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ggminx
05-25-2019, 11:49 PM
the way i decide to up my rate is if i'm in shows back to back to back to back and feel like i'm working like crazy in private/exclusive shows. this means that there is high demand. usually i'll up the rate by $1/minute at that point. when i'm working like crazy again in back to back to back shows, then i'll up the rate again by $1/min. i usually give it a couple of weeks at back to back to back shows so that i know i am consistently in demand and it's reasonable to up the rate.

some regulars will not be able to afford the new rate and keep their shows shorter with you (which is fine bc you'll likely end up earning the same amount with a shorter show at your new rate!). some may opt to no longer have shows with you. some will even ask why you didn't up your rates sooner because you're worth it!

there will always be new custies that can afford your new rate too and these will far outweigh any custies that might not be able to afford you any longer

caramelcraze
05-26-2019, 01:56 AM
What generally happens, in a broad sense, when one ups their $rate per minute? I have not had time to attract many regulars on SM, and most of my previous whales are not going to become SM members. I am in my fifth week on SM. I am meeting my goals.

I cam on the side. It is a support system for making ends meet. I cannot invest in social media, website, etc. like full-time cammers. I invest in those for my freelance writing biz. But, I do not want to sell myself out too cheaply.

Is this a good time to up my prices?

I've over doubled my rate since starting on SM. With the first increase a few years ago (upped both private and exclusive by $1), my time in private actually increased by about 10% and I started getting waaaaay fewer demanding customers. Your rate is very much a personal thing so if you feel like it's time to try out a new price, bump it up by .50 or $1 or even $1.50 and wait a week. After that week, compare your earnings and time in private.

Also, I wouldn't count out social media. You can use a site like twuffer to schedule tweets on twitter and also blast your cammodels link (which gives you a large extra % if someone does decide to sign up). You don't have to spend a lot of time doing so & I've found that it's generally worth it to get your die hard fans in your cam room and spending as soon as you're online (or even while you're offline, because who doesn't like passive income).

Shanda1836
05-26-2019, 05:27 AM
Thank you GG and Caramel! I think I will up my rate and not worry about slow days and see if it carries over. But, and there's always a but, I am not fucking myself back to back in a flurried frenzy at this time. My demand must improve...LOL

freya_jade_
05-28-2019, 09:39 PM
I am going to fucking scream. I have been gone from Streamate for about a month for computer issues. I finally get back on and all my ratings disappeared. All of my tech requirements are EXCELLENT, but the one thing holding me back are these goddamn ratings. I went from the 1st page to the 4th page. I have almost no traffic, and it feels like an uphill battle to get enough new customers to even give me new ratings to begin with. The few privates I have gotten, I tell them all to rate me and they say they will and then DON'T.

Anyone else been through this on Streamate? I just kinda need some reassurance from my lovely StripperWeb models that I WILL make it out of this and get my placement back, lol. I'm gonna try to stay up really late tonight camming, as 11pm -3am is usually my best traffic.

ggminx
05-28-2019, 10:20 PM
I tell them all to rate me and they say they will and then DON'T.


I'd suggest giving custies an extra incentive to rate you. Tell them to message you after they have rated you and you'll reply with a special photo or short video. that usually does the trick!

Serena113
05-29-2019, 07:13 PM
I think there is a glitch on the customer end of ratings too... When I first came back from my hiatus, I got two ratings and then nothing for a week. Couldn’t figure out why, and even customers I’d seen before who rate every time weren’t leaving ratings. Then a guy popped into my chat room to ask how to rate me since he wasn’t given the option to do so after our show ended. I had no idea what to tell him, except that it must be a glitch. The weirdness spontaneously resolved itself a few days later, and guys started leaving ratings without even being asked.

freya_jade_
05-29-2019, 11:32 PM
I'd suggest giving custies an extra incentive to rate you. Tell them to message you after they have rated you and you'll reply with a special photo or short video. that usually does the trick!

