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waogtrain
04-05-2019, 03:58 PM
would anyone know why smconnet is not picking up my webcam?/:O
smbc2c picks it up
I'm having the same problem. The error message I get says that I need to go into my browser settings to allow access to the cam. I have a mac and use chrome, cleared cookies, cache, and browsing history. The only options on chrome to allow access to my camera are to block the cam or to have websites ask permission. I have it set so that websites should ask permission. I'm not sure why I'm getting this error but emailed support. They haven't been very helpful so far but I'm hoping to get to the bottom of things cause I'd like to try SMConnect eventually.
Shanda1836
04-05-2019, 07:03 PM
Does anyone work steady grave yard hours on SM? If so, how is your traffic? I ask that as a general question for example, over 4 week period because I know all sites have their ups and downs.
I am scared of the sm connect. I am new on SM and I am a tecno dummy.
StellaPurr
04-05-2019, 08:57 PM
I work graveyards but am trying to move away from them. For my mental health, but also the unpredictable traffic. Sometimes I'm busy all night, sometimes there's this huge lull around 2-5am (PST) that drives me nuts. Probably because most ppl are sleeping at that time, and i rarely get custies that aren't in the US or Canada. Some girls seem to do steadily well pulling graveys though. I've found I do much better if I log in at 8 or 9 pm than say 12am.
AmaraWaters
04-05-2019, 09:23 PM
I work graveyards but am trying to move away from them. For my mental health, but also the unpredictable traffic. Sometimes I'm busy all night, sometimes there's this huge lull around 2-5am (PST) that drives me nuts. Probably because most ppl are sleeping at that time, and i rarely get custies that aren't in the US or Canada. Some girls seem to do steadily well pulling graveys though. I've found I do much better if I log in at 8 or 9 pm than say 12am.
Do you get any customers from Australia?
I’m in Australia and I often wonder if doing australian graveyard time would get me daytime US customers
Shanda1836
04-05-2019, 09:52 PM
Do you get any customers from Australia?
I’m in Australia and I often wonder if doing australian graveyard time would get me daytime US customers
I get Australian guys when they get home from work around 11 pm and between 1am and 3 am is like their beer-deinking time. I'm in Texas on central time. You are one day ahead of me for like 12 hours.
Thank You Sttella, that's good to know. I have to work at night because I have a sleep disorder.
kamiliam
04-05-2019, 10:17 PM
I am on the west coast and I kinda work graveyards... evenings till 2-4am. It works for me because I get the west coast evening to late night, east coast late night/morning. If I don't have a reg come in 1-2am is a deadzone. Funny enough get Australians throughout my shift. I suck at daytime. There really is no right time for everyone.
Halo88
04-05-2019, 11:03 PM
Ok one more lol For those of you using OBS what server do you connect to? and on the SM page do you click on use external broadcaster? I get the url and key on SM but it's not taking it I think I am using the wrong server? Thanks!
You do custom, but there is a glitch right now, where they key isn't copying.
You basically have to click it several times and it will finally copy. Sometimes you have to right click to paste it.
If it continues, send a report over to support about it. I sent one too, so hopefully they will get it fixed.
KatDaniels
04-05-2019, 11:28 PM
I'm not sure what you're asking. You just copy and paste in the server they give you when you hit "start my show". Also yes, it would be an external encoder.
Also make sure you have OBS set up correctly by following their guide https://streamatehelp.com/obs-studio-encoder/
I didn't see SM listed and the url &/or key was not working even when I copied and pasted. thanks for the link!
KatDaniels
04-05-2019, 11:31 PM
You do custom, but there is a glitch right now, where they key isn't copying.
You basically have to click it several times and it will finally copy. Sometimes you have to right click to paste it.
If it continues, send a report over to support about it. I sent one too, so hopefully they will get it fixed.
Thanks also! thats what I was asking didn't know to use custom, because I didn't see SM on the list with other sites! I used OBS on another site I used before, and I always liked using OBS. Just figured I would set it up for if I have issues with SMB!
Shanda1836
04-06-2019, 12:37 AM
I am on the west coast and I kinda work graveyards... evenings till 2-4am. It works for me because I get the west coast evening to late night, east coast late night/morning. If I don't have a reg come in 1-2am is a deadzone. Funny enough get Australians throughout my shift. I suck at daytime. There really is no right time for everyone.
