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caramelcraze
05-19-2018, 01:30 AM
The point I was making wasn't that they take an obscene amount, it was that by uploading your videos, you are giving them full permission to use your content royalty free as the company sees fit.

"All content uploaded to the systems by Performer/Studio shall be works made for hire under the United States Copyright Act, as amended, to the extent eligible; otherwise, Performer/Studio hereby assigns all rights, title and interests in such content to Streamate. Streamate shall then own all such content, and Streamate will have the sole discretion to use any such content in any way it so chooses, including but not limited to in any medium and in any promotion, distribution, advertising, sales and marketing efforts, both during and after the term of this Agreement."

So even with region blocking, that awesome video you made & posted on sm to sell may end up on a late night tv ad without crediting you in any capacity. They also could post the full video for free on one of the tube sites for promo. And no, they do not have to okay it with you first.

euro_princess
05-19-2018, 02:59 AM
I talked once with Liz about geo blocking. If you use it, they remove you from all the affiliates and stop any type of external promotion. So even if you give them permission to use your vids, it's against the whole point of geo blocking. At least, that's my logic, but I might be wrong. Another thing that I remember is being a Featured Performer, if you are, they can use any type of content to drive traffic into your room. But I don't know that works with geo blocking, you should definitely check with Liz.

Erika_Xstacy
05-19-2018, 01:08 PM
I talked once with Liz about geo blocking. If you use it, they remove you from all the affiliates and stop any type of external promotion. So even if you give them permission to use your vids, it's against the whole point of geo blocking. At least, that's my logic, but I might be wrong. Another thing that I remember is being a Featured Performer, if you are, they can use any type of content to drive traffic into your room. But I don't know that works with geo blocking, you should definitely check with Liz.

You are correct. Geo models are only seen on cammodels.com and maybe streamate.com but the member has to be logged in to see the model.

The loop videos are pre records.

euro_princess
05-19-2018, 02:16 PM
Plus, from my experience, majority of the clips are posted by affiliates, as cam4free, liveviolet and other shitty white labels that use our content to make more money. They upload them on free tube websites and make money from ads also.

Marina Starr
05-19-2018, 04:05 PM
It's been a strange week... I've gotten a lot of guys, way more than usual asking for pussy, squirting.
They must heard I have the best pussy online and wanna see if it's true.
http://i66.tinypic.com/20rwya1.jpg

kortneykay
05-19-2018, 05:34 PM
I say get your 50%. They sell out pre-records anyway and we get 0% of that.

Scorpio Girl
05-19-2018, 08:39 PM
The point I was making wasn't that they take an obscene amount, it was that by uploading your videos, you are giving them full permission to use your content royalty free as the company sees fit.

"All content uploaded to the systems by Performer/Studio shall be works made for hire under the United States Copyright Act, as amended, to the extent eligible; otherwise, Performer/Studio hereby assigns all rights, title and interests in such content to Streamate. Streamate shall then own all such content, and Streamate will have the sole discretion to use any such content in any way it so chooses, including but not limited to in any medium and in any promotion, distribution, advertising, sales and marketing efforts, both during and after the term of this Agreement."

So even with region blocking, that awesome video you made & posted on sm to sell may end up on a late night tv ad without crediting you in any capacity. They also could post the full video for free on one of the tube sites for promo. And no, they do not have to okay it with you first.

That's exactly why I won't sell any videos on there. I could care less if people find out I'm camming or making adult videos, but I'm sorry, I came up with the idea for the video, paid for any props in it, spent my time filming it and editing it, they should not be taking ownership of my video just because I'm using their site to sell it.

Erika_Xstacy
05-21-2018, 10:08 PM
Plus, from my experience, majority of the clips are posted by affiliates, as cam4free, liveviolet and other shitty white labels that use our content to make more money. They upload them on free tube websites and make money from ads also.


I have a loop video posted on one of my advertising websites.
It brings the clicks and much easier and less fuss bc models assume we are jacking their profile photos for advertising social media.
Im not so sure they are posted on tube sites bc they are coded and sm owns the rights and can potentiality be banned from affiliating.

Tube sites such as Pornhub and Xvideos are sm affiliates and then there are the other tube sites under them. They only get credit if a member signs up through that clicked link.

