Halloween costume. Last year, I made $0 on Halloween. I normally don't cam on Tuesdays, and I'm not working on my day off to make no money. I will be working Monday night which will be during the contest and my traffic is always crap during the contests. Maybe I'll come up with something that could look like kind of a costume out of stuff I have here, but I'm not buying anything.

I do not mind working the majority of holidays, but Halloween... I have tried and tried and tried.. costume, no costume, nope, and now there is a context, helllzzzz nope

ElenaEclair
10-30-2017, 10:14 PM
So Adobe has discontinued FMLE and I can't download it. SMB is the worst and it makes my computer work way too hard. Are there any other options?

Girly_Girl
10-31-2017, 10:18 AM
How long does a custy have to stay in block for us to get paid the full amount?

SoloDesire
10-31-2017, 11:15 AM
How long does a custy have to stay in block for us to get paid the full amount?

This is something we don't really want to make public or else customers might take advantage by seeing it posted here. You can PM me though.

Blovely
10-31-2017, 02:08 PM
So Adobe has discontinued FMLE and I can't download it. SMB is the worst and it makes my computer work way too hard. Are there any other options?
OBS is the other alternative. Here's the official thread OBS Open Broadcaster Software as an Alternative to Flash Media Encoder (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?199503-OBS-Open-Broadcaster-Software-as-an-Alternative-to-Flash-Media-Encoder)

JaneBurgess
11-01-2017, 10:40 PM
A customer told me tonight that the site is running commercials on Comedy Central that says the site is free and doesnt mention a word about having to pay. If thats true that would explain why so many freeloaders are on there now and wont pay a dime. Im going to record stuff on there late at night and try to get the commercial.

sexyadrienne
11-02-2017, 08:47 AM
A customer told me tonight that the site is running commercials on Comedy Central that says the site is free and doesnt mention a word about having to pay. If thats true that would explain why so many freeloaders are on there now and wont pay a dime. Im going to record stuff on there late at night and try to get the commercial.

If the traffic is coming off of Comedy Central, I need to start making jokes. :D

minniesoporno
11-02-2017, 09:58 AM
A customer told me tonight that the site is running commercials on Comedy Central that says the site is free and doesnt mention a word about having to pay. If thats true that would explain why so many freeloaders are on there now and wont pay a dime. Im going to record stuff on there late at night and try to get the commercial.

That's how adult bring in traffic whether its a cam site or dating chatline. they bring in the guys saying a certain portion is free and they expect the service to get them to buy/upgrade to a premium.

I use to work in a call centre for a dating chatline. and the phone company, the complaints from guys who claim they didn't know , or won't admit to the charges is ridiculous.

JaneBurgess
11-02-2017, 12:07 PM
If the traffic is coming off of Comedy Central, I need to start making jokes. :D

He said if you watch at night after midnight EST that you will see the commercials and it says the site is free

Ginnyyy
11-02-2017, 12:20 PM
Just read on another board that the trainer for Europe is still hosting training sessions in order to be a successful model on their platform, some of them are held on Skype. I don't know if Vanessa for US is doing the same, but contact trainer Catalina on Skype: marianabogzoiu or e-mail: catalina [AT] streamate.com if you're an Euro model and have specific questions or want a training (if needed).

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-02-2017, 01:32 PM
A customer told me tonight that the site is running commercials on Comedy Central that says the site is free and doesnt mention a word about having to pay. If thats true that would explain why so many freeloaders are on there now and wont pay a dime. Im going to record stuff on there late at night and try to get the commercial.

It's true they've run commercials on several cable channels for years now. (Comedy Central & SyFy Channels, maybe one I more. I cant remember) I think there's a newer one than this that may have a little more details than this but they haven't updated the Youtube channel with it.I always see them late nights. They take viewers to this site http://streamatetv.com/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E0w_XwpIoA

They do traditionally advertise the site and in addition to that there are the affiliates who promote the site through cambuilder and still moneytree. I'm not sure if Pornhub is considered an adspot for SM but more like Pornhub being an affiliate that chose Streamate's live cam platform to promote. The link to SM from Pornhub has been there for years https://www.pornhub.com/live?track=6001

Those of you who're looking for ways to get featured and more exposure be sure to keep up with their blog. They have something new going on with the MrSkin Podcast, http://insidestreamate.com/mr-skin-podcast/

DeepThoughts
11-03-2017, 07:26 AM
I dont want to be always against the grain here but does anyone know for a fact that SM isnt buying the same traffic as they always did or is that just an assumption?

