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DeepThoughts
02-04-2019, 06:11 AM
I will only engage and talk if the conversation is not sexual. The second they start talking about sex, I tell them lets go to private. If they keep talking about sex, I keep bringing up private.

They either go private, or leave. If they are hanging in my room for too long, I kick (pretty sure they are masturbating - um no pay me for that) and if they talk about touching themselves, its an INSTANT block.

I don't have time for grown man child games.

Anyways, I might complain but there are decent dudes on SM who know the score and pay my worth.

I do this exactly except I dont kick anyone. I come from that school of "everyone is a potential client". He might not be a client right now but he might be in the future. If you have ever worked or been trained in sales this is the golden rule. That does not mean that I engage in their conversation however. I let them type out whatever they want and I respond to nothing. I speak to the other people in my room. I make jokes and start other topics and completely ignore their conversation 100%. This is super effective because even if you block or kick these guys you have responded to them in someway. If you just ignore 100% they get confused or bored and just leave on their own. You make no enemies and you have taught this freeloader how the game is played. You want my attention you pay for it!

NotANewGyal
02-04-2019, 03:39 PM
I do this exactly except I dont kick anyone. I come from that school of "everyone is a potential client". He might not be a client right now but he might be in the future. If you have ever worked or been trained in sales this is the golden rule. That does not mean that I engage in their conversation however. I let them type out whatever they want and I respond to nothing. I speak to the other people in my room. I make jokes and start other topics and completely ignore their conversation 100%. This is super effective because even if you block or kick these guys you have responded to them in someway. If you just ignore 100% they get confused or bored and just leave on their own. You make no enemies and you have taught this freeloader how the game is played. You want my attention you pay for it!

I'll try this!

Erika_Xstacy
02-04-2019, 03:43 PM
But hey, you do you girl....

I wish every model had this attitude, seriously.
every hustle is different and if i am making it in the goldshow in the goldshow, its no worries. i dont worry

if its a no go with no penetration, its still not a issue.

A scam is when I do not inform them what will happen
they are fully aware

i do like 5 goldshows a week if that

everyone knows i hate goldshows. i verbally say that as well

anonamiss
02-04-2019, 08:34 PM
does anyone know how many hours you have to have under the "my ranking" section to be listed as "average" and "good" ? (i assume "excellent" is 90 hours or above, as it implies)

i had a really bad few weeks in january where i took a bunch of time off due to an intense slump of depression and it screwed with my hours so bad. it currently says i put in 54.5 hours in the last 30 days and I'm still at a "poor" ranking. trying to bump it up and get my placement back in order.

Erika_Xstacy
02-04-2019, 08:44 PM
does anyone know how many hours you have to have under the "my ranking" section to be listed as "average" and "good" ? (i assume "excellent" is 90 hours or above, as it implies)

i had a really bad few weeks in january where i took a bunch of time off due to an intense slump of depression and it screwed with my hours so bad. it currently says i put in 54.5 hours in the last 30 days and I'm still at a "poor" ranking. trying to bump it up and get my placement back in order.

same situation.
same hours

Full time cammodel is to work 20-25 hours average weekly
I am thinking around the 70 mark is when we will see "needs improvement" or average
i forget the term used

KatM
02-04-2019, 08:53 PM
^^^I am at 79.88 hrs and it says Average, when i signed in earlier i was at 87 hrs and it said Good.
From what i seen under 70 hrs it says Poor, between 70 and 80 is Average, at 80-90 is Good then above 90 is Excellent.

Ginnyyy
02-04-2019, 09:48 PM
I find it hard to put in 90 hs a month on SM if you re also taking Skype shows or phone calls. What can I say more if you also splitcam? Being exclusive puts you at over 90hs/mo, though.

NotANewGyal
02-05-2019, 11:45 AM
does anyone know how many hours you have to have under the "my ranking" section to be listed as "average" and "good" ? (i assume "excellent" is 90 hours or above, as it implies)

i had a really bad few weeks in january where i took a bunch of time off due to an intense slump of depression and it screwed with my hours so bad. it currently says i put in 54.5 hours in the last 30 days and I'm still at a "poor" ranking. trying to bump it up and get my placement back in order.

Same! I had to take some time off and I was only working 50 hours per 30 days so now I'm working a lot to reach 90 hours per 30 days.

