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minniesoporno
05-16-2020, 07:33 AM
This is a random question, but how much do the top models usually make on Streamate per month? And what is the average per hour for a non-top model on SM?
I do pretty well with Indy, but thinking of adding SM to the mix as it seems a good one with paying members.
You will never really know what other models make, and when there was postings of what others make it became a huge drama fest because people have personal issues around money.
So your best bet is to focus on your own goals. Yes there are models making thousands on the site. it's why streamate and other cam sites promote it that way.
Basically you are an independent contractor and the sites are only responsible for paying you when you have reached the threshold to be paid .
Susperia
05-16-2020, 08:10 AM
Is anyone else getting a sign in error right now or is it just me?
CamChik
05-16-2020, 08:18 AM
OMG - what is going on? I cannot log in. Keep getting told my password doesn't match, then tried the password reset twice and it kept telling me that was not a match either :(
I emailed support and am scared to death that I can't get back into my account. Is this a common issue for SM? How long do they normally take to respond? I have never, ever had this type of issue with a cam site.... Lots of others but never this one! :O
Susperia
05-16-2020, 08:20 AM
I can't sign in either. I'm all dressed up and ready to cam and then this. At least we know its a glitch, now I can breathe, was completly freaking out.
princess_casual
05-16-2020, 08:21 AM
Can anyone give me any advice re these situations please?
I only really used to do excl shows up until a couple of months back as my private rate was always higher than excl so I'm not so used to negotiating privates yet. Most of the time my privates have been fine but I seem to going through a phase where I'm getting 2-3 guys in private, and there's nearly always one being extremely domineering and trying to drive all the focus towards himself like it's a 1on1 and it's not only off putting for me, but I'm certain it's driving the other guys away sometimes.
In excl I have a no bullshit approach, so if they do start being dicks (which is rare) I have no issue telling them off, so it's up to them to either stay and cut it out or leave. If I start going off like that in a group show though I'm sure that'll kill the vibe just as quick!
I don't really want to just resort to immediately kicking them so I'm wondering if anyone can suggest a way to manage the situation before it gets to that point??
Secondly.. I'm having an increased number of people taking me private seemingly just for the purpose of clearing out my room lately. I've heard some models request the guys ask before going pvt/excl. Do you kick people who don't ask you first? Or do you just take the show as normal and see what happens/take it on the chin if they do turn out to be timewasters? It seems to be 50:50 when they don't ask, they either clear out my room and leave or they turn out to be great customers and stick around for 10-15mins sometimes!
I ignore bossy guys in private, personally. I make it clear in my profile that in private I direct the show. I also have a little blurb (basically a copy/paste of my private show description from my profile) that I will send out when someone joins private, so it's clear what to expect. With the exception of some simple requests (i.e. change of position) I will literally ignore any requests/demands and just be super enthusiastic about what I am doing. If you start getting annoyed, it will show and it will kill the mood. Just ignore and do your thing. If you find it hard to ignore it, switch the chat view to guest chat so you just see the private chat window flashing but don't see what they're saying.
DeepThoughts
05-16-2020, 08:21 AM
The difference between what the member spends and my cut... well, if they spend $1000, I get $300, and $300 is what shows up in my dashboard. Another model will get $350 and see $350 in their dashboard. I can't confirm that this is still true, but previously that model making $350 would rank higher in contests, even though every message we get explaining the contest rules state it's member spending that matters--I'm not sure they're actually calculating things that way. I realize that Boleyn gets that 5%, but that full 35% is not shown to me in my earnings on the site, and that has seemed to make a difference. So yes, it has seemed like I have to compete based on 30% vs 35%. I've messaged support and either Liz or Vanessa (can't remember, possibly both) about this for clarification, because obviously we can't see the numbers they're using to calculate ranking or overall earnings of anyone in that list, but I got no response. This is definitely based on the limited information that I can access, so like someone else said, don't take it as gospel. Other models I've talked to could have done their math wrong. I'd just like verification that they're calculating things the way they say they are. I did ask Katy from Boleyn at one point if she had any insight, and she told me they have no idea.
