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TheBrownFox
01-29-2018, 12:46 AM
^You should probably edit your post to remove the name of that site, so that the folks lurking this forum don't head over there to check out your free video.

princess_casual
01-29-2018, 02:24 PM
^You should probably edit your post to remove the name of that site, so that the folks lurking this forum don't head over there to check out your free video.

Good call, thanks. Looks like mods already did that for me.

BadBitch
01-29-2018, 03:27 PM
Since we have to sit hours on end looking at ourselfs on cam selfdoubt is the biggest battle to overcome
When you overcome this; you are winning the game, because nothing is sexier than a woman who knows her worth and glow from the inside with convidence.

The only way to get your income to rise is to be on cam regularly, push yourself through the hard moments, trying to build yourself up instead of down while being online and to repeat it as much days in the week as possible.
Logging of after 2 hours of nothing is understandable, esp if you are feeling really bad because of it, but try to get yourself back in a positive vibe as soon as possible and remember: it is just a job! It does not define you as a person, it does not define all of your qualities or the future you can be having with camming.. All it shows you is that the right client was not around at that particular time, or they were but have to find private time before they take you on

I have had many occasions where people buying a show are telling me the wanted to do this for months and glad they are now doing so... So a lot of people wait for the right oppurtunity or want to see some more of you before they take you on. Keypoint; being online more often will help you attract your customers

Raise your rates, you are worth way more than you are asking right now. There have been recorded loop videos on streamate selling themselves for 4.99 per minute. In my opinion it is worth it waiting for quality customers instead of charging lower and having to do more shows. They will appreciate your shows more when you raise your price. you will attract better customers in the end... Might a higher price not work out; you can always go back to the lower price. Play around a bit with it.

Play up a role while being online, and get yourself so into your role that you forget about your real feelings. Play up the part of the most sexy seductress they will ever meet.
Try to change the way you talk about yourself to yourself. Dont tolerate it anymore form yoruself to tlak negative about yourself and if you do change it into positive. There is enough hurt sadness and bullying around us anyways, no need for you to bring yourself even more down. Instead try to boost your selfesteem so you will be more radient and confident on cam

We all have moments with a lot of struggleand selfdoubt. It is the biggest obstacle to overcome while being a cammer. If you work on that your working on overcoming the hardest part

Good luck and hugs

OMG! I am SO glad that you wrote this! My husband is saying this to me ALL the time! "it is just a job! It does not define you as a person"! Thank you! I have to keep reminding myself of that!

JessRyan
01-29-2018, 04:35 PM
[QUOTE=anonamiss;3042816]you could sort of block them from chat via messages before - you just had to take the extra step and go to your blacklist to check off both chat and mail.

but i agree, the fact that we can't block people if they haven't spent money on us or messaged us (unless you catch them in free chat) is stupid. this is why they shouldn't be allowed to change their usernames... sigh.


newbies...sigh

anonamiss
01-30-2018, 02:27 PM
got my 1099 from SM yesterday. just a heads up in case anyone was curious. only waiting on C4S now.

ep2002
01-30-2018, 04:55 PM
how did you get your 30 % bonus last week? if its supposed to be extra to what you made this week? Im just confused


you could sort of block them from chat via messages before - you just had to take the extra step and go to your blacklist to check off both chat and mail.

but i agree, the fact that we can't block people if they haven't spent money on us or messaged us (unless you catch them in free chat) is stupid. this is why they shouldn't be allowed to change their usernames... sigh.

And once again they are NOT banning the guys I ask them to ban.

They LIE & say they've done it, & then they end up back in my room.

JFC.

ep2002
01-30-2018, 04:57 PM
Ok, this is what I get for NEVER searching for myself on the site LOL

How do we get ourselves into the different categories they offer to the guys?

And how do you search for ONLY girls who are online b/c I am not seeing that option.

And lastly, how can I change my ethnic background? I'm not seeing that in my edit profile area.

Thanks a ton :)

Tigrillo
02-01-2018, 12:50 PM
Ok, this is what I get for NEVER searching for myself on the site LOL

How do we get ourselves into the different categories they offer to the guys?

And how do you search for ONLY girls who are online b/c I am not seeing that option.

And lastly, how can I change my ethnic background? I'm not seeing that in my edit profile area.

Thanks a ton :)

1. your choices in your profile put you in the different categories. Some you can change, like feet/shaved/smoking etc, others you can't like age related categories, breast size according to the measures you provided and ethnicity too. I appear as Hispanic although by genetics and looks I'm most likely more caucasian (and as much a mongrel as anyone else in mexico practically), but, still, I've learned not to argue about these things. I had an ongoing thing arguing with them that Mexico is, in fact, a part of North America and I should please appear on that category...