Miss_ShaSha
02-05-2019, 12:20 PM
For hours and ranking: I am exclusively camming with SM. I'm currently at excellent with 93.59 logged. I have been camming 8 hrs a day for about 5 days a week, sometimes 6, in the last 5 weeks.

PrincessJellyfish
02-05-2019, 06:45 PM
Does anyone know what percent you get paid for selling content on SM?

Ginnyyy
02-05-2019, 09:32 PM
It's 50%

Whatman
02-05-2019, 09:37 PM
Anyone know if the $50 daily limit is default on all Streamate sites, or is it different depending on the white/black label?

Erika_Xstacy
02-05-2019, 09:57 PM
It's 50%
95% w cammodels link ;)


Anyone know if the $50 daily limit is default on all Streamate sites, or is it different depending on the white/black label?

its default

Halo88
02-05-2019, 10:44 PM
To each their own but personally I think doing that is wrong.... I know it sucks wasting time and energy on a failed goldshow but when YOU claimed you would do XYZ in your show with an entry fee of X gold, the guys who tipped X gold did their part... either cancel it or start the show and do what YOU said you were going to do.

There is a fine line between a hustle and a scam, this crosses it for me.

And it doesn't make sense to me to do goldshows, then block guys who only do goldshows..... why do them then? But hey, you do you girl....


Actually, by canceling, the model is the one scammed. Due to guys tipping for tip vibe gratification, etc during countdowns.

There's no way a guy should get a refund after models using a tip vibe - during countdowns. That's the biggest SM customer scam out there right now. Activating those vibes when they know the model is just going to refund it

If a guy is activating my vibe during a countdown - I'm keeping that money, regardless.
If goal is not met, then I'm not obligated to the full show. Fuck that.

But yeah, Interactive vibe tips/ contributions should never be refunded.

LaylaLovely
02-06-2019, 03:10 PM
Is ther an official way to connect the tip vibe on sm? I've had one for months and haven't gotten around o incorporating it but I get asked for it a lot

PearliePuff
02-06-2019, 05:51 PM
Is ther an official way to connect the tip vibe on sm? I've had one for months and haven't gotten around o incorporating it but I get asked for it a lot

You can connect it when using smconnect to broadcast. Only certain toys are compatible though, like the we vibe and kiroo

freya_jade_
02-06-2019, 08:54 PM
Is anyone else's phone not working? When I get online to broadcast using the older website broadcaster, my phone area is inaccessible and it says "Must add phone in profile."

I see that my phone number is still added there, but it's still not working.

kamiliam
02-06-2019, 09:23 PM
Is anyone else's phone not working? When I get online to broadcast using the older website broadcaster, my phone area is inaccessible and it says "Must add phone in profile."

I see that my phone number is still added there, but it's still not working.

Yeah it is grayed out for me in the new smb. I remember when they actually used to notify us when it was down lol

Ginnyyy
02-06-2019, 09:40 PM
Phone down again but am sure it's gonna be back up as soon as they fix the glitch, just as last time.

Erika_Xstacy
02-06-2019, 09:53 PM
something is up
I am going to reinstall c2c
I can end show but it never fully disconnects. my cam is off but members are still in and out like I am still online

Ginnyyy
02-06-2019, 11:13 PM
I had a glitch with c2c just earlier. His cam feed was black every time he tried. Rated me 5stars, though but still...Told him to take it with support and report the glitch.

freya_jade_
02-07-2019, 01:58 AM
Do any of you guys use Xsplit as your external broadcaster? I am trying to use an external broadcaster but the SM one is terrible, the Adobe one is terrible, and OBS crashes every time i try to open it.

I am going to try out xsplit tomorrow. Any advice? And would it give as much of a placement boost as the other encoders?

Thanks!

LaylaLovely
02-07-2019, 10:10 AM
You can connect it when using smconnect to broadcast. Only certain toys are compatible though, like the we vibe and kiroo

Oh great why couldn't they make it compatible with all the other tip toys other sites use lol I just bought the lush ughhh although I do have an old wevibe toy hopefully that works!

innocentindian
02-07-2019, 10:13 AM
Streamate has been weirdly glitchy (more than usual! haha) this week. I've been getting black screens during cam2cam, phone service is down, I hear the 'guest enter' sound in freechat but see no new guests, and a couple guys tell me I'm lagging / blurry. Are they working on new stuff behind the scenes? I wish they would just update us to expect stuff like this.