What I do know: it's harder to make $X in 25 hours or whatever they use for bonus weeks, even though I'm earning the site the same amount of money as someone else, since only my 30% that I see in my dashboard counts. At times I would have earned a higher bonus if it was calculated using the full 35% that they're actually paying out to me and Boleyn combined. Noticing this is what first made me wonder about whether they're using that number for ranking as well. (This could have been fixed at some point, as I have a vanilla day job and so haven't participated for ages, but something to watch out for.) Yeah, this is what I get for being paid out through a studio, I suppose, but still kind of stinks.
Well that is BS! I agree that you should be placed according to the 35% payout. That is what you made! The fact that you payout 5% for your payout system should have nothing to do with SM. I would be pissed
DeepThoughts
05-16-2020, 08:22 AM
I just managed to sign back in. Lets see if it sticks
Im in my dash board but I cant go live!
princess_casual
05-16-2020, 08:23 AM
Had the login error too- lasted about 10 mins but seems to be back.
CamChik
05-16-2020, 08:25 AM
OMG - what is going on? I cannot log in. Keep getting told my password doesn't match, then tried the password reset twice and it kept telling me that was not a match either :(
I emailed support and am scared to death that I can't get back into my account. Is this a common issue for SM? How long do they normally take to respond? I have never, ever had this type of issue with a cam site.... Lots of others but never this one! :O
Just saw all of your posts and found out on Twitter this is a "normal" issue especially during contests.... Still learning SM's quirks.... Le sigh..... At least I am breathing again!
gbjenna
05-16-2020, 08:27 AM
Oh god I came back off my break to see my account wouldn't let me in either! Cue panic!!! I'm back in now. I'll live another day hahaaa
SchwarzeSonne
05-16-2020, 09:59 AM
Well, I have been away for too long and you already discussed all the stuff :D But I grabbed some answers from your messages so thanks again.
And yes, tier 2 is a kind of "the part of models we don't mind to make some money on but you're too suspicious also" thing. Literally. Sometimes I really feel like they just found the way to cover chargebacks with model's "help".
sweetandnaughty
05-16-2020, 12:45 PM
I love the new smconnect. It works well for me even with shitty hotel WiFi. Lately I've been getting a boat load of the incest trolls and it's driving me crazy! If someone comes in with the name daddy in his handle I ban him asap and if they say hi mommy...blocked! Now when I go private or exclusive I send a message that says don't call me mommy or ask me to call u daddy or imwill stop the show and block you...every day I do this....ughhhh!! I'm venting..i even put in my room message incest chat and rp not allowed! Fucking morons....
Paradoxx
05-17-2020, 03:48 AM
Can I actually ask you guys about taboos on SM? Is it allowed or what?
Because I've been tipping around as a member for the past week since I've been toying with the idea of coming back now that I'm in my new place. I was almost certain incest/ageplay could get your account suspended when I was camming in 2018. I still had guys with it in their names or asking for it like the OP above, but I handled it similarly and blocked.
Lately I've been seeing top models (I mostly peruse the first page and tops of my categories) with things like "Mommy" and "Be my Daddy" written in their descriptions and everything. Not to mention all of the times I've heard it said on mic to their chats. Is this allowed now?
princess_casual
05-17-2020, 07:05 AM
Can I actually ask you guys about taboos on SM? Is it allowed or what?
Because I've been tipping around as a member for the past week since I've been toying with the idea of coming back now that I'm in my new place. I was almost certain incest/ageplay could get your account suspended when I was camming in 2018. I still had guys with it in their names or asking for it like the OP above, but I handled it similarly and blocked.
Lately I've been seeing top models (I mostly peruse the first page and tops of my categories) with things like "Mommy" and "Be my Daddy" written in their descriptions and everything. Not to mention all of the times I've heard it said on mic to their chats. Is this allowed now?
