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temptingmodel
03-31-2013, 04:36 PM
nudity to SM is below the belt, open view. If everything is covered we are good. There is a old thread(s) on this but IDK when and where bc it is a topic fussed about all the time.
I think the rules say 'no nudity in free chat' or something like that, but then I've been told that topless in free chat is allowed. I can't remember exactly who it was that said this. Vanessa? Liz? I do know that SM will often tell models two different things, which is maddening...lol.

CummingCouple
03-31-2013, 07:59 PM
It says it can take 24 hours. We dont have it blocked since geoblocking probably doesnt work.
Is there a way to see how many guests are in your room, including those without an account?

Loving Streamate so far - although, yes, it is freeloader paradise. My goodness, there are the guys that camp out in your room just to wait until you go into private chat, so that they can have a free 30 second peek.

Then there are the lovelies, who love to chat etc, but never tip or take your private.Well, at least they are entertaining.

I have never been able to view my placement. First I had my country blocked so figured that was it.So I unblocked it and still could not find myself (whilst searching under a different browser) do you know why this is.

Thanks all!

CummingCouple
03-31-2013, 08:01 PM
I saw a couple in a gold show and her underwear were gone and they just kept reseting the timer. Is that allowed? Since its technically a free chat? No one tipped for them to come off or anything. I told her to read the rules again but they never listen.

Elysia36
03-31-2013, 08:29 PM
I am having issues with keeping guys in my room. I always try to smile and greet each person or do the chit chat to get them to talk, but most of the time they just pop in and leave without saying anything. Out of the 50 or so guys who pop in my room, I only have a handful that actually speak. I always assume that they don't like what they see when they come in, but I have no way of knowing that for sure.

temptingmodel
03-31-2013, 09:22 PM
^^ that is normal bb, no worries

my regulars stare at me like I'm baking a fucking cake for them w/out saying a word and I do say HI... men r stupid bb, well, the "kips" of the internet "chatting online with hot babes"

SarahTime
03-31-2013, 09:46 PM
I saw a couple in a gold show and her underwear were gone and they just kept reseting the timer. Is that allowed? Since its technically a free chat? No one tipped for them to come off or anything. I told her to read the rules again but they never listen.

You told her to read the rules again? See that's what I don't get is like why do you or anyone else feel like it's your place to tell other performers to read the rules? I'm not trying to be rude here but if you have time to try to regulate other performers rooms maybe just log on yourself instead and make your own money?

Worrying about what other performers do is wasted time and energy that you could be putting into your own hustle.

CammiStar
03-31-2013, 10:17 PM
You told her to read the rules again? See that's what I don't get is like why do you or anyone else feel like it's your place to tell other performers to read the rules? I'm not trying to be rude here but if you have time to try to regulate other performers rooms maybe just log on yourself instead and make your own money?

Worrying about what other performers do is wasted time and energy that you could be putting into your own hustle.

Exactly.This.

I love your posts, Sarah. You always say what I am thinking.

temptingmodel
03-31-2013, 10:41 PM
haha I assumed they where talking about themselves , I was so confused :D
You told her to read the rules again? See that's what I don't get is like why do you or anyone else feel like it's your place to tell other performers to read the rules? I'm not trying to be rude here but if you have time to try to regulate other performers rooms maybe just log on yourself instead and make your own money?

Worrying about what other performers do is wasted time and energy that you could be putting into your own hustle.

temptingmodel
03-31-2013, 10:57 PM
I will make a list of known TROLLS from SW on SM... would anyone like to sign up? Its free ;)

CummingCouple
03-31-2013, 11:39 PM
Ours wasn't working so I went into the host list to try and find us and clicked someone, they had nothing on their bottom. Nbd.

CurvyWinona
03-31-2013, 11:58 PM
I had couple "fellows from SW" came to my room. Last one asked me if I am on SW too and I said yeah. She/he didn't ask me any questions or anything like that. I was tipped 5 gold by that person. It was a nice gesture but I don't know why. Lol. Have u girls got that too? I just hope they didn't read my posts too closely. Haha.

temptingmodel
04-01-2013, 12:03 AM
sometimes it is a model. I USUALLY tip models and MOST do the same but have never asked or been asked online about this place

Weird? YES.
;)

I wouldn't worry about it , take a note on them and if they act crazy , hit the with the hammer.