I know, timing is hard to judge in this industry, but it does sound like I will survive on graveyard hours.
Marina Starr
04-06-2019, 06:05 AM
I always wonder how some girls can hoe during graveyard hours... I just cannot stay awake, I get too sleepy.
I have entertained the idea of staying up and hoe into the early am. Maybe one of these days I will just do it.
Miss_ShaSha
04-06-2019, 06:12 AM
^^I go to bed at 8:30pm - 9pm & can't stay up either, but for my mental health I stream daytime hours. But I wonder what it would be like too.
minniesoporno
04-06-2019, 06:34 AM
I always wonder how some girls can hoe during graveyard hours... I just cannot stay awake, I get too sleepy.
I have entertained the idea of staying up and hoe into the early am. Maybe one of these days I will just do it.
If I am doing a marathon I can handle a few graveyard shifts. Basically, it works out the same as when I work my daily schedule. 2 to 3 hours on cam, then a break so I can strecth and drink water. light snacks fruits or cashews.
but how my schedule is set up now I work 9 am to 12 am its about 13 hours.
You don't want to throw off your sleep routine too much it will trickle into your mental health.
Glamourmilf
04-06-2019, 08:16 AM
Ladies, please check, and double check your earnings.
This recent check was sent out with only $25 in bonus money, even though I made over $500.
I messaged Liz, and she said that it definitely was Streamates error, and the money will be added.
Of course, not in this check. Ugh!
I hope I'm wrong. But, for the last couple of months, I could swear that they're skimming off the top.
I do mostly gold shows, and don't really pay attention to who's joning, because lots of guys join mid show.
I never count the money, is what I'm saying.
The numbers seem low.
Hmm.
caramelcraze
04-06-2019, 02:21 PM
I always wonder how some girls can hoe during graveyard hours... I just cannot stay awake, I get too sleepy.
I have entertained the idea of staying up and hoe into the early am. Maybe one of these days I will just do it.
I typically work graveyard (and then some). took forever to build up regs though.
Marina Starr
04-06-2019, 04:57 PM
How do you stay up girl? I typically to go bed around 10pm, my body just goes right to sleep whether I like it or not, LOL.
I typically work graveyard (and then some). took forever to build up regs though.
caramelcraze
04-06-2019, 05:22 PM
How do you stay up girl? I typically to go bed around 10pm, my body just goes right to sleep whether I like it or not, LOL.
I've always been a night owl, even before camming. go to bed by 6:30am or so and wake up around noon or 2pm. i have to take sleeping meds to go to bed earlier. just the way my body is I suppose.
minniesoporno
04-06-2019, 06:13 PM
How do you stay up girl? I typically to go bed around 10pm, my body just goes right to sleep whether I like it or not, LOL.
Webcam does runs 24 / 7
so if that is your schedule, natural or created by habit just stick with it.
Shanda1836
04-06-2019, 06:36 PM
I cammed late nights for a very long time, and will NEVER go back to that again. During that time period, I had trouble going to sleep, never rested well. I was sleep deprived most days, since I often had things that needed to be done early in the day.
I didn't realize how much of a difference it made, until I got my body trained and on a healthy morning wake schedule.
I love having an earlier bed time and waking up by 7am.
My skin looks MUCH better, I have more energy, and just feel healthier overall.
My social life is also amazing now, too!
If I want to go on cam late evenings, I set a quit time for something like 9 or 10pm at the latest.
* The questions about graveyard traffic - I always thought the paying traffic was excellent, which is why I chose to work those hours. $$$$$
11PM-7AM EST was my best experience with it, since you get hits from all time zones, as well as Europe and Australia.
If you can swing it for a long term schedule, and stay consistent, it's definitely worth it.
Well, you wouldn't want to work them for the reason I do. I have a horrible debilitating sleep disorder. I will not take addictive drugs. And the times when I can sleep change at times. but it began in my childhood due to environmental issues. All of the sudden about 3 months ago, I have not been able to go to sleep until between 6 and 7 am.
Shanda1836
04-06-2019, 07:14 PM
About the external coders...I have no clue what they are. I have an i7 processor. I have not used the encoders. I don't even know where to begin. I don't understand what they wiil or will not do to my computer. I can see from the posts here that I should be using them. Can I learn about them online somewhere?