XAnastasiaX
02-07-2019, 11:53 AM
Just curious what you have found to be the best broadcaster option on SM

I have an older I7 that runs Windows 7 ( would love to upgrade but am saving MAJOR money right now for nursing school and a house ) and I find that with the SMB C2C it runs beautifully but I am not able to record my sessions ( something I offer to those who purchase block sessions)

If I run the old SMB my CPU goes REALLY high to the point that I can hear my computers fan as can my clients ( how can I fix this?)


SM Connect worked well but I had some audio problems not to mention being as I RARELY do gold shows I found not having the external chat option, pause and classic chat feature to be annoying

I don't even know how to use OBS ( maybe a nice tutorial would be great if you even recommend it)

I use a c920 cam I have the c922 but can't use it on SM at all

Thanks
JenniferVegas

SoloDesire
02-07-2019, 01:00 PM
Just curious what you have found to be the best broadcaster option on SM

I have an older I7 that runs Windows 7 ( would love to upgrade but am saving MAJOR money right now for nursing school and a house ) and I find that with the SMB C2C it runs beautifully but I am not able to record my sessions ( something I offer to those who purchase block sessions)

If I run the old SMB my CPU goes REALLY high to the point that I can hear my computers fan as can my clients ( how can I fix this?)


SM Connect worked well but I had some audio problems not to mention being as I RARELY do gold shows I found not having the external chat option, pause and classic chat feature to be annoying

I don't even know how to use OBS ( maybe a nice tutorial would be great if you even recommend it)

I use a c920 cam I have the c922 but can't use it on SM at all

Thanks
JenniferVegas

I find that OBS works best for me. It's a pretty reliable encoder that most gamers use for Twitch and I find it works great on Streamate. If you need help setting it up I'd be more than happy to help you with screen shots on how I have mine set up. Just send me a PM if you want!

DeepThoughts
02-08-2019, 06:09 AM
Oh great why couldn't they make it compatible with all the other tip toys other sites use lol I just bought the lush ughhh although I do have an old wevibe toy hopefully that works!

If you go to this thread I have written about how I use the Lush on SM. It not exactly interactive but its a genuine response. Its still up on the last page of the thread. I hope that helps.

https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?202849-Interactive-Toys-for-CB-MFC-SM-and-more/page21&highlight=interactive+toys

freya_jade_
02-08-2019, 07:16 PM
Not a question or anything, just some random good news.

Today, for the first time EVER, I am on the 1st page of SM! EEEEP! It's the bottom of the 1st page, sometimes top of 2nd, but still!! I am sooo happy!
It happened as soon as I switched from using the website stream option to OBS, lolz. Crazy how big of a difference it makes!

But that being said, even with being on the 1st/2nd page, my room is still super dead :D

Anyone else finding it really dead tonight?

KatDaniels
02-09-2019, 12:34 PM
Actually, by canceling, the model is the one scammed. Due to guys tipping for tip vibe gratification, etc during countdowns.

There's no way a guy should get a refund after models using a tip vibe - during countdowns. That's the biggest SM customer scam out there right now. Activating those vibes when they know the model is just going to refund it

If a guy is activating my vibe during a countdown - I'm keeping that money, regardless.
If goal is not met, then I'm not obligated to the full show. Fuck that.

But yeah, Interactive vibe tips/ contributions should never be refunded.

Yep agreed! I don't do many just because I can't seem to hustle it the right way to get even half usually of what I want. But if I gave them something, even if just the smiles, wiggles or moans bc of a tip vibe I'm keeping that gold.

KatDaniels
02-09-2019, 12:36 PM
So it was better for you using OBS and not their own streaming methods?

Erika_Xstacy
02-09-2019, 02:15 PM
So it was better for you using OBS and not their own streaming methods?

it is sooo much better. like, 1000 times better
i do not understand why SM does not push to use it.
even w shit lighting it works smooth
its a good program, imo
Ive not heard a model complain that uses it and i think most of us prefer it

KatDaniels
02-09-2019, 04:27 PM
it is sooo much better. like, 1000 times better
i do not understand why SM does not push to use it.
even w shit lighting it works smooth
its a good program, imo
Ive not heard a model complain that uses it and i think most of us prefer it

I've used it on CB. So you don't notice placement issues using OBS?

Miss_ShaSha
02-10-2019, 02:02 PM
This was an impossibly slow Sunday. I've earned anywhere from $200 to $300 for a while and this just blew my mind. I'm logging off it's so slow. I made $86.86 and that's just dismal for 5 hrs on a Sunday. I'm ending today early before my mood dies as I have a dinner date with a new guy I'm seeing. Sheesh. Hopefully the rest of the week speeds up so I can make the new weekly income goal I have set for myself.