Thank you! I did this and I got one :) Now I just need two more to get back on the first page!

freya_jade_
05-30-2019, 01:52 AM
Okay, i finally made my goal of 5 ratings! It took me two days. Would just like to second what Serena said up there in that I had a customer tell me the rating prompt wasn't popping up after our sessions. So that's another glitch with Streamate right now :/

tropo
05-30-2019, 02:16 AM
Since Most websites give you 50%, and SM only give 35% of payments (I think at least from what I read?). Just trying to see if it's somewhere it's worth getting the 35% instead of the 50%

A lot of us only get 30% with a 3-week delay for payment. There are also now complications (expenses) of getting your money if you live in a far off country (for example, Paxum, which once again has had a card provider "disappear"). I would say the benefits of working on SM are borderline and fast disappearing. Need I mention appalling and totally impersonal customer service? When it was pumping, several years back, the answer would have been "yes".

SM is destroying their own business by paying out only 30 - 35%. Girls charge more because of the low payout, and as a result, it has become too expensive in the current camming climate. At least they could have offered a better payout for tips. Taking 70% of my tips? Not cool!

Nicci84
05-30-2019, 11:40 AM
Any of you girls use PAXUM as a payment option with Streamate? If yes, do withdrawls work pretty smoothly?

Cheers

Nicci

Charlotteslut
05-30-2019, 12:58 PM
I would not recommend Paxum. We have a thread in the industry section. they are changing things and it's been a nightmare for many models

Holly_xoxo
05-30-2019, 01:04 PM
Any of you girls use PAXUM as a payment option with Streamate? If yes, do withdrawls work pretty smoothly?

Cheers

Nicci

I also wouldn't recommend Paxum.

KatM
05-30-2019, 01:12 PM
^^^ Paxum can be a good payment solution to people outside US, i used it together with Cosmo, the thing that is not working anymore is Instant transfers to Visa cards, for some reason they not doing business with Visa for these transfers tho i was able to transfer money directly to my bank account using the EFT option and it only costs $5 so yeah, why not?

ETA: ok, i have read ur posts in Paxum thread in Industry Insight and see how u guys had/have issues with them, i am sorry for all that complications, i used them as emergency solution here but again, depends where u from and what transfer option u choose, i only used EFT and Direct transfer to card when Visa was accepted, i am in Europe & i dont own a Mastercard from a local bank, they all seem to issue Visa's here.
I dont want their card either cause is expensive and takes very long to arrive here, i have the Cosmo card, they offered me a Visa card to replace the Mastercard i had from them and i accepted it, Cosmo issue Visa cards now; i used Paxum til i received the Cosmo Visa card.
So yeah, everyone seem to have different experience with Paxum...

izshadow
05-30-2019, 01:13 PM
Stupid question but when guys connect their webcam for C2C, am I suppose to hear them to? Or was that what the phone option was for, if they wanted to be heard to?

KatM
05-30-2019, 01:45 PM
Stupid question but when guys connect their webcam for C2C, am I suppose to hear them to? Or was that what the phone option was for, if they wanted to be heard to?

If they have a mic u'll hear them too, yes

izshadow
05-30-2019, 01:53 PM
If they have a mic u'll hear them too, yes

Thank you. I am having an issue with my speaker set up then on my desktop. I'll have to get some newer ones when I'm out and about tomorrow.

Nicci84
05-30-2019, 04:35 PM
^^^ Paxum can be a good payment solution to people outside US, i used it together with Cosmo, the thing that is not working anymore is Instant transfers to Visa cards, for some reason they not doing business with Visa for these transfers tho i was able to transfer money directly to my bank account using the EFT option and it only costs $5 so yeah, why not?

ETA: ok, i have read ur posts in Paxum thread in Industry Insight and see how u guys had/have issues with them, i am sorry for all that complications, i used them as emergency solution here but again, depends where u from and what transfer option u choose, i only used EFT and Direct transfer to card when Visa was accepted, i am in Europe & i dont own a Mastercard from a local bank, they all seem to issue Visa's here.
I dont want their card either cause is expensive and takes very long to arrive here, i have the Cosmo card, they offered me a Visa card to replace the Mastercard i had from them and i accepted it, Cosmo issue Visa cards now; i used Paxum til i received the Cosmo Visa card.
So yeah, everyone seem to have different experience with Paxum...