2. when you search girls online will always be the one showing on top.

3. answered in 1

ep2002
02-06-2018, 10:08 AM
1. your choices in your profile put you in the different categories. Some you can change, like feet/shaved/smoking etc, others you can't like age related categories, breast size according to the measures you provided and ethnicity too. I appear as Hispanic although by genetics and looks I'm most likely more caucasian (and as much a mongrel as anyone else in mexico practically), but, still, I've learned not to argue about these things. I had an ongoing thing arguing with them that Mexico is, in fact, a part of North America and I should please appear on that category...

2. when you search girls online will always be the one showing on top.

3. answered in 1

Thank you. I was searching without having a membership & the offline girls appear all over the place.

I e-mailed them & they changed a few things for me & they should have put me as Caucasian. I'm the same like you (not Mexican though) having been raised in NA since 1.5 years old.

ep2002
02-06-2018, 10:13 AM
Ok, so I just got an Excl. pvt from a guy who may have used a stolen credit card b/c not only is he in Kenya (first time I've ever had anyone from Kenya), but he started tipping very high tips while in pvt. which I normally never get.

I also heard someone else in the background & he wasn't nude at all nor showed any part of his body even though he turned the cam on right away & I asked him to. Maybe he was recording. I wasn't even sure he could see or hear me b/c the connection was terrible.

He was frozen most of the time. He started demanding pussy & then again while I was stalling, I finally showed it several times, but was nervous due to his behavior.

Then of course he lies & says he spent over $100 & I'm taking him around in circles. Maybe he did, but of course I don't get $100. I got $37 for 11 mins. & his 2 tips.

I shut down my connection. I don't even know how to leave a pvt without leaving SM. Can we do that?

Does SM pay even if it's a stolen card or they do a chargeback?

I don't want to tell them if the guy was ok & then they take the money from me.

Thanks

ElenaEclair
02-06-2018, 11:34 AM
I work in the US and have gotten my 1099. I assume I need to pay state taxes, but do I pay based on my state or the state Streamate is based out of?

kamiliam
02-06-2018, 11:46 AM
I work in the US and have gotten my 1099. I assume I need to pay state taxes, but do I pay based on my state or the state Streamate is based out of?

Your state taxes. Washington doesn't have state taxes anyway.

macgirlox
02-06-2018, 08:07 PM
Have any of you guys actually noticed an increase in your earnings since being consistent / vs. when you weren't? Or did you find that your hourly stayed the same either way? I’m trying to see if it really even does make a difference in $$ being consistent vs. not.

anonamiss
02-06-2018, 09:16 PM
Ok, so I just got an Excl. pvt from a guy who may have used a stolen credit card b/c not only is he in Kenya (first time I've ever had anyone from Kenya), but he started tipping very high tips while in pvt. which I normally never get.

I also heard someone else in the background & he wasn't nude at all nor showed any part of his body even though he turned the cam on right away & I asked him to. Maybe he was recording. I wasn't even sure he could see or hear me b/c the connection was terrible.

He was frozen most of the time. He started demanding pussy & then again while I was stalling, I finally showed it several times, but was nervous due to his behavior.

Then of course he lies & says he spent over $100 & I'm taking him around in circles. Maybe he did, but of course I don't get $100. I got $37 for 11 mins. & his 2 tips.

I shut down my connection. I don't even know how to leave a pvt without leaving SM. Can we do that?

Does SM pay even if it's a stolen card or they do a chargeback?

I don't want to tell them if the guy was ok & then they take the money from me.

Thanks

as far as i know, it's in SM's contract that chargebacks are covered no matter what. so even if a refund or chargeback happens on the customer end, you still get to keep your money. it's not your fault if a customer is using a stolen/fraudulent credit card, so i wouldn't worry about that. (unless you're actively complicit in it and they find out. i'm sure that's grounds for getting banned or at least suspended.)

i had a guy once who tipped like $500 in $50 increments in free chat over the course of the night. i had never seen him before, and he had this suspicious way of bragging about his money. i always wondered if he had a stolen card. he never came back despite promising that he would, but i still kept all the earnings from his tips. i've also had regulars who told me they had our show refunded because of really bad tech issues/site glitches, but i still got to keep the money.

you can manually stop a private show by clicking the "stop show" button, but that will ultimately disconnect your entire stream, and you'll have to log back on. i don't think you can stop a private or exclusive show without doing that, unless you block or kick out the person in your private show. then you'll just be taken to your "break/pause" screen.