Erika_Xstacy
02-10-2019, 09:45 PM
I've used it on CB. So you don't notice placement issues using OBS?

its hard for me to say , I am off schedule for everything

LaraLee
02-11-2019, 07:19 AM
Hello, I have a question for you, out of the 8 hours a day that you work, how many of them are paid shows? You don't have to answer, i'm just trying to figure out if I should work longer shifts, and do less days a week. I work every day now, but its only 3-4 hours a day. Two days in the morning and two at night.

princess_casual
02-11-2019, 07:22 AM
Actually, by canceling, the model is the one scammed. Due to guys tipping for tip vibe gratification, etc during countdowns.

There's no way a guy should get a refund after models using a tip vibe - during countdowns. That's the biggest SM customer scam out there right now. Activating those vibes when they know the model is just going to refund it

If a guy is activating my vibe during a countdown - I'm keeping that money, regardless.
If goal is not met, then I'm not obligated to the full show. Fuck that.

But yeah, Interactive vibe tips/ contributions should never be refunded.

You make a good point. I don't have a tip vibe - nothing about that appeals to me, personally. If I did use one I might be more inclined to not cancel.

I literally just sit there and do nothing (usually typing threats to people loitering without tipping in) during a goldshow countdown. They want a cheap show, they will get a cheap show.

princess_casual
02-11-2019, 07:26 AM
Just wanted to throw this out there for any other models who live outside the US/don't have US bank account: TransferWise has borderless bank accounts in USD that you can receive wire transfers from SM to, then transfer it to your bank account. They use the real exchange rate and having a very low fee (like 3$ or something).

I'm gonna give it a try, hopefully it doesn't take too long to get payment because I lose probably 100+ euros every month with paxum since they don't use the real exchange rate.

DreamGirl37
02-11-2019, 07:52 AM
I’ve noticed some girls have their rates set very high, like $12 or $13/min for exclusive, and was wondering if they are able to get a lot of shows, or do they set their rates so high because they don’t like private and only want to do gold shows? My rates have been $5.99 and 6.99 for over a year, and I don’t do gold shows. I’d like to raise my rates by a couple dollars, but don’t want to do it if it will decrease my earnings. Any input?

Ashleymonro
02-11-2019, 08:37 AM
Truthfully... I started at 4.99 private, and 7.99 exclusive because I thought nobody would pay me more. 2 months later I jumped to 5.99 for private and 8.99 exclusive and realized i got better shows and better people not to many in and out privates 5 mins and under. Then I said ok, where would I like to be in my career and who wouldn't i mind being compared to on the site as far as price goes.. placed myself right in the middle of where the ebony top models are price range 6.99 private, 9.99 exclusive, 2 months later. ( I was already one of the ebony top models on the site, but I was lowering my value when I didnt realize it) I was nervous but confident and I was getting shows back to back still but my quality of customers where so much better. Not only did I place myself where I knew I was worth It gave me a better advantage because I wasnt working as hard as I was at my lower rates. No matter your rates, if people like you people will pay. If they cannot pay other people will

DreamGirl37
02-11-2019, 08:42 AM
Truthfully... I started at 4.99 private, and 7.99 exclusive because I thought nobody would pay me more. 2 months later I jumped to 5.99 for private and 8.99 exclusive and realized i got better shows and better people not to many in and out privates 5 mins and under. Then I said ok, where would I like to be in my career and who wouldn't i mind being compared to on the site as far as price goes.. placed myself right in the middle of where the ebony top models are price range 6.99 private, 9.99 exclusive, 2 months later. ( I was already one of the ebony top models on the site, but I was lowering my value when I didnt realize it) I was nervous but confident and I was getting shows back to back still but my quality of customers where so much better. Not only did I place myself where I knew I was worth It gave me a better advantage because I wasnt working as hard as I was at my lower rates. No matter your rates, if people like you people will pay. If they cannot pay other people will
Thanks! That helps a lot

Miss_ShaSha
02-11-2019, 10:22 AM
Hello, I have a question for you, out of the 8 hours a day that you work, how many of them are paid shows? You don't have to answer, i'm just trying to figure out if I should work longer shifts, and do less days a week. I work every day now, but its only 3-4 hours a day. Two days in the morning and two at night.

