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anonamiss
08-03-2019, 02:13 AM
I need to get better about keeping track of my time streaming and what I made.

i just keep a small physical monthly calendar in my cam room, where I write down the time I started streaming, the time I logged off, and how much I made that day. i also double check my earnings right after a show to make sure I wasn't underpaid. (this has never happened to me personally, I just think it's good practice.)

Brizzy
08-03-2019, 05:35 AM
Is there a way to adjust cam settings in SMC
I'm using a Logitech c920 and few yrs ago my streams were crystal clear using the external SMB encoder.

Should I make setting adjustments in my cams software first?

KatM
08-03-2019, 10:14 AM
Is there a way to adjust cam settings in SMC
I'm using a Logitech c920 and few yrs ago my streams were crystal clear using the external SMB encoder.

Should I make setting adjustments in my cams software first?

Yes, the settings can be done only on ur cam software.

JGB2009
08-04-2019, 07:08 AM
Does anyone know how to mute the sound so the customers cant hear anything ?

Miss_ShaSha
08-04-2019, 07:49 AM
Does anyone know how to mute the sound so the customers cant hear anything ?

In SMConnect, hover over the lower right corner of your video stream & you'll see volume & mute.

Someone22
08-05-2019, 04:30 PM
Anyone know if I post a video for sale on SM, can I sell it on other clip sites as well? I’m guessing it wouldn’t be a problem but is that technically allowed? I’m just getting into clip making so I’d like to post the same videos on multiple sites.

NitaBaby
08-05-2019, 04:33 PM
Anyone know if I post a video for sale on SM, can I sell it on other clip sites as well? I’m guessing it wouldn’t be a problem but is that technically allowed? I’m just getting into clip making so I’d like to post the same videos on multiple sites.


You're allowed.

Here's the link to the Video Galleries page (https://streamatehelp.com/video-galleries/#toggle-id-8) that provides your answer.

Question: Can I post videos I upload to Streamate in other places?
Answer: We hope to be your first choice in selling and promoting your content, but we understand you may want to publish this content elsewhere. There are no restrictions on where you can post your videos.

gbjenna
08-07-2019, 05:16 AM
Can anyone possibly tell me how long it takes until I can increase my rates please? I understand new models have a rate limit, just wondering if there is a definitive answer as to how long it takes until that is removed. Thank you x

DeepThoughts
08-07-2019, 05:48 AM
^^ email them and tell them you want to put your rates up and they give you a larger range. Either email Support from the link on the bottom of your profile page OR email liz if you really need to get it done. :)

gbjenna
08-07-2019, 11:27 AM
^^ email them and tell them you want to put your rates up and they give you a larger range. Either email Support from the link on the bottom of your profile page OR email liz if you really need to get it done. :)

Thank you!! I'm happy with my exc rate for now, but I understand now why people put their pvt rate higher than their exc rate!

PixiieGirl
08-07-2019, 03:20 PM
phones available on SMConnect now apparently! https://streamatehelp.com/ring-ring-confidential-phone-service/

Sweet_Sadie
08-07-2019, 03:22 PM
phones available on SMConnect now apparently! https://streamatehelp.com/ring-ring-confidential-phone-service/

That was there on the classic platform. Does anyone use this? The phone feature. I'd like to, but it might/probably would ruin my phone character (that I use a content model for).

Sweet_Sadie
08-07-2019, 04:12 PM
Mmmkay...just had a dude in exclusive BEG me to cut off my hair and go bald. Had a sploosh dude. In lieu of food, he asked for bb oil, then cream lotion.

Mind you, I don't offer hair shaving or splooshing. I clearly state what I offer in my profile. WHY are they asking me to go bald and schmear myself? The lotion thingy was kinda fun, but he wanted me to dump it all out. I was like, uh, this is all I have. Imma need money for a new bottle. But I didn't feel like cleaning up.