also, $37 in your pocket does mean he spent a little over $100 himself, assuming you're getting a 30-35% cut. so technically he wasn't lying.

anonamiss
02-06-2018, 09:41 PM
Have any of you guys actually noticed an increase in your earnings since being consistent / vs. when you weren't? Or did you find that your hourly stayed the same either way? I’m trying to see if it really even does make a difference in $$ being consistent vs. not.

i've only really started putting in "consistent" hours at the start of this year, and my hourly average is about the same if not a tiny bit lower than when i would work sporadically.

however, i make more money now because i'm working more hours. that to me is the whole point (and benefit) of being consistent. i find that when you work camming with a disciplined/consistent schedule, you can rely on your averages. you'll have good and bad days, but if you put in a full 20 hours per week or whatever your goal is, you can count on making about the same amount if not more each week. it always seems to balance out, give or take a little.

when i worked random hours, i might have a great night and make $100+/hour and log off after 3 hours. but then i'd justify taking the next day or two off. whereas now, even if i'm making an above-average hourly rate, i still work my scheduled hours for the night, and then again the next day, and so on. by staying consistent with my hours, i ultimately end up with a much fatter paycheck.

Rubyfloozy
02-08-2018, 02:41 PM
Hi ladies :-)
I'm new to this thread. I've dipped in and out of SM sporadically over the last couple of years.
I've just set up a new profile (the last one having been deactivated due to inactivity!)
I plan on starting in about 10 days when I'll be able to make the most of the new girl status.

I'm just wondering if any of you might have some any advice you can offer?
I've ordered the lovense Lush, Hush, Nora and Osci (I got a bit carried away haha)
I'll also be splitting with AW, BScams and indie Skype shows.

Any advice gratefully welcomed!!

Many thanks in advance!! Xxxx

imelly21
02-08-2018, 02:47 PM
I dont know what advice to give you. Streamate is overpopulated lately, lots of free teasing or teasing for $1 in free chat. Lots of glitches. Sorry if it sounds depressing. So the best advice would be : lots of patience! Lots and lots.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-08-2018, 07:46 PM
i've only really started putting in "consistent" hours at the start of this year, and my hourly average is about the same if not a tiny bit lower than when i would work sporadically.

however, i make more money now because i'm working more hours. that to me is the whole point (and benefit) of being consistent. i find that when you work camming with a disciplined/consistent schedule, you can rely on your averages. you'll have good and bad days, but if you put in a full 20 hours per week or whatever your goal is, you can count on making about the same amount if not more each week. it always seems to balance out, give or take a little.

when i worked random hours, i might have a great night and make $100+/hour and log off after 3 hours. but then i'd justify taking the next day or two off. whereas now, even if i'm making an above-average hourly rate, i still work my scheduled hours for the night, and then again the next day, and so on. by staying consistent with my hours, i ultimately end up with a much fatter paycheck.


Hi ladies :-)
I'm new to this thread. I've dipped in and out of SM sporadically over the last couple of years.
I've just set up a new profile (the last one having been deactivated due to inactivity!)
I plan on starting in about 10 days when I'll be able to make the most of the new girl status.

I'm just wondering if any of you might have some any advice you can offer?
I've ordered the lovense Lush, Hush, Nora and Osci (I got a bit carried away haha)
I'll also be splitting with AW, BScams and indie Skype shows.

Any advice gratefully welcomed!!

Many thanks in advance!! Xxxx

Hi Ruby! Welcome back to camming and Stripperweb!! Streamate is still a wonderful site for many performers but there are some ups and downs like on any site. I think the key to getting the ball rolling is to focus on consistency like what Anonmiss posted above. I'd also like to add that having a great attitude can take you far as well. Making sure you have the proper tech and high speed internet will also help. But even people who don't have all the bells and whistles still manage to do well on Streamate. Just try to have fun with it. When you're ready to get started you can send me a message and I can take a look at your stream to give you a few pointers if you like. It'll be like I'm your hype girl.

Serena-Shields
02-08-2018, 07:56 PM
Have any of you guys actually noticed an increase in your earnings since being consistent / vs. when you weren't? Or did you find that your hourly stayed the same either way? I’m trying to see if it really even does make a difference in $$ being consistent vs. not.

I notice a significant uptick in traffic and earnings if I'm consistent in my hours online. Last year I was online at the same time every day, dedicated the exact same amount of time to each site each day, and my daily goals were always met/ often over goal. Then I started taking days off, sleeping too late, logging off early after I make goal and I started making less over those months, and when I WAS online I was usually cranky because I was going through a rough patch with my personal life around then, and that crankiness fed into my shows and deterred clients from spending money on me.