Thanks girls,

Hmm, thing is I don't have lot's of options. I am not in the US, neither in Europe, neither in Colombia, so it looks like this is the only option for me. I used Pioneer in the past and it was good. Then stopped working, now working again and it looks like the only one for me is Paxum

KatM
05-30-2019, 04:57 PM
^^^ If there is no other option then go for Paxum and pray for the best, good luck! xx

Nicci84
05-30-2019, 05:19 PM
^^^ If there is no other option then go for Paxum and pray for the best, good luck! xx

Cheers Kat, will definitely pray. But it can't be that bad if they offer it there, can it? Will probably request their card, regardless of the cost, guess that's more easy than bank transfers all the time. I used the Pyoneer card for years, wasn't cheap either (think it was 40 US$ per year), but it worked like a charm, never had any issues with it. Hope it'll be the same with Paxum, but it looks like this is the only option for me

freya_jade_
05-30-2019, 11:07 PM
What in the hell is going on with placement?! Is there some sort of glitch?! I have a 5 star rating and am using SMConnect with great stream health, and I SHOULD be ranked highly! The other night with these stats I was on the first page. But now I am on the EIGHTH!!! I am NEVER ranked this far back!

Anyone else had a problem like this recently?!

DeepThoughts
05-31-2019, 12:37 AM
Cheers Kat, will definitely pray. But it can't be that bad if they offer it there, can it? Will probably request their card, regardless of the cost, guess that's more easy than bank transfers all the time. I used the Pyoneer card for years, wasn't cheap either (think it was 40 US$ per year), but it worked like a charm, never had any issues with it. Hope it'll be the same with Paxum, but it looks like this is the only option for me

I ordered my Paxum card when Payoneer stopped paying us and I just received it two days ago! So dont hold your breath! :D

KatM
05-31-2019, 04:02 AM
^^^ OMG!! It took them more than 6 months to send u the card?! I dont even remember when Payoneer went out of the business but it's more than 6 months, right?! Guess they were overloaded with new accounts & card requests, they even said they very busy as they took most of the Payoneer customers but still, it took them way too long to send u the card, maybe it was lost & found on the way to u?!
Yeah, best is to order a card and make transfers til the card comes by post, maybe they not soo busy anymore...

Miss_ShaSha
05-31-2019, 04:43 AM
What in the hell is going on with placement?! Is there some sort of glitch?! I have a 5 star rating and am using SMConnect with great stream health, and I SHOULD be ranked highly! The other night with these stats I was on the first page. But now I am on the EIGHTH!!! I am NEVER ranked this far back!

Anyone else had a problem like this recently?!

It's a glitch. Usually takes 15-30 min to adjust. Restart your show after 30 min if it doesn't fix itself.

SuperPookie
05-31-2019, 05:08 AM
Stupid question but when guys connect their webcam for C2C, am I suppose to hear them to? Or was that what the phone option was for, if they wanted to be heard to?

Is there anyway to turn off the oncoming audio? Whenever a guy turns it on If there is another customer he leaves right away

Nicci84
05-31-2019, 05:20 AM
I ordered my Paxum card when Payoneer stopped paying us and I just received it two days ago! So dont hold your breath! :D
Damn!!!!!!!??????

izshadow
05-31-2019, 07:36 AM
Is there anyway to turn off the oncoming audio? Whenever a guy turns it on If there is another customer he leaves right away

Only offer C2C with exclusive where you are one on one. Not in private where you can have multiple customers.

KatM
05-31-2019, 07:47 AM
^^^ That would be an ideal situation but some guys request c2c while in private and i never deny them as this would mean to loose business really. Every little helps so yeah, not denying money here u know.
Regarding the original question, from what i remember with cam2cam beta on SMB there is no button to mute the guys's audio so what i would do is mute MY audio so the one talking cant be heard or deny the new cam2cam requests, it can be worked around.

DeepThoughts
05-31-2019, 07:49 AM
^^^ OMG!! It took them more than 6 months to send u the card?! I dont even remember when Payoneer went out of the business but it's more than 6 months, right?! Guess they were overloaded with new accounts & card requests, they even said they very busy as they took most of the Payoneer customers but still, it took them way too long to send u the card, maybe it was lost & found on the way to u?!
Yeah, best is to order a card and make transfers til the card comes by post, maybe they not soo busy anymore...

I actually had forgotten that I ordered it! and that cost me 60 bucks! I received the Cosmo card the same week I ordered it so I just started using that but imagine if that was our only option!?!?!!? So stupid! I dont think it got lost though because it came by registered mail. I had to sign for it.