I mean have any of you actually asked someone high up in SM if they stopped buying the traffic they had or do you have some other sort of evidence that PROVES that they are not buying the same traffic?? Cause honestly I started on SM I think 5 or 6 years ago and my traffic is higher now then it ever was so Im just wondering if we know for certain that they stopped so I can pat myself on the back :D

AuroraJade
11-03-2017, 08:30 AM
Its hearsay. Like 99% of all the claims made here. :)

My income keeps growing, even though people here always make it seem like the end is near and making people worried for no reason at all, while bashing top earners/tip vibe users. Even I was accused of having a special arrangement with SM because I was ' their type' and ' traffic was sent to me' . While my best week was 1000$, which is a good income but nowhere near ' top earner' territory.

Don't worry so much people. Apart from some glitches the site is fine. Every streaming site has glitches. Ever watched Twitch? A great deal of those glitches are on the customers' end because they try to watch a 720p stream with a crappy device or shit connection.

I personally like SM just for the reason that I don't have to worry about things like buying traffic, marketing and SEO. I log in, cam and log off.

coco789
11-03-2017, 12:15 PM
I dont want to be always against the grain here but does anyone know for a fact that SM isnt buying the same traffic as they always did or is that just an assumption?

I mean have any of you actually asked someone high up in SM if they stopped buying the traffic they had or do you have some other sort of evidence that PROVES that they are not buying the same traffic?? Cause honestly I started on SM I think 5 or 6 years ago and my traffic is higher now then it ever was so Im just wondering if we know for certain that they stopped so I can pat myself on the back :D

I think ppl make that assumption because traffic has dramatically declined over the years. Here are the metrics: http://www.rank2traffic.com/streamate.com

(http://www.rank2traffic.com/streamate.com)

imelly21
11-03-2017, 12:47 PM
I agree with JaneBurgess here. Also the last link posted with the traffic over the last 8 years is an eye opener. wow

Brilynne
11-03-2017, 04:50 PM
I might have over looked this in my search, but it's kinda hard not knowing her name- isn't there some streamate employee that can be emailed directly with certain issues? The support form on the site is getting me nowhere. Completely ignored for a month and 4 attempts now. This information would be amazing.

sovereignv
11-03-2017, 04:52 PM
Yeah the link is horrifying ALTHOUGH if you do look closer it has been going up since January 2016 at least. They get more monthly visits now than they did last summer, which was my highest earning period ever.

I mean obviously overall it's not good but I was making decent money for a while even after the great decline and the fact that they're apparently having more traffic now than when I was making decent money makes me hopeful that decent money on SM may be in the cards for me once again in the future.

SoloDesire
11-03-2017, 04:56 PM
I might have over looked this in my search, but it's kinda hard not knowing her name- isn't there some streamate employee that can be emailed directly with certain issues? The support form on the site is getting me nowhere. Completely ignored for a month and 4 attempts now. This information would be amazing.

Try [email protected] or DM Vanessa on twitter @StreamateModels.

KatyBoleyn
11-03-2017, 05:38 PM
Yeah the link is horrifying ALTHOUGH if you do look closer it has been going up since January 2016 at least. They get more monthly visits now than they did last summer, which was my highest earning period ever.

I mean obviously overall it's not good but I was making decent money for a while even after the great decline and the fact that they're apparently having more traffic now than when I was making decent money makes me hopeful that decent money on SM may be in the cards for me once again in the future.

That link also doesn't reflect reality at all.

About 2014, after the lawsuit vs. Google, they started off-loading almost everything to white-labels. To get an accurate picture of SM traffic, you'd need to total up ALL their white labels in addition to their own site. This is again where we laugh people out of meetings trying to tell us they have more traffic than SM...if they try using Alexa numbers, we know they're amateurs. For example, add pornhub.com's live cams to the traffic number...