ETA: Someone gave me a 1 star rating!!! But I also got a 5 star. Still, really, 1 star? Guess that happens. Makes their dicks feel stiffer, I suppose.

EvelynPink
08-07-2019, 11:02 PM
Funny, I've never gotten shaver dudes in my life and all the sudden I've had multiple ask me on SM. Something in the water over here...

Girly_Girl
08-08-2019, 08:53 AM
does sm have an affiliate program? Like if I get someone to sign up as a model kind of thing?

NitaBaby
08-08-2019, 08:56 AM
does sm have an affiliate program? Like if I get someone to sign up as a model kind of thing?


YES, here (http://streamaterecruiting.com/signup/).

Girly_Girl
08-08-2019, 04:36 PM
YES, here (http://streamaterecruiting.com/signup/).

thank u! Is it too late if they already signed up? I'm the one that told them about it. I know he used my aff link for daily pay tho

NitaBaby
08-08-2019, 04:51 PM
thank u! Is it too late if they already signed up? I'm the one that told them about it. I know he used my aff link for daily pay tho


I would probably email Liz to see but it LOOKS like your friend can still fill out that form since it asks for their "performer name". Her email is [email protected]

MissAliss515xx
08-09-2019, 10:28 AM
Does anyone here connect their phone on SM? Is it worth it?

Girly_Girl
08-09-2019, 04:26 PM
Does anyone know what the secret is to get to the top of the front page? I am being dead serious. I have been a cam model for sm for 5 years and I used to tell myself that I would get their eventually.....NOPE. I'm on cam 5 days a week and pretty sure I have more than 80 hours (not sure if they even factor that anymore) I'm at 5 stars, gaming laptop with i7, fast internet but only 11 mbs up (not sure if that's fast enough)but I also have 2 kids in the house that are always online too? Plus I split cam with 3 other sites in free chat and that's not counting my indie sites or nf. My rates on sm are 3.99 and 4.99

I mean what's the deal?

1. Is it my rates are too low?

2. Do I need even faster internet? ( just found out a couple of weeks ago that I can now get up to 30 gig up )

3. Do I need to change my hustle?

4. Do I need to lose weight?

5. Could it be that I'm staying on too many hours, like when its slow for example?

6. Has anyone else had shitty placement but finally worked their way to the top of the page? If so, what did you do to get there?

I mean I know damn well that its not because of my looks but I am bbw but I've lost 60 pounds and still need to lose about 40 more. Do I need to lose the weight? I just feel like I am missing the secret or something...lol. I really wished I would've taken advantage of my new girls status a long time ago and then maybe I would've been better off but I had geo turned on way back then not realizing it would fuck up my placement ;(

Also I've heard that, how much you convert into paying traffic matters but I can't control all the idiots that are just room hopping. I have literally seen guys run in and out of my room for 30 minutes straight!

Sorry for the vent but this has ALWAYS bugged me ;( Just feel so damn defeated some days ;(

Anyone feel free to pm if you don't want to post the answer here!

Sweet_Sadie
08-09-2019, 06:23 PM
Thanks, Nita. But I'm wanting to know about affiliate programs to get the dudes to sign up. New customers.

Erika_Xstacy
08-09-2019, 06:31 PM
Thanks, Nita. But I'm wanting to know about affiliate programs to get the dudes to sign up. New customers.

https://cambuilder.com/

or your cammodels link

Erika_Xstacy
08-09-2019, 06:32 PM
Does anyone here connect their phone on SM? Is it worth it?

yes it is worth it

NitaBaby
08-09-2019, 07:59 PM
Thanks, Nita. But I'm wanting to know about affiliate programs to get the dudes to sign up. New customers.

Ohhhhh I see. Your cammodels link starts with your Streamate username, followed by “.cammodels.com”

https://streamatehelp.com/cammodels/ tells you all about it.

MissAliss515xx
08-09-2019, 08:03 PM
yes it is worth it

And you call customers? You cam with them?