Being consistent means your clients will know when you're online and depend on you, thus earning their loyalty. I notice that if I'm consistent for a week, the week will only get better or in the least, earnings will be the same for each day. If I slip up for a few days I will pay for it the next week.

Marina Starr
02-08-2018, 08:23 PM
This goes for everything in life... Streamate included! #consistenthoe #streamatehoe

http://i67.tinypic.com/21v7ut.jpg

Rubyfloozy
02-08-2018, 11:18 PM
Hi Ruby! Welcome back to camming and Stripperweb!! Streamate is still a wonderful site for many performers but there are some ups and downs like on any site. I think the key to getting the ball rolling is to focus on consistency like what Anonmiss posted above. I'd also like to add that having a great attitude can take you far as well. Making sure you have the proper tech and high speed internet will also help. But even people who don't have all the bells and whistles still manage to do well on Streamate. Just try to have fun with it. When you're ready to get started you can send me a message and I can take a look at your stream to give you a few pointers if you like. It'll be like I'm your hype girl.

Hey thank you! That would be fab!!

I've got the high speed internet, I'm pretty sure my laptop should be able to handle splitting.. it has icore7 processor. If not I have a second laptop so I'll use them both.
I've never used the encoder before, but it seems fairly straight forward (she says now...)
I just need to figure out my hustle! I'm so used to pay per view with no free Chat, I've gotten quite comfy with it!

xStitchesx
02-09-2018, 01:12 AM
This goes for everything in life... Streamate included! #consistenthoe #streamatehoe

http://i67.tinypic.com/21v7ut.jpg

This was the meme I needed to see today ��

imelly21
02-09-2018, 11:29 AM
When did this happen but officially SM has more models online than MFC. Time to switch back I guess!

DancesWithSloths
02-10-2018, 10:16 AM
I'm so used to pay per view with no free Chat, I've gotten quite comfy with it!

I find that Streamate freechat is *a lot* less annoying and more pleasant than AW freechat, because on AW guys know they're about to get kicked out in 5 mins, so they try to get as much free attention and wank fodder as possible. SM freeloaders are more likely to be silent, so you get a lot less "mmmm", "wow", ":) :) :)" and other empty verbal junk draining your will to live.

Basically, as long as you're aware of common scams, have a rough idea how long you're willing to chat to somebody before you ask for a show and withdraw free attention, and don't expect to go straight to doing 4 hrs in free from a standing start, you'll be *fine*.

ep2002
02-12-2018, 12:50 AM
i've only really started putting in "consistent" hours at the start of this year, and my hourly average is about the same if not a tiny bit lower than when i would work sporadically.

however, i make more money now because i'm working more hours. that to me is the whole point (and benefit) of being consistent. i find that when you work camming with a disciplined/consistent schedule, you can rely on your averages. you'll have good and bad days, but if you put in a full 20 hours per week or whatever your goal is, you can count on making about the same amount if not more each week. it always seems to balance out, give or take a little.

when i worked random hours, i might have a great night and make $100+/hour and log off after 3 hours. but then i'd justify taking the next day or two off. whereas now, even if i'm making an above-average hourly rate, i still work my scheduled hours for the night, and then again the next day, and so on. by staying consistent with my hours, i ultimately end up with a much fatter paycheck.

Yeh I figured he spent that much & I never got a chance to tell him that WE DO NOT GET THE FULL 100%.

I wonder how many guys actually think we do.

Interesting question.

Thanks for allaying my fears. He still seemed very suspicious to me being that he wasn't nude or even topless & I heard another guy there. They could be taping & selling the session.

Bananabunny
02-12-2018, 01:12 PM
I dont know what advice to give you. Streamate is overpopulated lately, lots of free teasing or teasing for $1 in free chat. Lots of glitches. Sorry if it sounds depressing. So the best advice would be : lots of patience! Lots and lots.

Sadly my bills don't have as much patience as I do.

Ginnyyy
02-14-2018, 01:57 PM
I just found out that Streamate runs this blog. Luckily it's written in English.
http://www.streamatemodels.ro/blog/

According to Streamate, in short words, in order to be a great cam model, you need to follow the big 3steps:
��Record yourself every time so you can watch later in order to improve your performances
��Ask other models for feedback about your shows
�� Ask your members for feedback about your shows and reward them for their input and suggestions.

anonamiss
02-14-2018, 02:09 PM
I just found out that Streamate runs this blog. Luckily it's written in English.
http://www.streamatemodels.ro/blog/

According to Streamate, in short words, in order to be a great cam model, you need to follow the big 3steps:
��Record yourself every time so you can watch later in order to improve your performances
��Ask other models for feedback about your shows
�� Ask your members for feedback about your shows and reward them for their input and suggestions.

there's also this one. the video interviews with models are pretty interesting. http://streamaterecruiting.com/blog/

imelly21
02-14-2018, 02:44 PM
Sadly my bills don't have as much patience as I do.