Erika_Xstacy
05-21-2018, 10:45 PM
I did not know paypal is used to buy camshows.

BadBitch
05-22-2018, 03:45 PM
Have all of the unintelligent men signed up for cam sites recently? Is this the way men think anymore???? When I started camming 5 years ago, these guys would actually hold conversations. They would actually go private. I would never deal with this begging on SM. This is fucking ridiculous. These assholes have zero respect for any of us. They don't respect that fact that this is how many of us women earn our living.

kortneykay
05-22-2018, 05:12 PM
Have all of the unintelligent men signed up for cam sites recently? Is this the way men think anymore???? When I started camming 5 years ago, these guys would actually hold conversations. They would actually go private. I would never deal with this begging on SM. This is fucking ridiculous. These assholes have zero respect for any of us. They don't respect that fact that this is how many of us women earn our living.

Now you know they can't think with the BIG head. Even though they were clear-minded enough to sign up and enter in the credit card #.

kortneykay
05-22-2018, 06:03 PM
Soooo the Contest coming up is basically the past 1-2 weeks on SM, except there might be a bonus. AWESOME SAUCE :D *rolls eyes* Still wishing they'd take that bonus money and invest in some paying traffic.

Camm
05-23-2018, 03:04 PM
Hi, When I click to test the new/beta user interface I am hung up on and error message that tells me, Please wait. This window will close once we verify your streaming connection. Is anyone else having issues or am I the only lucky one?

SoloDesire
05-23-2018, 06:50 PM
Hi, When I click to test the new/beta user interface I am hung up on and error message that tells me, Please wait. This window will close once we verify your streaming connection. Is anyone else having issues or am I the only lucky one?

I haven't had that issue.

scarletl
05-24-2018, 05:56 AM
I am using the OBS platform for SM. How do you ladies split cam to other sites?
Two webcams? Or can you split cam through OBS?

I wanted to split with CB/AW/BONGA cams

Marina Starr
05-24-2018, 06:31 AM
You can use verysoft cam software to splitcam using OBS.

I am using the OBS platform for SM. How do you ladies split cam to other sites?
Two webcams? Or can you split cam through OBS?

I wanted to split with CB/AW/BONGA cams

scarletl
05-24-2018, 06:41 AM
You can use verysoft cam software to splitcam using OBS.

Thank you, does it only work with verysoft or does it work with manycam too?

Marina Starr
05-24-2018, 08:06 AM
OBS works with both.

Thank you, does it only work with verysoft or does it work with manycam too?

Girly_Girl
05-24-2018, 09:00 AM
anyone ever seen this message or know what it means? I was in a long exclusive with a member then seen this? ;(

(reason: user was disconnected manually)

Camm
05-24-2018, 11:14 AM
I haven't had that issue.

Which browser do you use please?

Blovely
05-24-2018, 11:31 AM
anyone ever seen this message or know what it means? I was in a long exclusive with a member then seen this? ;(

(reason: user was disconnected manually)
I assume it means that the user clicked end show.

tropo
05-24-2018, 11:32 AM
Thank you, does it only work with verysoft or does it work with manycam too?

It should work with any cam splitting software. I've used Verysoft, but now prefer Manycam.

anonamiss
05-24-2018, 11:55 AM
I assume it means that the user clicked end show.

I don't think that's correct. When a user ends a show/leaves the room it usually just says "user left." I always thought "disconnected manually" meant someone on SM's side removed the user, for a glitch or tech issues or perhaps for breaking a rule but I kind of doubt that one.

seicento
05-24-2018, 12:23 PM
I don't think that's correct. When a user ends a show/leaves the room it usually just says "user left." I always thought "disconnected manually" meant someone on SM's side removed the user, for a glitch or tech issues or perhaps for breaking a rule but I kind of doubt that one.

That's correct. I had a fraudster in the past and every time he was back with a new account he was disconnected manually.

Erika_Xstacy
05-27-2018, 06:49 PM
I am wondering since streamate now takes paypal.. can we talk about paypal?

Ginnyyy
05-27-2018, 06:58 PM
I am pretty sure that no.