EvelynPink
08-09-2019, 08:48 PM
Hey so I got a potential new whale today but he hit his limit and was asking about an email exchange to go off site. Of course I told him that information was not allowed to be shared on SM but he could PM me so we could set up another show another time. He says ok cool good night, all good...but then this motherfucker PMs me his email address anyway!! #$%&#! I'm obviously not going to entertain that at all but what should I do? Will I get in trouble if I don't report the guy? also why are men?

DeepThoughts
08-10-2019, 05:39 AM
^^ What I do is send an email back telling them that the exchange of personal information is forbidden on the site and to please not send anything personal in the future or you will have to block him. I dont report it or anything cause like you I dont clients off site but I like to have an email back as a "paper trail" Just in case!

Then when you see him again just be all sweet and brush over it and if he pushes it just remind him that he can see you on SM so what is the big deal?? But most guys dont make an issue of it.

Erika_Xstacy
08-10-2019, 04:58 PM
And you call customers? You cam with them?
The member calls streamate and streamate redirects the call to us.. my phone rings as " streamatecalling"
The member does not have to use his webcam but yes do I cam with them too. the majority will run their webcam during the show

MissAliss515xx
08-10-2019, 06:33 PM
The member calls streamate and streamate redirects the call to us.. my phone rings as " streamatecalling"
The member does not have to use his webcam but yes do I cam with them too. the majority will run their webcam during the show

Thank you so much ! Like I dont want them to call me and Ask for cam when Im in my pyjamas lol. I may try this when I will start school and will open my phone while I watch my lectures at home lol.

pippapippa
08-10-2019, 06:52 PM
Thank you so much ! Like I dont want them to call me and Ask for cam when Im in my pyjamas lol. I may try this when I will start school and will open my phone while I watch my lectures at home lol.


SM phone only works when you're actively online.

laurielegs
08-10-2019, 09:38 PM
Thank you so much ! Like I dont want them to call me and Ask for cam when Im in my pyjamas lol. I may try this when I will start school and will open my phone while I watch my lectures at home lol.


SM phone only works when you're actively online.

Yeah, sometimes I wish I could turn on just the phone and just talk to some of my customers and not have to be sitting in front of my cam. I doubt that will happen though since SM focuses on cam.

euro_princess
08-11-2019, 04:22 AM
Hey so I got a potential new whale today but he hit his limit and was asking about an email exchange to go off site. Of course I told him that information was not allowed to be shared on SM but he could PM me so we could set up another show another time. He says ok cool good night, all good...but then this motherfucker PMs me his email address anyway!! #$%&#! I'm obviously not going to entertain that at all but what should I do? Will I get in trouble if I don't report the guy? also why are men?

I just ignore it. I once asked support about this precise matter and they told me black on white "it's not your job to supervise clients and you shouldn't feel obligated to report them for such matters". As long as you didn't ask for it, brush it off. You're not in control of what people send or do and if it's not illegal, don't waste your time or mind with it. I only report illegal activities (drugs, animals, possible fraud). Can't be bothered with more, cause SM is not paying me do their job as supervisor.

Sweet_Sadie
08-11-2019, 07:24 AM
Yeah, sometimes I wish I could turn on just the phone and just talk to some of my customers and not have to be sitting in front of my cam. I doubt that will happen though since SM focuses on cam.

^^^This is exactly why I keep my PSO accounts going. But my PSO accounts leave me with this problem:

I have an entirely different brand for my phone character than I do with my streaming character. And if I allow the SM guys to call me, then someone might recognize my voice, right? Or am I being paranoid?

Is it worth it to just take that risk? Because as it stands, I don't speak into the camera because my neighbors can definitely hear me (old apartment, thin walls, vents, etc). But if I could speak into my headset, then I can at least whisper, adding to the experience for those who want to hear my voice while streaming.