Mine dont either! :(

AuroraJade
02-16-2018, 10:11 AM
How strict is SM support with reports from customers?

I had my cam cut out during a Gold show count down and the customer said to me ' enjoy your report' .

Am I going to get suspended for this? I also assume they are more strict when it comes to low earning models like me. I probably cost them more then I make them.

I really hope I am not going to lose the best job I have ever had, I I lose streamate I am afraid the only option I have left is prostitution.

I can live with a day, maybe even a week suspension. I just hope I do not get suspended forever. That would be the start of a very very dark period in my life... I have never been warned or suspended so I dont know squat about that, can somebody reassure me because I am stressed out as fuck

SoloDesire
02-16-2018, 10:29 AM
How strict is SM support with reports from customers?

I had my cam cut out during a Gold show count down and the customer said to me ' enjoy your report' .

Am I going to get suspended for this? I also assume they are more strict when it comes to low earning models like me. I probably cost them more then I make them.

I really hope I am not going to lose the best job I have ever had, I I lose streamate I am afraid the only option I have left is prostitution.

I can live with a day, maybe even a week suspension. I just hope I do not get suspended forever. That would be the start of a very very dark period in my life... I have never been warned or suspended so I dont know squat about that, can somebody reassure me because I am stressed out as fuck

What would they suspend you for? Did you break any rules? They aren't going to blindly suspend you just because someone reports you. More than likely they will look over the recording of your stream and see if you did anything that broke the rules...but most likely, they won't even look into the report at all. If the only thing that happened was your cam glitching out why would they suspend you?

ep2002
02-17-2018, 01:08 AM
So occasionally this part of SM says NA processing.

Round Trip Time (ms)

Does anyone know what that means? I use OBS.

Thanks

Erika_Xstacy
02-17-2018, 01:27 AM
So occasionally this part of SM says NA processing.

Round Trip Time (ms)

Does anyone know what that means? I use OBS.

Thanks

I use SMB
it looks empty right?
its calculating the RTT

IvyRose
02-17-2018, 06:16 AM
How strict is SM support with reports from customers?

I had my cam cut out during a Gold show count down and the customer said to me ' enjoy your report' .

Am I going to get suspended for this? I also assume they are more strict when it comes to low earning models like me. I probably cost them more then I make them.

I really hope I am not going to lose the best job I have ever had, I I lose streamate I am afraid the only option I have left is prostitution.

I can live with a day, maybe even a week suspension. I just hope I do not get suspended forever. That would be the start of a very very dark period in my life... I have never been warned or suspended so I dont know squat about that, can somebody reassure me because I am stressed out as fuck

No you wont be suspended
dont worry


first of all: it was a countdown, the actual show did not even start yet
what happens when that happens is that the money gets tranferred back to the custies that have bought into the goldshow
Maybe you can let them know next time that their money will be refunded if the show does not start for whatever reason, so they can chill out about their precious 10 bucks or whatever amount of $ ;) (arent goldshowmembers the fucking worst and most impatient dudes ever existing on earth?!)

Also when the goldshow cuts out in the middle of streaming: they still get their money back, so its a win win for the custies I guess and a bummer for the model. The custies will always be on the winning hands when it comes down to goldshow failing to perform

so its nothing to worry about and sm will def not block you. also the members should just chill out and relax, bec they will keep that money if the goldshow doesnt deliver

if you tell them upfront sbout those things they are also more likely to buy, bec they know they will either get a show or get a refund =)

AuroraJade
02-17-2018, 02:47 PM
Yeah I heard nothing yet so I think it is okay :) I was freaking out big time tho!

Gold show members are def a special kind of people.....

Erika_Xstacy
02-17-2018, 02:59 PM
No you wont be suspended
dont worry


first of all: it was a countdown, the actual show did not even start yet
what happens when that happens is that the money gets tranferred back to the custies that have bought into the goldshow
Maybe you can let them know next time that their money will be refunded if the show does not start for whatever reason, so they can chill out about their precious 10 bucks or whatever amount of $ ;) (arent goldshowmembers the fucking worst and most impatient dudes ever existing on earth?!)

