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anonamiss
06-18-2020, 01:48 PM
Holy cannoli! It all makes sense now... 67 hours in one week is insane

yeah, this is the kicker, lol.

i sometimes average $100/hour or more, but i work a very minimal amount of hours a week. i used to think the models winning contests must be making like $1000/hour, when in reality a lot of them aren't averaging much more than i am -- they are just working ten times longer.

i envy and admire the models who can do this full time/40 hours or more. i can't handle it physically or mentally.

JessRyan
06-18-2020, 02:21 PM
LOL the only time I'm motivated to work streamate 25 hours is when I may have a chance at a little bonus. I just don't have the privacy to work more than that. I would if I could though. My hat's off to these girls who can put in the hours & time it takes to win a contest.
I just set realistic goals and so I'm happy when I exceed them. My best days have been during contests when I'm feeling "lucky" in a pumped up good mood, but the funny thing with those days, I made the cammodel bonus (which doesn't count toward contest) but it really helps when it's a 40% bonus and a long exclusive. Oh well money is money.
When the contests first started there was one week I thought to myself I'd get on early and work as much as I could without loosing too much sleep and I placed better than I thought I would. And I didn't kill myself.
My reasoning is, okay, you work yourself to death all week with no sleep for a good bonus/prize but then you loose the next week cuz you're too tired from the week before. hehehe
so, I'll just work at least 25 hours and make $1000 and be happy with an extra $100 And NOT be too tired for next week. That's just me ;-)

KatM
06-18-2020, 05:00 PM
^^^ What i saw in this thread, the picture with the money that model made, omg, just insane amounts every day! Add to that a $5k prize for the 1st place in the contest and everything makes sense.
They take the next week off and go on a vacation lol.
Cant wrap my mind over that money, it makes total sense SM is giving such prizes if models can make that much money... i'll have money related nightmares here from now on LOL.
"If i cant do it doesent means nobody can" -> new meme for me ;)

JessRyan
06-18-2020, 05:51 PM
^^^ What i saw in this thread, the picture with the money that model made, omg, just insane amounts every day! Add to that a $5k prize for the 1st place in the contest and everything makes sense.
They take the next week off and go on a vacation lol.
Cant wrap my mind over that money, it makes total sense SM is giving such prizes if models can make that much money... i'll have money related nightmares here from now on LOL.
"If i cant do it doesent means nobody can" -> new meme for me ;)

oh I hear you. 67 hours! That girl WORKED! Funny thing, I just remembered I have the whole house to myself the next 3 weeks, so maybe I'll stock up on Red Bull and see what I can do. ?? The covid virus has had me in the house with family when I usually have days to myself to freely cam. So maybe I should take extra advantage of the next few weeks. I may do...70 hours!! Never say never!!!

JessRyan
06-18-2020, 05:56 PM
oh and it seems that Liz reads this thread, so I'd like to make a suggestion. Okay, when I upload videos to MFC Share I can make a custom watermark that easily and automatically, over-lays all my videos. It SO NICE ;-) built right in to the uploader. it's my MFC name too.
so, I'd love it the video manager/uploader on Streamate could do the same. AND when you use SMC to record your privates, wouldn't it be so nice to have auto-overlay of your cam-name? Or have it as an option for the model?
so very nice ;-)

anonamiss
06-18-2020, 06:22 PM
I was trying to add if up based on previous year but they've changed it. I think the average I got was $87,000 per contest paid to models in prizes


^^^ What i saw in this thread, the picture with the money that model made, omg, just insane amounts every day! Add to that a $5k prize for the 1st place in the contest and everything makes sense.
They take the next week off and go on a vacation lol.
Cant wrap my mind over that money, it makes total sense SM is giving such prizes if models can make that much money... i'll have money related nightmares here from now on LOL.

it's interesting to do a little math here -- if the top models are making nearly 10k in a week their cut, then that means SM is taking in about 20k their cut. so (in a super simplistic way - not accounting for all of their other expenses) SM only needs like four or five girls making that kind of money to be able to pay out all of the contest prizes. then add the money that 2000+ other models are making that week. even after you factor in the costs of running the site, I think it's safe to assume that SM is bringing in a shitload of money during the contests, and the cost of the prizes is chump change compared to what they earn from all the models combined.

also, a fair amount of the top models seem to be outside of the US/western countries, and work in studios. so i also wonder if what we saw in that screenshot wasn't even a 30 or 35% cut. if it was like, a 20-25% studio cut, that is even more insane.