MarleyCat
04-01-2013, 02:26 AM
A lot of models do that, and sometimes I see models showing even more than that in the Ebony section. Not badmouthing my fellow Ebony ladies...just saying that every time I visit that category, I see several 'naked w/dildo covering pussy' snapshot pics on the Ebony homepage. I don't know if I should send them a SM message from my member account, or just leave it alone. I'd hate to try to be helpful to the wrong girl, and then have her whine about me to her room ("This stupid fox bitch messaged me, trying to warn me about the rules, you guys!"). LOL. :P

ARGH!

This explains so much! I hadn't noticed it as much as any other section while I was looking through rooms but...argh, that kinda makes me upset. I don' t show anything for free (I keep about %65 - %80 covered) and I constantly tell guys, "If you want something, tip. There's no freebies in this room." It annoys me that they'll blatantly ask me to risk getting caught. Streamate is my bread and butter for right now, like hell I'll risk my job!

If I'm ever showing pussy in free it's completely on accident and please message me. I never give up the goods for free.

EDIT: Uh...I'm new to Streamate coming from MyGirlFund but are guys allowed to send you their email on SM? Or is it like MyGirlFund where sharing info like that is a no no?

He even asked for my twitter and facebook too...

I'd send him my twitter and blog but not anything else like that if I'm allowed. I'm for sure certain I can't send him my MGF account.

Mare
04-01-2013, 02:55 AM
I know that a lot of models will take off their panties when their Gold show is about to start, so they're actually panty-less for like a full 30 seconds in free chat. It's a risky move, in my opinion. I'm not even doing that 'ass flash with my arm covering the crack for 5 Gold' thing anymore either. From now on, the panties aren't sliding down at all unless the guy goes exclusive. That site is strict, and there's men and women who like screencapping shit.

I had to tell a friend recently that her pussy was showing in free chat, so she hurried up and put on panties. Streamate and ImLive are two cam sites you DON'T wanna be caught breaking the rules on, because they are strict.

I'm confuselled. We can't show ass crack? But we can wear a thong? Help. I don't want to get stripperweb roasted. LOL (Seriously. I thought it just can't be pussy or strip or asshole)

Mare
04-01-2013, 02:58 AM
Oh, but it is totally annoying to see blatant rule breaking. At least it's not as bad as MFC. But I never wonder why it's so hard to make $$ when I make the rounds and see multiple violations. But, all I do is just keep wishing they'd clean it up. I'm certainly not the indecency police.

MidnightLace
04-01-2013, 04:13 AM
Saw it all in free chat on SM the other night. A scat show or maybe a fake scat show with a vegetable popping out with the scat and then smearing it all over. Nothing hidden at all.

seller317
04-01-2013, 04:50 AM
Gross......

~Carmen~
04-01-2013, 05:37 AM
^^ that is normal bb, no worries

my regulars stare at me like I'm baking a fucking cake for them w/out saying a word and I do say HI... men r stupid bb, well, the "kips" of the internet "chatting online with hot babes"

Omg this is driving me crazy lately. Regs just sitting in my room, not talking and never tipping or taking me private.

kittykrane
04-01-2013, 06:56 AM
Saw it all in free chat on SM the other night. A scat show or maybe a fake scat show with a vegetable popping out with the scat and then smearing it all over. Nothing hidden at all.

I saw a couple in free chat, fellow was eating her ass out. You couldn't see anything, but it was obvious what he was doing. I don't mind the full nudity before gold show, as long as its done tasteful, legs crossed, etc...even though it is technically against the rules. It's enough of a tease to let the guys know you are ready, but they aren't seeing the goods. Lots of panty selllng going on too...

Mare
04-01-2013, 08:23 AM
Can the sm guys talk to each other in a separate lounge area like in mfc?