MissAliss515xx
08-11-2019, 07:37 AM
SM phone only works when you're actively online.

Ohhh ! Didnt understand that part either lol, ty!

Erika_Xstacy
08-11-2019, 03:39 PM
Does anyone know what the secret is to get to the top of the front page? I am being dead serious. I have been a cam model for sm for 5 years and I used to tell myself that I would get their eventually.....NOPE. I'm on cam 5 days a week and pretty sure I have more than 80 hours (not sure if they even factor that anymore) I'm at 5 stars, gaming laptop with i7, fast internet but only 11 mbs up (not sure if that's fast enough)but I also have 2 kids in the house that are always online too? Plus I split cam with 3 other sites in free chat and that's not counting my indie sites or nf. My rates on sm are 3.99 and 4.99

I mean what's the deal?

1. Is it my rates are too low?

2. Do I need even faster internet? ( just found out a couple of weeks ago that I can now get up to 30 gig up )

3. Do I need to change my hustle?

4. Do I need to lose weight?

5. Could it be that I'm staying on too many hours, like when its slow for example?

6. Has anyone else had shitty placement but finally worked their way to the top of the page? If so, what did you do to get there?

I mean I know damn well that its not because of my looks but I am bbw but I've lost 60 pounds and still need to lose about 40 more. Do I need to lose the weight? I just feel like I am missing the secret or something...lol. I really wished I would've taken advantage of my new girls status a long time ago and then maybe I would've been better off but I had geo turned on way back then not realizing it would fuck up my placement ;(

Also I've heard that, how much you convert into paying traffic matters but I can't control all the idiots that are just room hopping. I have literally seen guys run in and out of my room for 30 minutes straight!

Sorry for the vent but this has ALWAYS bugged me ;( Just feel so damn defeated some days ;(

Anyone feel free to pm if you don't want to post the answer here!

1. IMO w your years, you need to be min 4.99/6.99
2. I use spectrum Internet I cammed w the 400/20, did fine, i only upgraded bc Im not use to having low speeds. I lived in a bigger city w fiber optic but I use the 1g service now. no difference
3. I dont know your hustle ... I am more no fucks given, im selling pussy
4. only if you are uncomfortable. I dont see a need for it unless you are struggling to cam
5. yes, if you are not making money causing your hourly income to fall. downfall is getting lazy
6. yes, I cammed a lot bc I had to get known, used twitter w freebies but this was many years ago Id post nudes, ass spreads but now I post that crap on only fans and try to be nice to ppl on social media

conversions can be goldshows... any gold show, at any price
ive taken them for 25 no worries

anonamiss
08-11-2019, 04:03 PM
Does anyone know what the secret is to get to the top of the front page? I am being dead serious. I have been a cam model for sm for 5 years and I used to tell myself that I would get their eventually.....NOPE. I'm on cam 5 days a week and pretty sure I have more than 80 hours (not sure if they even factor that anymore) I'm at 5 stars, gaming laptop with i7, fast internet but only 11 mbs up (not sure if that's fast enough)but I also have 2 kids in the house that are always online too? Plus I split cam with 3 other sites in free chat and that's not counting my indie sites or nf. My rates on sm are 3.99 and 4.99

I mean what's the deal?

1. Is it my rates are too low?

2. Do I need even faster internet? ( just found out a couple of weeks ago that I can now get up to 30 gig up )

3. Do I need to change my hustle?

4. Do I need to lose weight?

5. Could it be that I'm staying on too many hours, like when its slow for example?

6. Has anyone else had shitty placement but finally worked their way to the top of the page? If so, what did you do to get there?

I mean I know damn well that its not because of my looks but I am bbw but I've lost 60 pounds and still need to lose about 40 more. Do I need to lose the weight? I just feel like I am missing the secret or something...lol. I really wished I would've taken advantage of my new girls status a long time ago and then maybe I would've been better off but I had geo turned on way back then not realizing it would fuck up my placement ;(

Also I've heard that, how much you convert into paying traffic matters but I can't control all the idiots that are just room hopping. I have literally seen guys run in and out of my room for 30 minutes straight!