It is not allowed. "Daddy" doesn't necessarily mean father- calling guys "daddy" in a romantic/sexual way has been around since the 20's or earlier. Similar to how in latin cultures people will say "papi."
Paradoxx
05-17-2020, 07:09 AM
It is not allowed. "Daddy" doesn't necessarily mean father- calling guys "daddy" in a romantic/sexual way has been around since the 20's or earlier. Similar to how in latin cultures people will say "papi."
Oh I know about the "Daddy" pet name thing, but I thought the keyword was banned for us to use entirely? Like we couldn't write it in our room messages or hint at it at all? Or does it have to be a full incest-play type thing to be not allowed?
princess_casual
05-17-2020, 07:38 AM
Oh I know about the "Daddy" pet name thing, but I thought the keyword was banned for us to use entirely? Like we couldn't write it in our room messages or hint at it at all? Or does it have to be a full incest-play type thing to be not allowed?
As for as I know calling someone daddy is not banned. I thought incest wasn't allowed as it fell under "obscenity" laws but I was surprised to notice it isn't directly mentioned in the code of conduct. Idk if they changed it because I definitely read it in there before...
Personally I find it gross so I would never do it anyway, but if you really want to be sure maybe contact support and ask?
https://streamatehelp.com/performer-code-of-conduct/
ETA: https://twitter.com/realstreamate/status/782379962674262016
I think that settles that.
minibagel
05-17-2020, 08:15 AM
^Ya lots of guys have usernames with "daddy" in it and they also write it in privates so pretty sure it's not a banned keyword.
I didn't know incest was forbidden, I thought the only restriction was if ageplay is involved. I have always vehemently denied extreme ageplay when requested but I have done daddy/daughter and step-sister... oops?
minibagel
05-17-2020, 08:29 AM
Wanted to add I once saw girl's room topic explicitly say "incest roleplay ok", not sure if that means it's tolerated on SM but it obv wasn't a banned word.
I think "daddy" is just a trendy thing right now in modern porn and has been for a while actually. Guys like it bc it sounds dominant or as pet name like mentioned above, I like to believe most of them aren't interested in actual incest/extreme ageplay rp
SchwarzeSonne
05-17-2020, 10:44 AM
I saw at least 2 or 3 models with "taboo roleplay" in room topic or even on profile (the part that should be approved by support before appearing on a site). So looks like yes, you can do that kind of stuff if you personally okay with it.
Also it looks very interesting for me now since they told me bm and blasphemy fetishes aren't really nice things to do and I can get my account blocked. Yes, I asked support straight.
Like you can play a daughter/father but can't say "Give me your money or I'll send your pics to your wife" (even though I don't have any pics of a user neither his wife's an email). Isn't it amazing logic?
gbjenna
05-17-2020, 11:29 AM
^Ya lots of guys have usernames with "daddy" in it and they also write it in privates so pretty sure it's not a banned keyword.
I didn't know incest was forbidden, I thought the only restriction was if ageplay is involved. I have always vehemently denied extreme ageplay when requested but I have done daddy/daughter and step-sister... oops?
I don’t think we can do daddy/daughter cause that fits in with incest doesn’t it. I went through this forum months ago trying to do some digging and find out what was what and apparently someone had confirmation from support that we can do step family, just not actual family.
But I did wonder about ‘Daddy’ though. Is it allowed to call customers Daddy then? If it’s not referring to an incest roleplay? I’m not big on it but I get soooo many people asking me to call them that.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-17-2020, 11:47 AM
Incest, family play and pretending to be underage is not allowed. SM doesn't have a bot that goes through the site searching room topics. It probably would be a good idea if they did however. Anyone who have these things in their topics just haven't been caught yet. Blackmail is another word that they don't want used because it's illegal and could cause problems with credit card companies.
I'm not 100% sure if they scan words in your chat but I do know that they will test you in real time to see if you're breaking the rules.
gbjenna
05-17-2020, 12:03 PM
Incest, family play and pretending to be underage is not allowed. SM doesn't have a bot that goes through the site searching room topics. It probably would be a good idea if they did however. Anyone who have these things in their topics just haven't been caught yet. Blackmail is another word that they don't want used because it's illegal and could cause problems with credit card companies.