and yeah, 10k is nearly two months worth of income for me when i'm hitting my regular goals... if i had the energy and motivation and mental capacity i would absolutely work a 60 hour week and then justify taking at least a week off. it actually sounds like a great way to make a high income and also have tons of down time. it just takes very determined people in very specific circumstances (like, no kids or anyone else in the house, and also the emotional/physical/mental capacity to do cam work for such extended time) to achieve.

minibagel
06-18-2020, 06:59 PM
and yeah, 10k is nearly two months worth of income for me when i'm hitting my regular goals... if i had the energy and motivation and mental capacity i would absolutely work a 60 hour week and then justify taking at least a week off. it actually sounds like a great way to make a high income and also have tons of down time. it just takes very determined people in very specific circumstances (like, no kids or anyone else in the house, and also the emotional/physical/mental capacity to do cam work for such extended time) to achieve.


I would say if you are interested in making big money super fast so you can have lots of down time, try MFC! It’s mostly a tip based site so there is literally no ceiling for earning potential. You could easily make $1000/hr there. I’ve seen girls get tipped $25,000 (500,000 tokens) in one single tip. I was never a top 20 girl, more like top 200– I averaged $10k/month in about 30-35 hours total all month. Best month ever was almost $19k in 80 hrs total all month. MFC is mostly a social, public chat room-based site so a totally different type of hustle than pvt based like SM, there is a lot more traffic and freeloaders. I haven’t been in the right headspace for about a year and a half now to deal with the competition and performance anxiety, but I am hoping to make a return.

anonamiss
06-18-2020, 07:25 PM
I would say if you are interested in making big money super fast so you can have lots of down time, try MFC! It’s mostly a tip based site so there is literally no ceiling for earning potential. You could easily make $1000/hr there. I’ve seen girls get tipped $25,000 (500,000 tokens) in one single tip. I was never a top 20 girl, more like top 200– I averaged $10k/month in about 30-35 hours total all month. Best month ever was almost $19k in 80 hrs total all month. MFC is mostly a social, public chat room-based site so a totally different type of hustle than pvt based like SM, there is a lot more traffic and freeloaders. I haven’t been in the right headspace for about a year and a half now to deal with the competition and performance anxiety, but I am hoping to make a return.

that is super cool and encouraging to hear that you did so well with such little time put in :) i have been debating trying MFC for years. i've been on SM for almost six years at this point exclusively, minus a few indie clients.

my biggest gripe with MFC is that everything seems to get recorded, regardless of any precautionary measures you take. the only time i ever found my SM stuff on a tubesite was because i wasn't using geoblock, and because whitelabels were recording and posting my shows, which is allowed. once i turned geoblock on and got all my videos around the web removed (shout out to Liz for her DMCA help!), i have not found another recording since. but with MFC or CB, it just seems like it is inevitable that your entire stream will be recorded by a bot and then uploaded somewhere with your name attached, and unfortunately that gives me an insane amount of anxiety. also, i am 100% not comfortable with doing anything nude in public chat, so i don't know how much that would be a detriment to me.

i do think i have the personality for a token site though. in fact i've been told by a lot of dudes on SM that i'd fit in well over there, because i'm super chatty and do random goofy things for tips in free chat on SM already. plus my regs on SM all "know each other" at this point, so it's definitely got the camaraderie of a token site room. but another issue is i'm not super fit/skinny, which seems to be the aesthetic that most girls who get huge tips or make a lot of money on MFC have. i think i have a pretty face but physically i'm just sort of an average, squishy, potato-next-door, haha.

i dunno, maybe i'll reconsider it again. my mental health has been shitty during all the pandemic/shelter-in-place, so anything that can potentiallly lead to maximum earnings with minimum screen time is worth a shot.

edit: minibagel i sent you a PM with some questions because I didn't want to hijack the SM thread with MFC questions :)

bigbum
06-18-2020, 09:51 PM
The question has already been answered. They have to cover their ass if something bad happens due to the model being fucked up. But plenty of people in lots of Careers drink a little while working. I guess I am curious why it is so concerning for you? I don’t like that I work really hard to blend my eyeshadows but then I see someone killing it with only some shitty thick black eyeliner. But that is their vibe and hustle. Models also advertise their social media in their topics, some get busted.

The code of conduct states to not be under the influence of drugs and alcohol and any violation of that could result in termination of the account. But how if you are working remotely how do you determine that, by not being a mess and not advertising that you are drinking. Anyone who has that in their topic either doesn’t know any of the rules or has weighed the risks.