Horny
05-28-2018, 05:49 AM
Is there anywhere you can transfer and existing SM account to to get paid. I know Daily Pay and Boleyn need new accounts? I don't want to loose mind but this whole payment fiasco is driving me mad.

seicento
05-28-2018, 06:01 AM
Is there anywhere you can transfer and existing SM account to to get paid. I know Daily Pay and Boleyn need new accounts? I don't want to loose mind but this whole payment fiasco is driving me mad.

Not from what I know but with Boleyn at least, you can get your favorites transferred. I am not sure about ratings.

xcamillemoonx
05-28-2018, 03:50 PM
I just remade my profile on streamate because I was off for a while and was having trouble with placement when I got back - would anyone be willing to add some tags to my new profile before I go on for the first time? If you could add "cute", "sexy", "great tits", "great ass" and "amazing show" I'd be super grateful. It's .

Girly_Girl
05-28-2018, 05:17 PM
Whats the name of the app that sm came out with? Is anyone using it?

Erika_Xstacy
05-28-2018, 07:57 PM
Whats the name of the app that sm came out with? Is anyone using it?

NEON

I have used it when it was in test but not since then.

I never did a show with it. Just free chat.

Girly_Girl
05-28-2018, 07:59 PM
NEON

I have used it when it was in test but not since then.

I never did a show with it. Just free chat.

Is it still only available with iphone?

Erika_Xstacy
05-28-2018, 08:31 PM
Is it still only available with iphone?

yup it is. :(

BiancaNorwood
05-29-2018, 05:58 PM
I am wondering since streamate now takes paypal.. can we talk about paypal?

Wait, whaaa? When did SM start accepting PayPal?

KatyBoleyn
05-29-2018, 06:15 PM
Wait, whaaa? When did SM start accepting PayPal?

There's an exclusive deal between Paypal and a particular adult card processor in Europe. Streamate might have them as part of their billing cascade. No, its still not a thing for cammodels to take.

However, you can use it to your advantage by getting the rando "Paypal BB!?!?" ding dongs that contact you on Skype to sign up under your .cammodels link.

anonamiss
05-29-2018, 07:24 PM
Anyone else not get this weeks check yet? I usually get it on Mondays, but that was a holiday, so I expected it today. Alas, I had a empty mailbox. :/

anonamiss
05-29-2018, 07:31 PM
There's an exclusive deal between Paypal and a particular adult card processor in Europe. Streamate might have them as part of their billing cascade. No, its still not a thing for cammodels to take.

However, you can use it to your advantage by getting the rando "Paypal BB!?!?" ding dongs that contact you on Skype to sign up under your .cammodels link.

I'm curious about random guys who already have an account and ask about paypal. Presumably if they're chatting in your room they already have a credit card on file, right? I realize it doesn't benefit me personally at all, but if a guy mentions paypal (when he already has an account) should I tell him it's a payment option?

KatyBoleyn
05-29-2018, 08:18 PM
I'm curious about random guys who already have an account and ask about paypal. Presumably if they're chatting in your room they already have a credit card on file, right? I realize it doesn't benefit me personally at all, but if a guy mentions paypal (when he already has an account) should I tell him it's a payment option?

It might not be depending on where he's from. If it were me, I'd just not risk whatever perception could come of the situation. Most websites, including us, are on a zero tolerance policy when it comes to this kind of thing.

If he already has an account, he's trying to take you off site.

Horny
05-30-2018, 01:57 AM
Does anyone have any thoughts about joining Daily Pay VS Boleyn? I think sadly due to all this mess up I am going to have to do it. I am gutted about loosing my account has anyone got any positive stories about this not hammering their income?

DeepThoughts
05-30-2018, 04:37 AM
^^ Im exactly here with your horny. I am so anxious right now. I just read through Boleyn models site because the reality is I might have to join them. Honestly they seem like the best option for me as well since SM is out of options but like I have to change my name!! I just cant even handle that right now because even a variation of my name is not exactly the same. My name is my name I own all the .com possibilities, I insist in all my porn contracts that they use my name I have my social media in my name I did everything right to lock it in and now I have to change it on SM! Also there is no mention of how closing our account affects our affiliate status but Im guess anyone I have under my cammodels link is no longer my client anymore so I have to start from scratch there as well.