I'm not 100% sure if they scan words in your chat but I do know that they will test you in real time to see if you're breaking the rules.
Sorry just to explicitly confirm, that includes step family aswell right?
I think they must have something that blocks words in the chat as once or twice I’ve customers type stuff in relation to getting a show in free. which I’ve never got and then they’ve tried again and it never came through. So I assumed they were asking for something I can’t do and refused.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-17-2020, 12:08 PM
Sorry just to explicitly confirm, that includes step family aswell right?
I think they must have something that blocks words in the chat as once or twice I’ve customers type stuff in relation to getting a show in free. which I’ve never got and then they’ve tried again and it never came through. So I assumed they were asking for something I can’t do and refused.
I thought it included step family as well but there is a stepmom tag on the site. I'm gonna double check on that one.
kamiliam
05-17-2020, 12:25 PM
Pretty sure they have word blocking for certain words like Skype, but not other words like doggie( which I got last night and wasn't a misspelled position) I have often had scammers be incredulous that I am ignoring them, and when I call them out on what they are doing they admit it. So there are some safeguards in place. I use daddy in a non incest way and do step roleplays with no age play. Age play and some other terms really should imo be added to the banned words.
gbjenna
05-17-2020, 01:37 PM
^ in regards to the first question basically I just ignore the dominant one unless he is giving me tips and/or I have the sense that he will stay longer. If I acknowledge him it will be to tell him what he needs to do to get that attention. I actually get way more annoyed by the guys who jump in and want me to completely change what I am doing. These guys are usually not dicks but come on you joined a show in progress.
Secondly, I just roll with it. Privates move more slowly for me and I try to figure out what is going on in the beginning. Often I will get them to move exclusive while being paid to have them explain what they want. And like you I have found some great regulars from a pop in private. As for clearing the room, anyone who was serious about a show will come back.
I ignore bossy guys in private, personally. I make it clear in my profile that in private I direct the show. I also have a little blurb (basically a copy/paste of my private show description from my profile) that I will send out when someone joins private, so it's clear what to expect. With the exception of some simple requests (i.e. change of position) I will literally ignore any requests/demands and just be super enthusiastic about what I am doing. If you start getting annoyed, it will show and it will kill the mood. Just ignore and do your thing. If you find it hard to ignore it, switch the chat view to guest chat so you just see the private chat window flashing but don't see what they're saying.
Thank you both of you!! I tried that in a private yesterday and it worked. I don't really ask normally in private what they want as I don't take really take direction there, but he wanted me use toys so I managed to upsell him to exclusive. I'm going to try that all the time now!
I don't get annoyed as such, I think it's more that if they're being really excessively bossy and I'm trying to deal with them and cater for someone else at the same time, I start to give into the pressure a bit which again only helps the bossy one. I think I'll start switching to guest chat so I can just completely ignore them.
Carmel57
05-17-2020, 11:33 PM
For the last couple of days my stream has been awful on SM. Lots of people complaining it’s glitchy. My settings and everything looks fine and my stream on other sites is ok. I was only able to work a couple of hours al weekend which was frustrating because it felt like they potentially could have been good days. Anybody else having similar issues, I don’t know what to do to fix it.
fawnresponse
05-18-2020, 12:15 AM
For the last couple of days my stream has been awful on SM. Lots of people complaining it’s glitchy. My settings and everything looks fine and my stream on other sites is ok. I was only able to work a couple of hours al weekend which was frustrating because it felt like they potentially could have been good days. Anybody else having similar issues, I don’t know what to do to fix it.
omg is it not just me?! My stream has been TERRIBLE. My bitrate has been all over the map despite having a steady internet connection and a great computer and a newer camera. Other sites seem fine, but SM is a DISASTER. It's really messing with my morale and my vibe. :/ I'm hoping for a makeup week this week. I'm in my "new girl" status still so I'm bummed that it's messing with my ability to make money and take advantage of it.