For many who work the typical North American night schedule you will find that many of your customers are drinking and just like dating it is sometimes easier to make a connection if you are both drinking. I have drank on cam and sometimes it was fun and sometimes it lead to shitty performances. I do not drink at all let alone on cam because it didn’t help me. For some it does, we are adults and Sm is not our boss making sure we didn’t have a beer at lunch. We are independent contractors who need to understand the agreements we sign and their consequences.

Models do get in trouble when they over imbibe. Typically because they pass out or a customer/ models looking to get people in trouble report them.

i just sometimes really want a cup of wine to get me through. not every day just once and a while.. and i just always felt i needed to hide it sip away from the cam.
when i was on token sites customers love to buy me drinks as part of my show. but i guess sm isnt the right place for that.
but yeah.. not worth it to get me banned.
thanks for the info kawilliam!

KatM
06-19-2020, 07:05 AM
I was looking at some models today while bored cause the lack of traffic, i notice there are models who constantly move (touch themselves, show body, make sensual gestures, so on) and people who do nothing unless tipped or taken pvt;
i am the 2nd type, i dont move, tease or show anything unless i am tipped or taken to pvt. this comes from the times when there was no freechat and i did not have to lure the guys in but by typing. is this good or bad?!
i mean i'll feel weird to do stuff w.o being paid for but this could explain the constant in and outs in my room?
Has SM turned into a token style site due to the tipping features?
Maybe people come in, see there is no action and leave cause of this, can it be? while in other rooms they see the models doing something, anything; i am puzzled myself of why some rooms are busier than the rest but if i think better, even when i show myself, flash tits, show ass for tippers and the room fills up the non tippers still leave at a point w.o tipping or taking me pvt. therefore i assume they wont tip/ take me pvt anyway if they dont like me or dont want to spend so why bother to do things differently? but i am maybe wrong?! how do u guys manage ur room, are u constantly moving/ doing things or wait to be tipped/ taken to pvt to perform? ty xx

Ambercat
06-19-2020, 08:12 AM
I do absolutely nothing for free but I've set my stand up/flashes very low on my tip menu. I've found most people who tip are just checking things are where they're meant to be before going into a show. Other than that I just chat to the people who are polite and ignore the ones who are trying to talk dirty for free, usually I encourage them to come for a show and then boot them if they continue be obscene in free.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-19-2020, 08:26 AM
I was looking at some models today while bored cause the lack of traffic, i notice there are models who constantly move (touch themselves, show body, make sensual gestures, so on) and people who do nothing unless tipped or taken pvt;
i am the 2nd type, i dont move, tease or show anything unless i am tipped or taken to pvt. this comes from the times when there was no freechat and i did not have to lure the guys in but by typing. is this good or bad?!
i mean i'll feel weird to do stuff w.o being paid for but this could explain the constant in and outs in my room?
Has SM turned into a token style site due to the tipping features?
Maybe people come in, see there is no action and leave cause of this, can it be? while in other rooms they see the models doing something, anything; i am puzzled myself of why some rooms are busier than the rest but if i think better, even when i show myself, flash tits, show ass for tippers and the room fills up the non tippers still leave at a point w.o tipping or taking me pvt. therefore i assume they wont tip/ take me pvt anyway if they dont like me or dont want to spend so why bother to do things differently? but i am maybe wrong?! how do u guys manage ur room, are u constantly moving/ doing things or wait to be tipped/ taken to pvt to perform? ty xx

There's always some one watching you even if you can't see the member name. That's something people should keep in mind when you're just sitting there. It never hurts to change up your routine especially when what you've always have done is no longer effective. You don't even have to do flashes if you don't want to, but maybe try getting up and moving around could help. I entertain myself first and that seems to get the engagement going. We have lots of threads about this:

https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?207590-The-cam-girl-hustle-(2016)

https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?199789-how-to-get-more-paid-chat-in-streamate

https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?150777-Ways-To-STALL-and-Make-More-Money

LizzyMe
06-19-2020, 08:28 AM
I usually sit so they can see from my face down to the top of my panties, occasionally I flash my long legs, seduce them with subtle body language and my eyes, I smile, say Hello, make a little conversation, and focus on them. I wait to get tipped to show something off of my tip menu. When I move around, touch myself, show more of my body they start asking to see more of me for free and some guys just sit and watch and anticipate for me to do more. I get more shows being seductive in a subtle way rather than be overly sexual during free chat.