I am streaming without them. How bad is that?
Ginnyyy
04-06-2019, 07:31 PM
About the external coders...I have no clue what they are. I have an i7 processor. I have not used the encoders. I don't even know where to begin. I don't understand what they wiil or will not do to my computer. I can see from the posts here that I should be using them. Can I learn about them online somewhere?
I am streaming without them. How bad is that?
This is about the Adobe FMLE Encoder which basically does the same thing as the OBS Encoder
https://streamatehelp.com/interested-in-streaming-in-hd/
And this is about OBS, both of them being pretty intuitive encoders.
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?199503-OBS-Open-Broadcaster-Software-as-an-Alternative-to-Flash-Media-Encoder
You can either use SMConnect (non-Flash), SMB or go online with an encoder of your choice when you have your Streamate tab open. Select in the top left Quality button: External Encoding, then click Start Broadcasting or whatever says on your Encoder. Make sure to do the settings on the encoder, such as webcam, mic, etc. I liked both and when SM started not to recognize my Flash Encoder, I switched to OBS (for OBS once in a while, the mic dropped and I needed to set it back in settings). I like the newest SMB version as it allow me to use Verysoft splitter. I use a splitter even if I am not splitting sites, as I like seeing myself big on the screen :)
minniesoporno
04-06-2019, 07:32 PM
About the external coders...I have no clue what they are. I have an i7 processor. I have not used the encoders. I don't even know where to begin. I don't understand what they wiil or will not do to my computer. I can see from the posts here that I should be using them. Can I learn about them online somewhere?
I am streaming without them. How bad is that?
in the streamatehelp website explains how to use them.
Erika_Xstacy
04-06-2019, 08:10 PM
I'm having the same problem. The error message I get says that I need to go into my browser settings to allow access to the cam. I have a mac and use chrome, cleared cookies, cache, and browsing history. The only options on chrome to allow access to my camera are to block the cam or to have websites ask permission. I have it set so that websites should ask permission. I'm not sure why I'm getting this error but emailed support. They haven't been very helpful so far but I'm hoping to get to the bottom of things cause I'd like to try SMConnect eventually.
SM does not have the best support.
I will have a issue that is small and i receive a reply 3 days later.
SW usually has a answer such as Halo letting us know there is/was a Glitch w copy paste to stream :) ty! for that :)
Shanda1836
04-07-2019, 04:34 PM
Thank you, Ginny.
I am not sure that I need an encoder.
My speed was so slow until my community finally found a company to install cable. At that time, 3 long years, I did not even have enough speed to be able to use an encoder. It wasn't too long ago that CB began offering encoders. But I showed I was streaming in HD after I installed cable service. I figured I did not need it.
I have 3 mbps upload speed. Are the encoders for streaming for people with slow speed?
Is my upload speed high enough so that I do not need an encoder?
I read through the comments here. Does using encoders help with placement, no matter if you need one or not?
BadBitch
04-07-2019, 08:46 PM
Ladies, please check, and double check your earnings.
This recent check was sent out with only $25 in bonus money, even though I made over $500.
I messaged Liz, and she said that it definitely was Streamates error, and the money will be added.
Of course, not in this check. Ugh!
I hope I'm wrong. But, for the last couple of months, I could swear that they're skimming off the top.
I do mostly gold shows, and don't really pay attention to who's joning, because lots of guys join mid show.
I never count the money, is what I'm saying.
The numbers seem low.
Hmm.
It's fucking unbelievable how SM hasn't paid some girls the contest money. Fucking infuriating.
Glamourmilf
04-08-2019, 09:49 AM
It's fucking unbelievable how SM hasn't paid some girls the contest money. Fucking infuriating.
It truly is infuriating.
Genoveve
04-08-2019, 01:06 PM
I have 3 mbps upload speed. Are the encoders for streaming for people with slow speed?
Is my upload speed high enough so that I do not need an encoder?
I read through the comments here. Does using encoders help with placement, no matter if you need one or not?
Any time my upload has been under 10mbps I could not stream at the proper resolution. My placement tanks if I do not use an encoder.
Halo88
04-08-2019, 04:03 PM
This is about the Adobe FMLE Encoder which basically does the same thing as the OBS Encoder
https://streamatehelp.com/interested-in-streaming-in-hd/
Flash Media Live Encoder has been discontinued by Adobe for a few years now. It's extremely outdated so I wouldn't trust running it.