MarleyCat
04-01-2013, 08:26 AM
Is anyone else having trouble with sound?

It seems some guys can hear me and some cannot.

Then I did a gold show, completed it, and it's not showing up in my Recent Earnings at all. >_<

Grrr, Streamate get it togetherrrrrr

shysara79
04-01-2013, 10:01 AM
Yes it seems to be the norm on SM. Dudes wanting a gf not just a playing session. Annoying as Heck :) Smile BB Smile

LavishLivia
04-01-2013, 10:18 AM
EDIT: Uh...I'm new to Streamate coming from MyGirlFund but are guys allowed to send you their email on SM? Or is it like MyGirlFund where sharing info like that is a no no?

He even asked for my twitter and facebook too...

I'd send him my twitter and blog but not anything else like that if I'm allowed. I'm for sure certain I can't send him my MGF account.

Don't send him ANYTHING. AFAIK, outside contact is forbidden on SM. Tell him (as in, with your voice, preferably in private) to google you, but don't direct him anywhere or you risk being suspended.

temptingmodel
04-01-2013, 10:27 AM
did thye show up yet, I have seen it take up to 15 mins
Is anyone else having trouble with sound?

It seems some guys can hear me and some cannot.

Then I did a gold show, completed it, and it's not showing up in my Recent Earnings at all. >_<

Grrr, Streamate get it togetherrrrrr

JaneBurgess
04-01-2013, 10:55 AM
LOL at the bitter comment. I guess being able to make money without having my tits out or flashing pussy makes a performer bitter. Sorry hun but some of us can follow the rules and still do well. I have never flashed a tit, pussy or broke a rule on Streamate in five years. I also wasn't referring to you, but you must know you do it if you think I was posting about you.

I never understand performers who know the rules, yet feel they don't apply to them so they do what they want in free chat. Also performers don't sit in a room and wait to report someone. Many times the pic Streamate takes in free chat shows your nudity so another performer screenshots it. Everyone on here complains about the moochers, well they are on there because they get free nudity. They beg because some performers show all their shit for free.

I also saw that nudity because another performer posted the link on her Twitter and said this bitch is naked in free chat again, go check it out. I thought maybe she was just being a bitch, but there it was nudity and all. So yes, there are other American and Canadian performers that do monitor free chat. They will send in screencaps and no, they aren't bitter and a few of them are always in the top fours rows on Streamate. They are sick of the performers that break rules and attract the moochers to the site. You won't have to worry about them if you following the rules.




LOL You might be talking about me, I did that last night except it was an accident for the strip to show, I thought my tank was down far enough and I definitely didn't "rub my vag"... I COVERED my "vag"... maybe it wasn't me but I have a serious sneaking suspicion that you are referring to me.

I never understood models who complain about not making money, yet they sit in other models room and wait to report people. I mean, come on. There's not supposed to be in tits in free chat either, are you going to report every one of them too???

I've been panty-less in free chat covering up during at TV broadcast while the producer happily chatted back and forth with me about the guys in the free chat room. I think if they were going to suspend over being bottomless but still covering up, they would definitely do it during a TV show.

And by the way, I can and DO "make bank" while showing absolutely NOTHING in free chat, I happened to be in a VERY good mood last night and was a little more careless than normal. I rarely do the no panties but covered thing, and I rarely show tits in free chat. So don't attempt to discredit other people's success and minimize it to nothing but rule breaking just because you aren't enjoying the same successes. I like you and all Jane, I have nothing against you, but I think you are making yourself look a little bitter here.

JaneBurgess
04-01-2013, 10:58 AM
No you can't, that pic was approved. Check me out in free chat one day, you won't see tits out, pussy out or fucking myself with a dildo. Hell I don't even do Gold shows. You can still cam and have class about it. :)



LOL JANE! girl! your profile pic shows all nudity you just cant see your slit bb

JaneBurgess
04-01-2013, 11:02 AM
You aren't supposed to sit in free chat with your tits out, you can flash. You have to have panties on at all times. Streamate reposted the rules along with I think it was AW on Twitter a couple of weeks ago saying they were going to start reenforcing the rules. They and Liz all the stated you CAN NOT have your panties off ever in free chat. So just to be safe, check your panties on.