Sorry for the vent but this has ALWAYS bugged me ;( Just feel so damn defeated some days ;(

Anyone feel free to pm if you don't want to post the answer here!

I have also been camming for about 5 years. I currently teeter around 10k favorites on SM. I'm curious, how many favorites do you have?

I used to be in the top two or three rows (sometimes top row) before I started geoblocking. Now, with geoblock on, new guys tell me they find me on the front page, but more like midway down or lower. I still make it work and get a lot of traffic. My secret is being super chatty with everyone in free chat. It tends to weed out the quickie demanding types and also attracts wealthier smart guys who can afford to go exclusive just to keep talking. Most of my shows are at least 5 minutes but more like 12+ on average. I have also amassed many 30+min block session regulars over the years.

Your rates are WAY too low. You should basically double them (at least 6.99/7.99). Personally I stay under double digit rates because I think there is a noticeable economic-psychological shift once a guy sees the number $10 or higher, but you should absolutely be charging at least 7.99 for exclusives.

I doubt your weight is an issue unless you come off as body-negative/insecure on cam. If you embrace your curves and show everyone you're a sexy confident lady, that will work wonders.

If I were you I would experiment with focusing on SM for at least a week. No split camming. My hustle would never work if I was splitting my attention across different sites/chat rooms. It pays off for me.

NitaBaby
08-11-2019, 04:23 PM
^hm. Didn't even see that question.

I hover between rows 2-4 on page one depending on who's logged in that day (the more really successful models logged on=me being a few slots down).

1. I'm fat. For my height and gender I'm not supposed to weight more than 150lbs. I had rolls when I DID weight 150lbs because my ideal weight is 130....I'm 190-something now. Nothing about it is attractive to me. But they still pay my fat ass to bounce on a dildo. So I wouldn't discount your ability to place well, make money, get regs, etc. on your weight. They love us fat bitches. Unless you have a personal issue with it or unless it's affecting your health, stay fat. I wouldn't lose not one pound for these hoes. Lose the weight for you but don't worry that it's costing you shows. BBW is a whole category for a reason.

2. I had geo-block on for the first 8 months of my camming 'career'. I've only been doing this for 12 months, almost to the day. So I feel it is safe to assume that it is not one of the things hindering you. New model status may help to bump you up in your placement if you're doing well but it won't keep you there if all of the other mystery factors aren't being met. And we tend to forget how hard it was holding that 'new model' tag. Freeloaders come out in droves to fuck with the new girls. So I wouldn't beat yourself up about under utilizing the new model thing. Not when you have to work so much harder at building regs, swatting the beggars, and defending your prices.

3. I'd raise your rates TODAY. I agree completely with Erika_Xstacy ...your minimum should be 4.99/6.99 - and I suggest that to new models. With 5 years behind you, 6.99/8.99 would be the new bare minimum but that may feel like too much of a leap for you right now. Please raise your rates. You even begin to attract better customers when you start getting expensive. It's so worth it. I was on the bottom of page one in the beginning of June, raised my rates to 6.99/8.99 and moved up 6 rows. I only say that because it makes me seriously believe that SM puts the more expensive models at the top (who are also able to get shows at those prices) which is also my attempt at answering your biggest question about moving up. I think the more you charge, coupled with the ability to SELL what you're charging, is a big factor in having higher placement. The change in my placement after charging more per minute happened by the time I logged on again the next day.

4. I can't say that I've ever converted a guy into a paying customer so I'm not too sure about how that factors into SM's placement strategy. I also figure that as long as your stream health is in the 'green' when using SMConnect then your internet can't be too much of a problem. I also don't know what your hustle is so I can't really offer my two cents on that one. But, my god, raise those rates.