Joijoijoi
04-09-2019, 02:00 AM
Yep! You definitely don’t have to have free chat. They used to require you to use free chat for ‘Top Spot GOld Shows’ but they’ve just stopped offering those so there’s basically no reason to have free chat
Hey!
How do I do this im using smconnect and cant seem to see this in settings? Also when you say no free chat does it mean they just cant type to me or does it mean I wont even show on streamate to users unless they are logged in with a credit card etc?
Thank you
euro_princess
04-09-2019, 05:05 AM
Hey!
How do I do this im using smconnect and cant seem to see this in settings? Also when you say no free chat does it mean they just cant type to me or does it mean I wont even show on streamate to users unless they are logged in with a credit card etc?
Thank you
I think there is a confusion between what we traditionally call free chat and what's free chat technically on SM.
Guest chat = possible paying clients (card added) -> what we normally call free chat in our circles.
Free chat = non paying clients (no card) -> nobody giving a shit about this, extra cheap bastards trying to get free titties.
kortneykay
04-09-2019, 05:19 AM
I've always been a night owl but I can switch back and forth in 2 days or so if necessary. Since moving to Europe it's been even better as I get the best of both worlds being 5-6h ahead. You get Euros, Aussies, and Americans as you're up before them and can start early and stay on later. 12Am EST-4am or even 6 pops off too and by that time its 6am-12pm my time and I can pass out having ended the shift with a pay blast from drunk club rejects and early morning horndogs.
JustineA
04-10-2019, 03:02 PM
stupid question but do gold shows count towards earnings for the contest? thx
Halo88
04-10-2019, 03:30 PM
stupid question but do gold shows count towards earnings for the contest? thx
Yeah.
Shanda1836
04-10-2019, 06:33 PM
Well, I can't find out much info that I want. I'm using the connect that you click into on dashboard. It didn't work the other day so I cammed in regular broadcast, whatever that is. I have a customer who says that he ended up with a monthly charge so he won't come see me on SM.
Question: Does SM charge something to become an account holder with a credit card on a monthly basis?
My guy said this, and he wasn't referring to SM: But when I signed up for one of them before, same as your new site they wanted your credit card details and I got ripped off every month.
I think the damn cam sites ought to operate with the free market principle. unlike SM. I wonder if SM realizes that if models could communicate outside SM with whales and give out their personal websites, how much more revenue they could reap in.
I guess this is a newbie prob, but I am inundated with guys trying to get me to break the no nudity below the waist in guest chat. I guess they're playing the numbers and I'm taking them too seriously but how can they believe that I am that dumb? LOL
Shanda1836
04-10-2019, 07:07 PM
How do you set up phone capability? I saw it once, and now I cannot find it. I set it to receive calls, but I do not know if I have to set it every time I log on, or if it stays on that mode until I change it. Maybe I am that dumb. LOL
euro_princess
04-10-2019, 08:01 PM
stupid question but do gold shows count towards earnings for the contest? thx
Yes, but keep in mind that earnings from gold shows don't show up right away. They are generated at the minute 00-10-20-30 (and so on). And because they are generated at that specific time, they will count towards your ranking at the next update (so 5, 15, 25 etc). So always manage your time properly if the day ends and you want your GS earnings to be on that date.
Halo88
04-10-2019, 10:51 PM
I think the damn cam sites ought to operate with the free market principle. unlike SM. I wonder if SM realizes that if models could communicate outside SM with whales and give out their personal websites, how much more revenue they could reap in.
Stealing traffic isn't cool, especially since a cut of OUR earnings go to SM to put back out there, to pay affiliates to bring us traffic. That's how SM works. They will suspend you for that shit.
Shanda1836
04-11-2019, 12:14 AM
Stealing traffic isn't cool, especially since a cut of OUR earnings go to SM to put back out there, to pay affiliates to bring us traffic. That's how SM works. They will suspend you for that shit.
I’m not talking about taking traffic away from any site. What I mean by the free market is that the freedom to communicate offsite with customers always brought more money onsite, meaning the site that I work on. The free market always wins in revenue. I also did not imply that I am stealing traffic. I said one of my whales is not going to visit me on SM, and I pointed out why. In no way did I imply that I was trying to steal traffic. I need to know if SM charges a monthly fee for being an account holder so I can tell my customer that information.