Also when the goldshow cuts out in the middle of streaming: they still get their money back, so its a win win for the custies I guess and a bummer for the model. The custies will always be on the winning hands when it comes down to goldshow failing to perform

so its nothing to worry about and sm will def not block you. also the members should just chill out and relax, bec they will keep that money if the goldshow doesnt deliver

if you tell them upfront sbout those things they are also more likely to buy, bec they know they will either get a show or get a refund =)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyfng2QOMdaUmu9LDMBChFg
good example of a complaining asshat and how sm can handle it.

In my heart I know this was a models bf/husband upset bc at one time goldshows did nothing but crash or not go through. He was pretending to be a customer and made himself out to be more of the ass than sm support.

ep2002
02-20-2018, 08:21 AM
I use SMB
it looks empty right?
its calculating the RTT

Ok, but I'm talking a full 24 hours or more later.

So does this mean there's a problem on my end or on SM's end?

Thanks

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 11:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyfng2QOMdaUmu9LDMBChFg
good example of a complaining asshat and how sm can handle it.

In my heart I know this was a models bf/husband upset bc at one time goldshows did nothing but crash or not go through. He was pretending to be a customer and made himself out to be more of the ass than sm support.

OMG the comment drama is strong on these ones!! :D

Erika_Xstacy
02-20-2018, 12:18 PM
Ok, but I'm talking a full 24 hours or more later.

So does this mean there's a problem on my end or on SM's end?

Thanks

The problem with this issue is that streamate doesn't support OBS. They will tell you to use smb.
(im not telling you not to use OBS, I love obs but sm told me ^^^^ the same thing)

That is not normal. not 24 hours. mine will register on smb within 15 minutes. I ASSUME it will do the same with other programs.

*Lynn*
02-20-2018, 02:32 PM
Hi all!
Those of you who also do indie:
I was curious if it is common to charge less for your skype shows than the rates in sm.

in other words lets say a performer is charging $3.99 for private and $9.99 for EXCL on SM but as an indie charges 30 min skype show for $90 which is $3/min, where is the logic in that? Even accounting for the difference in the cut.


30 mins in excl w/ 35% performers cut = $105
30 min skype w/85% performers cut = $76.50

My skype shows are old cust I kept in touch with from the CC and ifriends days (yes I'm old) and from twitter. No I do not offer skype shows to anyone on SM.

The reason I'm curious about this is because I had someone contact me on twitter and when I told him my rates he told me that was "way more than camgirls are charging." I told him if it isn't within his DESIRED budget I understand and sometimes I have specials, but not all camgirls charge less, some charge more and that's my rate. Of course he got defensive and told me of course I would go and attack him saying he can't afford which I never did, I said "desired". He then proceeded to tell me he was glad he didn't spend a dime on me and that he's seen me sitting in SM for a long time and I should just have taken what he offered because I obviously need it.
I offer skype shows between $4.50-$6.00/ a min depending on how long. of a show they want. It just had me thinking if it is true what he claimed that performers are charging $2.50 a min for skype shows and he frequents SM, where rates can be triple that... I don't know... just doesn't make sense.
I have mostly seen girls from token sites that offer skype shows and they are charging 400+ for skype shows.

(Wrong sm thread, sorry! someone please move it to the right place, lol thank you!)

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 03:23 PM
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?195410-Indy-Ladies-Why-are-Indy-Rates-So-Low&highlight=indy

Basically same math. Im same as you. I have a handfull of clients, not from SM, that I will do Skype shows with. I charge them like it was a private show on SM but I charge in Euros so I dont lose anything on the conversion when I have to convert it. Read the thread though. I think its exactly on point with where you are right now.

Also Im pretty sure Loveshooks had a thread on this but I couldnt find it. I just remember talking to her about it years ago.

kortneykay
02-20-2018, 03:35 PM
Hi all!
Those of you who also do indie:
I was curious if it is common to charge less for your skype shows than the rates in sm.

in other words lets say a performer is charging $3.99 for private and $9.99 for EXCL on SM but as an indie charges 30 min skype show for $90 which is $3/min, where is the logic in that? Even accounting for the difference in the cut.


30 mins in excl w/ 35% performers cut = $105
30 min skype w/85% performers cut = $76.50

My skype shows are old cust I kept in touch with from the CC and ifriends days (yes I'm old) and from twitter. No I do not offer skype shows to anyone on SM.