Sweet_Sadie
08-11-2019, 06:25 PM
3. I'd raise your rates TODAY. I agree completely with Erika_Xstacy ...your minimum should be 4.99/6.99 - and I suggest that to new models. With 5 years behind you, 6.99/8.99 would be the new bare minimum but that may feel like too much of a leap for you right now. Please raise your rates. You even begin to attract better customers when you start getting expensive. It's so worth it. I was on the bottom of page one in the beginning of June, raised my rates to 6.99/8.99 and moved up 6 rows. I only say that because it makes me seriously believe that SM puts the more expensive models at the top (who are also able to get shows at those prices) which is also my attempt at answering your biggest question about moving up. I think the more you charge, coupled with the ability to SELL what you're charging, is a big factor in having higher placement. The change in my placement after charging more per minute happened by the time I logged on again the next day.


Shit, I just raised my rates, based on this! And I'm newish, so thanks for mentioning that you advise the new girls to get those rates up.

NitaBaby
08-11-2019, 06:36 PM
Shit, I just raised my rates, based on this! And I'm newish, so thanks for mentioning that you advise the new girls to get those rates up.

Aayyyeeee. That's what I'm talking about. Congrats!

Girly_Girl
08-11-2019, 07:34 PM
1. IMO w your years, you need to be min 4.99/6.99
2. I use spectrum Internet I cammed w the 400/20, did fine, i only upgraded bc Im not use to having low speeds. I lived in a bigger city w fiber optic but I use the 1g service now. no difference
3. I dont know your hustle ... I am more no fucks given, im selling pussy
4. only if you are uncomfortable. I dont see a need for it unless you are struggling to cam
5. yes, if you are not making money causing your hourly income to fall. downfall is getting lazy
6. yes, I cammed a lot bc I had to get known, used twitter w freebies but this was many years ago Id post nudes, ass spreads but now I post that crap on only fans and try to be nice to ppl on social media

conversions can be goldshows... any gold show, at any price
ive taken them for 25 no worries


I was gone for 4 months and seems like I lost a lot of regulars. When I 1st came back tho, everyone was like where have you been for the 1st 2 weeks to month. Or maybe its just from summer slow down? I looked in my books from last summer tho and I was making $2600 - $3000 just working 7 hours a day except for Monday and Friday. those 2 days I've always worked more hours. Now I am putting in way more hours just to get to $2600. So far this month has better a little better tho so far.

Every time I raise my rates my regulars bitch and then I get scared and lower them back down. I'm going to try raising them again tho and see what happens.

I've changed my hustle but I've got to where I say hi, ask how they are, then what are they in the mood for.....lol. they either tell me or they leave. Seemed like it was working better for a while before I left for 4 months...now idk

One reason I wanted to lose is because I am diabetic and I think if I lost I would be more confident in outfits but I've also seen that outfits don't make much difference. I would have more energy tho getting my weight down tho.

Girly_Girl
08-11-2019, 07:43 PM
I have also been camming for about 5 years. I currently teeter around 10k favorites on SM. I'm curious, how many favorites do you have?

I used to be in the top two or three rows (sometimes top row) before I started geoblocking. Now, with geoblock on, new guys tell me they find me on the front page, but more like midway down or lower. I still make it work and get a lot of traffic. My secret is being super chatty with everyone in free chat. It tends to weed out the quickie demanding types and also attracts wealthier smart guys who can afford to go exclusive just to keep talking. Most of my shows are at least 5 minutes but more like 12+ on average. I have also amassed many 30+min block session regulars over the years.

Your rates are WAY too low. You should basically double them (at least 6.99/7.99). Personally I stay under double digit rates because I think there is a noticeable economic-psychological shift once a guy sees the number $10 or higher, but you should absolutely be charging at least 7.99 for exclusives.

I doubt your weight is an issue unless you come off as body-negative/insecure on cam. If you embrace your curves and show everyone you're a sexy confident lady, that will work wonders.