Is there anyway to turn off the oncoming audio? Whenever a guy turns it on If there is another customer he leaves right away

On the clients image in the bottom center of their screen there is a microphone icon. If you click it it turns the sound on or off so you can choose to hear them or not. For some reason mine is always set to off. That is on the SMC2C. I forget where it was for SMB

euro_princess
05-31-2019, 09:00 AM
^For SMConnect you get a little pop up on your screen with your client's camera. Mine has mute preset for some reason. Unless the guy actually wants to talk to me, I keep it that way. Sound button it's right in the center of that window.

Serena113
05-31-2019, 05:18 PM
^^^ That would be an ideal situation but some guys request c2c while in private and i never deny them as this would mean to loose business really. Every little helps so yeah, not denying money here u know.
Regarding the original question, from what i remember with cam2cam beta on SMB there is no button to mute the guys's audio so what i would do is mute MY audio so the one talking cant be heard or deny the new cam2cam requests, it can be worked around.

It doesn’t mean lost business for me. I put in my profile and my topic that I only do c2c in Exclusive. Most guys take me exclusive for c2c. When someone tries in private I reject the request and tell I only do that in Exclusive Chat and that we’re in Group Private. I tell him I’m happy to keep going in private, but if he really wants to use his cam, we need to go somewhere where we don’t have to worry about other guys dropping in on us. A few keep going without the cam, but the vast majority exit private and take me Exclusive. Some idiots continue trying to turn their cam on and end up blocked, particularly if there are already other guys in private, but that’s rare.

KatM
05-31-2019, 06:04 PM
^^^ Sure, that's a good tactic as well, everyone does what fits best for them xx

KatM
05-31-2019, 07:30 PM
^For SMConnect you get a little pop up on your screen with your client's camera. Mine has mute preset for some reason. Unless the guy actually wants to talk to me, I keep it that way. Sound button it's right in the center of that window.

It's the same with SMB c2c beta, i noticed it today as i had few c2c sessions, it was not there before; nice they added the button.

SweetSouthernElle
05-31-2019, 07:57 PM
I'm so excited!!! I haven't been on SM in forever but I was on for a few hours yesterday and was on the bottom of page 7. I've been on a lot today and I'm at the bottom of page 4!!!!!!

caramelcraze
05-31-2019, 10:39 PM
It doesn’t mean lost business for me. I put in my profile and my topic that I only do c2c in Exclusive. Most guys take me exclusive for c2c. When someone tries in private I reject the request and tell I only do that in Exclusive Chat and that we’re in Group Private. I tell him I’m happy to keep going in private, but if he really wants to use his cam, we need to go somewhere where we don’t have to worry about other guys dropping in on us. A few keep going without the cam, but the vast majority exit private and take me Exclusive. Some idiots continue trying to turn their cam on and end up blocked, particularly if there are already other guys in private, but that’s rare.

I do the same thing. 9 times out of 10 they leave and then take me exclusive.

izshadow
06-01-2019, 01:23 PM
I know a new week on SM starts every Saturday so that would be 8pm UTC on Friday night if living in the US on the east coast. Correct? Cause 8pm Friday night would be 12am UTC....

Pay is Saturday thru Friday on SM?

I'm bad with numbers. I'm sorry. I just want to make sure what I wrote down on my sticky note to smack on my computer screen is 100% correct.

SweetSouthernElle
06-01-2019, 01:31 PM
I know a new week on SM starts every Saturday so that would be 8pm UTC on Friday night if living in the US on the east coast. Correct? Cause 8pm Friday night would be 12am UTC....

Pay is Saturday thru Friday on SM?

I'm bad with numbers. I'm sorry. I just want to make sure what I wrote down on my sticky note to smack on my computer screen is 100% correct.

I think it's Sunday-Saturday? Like it ends on Saturday

euro_princess
06-01-2019, 01:36 PM
Compare Saturday midnight GMT with your time zone. That's when the week ends. At 23:59:59 GMT.
A new one starts at 00:00:00 GMT (Saturday to Sunday night).

izshadow
06-01-2019, 02:05 PM
I thought it was UTC. I'm so confused.

izshadow
06-01-2019, 02:06 PM
I think it's Sunday-Saturday? Like it ends on Saturday

I have no idea now. Obviously what I wrote down is wrong. Sigh. I hate math. I'm horrible at it.

euro_princess
06-01-2019, 03:14 PM
Just check at what time the last contest started and ended, you will know exactly when a day is done. From there, take the same hour for Saturday.