I'm relatively new coming back after a 6 yr break. For 8 hrs I make between $120-$170 usually

princess_casual
02-11-2019, 10:49 AM
I would be careful with this as SM does not allow you to change the name listed on the payment method page as it is greyed out and must match the registered account holder name. I am not sure of your location and how it might be different for you but check your USD boarderless account instructions. Mine say this:
We recently updated the account holder name for your USD bank details to include TransferWise FBO before your name.

Starting January 1, 2019, we’ll reject any wire payments made to this account that don’t include the updated account holder name. We'll only reject payments with outdated account holder names sent via wire and SWIFT payments. This change won't affect ACH payments.



I might be missing something but I decided against trying this as SM doesn't seem to be able to change the account holder name making transferwise reject and return the payment. I would be interested to know if you do manage to find a workaround though.

Ah I didn't see that... damn. I wonder if SM support can allow me to change the account holder name.

Thanks for pointing this out! I would have been screwed... I just updated the payment method today, so hopefully it doesn't mess up this weeks payout.

euro_princess
02-11-2019, 11:28 AM
Hello, I have a question for you, out of the 8 hours a day that you work, how many of them are paid shows? You don't have to answer, i'm just trying to figure out if I should work longer shifts, and do less days a week. I work every day now, but its only 3-4 hours a day. Two days in the morning and two at night.

My paid time is usually 40-50%, give or take. Slower days are 30-35% most of the time. Good days are above 60%.
To have a better view of the day, I would advise working at least 4-5h. I usually aim for 7h per day.

LaraLee
02-11-2019, 02:07 PM
Thanks for taking the time to answer

LaraLee
02-11-2019, 02:08 PM
My paid time is usually 40-50%, give or take. Slower days are 30-35% most of the time. Good days are above 60%.
To have a better view of the day, I would advise working at least 4-5h. I usually aim for 7h per day.

Thanks for your input

izshadow
02-11-2019, 02:56 PM
Anyone try the Neon app yet to stream off your phone?

Erika_Xstacy
02-11-2019, 03:03 PM
Thanks! That helps a lot

also use the "rate analysis "
Taking into consideration that you have been at 5.99/6.99 it will be easy for you to change your rates and look at your rate analysis to see if you are hindering or helping yourself

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-11-2019, 06:04 PM
Truthfully... I started at 4.99 private, and 7.99 exclusive because I thought nobody would pay me more. 2 months later I jumped to 5.99 for private and 8.99 exclusive and realized i got better shows and better people not to many in and out privates 5 mins and under. Then I said ok, where would I like to be in my career and who wouldn't i mind being compared to on the site as far as price goes.. placed myself right in the middle of where the ebony top models are price range 6.99 private, 9.99 exclusive, 2 months later. ( I was already one of the ebony top models on the site, but I was lowering my value when I didnt realize it) I was nervous but confident and I was getting shows back to back still but my quality of customers where so much better. Not only did I place myself where I knew I was worth It gave me a better advantage because I wasnt working as hard as I was at my lower rates. No matter your rates, if people like you people will pay. If they cannot pay other people will

My face started hurting from smiling so hard while reading this. :lovestruc

Halo88
02-12-2019, 03:00 AM
You make a good point. I don't have a tip vibe - nothing about that appeals to me, personally. If I did use one I might be more inclined to not cancel.

I literally just sit there and do nothing (usually typing threats to people loitering without tipping in) during a goldshow countdown. They want a cheap show, they will get a cheap show.

Yeah I personally would only use interactive vibe in countdowns during very busy times, so that I know I'm going to hit a higher goal. Otherwise, I would just feel mega ripped off having to take a show at $15-$25 to avoid refunding that tip vibe money. That's way too much work to only get 35% of it.

I would rather just do a countdown without the vibe when it's slow. Then cancel if hardly no one is joining.

princess_casual
02-12-2019, 03:28 AM
Yeah I personally would only use interactive vibe in countdowns during very busy times, so that I know I'm going to hit a higher goal. Otherwise, I would just feel mega ripped off having to take a show at $15-$25 to avoid refunding that tip vibe money. That's way too much work to only get 35% of it.

I would rather just do a countdown without the vibe when it's slow. Then cancel if hardly no one is joining.

One thing I've been doing when it's slower is have two goals listed in the show description. For example, I do X at 25$, then at goal do X. That way I don't have to cancel and I don't do a full show without reaching my goal.