If I were you I would experiment with focusing on SM for at least a week. No split camming. My hustle would never work if I was splitting my attention across different sites/chat rooms. It pays off for me.


I'm curious, how many favorites do you have?

only 2,700 ;( I usually do alot better when there's not a lot of girls on


You mentioned being super chatty, I type a lot so maybe that could be one problem. Whats the secret to getting 30 min blocks? lol

I seriously think that I'm making them cum too quick. I mean I do get the occasional long shows or guys that know how to last but I tend to jump into things way too quick too I think.

Girly_Girl
08-11-2019, 07:58 PM
I only say that because it makes me seriously believe that SM puts the more expensive models at the top (who are also able to get shows at those prices) which is also my attempt at answering your biggest question about moving up. I think the more you charge, coupled with the ability to SELL what you're charging, is a big factor in having higher placement. The change in my placement after charging more per minute happened by the time I logged on again the next day.

Never thought about that but that does make a lot of sense! I'm going to try raising them again.




I can't say that I've ever converted a guy into a paying customer so I'm not too sure about how that factors into SM's placement strategy.

I think I read somewhere here on the forums that placement was also based on how many guys you are able to convert into a paying customer, like how much of the traffic in your room into a paying cust if that makes sense.



I also figure that as long as your stream health is in the 'green' when using SMConnect then your internet can't be too much of a problem.




I also figure that as long as your stream health is in the 'green' when using SMConnect then your internet can't be too much of a problem.

I'm always in the green and see the message at the top of the screen that says " Awesome! Your last stream had priority placement."

My hustle is usually typing with some talking but over the past year or so I try to keep it to a series of questions....lol

Usually:

1. Hi...how are you?
2. What are you up to?
3. What are u in the mood for?

NitaBaby
08-12-2019, 05:57 AM
My hustle is usually typing with some talking but over the past year or so I try to keep it to a series of questions....lol

Usually:

1. Hi...how are you?
2. What are you up to?
3. What are u in the mood for?

I've kinda watched the page one girls for a while now and I've noticed a few things:

1. Great cam quality
2. They are always doing something (looking at their phone, talking to the room, drinking a little water, getting up, sitting down, going off cam for a minute, dancing, or all of these things). Only exception being the ones who's clear hustle is to sit and wait for these bastards to pay.
3. They charge more.

On page two I notice more (and I swear to god these are just observations - not a judgment on anyone who is on page two):

1. Couples just staring at the cam, waiting.
2. Girls zooming in on their crotch.
3. Girls typing on the keyboard.
4. Girls typing at you for a show the second you come in.
5. $15 Gold Shows
6. Clear "please talk to me" written across their faces, waiting on the guys to entertain THEM vs it being the other way around.

Page 3 and beyond either have a bunch of new models who have never streamed before, girls with bad cam quality, pussy in free chat, girls exclusively typing even though they have sound, or girls who should DEFINITELY be page one but they are doing ONE thing that is glaring.

In your situation, I would watch a few girls on pg 1 who either hustle like you and just pick apart what they are doing differently, down to the smallest detail. OR find a girl who hustles like you would like to and learn from her style.

minniesoporno
08-12-2019, 07:59 AM
I tend not to worry about who is placed where on a site. that is no indication of how much they have made.

it is just best to focus on your own goals and where you are at now and where you want to go next.

I could be on page 4 but I've hit my daily target which is something no one would know but me, and the site who pays me.

and with models blocking countries we really don't have a full picture of placement anyway.

NitaBaby
08-12-2019, 08:41 AM
it is just best to focus on your own goals and where you are at now and where you want to go next.



Fact. I'd be lying if I said you earn the same no matter where you are on the site but if you're making the kind of money that you want then to hell with placement.