I think the rules say 'no nudity in free chat' or something like that, but then I've been told that topless in free chat is allowed. I can't remember exactly who it was that said this. Vanessa? Liz? I do know that SM will often tell models two different things, which is maddening...lol.

temptingmodel
04-01-2013, 11:05 AM
NO BB! lol I am saying I can see the landing strip NOT the slit. They approve these pics all the time.

No you can't, that pic was approved. Check me out in free chat one day, you won't see tits out, pussy out or fucking myself with a dildo. Hell I don't even do Gold shows. You can still cam and have class about it. :)

SarahTime
04-01-2013, 11:06 AM
Oh I forgot, not showing tits or anything makes you a better whore than the rest of us. You are classy because you don't show tits, use dildos or do gold shows, so the rest of us are what? Rule breaking trash? Lol come on now, who care how anyone else chooses to work? Focus on yourself and maybe you wouldn't be sitting on page what 3? Swearing to leave the site?

You are not better than anyone else just because you choose to work differently than another performer.

But whatever you have to tell yourself to make yourself feel better, I don't really care. :)

SarahTime
04-01-2013, 11:09 AM
You aren't supposed to sit in free chat with your tits out, you can flash. You have to have panties on at all times. Streamate reposted the rules along with I think it was AW on Twitter a couple of weeks ago saying they were going to start reenforcing the rules. They and Liz all the stated you CAN NOT have your panties off ever in free chat. So just to be safe, check your panties on.

Well I just got an email back from Liz and there is no issue with what I do unless I am blatantly showing pussy, which I have never done.

So for me, this conversation is over.

JaneBurgess
04-01-2013, 11:16 AM
Where did I ever say I was better? I'm not the one that goes on forums bragging about how well I do and then break the rules. No one was even talking about you, but you assumed it was about you. New performers post on here and they don't need to think you have to be topless or do Gold shows to make money. I do focus on myself, I am also on page two because I didn't work on the site for a few months. It won't be hard to get back on page one. If you want to be a bitch I can be one back.


Clearly you care because you got all bent out of shape. You won't have to worry if a posting was about you if you followed the rules. Just saying.



Oh I forgot, not showing tits or anything makes you a better whore than the rest of us. You are classy because you don't show tits, use dildos or do gold shows, so the rest of us are what? Rule breaking trash? Lol come on now, who care how anyone else chooses to work? Focus on yourself and maybe you wouldn't be sitting on page what 3? Swearing to leave the site?

You are not better than anyone else just because you choose to work differently than another performer.

But whatever you have to tell yourself to make yourself feel better, I don't really care. :)

JaneBurgess
04-01-2013, 11:18 AM
Yeah I know, I picked that pic. I figured since I don't get naked in free chat it was kinda like a sample pic. I change them around all the time, I get bored using the same one all the time.



NO BB! lol I am saying I can see the landing strip NOT the slit. They approve these pics all the time.

temptingmodel
04-01-2013, 11:24 AM
i do the same w pics
Yeah I know, I picked that pic. I figured since I don't get naked in free chat it was kinda like a sample pic. I change them around all the time, I get bored using the same one all the time.

temptingmodel
04-01-2013, 11:32 AM
I just received clarification that we can do what we have been doing and that if SM where to go back to the old rules, such as no nudity what so ever then we would be notified.

Hands over the pussy is OK AS LONG AS NO PUSSY IS SHOWN , it is NOT encouraged due to a hand slip , fingering etc , which is understandable.

If there are repeat exposures then YES a model is risking it.

TOPLESS is OK and always has been , if you want to stream the whole time topless, its all good

No pussy shots. Wide open , dildoing or fingering

TheBrownFox
04-01-2013, 11:36 AM
Can the sm guys talk to each other in a separate lounge area like in mfc?

No, thank God. LOL.