I am not trying to steal traffic, I'm trying to bring traffic to me...LOL I just do not get the no-contact clauses.
Just tonight after I wrote this post I didn't know it, but sm connect wasn't scrolling my chat screen, and someone finally told me in an email what was happening. How did he get my email? I sure don't even talk about email on SM.
He has been around the block a few times and he started looking for me on other sites and found my email address on my CB profile. That's pretty good! He couldn't tell me that guys were chatting with me because I couldn't see it.
I am not trying to steal traffic, I'm trying to bring traffic to me...LOL I just do not get the no-contact clauses.
I lost 2 hours because of SM Connect.
I'm having a lot of problems with SM connect, but I didn't find the answers to my questions in the SM help sites that Ginnyyy posted here.
I found the phone prob. You can connect your phone in the regular broadcast format. but not in SM Connect. Does anyone know how that works?
Halo88
04-11-2019, 02:02 AM
I said one of my whales is not going to visit me on SM, and I pointed out why. In no way did I imply that I was trying to steal traffic. I need to know if SM charges a monthly fee for being an account holder so I can tell my customer that information.
If your "Whale" is so concerned about a monthly fee, then he's not a "whale".
Shanda1836
04-11-2019, 02:05 PM
If your "Whale" is so concerned about a monthly fee, then he's not a "whale".
That is not true, and I do not understand why I am offending you. I surely do apologize if I have personally offended you, but I have never met you, and have never corresponded with you until you answered me. Your hostility is confusing me. I do not want to continue posting here because in no way do I want to offend anyone. Yes, he is a whale. but and several of my customers have informed me they will not be visiting me on SM because they do not want their credit cards in the SM system. These are customers that have been ripped off by porn sites that charge monthly fees. Many unscrupulous porn sites have that policy and the practice is disguised in the fine print.
I get back to my original question: Does SM charge a monthly fee just for having an account tied to a credit card?
I want to thank the ladies who did answer my questions. SM is very different from what I did for the last three years, and it is true that SM takes days to answer questions. I have always had good experiences on this forum. I did not think that I had offended anyone with my questions. My questions may be too dumb...I don't know, but it's not worth it to go through drama. It looks like you have a little gang going on here and no newcomers are allowed.
I will check back for answers, but I will not be posting or replying in this thread. Thank you very much ladies!
Ginnyyy
04-11-2019, 02:51 PM
Well, I can't find out much info that I want. I'm using the connect that you click into on dashboard. It didn't work the other day so I cammed in regular broadcast, whatever that is. I have a customer who says that he ended up with a monthly charge so he won't come see me on SM.
Question: Does SM charge something to become an account holder with a credit card on a monthly basis?
My guy said this, and he wasn't referring to SM: But when I signed up for one of them before, same as your new site they wanted your credit card details and I got ripped off every month.
I think the damn cam sites ought to operate with the free market principle. unlike SM. I wonder if SM realizes that if models could communicate outside SM with whales and give out their personal websites, how much more revenue they could reap in.
- for people who don t read anything before signing up or signing something or for those not familiar with internet pages, they ll always encounter this issue. SM offers members to subscribe to some porn sites for a monthly fee but before accepting OK, the future SM member needs to uncheck that/those options. It was prechecked when I signed up so he just needs to un-check it next time and read what s written there, to avoid future mistakes. He can talk to the SM support however to get rid of the monthly subscription.
-yes, you can add your personal website on SM by talking to the SM support or if it s a ModelCentro website, such as the one in my signature, you just connect your site with one button on MC, skipping the chat with the SM support. This way, you will pay Sm as an affiliate and you will split the profits for SM members joining your site. You need to have a few videos there and guys will be charged monthly for a subscription. Only SM members with debit/credit cards (and according to some girls, not from every country) will see the button to Join Your Site, the ones with pre-paid won t see it, cause in order to subscribe to your site, they will be billed on a monthly basis, so not possible with pre-paid.