The reason I'm curious about this is because I had someone contact me on twitter and when I told him my rates he told me that was "way more than camgirls are charging." I told him if it isn't within his DESIRED budget I understand and sometimes I have specials, but not all camgirls charge less, some charge more and that's my rate. Of course he got defensive and told me of course I would go and attack him saying he can't afford which I never did, I said "desired". He then proceeded to tell me he was glad he didn't spend a dime on me and that he's seen me sitting in SM for a long time and I should just have taken what he offered because I obviously need it.
I offer skype shows between $4.50-$6.00/ a min depending on how long. of a show they want. It just had me thinking if it is true what he claimed that performers are charging $2.50 a min for skype shows and he frequents SM, where rates can be triple that... I don't know... just doesn't make sense.
I have mostly seen girls from token sites that offer skype shows and they are charging 400+ for skype shows.

(Wrong sm thread, sorry! someone please move it to the right place, lol thank you!)

He was upset because you didn't settle for his offer and spoke out of his ass. Bottom line, he couldn't afford you and is taking it personally. This hurts their ego because they're used to Women pandering to them, collectively. When they meet a female who doesn't care and can walk away from money- their egos can't handle it.

Many, many guys get butt hurt simply because they cannot afford us. They will pit other models against you, and will do anything to try and get you to lower your rates- tell them to go fuck themselves for free, then. There are thousands of men who CAN afford you.

Like you, I charge $6+ for indy, and $8.99-9.99 on SM. Tell him since he likes stalking your feed so much, he can pay the higher rates on SM, then. How long you stay in freechat without pvts (that he can see) is none of his business. Don't let these men get to you. They will literally throw a virtual tantrum because they want you, but cannot have you.

Typical tantrums we hear all the time:

"You're too expensive!" = I can't afford you.
"You're the most expensive girl on this site. Why?!" = I can't afford you.
"If you lowered your rates, I'd take you for a longer show." = I can't afford you.
"Wow, your rates are too high." = I can't afford you.

When they try you, try these.

"The clearance pussy is down the hall to your right. BYE!"
"There are X amount of girls on charging $2.99, go bother them, then."
"Go wine to someone who gives a fuck."
"I charge according to my personal bills, as do all the girls on the site."
"Get a better paying job."
"Steak or chicken fingers, your choice."
"My rates and comments speak for themselves."
"Can't have everything you want."
"I'm only here for the men who can afford me. Can't have everything you want."
"The site keeps over 60%, take it up with them."
"Real men don't complain, they go after what they want."
"Considering the comments and 5 star rating I have, you seem to be the only one who can't afford me. Ask for a raise."
"What does your low income have anything to do with me?"
"Awww, go ask your Mommy for a bigger allowance, little boy."

I really wish little boys would stop verbally harassing us as if we give a damn. I have big bills. If you can't afford the expensive cars on the lot, settle for a cheaper one.

So to answer your question: Depending on the client, I'll take off $3-4 from the SM rate. If they don't like that, I tell them to feel free to pay my full rate or fuck off. We Women don't owe them SHIT. If they were Women, they'd charge out the ass, too!

*Lynn*
02-20-2018, 03:45 PM
He was upset because you didn't settle for his offer and spoke out of his ass. Bottom line, he couldn't afford you and is taking it personally. This hurts their ego because they're used to Women pandering to them, collectively. When they meet a female who doesn't care and can walk away from money- their egos can't handle it.

Many, many guys get butt hurt simply because they cannot afford us. They will pit other models against you, and will do anything to try and get you to lower your rates- tell them to go fuck themselves for free, then. There are thousands of men who CAN afford you.

Like you, I charge $6+ for indy, and $8.99-9.99 on SM. Tell him since he likes stalking your feed so much, he can pay the higher rates on SM, then. Don't let these men get to you. They will literally throw a virtual tantrum because they want you, but cannot afford you.

Typical tantrums we hear all the time:

"You're too expensive!" = I can't afford you.
"You're the most expensive girl on this site. Why?!" = I can't afford you.
"If you lowered your rates, I'd take you for a longer show." = I can't afford you.
"Wow, your rates are too high." = I can't afford you.

When they try you, try these.

"The clearance pussy is down the hall to your right. BYE!"
"There are X amount of girls on charging $2.99, go bother them, then."
"I charge according to my personal bills, as do all the girls on the site."
"Get a better paying job."
"Steak or chicken fingers, your choice."
"My rates and comments speak for themselves."
"Can't have everything you want."
"I'm only here for the men who can afford me. Can't have everything you want."
"The site keeps over 60%, take it up with them."
"Real men don't complain, they go after what they want."
"Considering the comments and 5 star rating I have, you seem to be the only one who can't afford me. Ask for a raise."
"What does your low income have anything to do with me?"