JaneBurgess
04-01-2013, 11:41 AM
Good to know I'm not the only one. Not sure why but I get bored with a pic after a week and change them around. I need to crop some new ones and upload them.



i do the same w pics

temptingmodel
04-01-2013, 11:46 AM
lol no they just use our free chat. I had a guy one time that introduced himself to others if he noticed them around a lot. His dumb ass would say things like "How long have you known her" "what are you doing tonight" "you must love her like I do"and when I was in GS or private , he would start convos in free chat w others waiting. TAlk about trying to keep a straight face while performing. I eventually closed all windows except private and eventually he was banned for it after a customer complained.
No, thank God. LOL.

SarahTime
04-01-2013, 11:57 AM
I just wanted to add that the rule is NOT "panties must be worn at all times in free chat"....

The rule is "no below the belt nudity in free chat".

I was a non nude model for years and by industry standards, bottomless but covering is effectively "non nude". It appears Streamate interprets it this way as well.

Mlle_Mystere
04-01-2013, 12:24 PM
My studio has a summary of the rules, and the wording they use is "no genitals or anus in free chat" if that helps. Personally, I think that wording is WAY better.

kittykrane
04-01-2013, 12:34 PM
My studio has a summary of the rules, and the wording they use is "no genitals or anus in free chat" if that helps. Personally, I think that wording is WAY better.
[email protected] NO ANUS, but it's pretty clear!

Mlle_Mystere
04-01-2013, 12:40 PM
Haha, I know, right?

roast
04-01-2013, 12:55 PM
My understanding is that the 'official word' for a site is usually our code of conduct. I personally care more about what is actually enforced on sites/what sites care about in reality so Im not siding with anyone, but officially we all agree to no nudity in freechat:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ytvc5d.jpg

ok, so gotta check the code of conduct and...

http://i50.tinypic.com/2aa0yty.gif


^the code of conduct used to say no below the belt nudity but on checking it a few months ago after someone pointed it out: it now says nudity period. Throughout the FAQ it stresses 'always follow the code of conduct', oer our contracts of how we agree to broadcast isnt the official word the Code of Conduct... not Liz?

The only place Ive seen now below the belt nudity on the model console is where it explains what GOLD is:

http://i50.tinypic.com/15wns5k.gif
(last line, but only appears under explaining what Gold is, not the code of conduct)


Liz may want to... update the Code of Conduct then?

:shrug:

DoodlebugBites
04-01-2013, 01:03 PM
Streamate's TOS used to be "no nudity below the belt," but it recently changed to just say no nudity in free chat, period.

"NO NUDITY IN FREE CHAT In order to prevent minors’ exposure to nudity and adult material we require there to be no nudity in free chat. Nudity is only allowed in age verified areas - also known as “private” or “paid chat”. Nudity in Free areas will result in temporary suspension of your account."

This is not directed at anybody. I just wanted to point it out because it did change in case anyone wasn't aware of it and is a rule adherer like me. I don't really care what anyone does because I can only control what goes on in my own chat room.

If someone is getting business by doing things that I won't do, then that business wasn't mine to begin with. Not every customer has to be my customer, you know?

roast
04-01-2013, 01:09 PM
IDK, this and the 'behind the wall' (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?169678-eep-broke-the-SM-code-of-conduct-twice) stuff and the 'system in place makes it difficult to record the shows' (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?179174-watermarking-on-SM&p=2421131&viewfull=1#post2421131) thing.... there are things posted sometimes where people say Liz said this, then no Liz said that, then actually Liz said, and so on and so on.... the Code of Conduct seems like the most straight forward way to interpret the rules?

Again, models I adore are topless and asscheeked all the time and Im not always fully dressed on sites that dont enforce no nudity rules, hey Ill push rules when I can - but often when Liz comes up I zone out bc sometimes the things said are true for some performers and less true for others and then there is there big communication discrepancy and so on and so on.... so for the rest of us shitmunchers lol the code of conduct says no nudity (at all) in free.