EDIT: BTW you still won t be allowed to tell your domain name to SM members, because SM needs to create a .net etc clone to your website so they ll send their traffic there in order to count the actual sign ups who went through SM. Members are not able to see your site before signing up. Most guys almost never figure out that it s enough to just Google search for the performer name + site (+ twitter; + Skype etc.)
kamiliam
04-11-2019, 04:17 PM
I opened my customer account before I even opened my model account, so I am a little hazy on all the details. The first purchase I made as a customer I noticed an extra charge. I believe I accidentally joined a model’s monthly site. You know what I did? I contacted support and they reversed the charge, never had a problem again. That is what you should tell your customer. I have to agree his behavior does not indicate a SM whale. In my experience whales on Sm know the site very well. They have been around awhile, know when to use their rewards, how to operate the functions and when to contact support. To me he sounds like he wants to take you offsite then probably do a chargeback. It’s more likely he was doing some funny business with his card then Sm intentionally scamming him.
Ginnyyy
04-11-2019, 05:49 PM
Thank you, Ginny.
I am not sure that I need an encoder.
My speed was so slow until my community finally found a company to install cable. At that time, 3 long years, I did not even have enough speed to be able to use an encoder. It wasn't too long ago that CB began offering encoders. But I showed I was streaming in HD after I installed cable service. I figured I did not need it.
I have 3 mbps upload speed. Are the encoders for streaming for people with slow speed?
Is my upload speed high enough so that I do not need an encoder?
I read through the comments here. Does using encoders help with placement, no matter if you need one or not?
You'd do fine with your internet upload as long as it s stable, but according to the latest SM e-mails that they ve sent to us, they don t care about encoders anymore. They would love us to use either SMB with the regular SM page; the new hmtl5 SM Connect or the Neon app for mobile.
Also, I noticed that for me, the encoders take up way more CPU resources than SMB or SM Connect so no point in using an encoder anymore but you do whatever it s fine for you and your stream.
Shanda1836
04-11-2019, 10:01 PM
I opened my customer account before I even opened my model account, so I am a little hazy on all the details. The first purchase I made as a customer I noticed an extra charge. I believe I accidentally joined a model’s monthly site. You know what I did? I contacted support and they reversed the charge, never had a problem again. That is what you should tell your customer. I have to agree his behavior does not indicate a SM whale. In my experience whales on Sm know the site very well. They have been around awhile, know when to use their rewards, how to operate the functions and when to contact support. To me he sounds like he wants to take you offsite then probably do a chargeback. It’s more likely he was doing some funny business with his card then Sm intentionally scamming him.
Oh, Thanks, but he's never been on Streamate...He has been ripped off on other sites similar to SM. So no, he is not an SM whale...LOL
pippapippa
04-11-2019, 10:15 PM
Did Streamate just get rid of the stream health widget on SMconnect?I don’t see it anywhere.
Joijoijoi
04-12-2019, 04:26 AM
Did Streamate just get rid of the stream health widget on SMconnect?I don’t see it anywhere.
I was just thinking the same thing! I cant see it today and its annoying i liked that feature
~Carmen~
04-12-2019, 11:19 AM
Do any of you use the Logitech c922 cam on SM? I bought it a couple of years ago ago but I never could get it above 10 fps on SM. I tried it with SMB and fmle. I did not have OBS at the time. It's an excellent cam and I would buy it again in a heartbeat if I knew it would work.
I am wondering if the 920 is being discontinued because it is no longer available on the Best Buy website. Amazon has it but it has gone up in price.
LaraLee
04-12-2019, 12:37 PM
Do any of you use the Logitech c922 cam on SM? I bought it a couple of years ago ago but I never could get it above 10 fps on SM. I tried it with SMB and fmle. I did not have OBS at the time. It's an excellent cam and I would buy it again in a heartbeat if I knew it would work.
I am wondering if the 920 is being discontinued because it is no longer available on the Best Buy website. Amazon has it but it has gone up in price.
I have been using the c922 for over a year on streamate, its still my streaming camera I use everyday
Erika_Xstacy
04-12-2019, 12:44 PM
Do any of you use the Logitech c922 cam on SM? I bought it a couple of years ago ago but I never could get it above 10 fps on SM. I tried it with SMB and fmle. I did not have OBS at the time. It's an excellent cam and I would buy it again in a heartbeat if I knew it would work.
I am wondering if the 920 is being discontinued because it is no longer available on the Best Buy website. Amazon has it but it has gone up in price.
youre good to go, they fixed it late 2017
~Carmen~
04-12-2019, 12:55 PM
This is wonderful news, thank you both so much.