PixiieGirl
08-12-2019, 10:37 AM
my placement has dropped a bit to page 2 due to having a lot of time off recently but tbh, Im trying not to let it bother me too much - I have shit internet so the fact I was ever page 1 at all is enough for me lol

Girly_Girl
08-12-2019, 11:02 AM
I've kinda watched the page one girls for a while now and I've noticed a few things:

1. Great cam quality
2. They are always doing something (looking at their phone, talking to the room, drinking a little water, getting up, sitting down, going off cam for a minute, dancing, or all of these things). Only exception being the ones who's clear hustle is to sit and wait for these bastards to pay.
3. They charge more.

On page two I notice more (and I swear to god these are just observations - not a judgment on anyone who is on page two):

1. Couples just staring at the cam, waiting.
2. Girls zooming in on their crotch.
3. Girls typing on the keyboard.
4. Girls typing at you for a show the second you come in.
5. $15 Gold Shows
6. Clear "please talk to me" written across their faces, waiting on the guys to entertain THEM vs it being the other way around.

Page 3 and beyond either have a bunch of new models who have never streamed before, girls with bad cam quality, pussy in free chat, girls exclusively typing even though they have sound, or girls who should DEFINITELY be page one but they are doing ONE thing that is glaring.

In your situation, I would watch a few girls on pg 1 who either hustle like you and just pick apart what they are doing differently, down to the smallest detail. OR find a girl who hustles like you would like to and learn from her style.

All very good points and ideas! thank you for this and I will definitely be studying the front page and the other pages now and taking notes now that you mentioned it! It's starting to make more sense now for sure!

Placement is so weird tho, cause when there is not a lot of girls on is usually when I have more traffic in my room but when there's like 1800 or more is when my earnings go to shit on sm. Seems like there are a lot more models than what there used to be 5 years ago when I first started too.

You've given me new hope!

Tigrillo
08-12-2019, 11:02 AM
hello everyone!

a question for those that have switched to epayservice: What to write down when they ask what kind of commercial activity I'm going to use the account for? I am having serious issues with Paxum and I'd like to have that alternative, but I don't know how to answer the question!! Just write "adult content"?? sales online?? what?

thanks and an excellent day to you who're reading this, let's get that bread!

Girly_Girl
08-12-2019, 11:12 AM
with models blocking countries we really don't have a full picture of placement anyway.

Never thought about that :(

It's not that I am so much worried about my placement but I am not making the amount of money I would like to be. I worked WAY to many hours last month just to make $2600. I was working my regular shift of 7 hours and then coming back for a few hours later that night and sometimes being on too late at night knowing that I had to be up early the next morning and it was hell!

When I 1st started out 5 years ago, I was working pretty much 12 hours a day but then right before I took a 4 month break I was making $2600 to $3000 no problem but since I've came back its like I've lost some of my good paying regulars. Plus Im not able to cam on Ifriends anymore (had a few good paying regulars there, and I dont even bother with Imlive anymore....lol )

Just tired of struggling money wise. I have a car that has 340,000 miles and is smoking and a house that has a leaky roof, needs painting , and a new kitchen floor. Sucks being broke and not able to fix anything. You get the point....lol

Hopefully things will start picking up again traffic wise next month too, I plan to hustle my ass off....lol

Girly_Girl
08-12-2019, 11:16 AM
my placement has dropped a bit to page 2 due to having a lot of time off recently but tbh, Im trying not to let it bother me too much - I have shit internet so the fact I was ever page 1 at all is enough for me lol

I have a gaming laptop and pretty decent internet ( 10 mbs up ) and can be anywhere from bottom of pg 1 to the 2nd pag. When I came back after a 4 month break, I was way off past pg 3 somewhere till I got back to 5 stars! It was torture....lol. I think the only thing that helped is a had all kinds of guys that missed me taking me pvt and asking where I'd been....lol

You will eventually go back to your regular placement, just hang in there!

Hope this isn't too personal but do u mind me asking what your rates are?