Carmel57
05-18-2020, 12:33 AM
I’m glad it’s not just me then. I’ve never experienced it before on SM so it was a bit concerning.
omg is it not just me?! My stream has been TERRIBLE. My bitrate has been all over the map despite having a steady internet connection and a great computer and a newer camera. Other sites seem fine, but SM is a DISASTER. It's really messing with my morale and my vibe. :/ I'm hoping for a makeup week this week. I'm in my "new girl" status still so I'm bummed that it's messing with my ability to make money and take advantage of it.
Vogue
05-18-2020, 07:55 AM
Hi ladies, i need some help !!
does anyone know how the subscription plans works on streamate ? I made one published but is nowhere on my profile to be seen
MissAdriana
05-18-2020, 09:36 AM
Anybody else having similar issues, I don’t know what to do to fix it.
The last time I was on it was bad were you using Opera GX browser ? I don't think that's a good 1 to use. But I was having issues with chrome too so it's probably them. TBH every time we ever have any issue at all it's probably them doing things.
Anybody see how SM connect we now gotta click about 1000 checkboxes? OMG WHY isn't 1 enough ??
"did you read the code of conduct?" yes X boom done now fuck off, when is it gunna stop like don't make it easier for the models in any aspect whatever you do SM
SchwarzeSonne
05-18-2020, 09:58 AM
I have got some complains about glitches also. And yes, only on SM. 2 other sites work fine, no disconnects, video freezes, sound troubles etc.
PixiieGirl
05-18-2020, 10:08 AM
I thought step relation was fine on SM
also yeah daddy and mommy sometimes are just dominant names - I use daddy a lot and definitely dont mean father lol
maryberries
05-18-2020, 02:04 PM
Do any of you ladies know how to get customer support to respond in a timely manner or at all on Streamate? I am currently unable to stream and I've emailed liz as well as the random support email three times and haven't even received the automated "we received your message" response. If I can't stream this week, I can't really pay rent so it's kind of important. Thanks!
DeepThoughts
05-18-2020, 02:46 PM
^^ I dont do incest anything but I always use daddy with my sugar daddy types. Its not like father for me either its like when they call us baby.......They dont really want a baby!!
What do u guys think about the last bonus/contest events?
https://streamatehelp.com/two-10-bonus-events-and-a-week-long-contest/
PixiieGirl
05-18-2020, 03:08 PM
I actually like it! the 23rd is my partners birthday tho and so I'll likely take that and the 24th off and not make the bonus - but usually I think it'd be doable and nice!
WetWifeyNoelle
05-18-2020, 03:10 PM
What do u guys think about the last bonus/contest events?
I am sick and tired of contests, and I have not been back even a month!
^^^ ^^^ I was reading an interview on another forum with one of the top girls winning the big prize most of the time and i was amazed in a positive way by the way she conducts her business but mostly because she said "i never sit down in free chat, always standing and teasing", i assume she sits while in a show tho.
It came to my mind "tell this to my back lol" ->i barely manage 3-4 hrs shifts sitting cause of back pain.
Anyway, i am impressed same like i am impressed by any hot model doing a great job on cam, when u have a body that looks great and a face that attracts then nothing can stop u, she is an inspiration for sure and she is not very young, i mean she is older than me as she declares on site.
She said in the interview "i love the contests on SM".
Very good for her, for me, they kill all my traffic, i just hope i can pull out something from these 10% bonuses, we shall see.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-18-2020, 03:53 PM
Do any of you ladies know how to get customer support to respond in a timely manner or at all on Streamate? I am currently unable to stream and I've emailed liz as well as the random support email three times and haven't even received the automated "we received your message" response. If I can't stream this week, I can't really pay rent so it's kind of important. Thanks!
When was the last time you streamed on SM?