They've never directly invested any significant amount in "buying traffic." Traffic flows through affiliates, that's how things work. Affiliates push traffic via links, popunder/overs, white-labels, spam emails, dating sites, etc. Affiliates dump people at your doorstep and you either convert them or not. If you don't convert the traffic, nobody gets paid. They can't dump people at your door with their wallet out ready to spend on you...there's a little salesmanship necessary to close the deal. Streamate has a very generous program where you can get both the model piece of the pie AND the affiliate piece of the pie if you want to do both jobs.

Nobody is paying for bad traffic because that's not how it works. All paying traffic is "good" traffic. If its bad traffic, nobody gets paid or is paying for it. There is no magic "Traffic Button" that you can push or pay for that's any kind of effective and there's no big holding tank full of paying clients that they're just not letting you see because they're too cheap to turn the taps on. Its just simply not how things work.

SoloDesire
11-03-2017, 06:52 PM
That link also doesn't reflect reality at all.

About 2014, after the lawsuit vs. Google, they started off-loading almost everything to white-labels. To get an accurate picture of SM traffic, you'd need to total up ALL their white labels in addition to their own site. This is again where we laugh people out of meetings trying to tell us they have more traffic than SM...if they try using Alexa numbers, we know they're amateurs. For example, add pornhub.com's live cams to the traffic number...

They've never directly invested any significant amount in "buying traffic." Traffic flows through affiliates, that's how things work. Affiliates push traffic via links, popunder/overs, white-labels, spam emails, dating sites, etc. Affiliates dump people at your doorstep and you either convert them or not. If you don't convert the traffic, nobody gets paid. They can't dump people at your door with their wallet out ready to spend on you...there's a little salesmanship necessary to close the deal. Streamate has a very generous program where you can get both the model piece of the pie AND the affiliate piece of the pie if you want to do both jobs.

Nobody is paying for bad traffic because that's not how it works. All paying traffic is "good" traffic. If its bad traffic, nobody gets paid or is paying for it. There is no magic "Traffic Button" that you can push or pay for that's any kind of effective and there's no big holding tank full of paying clients that they're just not letting you see because they're too cheap to turn the taps on. Its just simply not how things work.

Thank you! I wish this didn't have to be explained over and over and over again. But thanks for taking the time to write it out again!

DeepThoughts
11-04-2017, 02:58 AM
You girls are so amazing! So many naysayers posting on SW (and I get it! Ive done my share of naysaying when im frustrated) but you dont have to scratch too far below the surface to discover that SW is still a wealth of great information and really switched on individuals.

I suspected the "traffic" issue was just a perception so myth busted I guess :D

coco789
11-04-2017, 04:03 AM
As a newbie, I've always felt like I had missed the SM "good ole days" because of some of the dialogue here regarding traffic (although business isn't necessarily bad for me on SM). Thanks for the breakdown, makes sense now.

Lovely_charlie
11-04-2017, 02:03 PM
Can anyone help me ? Need to install the sm broadcaster, and now it cant find my camera, others programs do, anyone knows what to do?

sweetgapeach
11-05-2017, 05:07 PM
Just off the top of anyone's head, can anyone remember how many hours need to be performed for the first placement jump? Like for example, when you have not streamed in FOREVER and the account is reverted back to the default four stars? 9,12?

KatyBoleyn
11-05-2017, 05:19 PM
Just off the top of anyone's head, can anyone remember how many hours need to be performed for the first placement jump? Like for example, when you have not streamed in FOREVER and the account is reverted back to the default four stars? 9,12?

15 hours in a single week from what we know for the first placement bump.

SM is no longer holding anyone's placement over the long term from what we know. If you are with us, contact us before any long vacations and we'll see if it helps to suspend your account during your hiatus. Just letting it time out over 3 months is a bad thing.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-05-2017, 06:04 PM
If the traffic is coming off of Comedy Central, I need to start making jokes. :D

Girl you got the right attitude!