DoodlebugBites
04-01-2013, 01:14 PM
My understanding is that the 'official word' for a site is usually our code of conduct. I personally care more about what is actually enforced on sites/what sites care about in reality so Im not siding with anyone, but officially we all agree to no nudity in freechat:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ytvc5d.jpg

ok, so gotta check the code of conduct and...

http://i50.tinypic.com/2aa0yty.gif


^the code of conduct used to say no below the belt nudity but on checking it a few months ago after someone pointed it out: it now says nudity period. Throughout the FAQ it stresses 'always follow the code of conduct', oer our contracts of how we agree to broadcast isnt the official word the Code of Conduct... not Liz?

The only place Ive seen now below the belt nudity on the model console is where it explains what GOLD is:

http://i50.tinypic.com/15wns5k.gif
(last line, but only appears under explaining what Gold is, not the code of conduct)


Liz may want to... update the Code of Conduct then?

:shrug:

Whoops, sorry I did not see this before my post. You put it better than me! I am a scardey cat when it comes to breaking rules, so even if there are email okays from Liz to whomever, I never assume they apply to me.

If I got suspended from SM I would have to outfit my cam room with rubber walls.

shysara79
04-01-2013, 02:15 PM
My understanding is that the 'official word' for a site is usually our code of conduct. I personally care more about what is actually enforced on sites/what sites care about in reality so Im not siding with anyone, but officially we all agree to no nudity in freechat:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ytvc5d.jpg

ok, so gotta check the code of conduct and...

http://i50.tinypic.com/2aa0yty.gif


^the code of conduct used to say no below the belt nudity but on checking it a few months ago after someone pointed it out: it now says nudity period. Throughout the FAQ it stresses 'always follow the code of conduct', oer our contracts of how we agree to broadcast isnt the official word the Code of Conduct... not Liz?

The only place Ive seen now below the belt nudity on the model console is where it explains what GOLD is:

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(last line, but only appears under explaining what Gold is, not the code of conduct)


Liz may want to... update the Code of Conduct then?

:shrug:

Yes Clarification would sure be nice :)

SarahTime
04-01-2013, 02:32 PM
I agree, clarification and then enforcement by Streamate, not by the model police, of the the clarification would be nice. So now in one place it says "no nudity" and another "no below the belt nudity".

I did not know the code of conduct was updated to say "no nudity" so I guess that now means showing nipples or even taking your top/bra off at all is now "nudity" and therefore breaking the rules? Because by the interpretation of some, even a hand bra would be considered "breaking the rules" at this point.

The problem here is that "nudity" needs to be specified. Sure, "nude" to any vanilla person would mean topless, bottomless, etc. However, by typical industry standards "nudity" seems to mean SHOWING the goods. So therefore, you would still be "non nude" if you were topless or bottomless but covering the goods. That counts as "non nude" or "no nudity" in the adult industry.

Simply saying "no nudity" leaves it open to interpretation by each model. To me, bottomless but covering IS "no nudity" but clearly to others bottomless but covering is seen as "nude".

Based on my interpretation of the code of conduct when it said "no below the belt nudity", I am following all of the sites rules. I have absolutely zero desire to break the rules of the site that I adore. That is why I double check with Liz to make sure that I am not breaking the rules, and that's the only reason I bring her up is to say "Hey, I checked with someone who is not in standard support and I'm good to go".

MarleyCat
04-01-2013, 02:34 PM
did thye show up yet, I have seen it take up to 15 mins

Yeah it did. Whew!

Scared the crap out of me though. It took about 15 - 20 minutes to show up.

shysara79
04-01-2013, 02:38 PM
i agree, clarification and then enforcement by streamate, not by the model police, of the the clarification would be nice. ".


agreed :)

justanothercamgirl
04-01-2013, 02:48 PM
You know, we wouldn't bicker about Streamate half as much as we do if the site would just stick to and enforce its own damn rules.

Support tells us one thing, Liz tells us another and instead of questioning the site we instead just all turn on each other.

Just my two cents....

Wait, we don't have pennies in Canada anymore.

Here is 10 cents and you can keep the change. ;)