Or another way is to compare your earning time with your current time. You will see there are a few hours distance, because of the time zone.

SM works on GMT time. But the week starts on Saturday night to Sunday.

izshadow
06-01-2019, 05:28 PM
Okay for those on the east coast in the US, I finally got an exact answer that made sense to me!!!! LoL so here you go in case you were all confused to....

The schedule is Sunday through Saturday GMT. Sunday, 12am GMT would be 8pm Eastern Daylight Time on Saturday

SweetSouthernElle
06-01-2019, 07:37 PM
I was hovering at the top of page 4 earlier and now I'm halfway on page 3!!!!

anonamiss
06-01-2019, 09:24 PM
Every little helps so yeah, not denying money here u know.

I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. IMO, you should absolutely "deny money" if it's coming from something you don't want or like.

I block or kick guys all the time who are being assholes in private or even in free chat. I don't want their money if it means they feel entitled to treat me in a subhuman/garbage way. There are WAY better guys out there and you shouldn't get used to letting guys take advantage and do what they want "just for the money."

You have full agency here. Stand your ground, set boundaries, and attract/find customers who will respect you and whatever rules you choose to set. They exist and will make your life on cam so much more enjoyable. (Frankly, in my experience, just verbalizing the fact that you have boundaries is really attractive to a lot of quiet/rich types. If you portray yourself as someone who just takes any show for the money, it actually turns a lot of guys off.)

anonamiss
06-01-2019, 09:31 PM
Okay for those on the east coast in the US, I finally got an exact answer that made sense to me!!!! LoL so here you go in case you were all confused to....

The schedule is Sunday through Saturday GMT. Sunday, 12am GMT would be 8pm Eastern Daylight Time on Saturday

Yep -- I'm on the west coast/PST and I think of all my weeks/paychecks as "Saturday to Friday", because it effectively goes from 5pm Saturday to 5pm Friday each week. (4pm when daylight savings is in effect.)

KatM
06-02-2019, 12:00 AM
I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. IMO, you should absolutely "deny money" if it's coming from something you don't want or like.

I block or kick guys all the time who are being assholes in private or even in free chat. I don't want their money if it means they feel entitled to treat me in a subhuman/garbage way. There are WAY better guys out there and you shouldn't get used to letting guys take advantage and do what they want "just for the money."

You have full agency here. Stand your ground, set boundaries, and attract/find customers who will respect you and whatever rules you choose to set. They exist and will make your life on cam so much more enjoyable. (Frankly, in my experience, just verbalizing the fact that you have boundaries is really attractive to a lot of quiet/rich types. If you portray yourself as someone who just takes any show for the money, it actually turns a lot of guys off.)

I absolutely do what u said, i dont take any show just for the money, we were talking about cam2cam specifically that i dont deny their request in private chat cause often they might experience glitches that sends them in another room or main page and i loose them, it happened before when i asked to be taken exclusive for cam2cam or specific requests.
I never put up with offensive guys in free chat or paid chat, i have boundaries and demand respect in my room so that's not an issue but cam2cam is an option i offer in private because as i said, it happened to loose the guys due to glitches so if he is paying and enjoying himself in private i accept his cam request, is not a big deal for me as i normally don't have multiple viewers at a time.

KatM
06-02-2019, 12:16 AM
About the ending time for the week, there is a clock in our chat rooms that shows local time and if u hover over itwith the mouse it shows the GMT time, the week ends on Saturday at midnight at 23:59 GMT and starts sunday at 0:00 GMT, also there is one hour difference between summer time and winter time, now in summer the week ends later by an hour (solstice and equinox related).

Shanda1836
06-02-2019, 12:36 AM
GMT = Greenwich Mean Time. Either side of GMT time is + an hour westward or - an hour eastward, and that time increases or decreases with each time zone around the equator. Why Greenwich, England, is the standard for the whole world clock, I have not a clue.