I really wish little boys would stop verbally harassing us as if we give a damn. If you can't afford the expensive cars on the lot, settle for a cheaper one.


Thanks :-) Yes I didn't let him get to me, I just got a little upset cuz he said stuff then blocked me lol
I don't lower my prices, I think with the once a month 50% discount I do and the bulk rates they get enough opportunities if they want to pay less.
Its always my rules, my say.

*Lynn*
02-20-2018, 03:46 PM
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?195410-Indy-Ladies-Why-are-Indy-Rates-So-Low&highlight=indy

Basically same math. Im same as you. I have a handfull of clients, not from SM, that I will do Skype shows with. I charge them like it was a private show on SM but I charge in Euros so I dont lose anything on the conversion when I have to convert it. Read the thread though. I think its exactly on point with where you are right now.

Also Im pretty sure Loveshooks had a thread on this but I couldnt find it. I just remember talking to her about it years ago.

Oh thank you! I was looking and couldn't find. I'm having a clumsy day though lol

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 03:46 PM
^^ Clearance pussy. hahahahahahahaha I am so stealing that.

kortneykay
02-20-2018, 03:54 PM
^^ Clearance pussy. hahahahahahahaha I am so stealing that.

I don't mean to be offensive in saying that, but with hundreds of Women charging $0.99-3.99, what are they complaining for? Also, some of us have been doing this for 5-10 yrs, so the nut is guaranteed and experience doesn't come cheap. A clean appearance, a nice room, a good looking, well put-together model, and experience should be considered.

They just assume because they're anonymous and they have access to beautiful Women through a website that she MUST give them her body for whatever they can afford. Doesn't work that way. We're selfish over here, just like you males.

DeepThoughts
02-20-2018, 04:22 PM
^^ I never took as a insult to other models. If a guy is talking to you its cause he is interested in you so if he has the cash he will pay it but sometimes you have to nudge their ego a bit.

macgirlox
02-20-2018, 05:09 PM
sorry if this has already been covered, but did SM algorithm change recently?? I went to the home page, and there were girls I had never seen before mixed with guys on the top rows !! I re-clicked and same thing but different guys /girls mix matched, I was signed into member account BTW, I waited another minute and went to homepage again signed in this time it was only girls, some I have seen in top rows but most girls never seen before. A few top row girls were actually rows and rows down. I also went to all the offline models, you know how you can usually see the top" placement girls in order? Well this time when I look offline none of them are there anymore.. it just starts with some random girls?? All of the ones I usually see are gone and I checked for pages and pages.. gone. Has streamates placement algorithm changed?

KatyBoleyn
02-20-2018, 05:33 PM
sorry if this has already been covered, but did SM algorithm change recently?? I went to the home page, and there were girls I had never seen before mixed with guys on the top rows !! I re-clicked and same thing but different guys /girls mix matched, I was signed into member account BTW, I waited another minute and went to homepage again signed in this time it was only girls, some I have seen in top rows but most girls never seen before. A few top row girls were actually rows and rows down. I also went to all the offline models, you know how you can usually see the top" placement girls in order? Well this time when I look offline none of them are there anymore.. it just starts with some random girls?? All of the ones I usually see are gone and I checked for pages and pages.. gone. Has streamates placement algorithm changed?

For a few hours today, Streamate was having some server issues. It was a thing. It could be related to that.

People this week have also been noting the differences in placement. We'll have to re-open the studies we did on placement before.

What I know is that this is, bar none, the best 2 weeks we've had in 3 years. Brand new models are banking right out of the gate, and long time models in our studio are much happier (doing more hours) because of the earnings jump. There's a few factors that could cause this like general economy, other websites getting sanctioned by Google, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if a re-shuffle in the way Streamate displays/orders models is also contributing.

anonamiss
02-20-2018, 05:49 PM
"The clearance pussy is down the hall to your right. BYE!"
"There are X amount of girls on charging $2.99, go bother them, then."
"Go wine to someone who gives a fuck."
"I charge according to my personal bills, as do all the girls on the site."
"Get a better paying job."
"Steak or chicken fingers, your choice."
"My rates and comments speak for themselves."
"Can't have everything you want."
"I'm only here for the men who can afford me. Can't have everything you want."
"The site keeps over 60%, take it up with them."
"Real men don't complain, they go after what they want."
"Considering the comments and 5 star rating I have, you seem to be the only one who can't afford me. Ask for a raise."
"What does your low income have anything to do with me?"
"Awww, go ask your Mommy for a bigger allowance, little boy."

omg i want to design these quotes in fancy lettering and make motivational posters/canvas art with them. they're all good but some of these are brilliant. :)