WetWifeyNoelle
05-18-2020, 03:56 PM
^^^ ^^^ I was reading an interview on another forum with one of the top girls winning the big prize most of the time and i was amazed in a positive way by the way she conducts her business but mostly because she said "i never sit down in free chat, always standing and teasing", i assume she sits while in a show tho.
It came to my mind "tell this to my back lol" ->i barely manage 3-4 hrs shifts sitting cause of back pain.
Anyway, i am impressed same like i am impressed by any hot model doing a great job on cam, when u have a body that looks great and a face that attracts then nothing can stop u, she is an inspiration for sure and she is not very young, i mean she is older than me as she declares on site.
She said in the interview "i love the contests on SM".
Very good for her, for me, they kill all my traffic, i just hope i can pull out something from these 10% bonuses, we shall see.
Good for her , she sounds like a hard worker. I can't lie , I do enjoy the contests its just that we just got over one. Its nice to have a bonus on top of what we already will be making .
^^^ I think it's 'contest season' on SM all the time now, wait for the summer then the autumn, then the winter, they'll never stop.
WetWifeyNoelle
05-18-2020, 04:06 PM
I remember now how contest happy sm is LOL
kamiliam
05-18-2020, 05:31 PM
What do u guys think about the last bonus/contest events?
https://streamatehelp.com/two-10-bonus-events-and-a-week-long-contest/
I'm happy they are splitting them into 2 different segments. I kinda wish they didn't overlap the contest. They are just trying to get all the anti contest models on to get the bonus, but I just feel like those will be a couple of really cutthroat, way too many model days. But I will be working them anyway
Blovely
05-18-2020, 07:05 PM
Hi ladies, i need some help !!
does anyone know how the subscription plans works on streamate ? I made one published but is nowhere on my profile to be seen
I don't remember what page it was but there was a few discussions on this. From what was said it doesn't show up on models profiles because its only available to select customers. We have no idea why they've decided to implement the feature this way (because we all know that it doesn't make sense). I'm assuming that the link only shows up to high paying customers.
gbjenna
05-19-2020, 05:20 AM
^^^ ^^^ I was reading an interview on another forum with one of the top girls winning the big prize most of the time and i was amazed in a positive way by the way she conducts her business but mostly because she said "i never sit down in free chat, always standing and teasing", i assume she sits while in a show tho.
It came to my mind "tell this to my back lol" ->i barely manage 3-4 hrs shifts sitting cause of back pain.
Are you allowed to share on here or in a PM the link for the interview, KatM? I’m really interested to watch it
princess_casual
05-19-2020, 05:28 AM
Sorry just to explicitly confirm, that includes step family aswell right?
I think they must have something that blocks words in the chat as once or twice I’ve customers type stuff in relation to getting a show in free. which I’ve never got and then they’ve tried again and it never came through. So I assumed they were asking for something I can’t do and refused.
Step family is not incest. A lot of porn titles reference "Step" siblings/parents as kind of a sneaky loophole.
PixiieGirl
05-19-2020, 05:31 AM
Step family is not incest. A lot of porn titles reference "Step" siblings/parents as kind of a sneaky loophole.
yeah most clip sites seem to just have you stick a step in front of it lol
WetWifeyNoelle
05-19-2020, 06:14 AM
Is anyone else losing their stream connection ?
anonamiss
05-19-2020, 12:33 PM
I got excited to see the bonus days but then read closer and see you have to stream at least 10 hours in two days. I haven't pulled a 5+ hour shift in ages, so I doubt I'm gonna get that bonus. Sigh. I don't recall if there was a minimum amount of time you had to work to get bonuses in the past - I just remember those rare 30% bonus weeks and being really motivated for those.
Also quite displeased that they are doing contests that accumulate the entire week now, instead of just your best three days... It's super discouraging for models who can't work long shifts every day. :/
JessRyan
05-19-2020, 03:12 PM
Hi ladies, i need some help !!
does anyone know how the subscription plans works on streamate ? I made one published but is nowhere on my profile to be seen
when I log in to my member account, I can see it below my topic. But I've heard only select members have access