SM said they have another option coming to us in their most recent email but if what Katy is saying is true then we are probably all going to have to sign up under a studio if we arent American.

Horny
05-30-2018, 05:10 AM
Apparently you can keep favourites! I am more worried about the notes even if they find me I won't have a clue who they are.

DeepThoughts
05-30-2018, 05:26 AM
GAWD I rely so much on my notes! I have 4 guys all with the user name Natedog and each one of them has a very different and specific fantasy role play or thing for me to do. I rely on those notes to know which nate im dealing with so when one comes in he feel special. I want all my clients to feel special!

Way back, years ago when camming was still new, I always kept my own notes on an excel spread sheet I had set up. It would be a huge hassle but I believe I could copy all my notes onto an excel spread sheet directly from SM that way I would still have them. Its a lot of work but its so important those notes that it would be worth doing.

Either way in the meantime I have switched on my paxum payout and cancelled with Cosmo. I just cant trust them right now and Paxum is more $$ but at least i can get my cash transferred into my account.

Horny
05-30-2018, 06:27 AM
GAWD I rely so much on my notes! I have 4 guys all with the user name Natedog and each one of them has a very different and specific fantasy role play or thing for me to do. I rely on those notes to know which nate im dealing with so when one comes in he feel special. I want all my clients to feel special!

Way back, years ago when camming was still new, I always kept my own notes on an excel spread sheet I had set up. It would be a huge hassle but I believe I could copy all my notes onto an excel spread sheet directly from SM that way I would still have them. Its a lot of work but its so important those notes that it would be worth doing.

Either way in the meantime I have switched on my paxum payout and cancelled with Cosmo. I just cant trust them right now and Paxum is more $$ but at least i can get my cash transferred into my account.

I have done the same sadly I have to assume that the cosmo money is gone. Its so annoying but I need some money this week. Paxum are taking a lifetime to authorize my ID they best do it soon.

Glamourmilf
05-30-2018, 07:19 AM
Anyone else not get this weeks check yet? I usually get it on Mondays, but that was a holiday, so I expected it today. Alas, I had a empty mailbox. :/

I got mine via FedEx on Friday, because I figured this would happen.
I needed this check to pay my rent, and couldn't chance any fuck ups with getting it on time.
I hope you get it today.

euro_princess
05-30-2018, 07:39 AM
I have done the same sadly I have to assume that the cosmo money is gone. Its so annoying but I need some money this week. Paxum are taking a lifetime to authorize my ID they best do it soon.

[email protected]

He replies super fast and he's always helpful and everything. He approved my account in half of hour after I emailed him, with utility bill and ID.

Horny
05-30-2018, 08:22 AM
[email protected]

He replies super fast and he's always helpful and everything. He approved my account in half of hour after I emailed him, with utility bill and ID.

Thank you I emailed him yesterday nothing yet.

seicento
05-30-2018, 10:47 AM
Thank you I emailed him yesterday nothing yet.

Might be that sometimes he forwards the emails written in English to their regular support, he s mostly helping his co-nationals.

Erika_Xstacy
05-30-2018, 02:05 PM
There's an exclusive deal between Paypal and a particular adult card processor in Europe. Streamate might have them as part of their billing cascade. No, its still not a thing for cammodels to take.

However, you can use it to your advantage by getting the rando "Paypal BB!?!?" ding dongs that contact you on Skype to sign up under your .cammodels link.

This is why I asked if we can mention paypal bc it is a selling point.

BiancaNorwood
05-30-2018, 03:43 PM
This is why I asked if we can mention paypal bc it is a selling point.

I'm so confused, BBs. :( I always thought that Paypal was anti-adult world.

KatyBoleyn
05-30-2018, 03:47 PM
I'm so confused, BBs. :( I always thought that Paypal was anti-adult world.

Its because its not. Nobody dealing with money is anti-anything. There are no morals in the finance world.

Paypal is a "low risk" processor. Particularly client payments in the adult world is "high risk". Its the difference between credit card companies taking 0.25% per transaction or taking 12% per transaction.

There really should be a sticky thread somewhere explaining what "high risk" vs. "low risk" means.