Seattle based SM is 8 hours behind GMT. I am in Central Standard Time and six hours behind GMT. I am GMT + 6 hours. It is so confusing, that I may have my pluses and minuses backasswards, but y'all get my drift.

Because I am a historian, I know that when the railroads begin crossing the U.S., that is when time zones mattered to the times that the trains arrived and departed across our nation. At that time, that is when time zones in the U.S. became a standard.

Greenwich, England, is the world time standard for exact time zones in our digital world.

So the U.S. states, except for Arizona, participate in daylight savings time. So half of the year, I am GMT + 5 hours, and GMT + 6 hours the other half of the year.

For instance, in my time zone, CST time ends my SM weekly time at 7 p.m. every Saturday.

LullaBelle
06-02-2019, 01:15 AM
I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. IMO, you should absolutely "deny money" if it's coming from something you don't want or like.

I block or kick guys all the time who are being assholes in private or even in free chat. I don't want their money if it means they feel entitled to treat me in a subhuman/garbage way. There are WAY better guys out there and you shouldn't get used to letting guys take advantage and do what they want "just for the money."

You have full agency here. Stand your ground, set boundaries, and attract/find customers who will respect you and whatever rules you choose to set. They exist and will make your life on cam so much more enjoyable. (Frankly, in my experience, just verbalizing the fact that you have boundaries is really attractive to a lot of quiet/rich types. If you portray yourself as someone who just takes any show for the money, it actually turns a lot of guys off.)

I can't agree more. I have a mock 'screening process' before I accept any Privates or Exclusives from customers that I have never interacted with/done a show with before. I specifically state 'Please ask before taking for a Show'. If they take me directly to Private without interacting in Free Chat, I will politely let them know to interact with me previous to our show and tell me what they are looking for and then exit the session. Sometimes they come back and will do the same thing and take me back in to Private and I will tell them the same thing. If they repeat this behavior again after that, I block them because that shows me that they clearly have no respect for My boundaries as simple as that request is and can guarantee it will be a bad interaction. For the ones who do return, if they tell me that they want something I don't do/enjoy, I let them know that I appreciate their business however they will need to look for another lady who does offer those services. I screen so both Myself and the customer can have a good time.

I used to take any Privates or Exclusives before interacting and those have been a mixed batch of good and bad for both myself and the customers. I don't risk it anymore because I want to feel comfortable when performing. I would always get the 'make me cum bb' or 'get naked'. Firstly, I don't do vagueness as the 'make me cum bb' is a set up to fail as no matter what you do unless your pussy does a back flip, will not be good enough for this guys (4 star ratings and less!). Second, 'get naked' is a given however those types have proven to lack the appreciation of a good strip tease and want it fast and half assed. I have also noticed these types to be the ones who are never satisfied with how hard you fuck yourself because it's always 'harder. HARDER' and I am not going to destroy my body for your enjoyment. Nope.

Set your own personal boundaries and stick to them. I have been camming for a year and just in the past 3 months did I really find my own boundaries of what I know my strengths are and what type of shows/type of customers I will pass on. There is nothing wrong with turning down a show :) I recently (due to it being staggeringly slow) went against my better judgement and accepted a Private with a new customer who asked if I like dirty talk and I when I said yes, they immediately took me in to Private and then said 'come on' less than a minute in as I was stripping with dirty talk and then they demand 'ass'. I literally said, 'Well, I thought you wanted a nice dirty talk strip show but I see that you just want to rush and get a shitty show. So here's my ass (stands and turns around). *customer leaves* That deeply upset me for the rest of the day. Typically, I would have kicked this type of customer the second they said 'come on' because I despise rushing (I strip in less than a minute anyway so wtf dude) but because I compromised my boundaries I allowed someone to make me feel devalued and also broke my own code of professionalism.

So in short, make your own boundaries and don't compromise them just to make a buck because it can really fuck with you.

PixiieGirl
06-02-2019, 11:45 AM
jumping in on the convo, I do c2c in pvt, but I tell them when they request that Ill close it if another person joins - I rarely have more than one in pvt so it works fine for me

SweetSouthernElle
06-02-2019, 04:10 PM
Okay so I'm excited that I'm now at the bottom of page 2 but bummed that I haven't made any money yet. I shall wait