I was looking at some models today while bored cause the lack of traffic, i notice there are models who constantly move (touch themselves, show body, make sensual gestures, so on) and people who do nothing unless tipped or taken pvt;
i am the 2nd type, i dont move, tease or show anything unless i am tipped or taken to pvt. this comes from the times when there was no freechat and i did not have to lure the guys in but by typing. is this good or bad?!
i mean i'll feel weird to do stuff w.o being paid for but this could explain the constant in and outs in my room?
Has SM turned into a token style site due to the tipping features?
Maybe people come in, see there is no action and leave cause of this, can it be? while in other rooms they see the models doing something, anything; i am puzzled myself of why some rooms are busier than the rest but if i think better, even when i show myself, flash tits, show ass for tippers and the room fills up the non tippers still leave at a point w.o tipping or taking me pvt. therefore i assume they wont tip/ take me pvt anyway if they dont like me or dont want to spend so why bother to do things differently? but i am maybe wrong?! how do u guys manage ur room, are u constantly moving/ doing things or wait to be tipped/ taken to pvt to perform? ty xx

euro_princess
06-19-2020, 08:37 AM
As you girls are interested in some insights, I will provide my POV.
$10k will barely get you top 5 or a little shy of it, let that sink in. First 7days contest, I placed top 10 and I made a couple hundreds over 8K. Second 7days contest, I pulled around 7K and again, I placed top 10 (between 5 and 10, that’s what I mean).
So I would imagine, knowing how big the difference is between spots (sometimes even 1K), top 3 girls make 12-15K per week. Now, don’t imagine those models manage to score such numbers every week, cause nobody pulls that type of effort all the time, day by day (10-12-15h). I would only assume, they average around half in a normal week, or 60-75% of those high earning contest weeks.

Keep in mind, both the cut from that screenshot and mine are 2nd tier, so 30% (I do know that model). Independent girls make with 18% more, 1/5 extra.

In a best 3 days contest I would normally get top 5 with 5K. But they haven’t run that type of competition in a few good months.

Hope this answers your questions for how profitable contests are. Hell of! Tho, for most high earners is a game of ego, they like to show off.

MissAdriana
06-19-2020, 08:39 AM
Maybe people come in, see there is no action and leave cause of this, can it be? while in other rooms they see the models doing something, anything; i am puzzled myself of why some rooms are busier than the rest but if i think better, even when i show myself, flash tits, show ass for tippers and the room fills up the non tippers still leave at a point w.o tipping or taking me pvt. therefore i assume they wont tip/ take me pvt anyway if they dont like me or dont want to spend so why bother to do things differently? but i am maybe wrong?! how do u guys manage ur room, are u constantly moving/ doing things or wait to be tipped/ taken to pvt to perform? ty xx

I constantly move and I think it's good and bad. It's bad because I'm exhausted easily and getting the last 10 or 15 more is super tiresome, and if my connection sucks that day the users will see your cam pixelate like crazy every single time you move.

KatM
06-19-2020, 11:21 AM
Ty for input ladies, looks like there are two type of approaches while camming, unfortunately my setup here does not allow me to move around as i cam on a not very spacey sofa and need my desk close by as i type on the keyboard and dont talk in free.
I had to give up camming on my squeaky bed cause the neighbors could hear me and complained to building admin, in bed i had more space to move around but as i said, i cam at night and that was too noisy here.
Also, with my back problems i really feel better to sit in a comfy position than to break myself apart moving around and getting all tired and sweaty (early menopause side-effects i can barely manage).
Looks like both approaches are used so it's not a bad thing to do what i do, i also dont want to encourage freeloading but i guess i have a bitch face or bored face i show in between smiles.
The point is, with the delay we have for the video stream, the guys see me smiling after a few secs so 1st they see when entering my room is my resting face.
Well, i can only know how it is for me, the constant ins and outs are puzzling me, i dont know why they dont talk, they just check me up and leave, of course some will stay, talk, tip or take me to pvt but many wont?! I guess i ask for too much that everyone likes, tips and pvt's me lol.
It felt the same while working in retail, i wanted all shoppers would buy and whey they did not, i was pissed. I need to understand that only a portion of visitors will buy but it's hard cause this is playing with my self esteem, i start to question myself here.
Ty again for input xx

PixiieGirl
06-19-2020, 11:35 AM
I sit still personally, I talk and interact in that way and Ill move about sometimes but usually not

moneybags
06-19-2020, 08:01 PM
Ty for input ladies, looks like there are two type of approaches while camming, unfortunately my setup here does not allow me to move around as i cam on a not very spacey sofa and need my desk close by as i type on the keyboard and dont talk in free.
I had to give up camming on my squeaky bed cause the neighbors could hear me and complained to building admin, in bed i had more space to move around but as i said, i cam at night and that was too noisy here.
Also, with my back problems i really feel better to sit in a comfy position than to break myself apart moving around and getting all tired and sweaty (early menopause side-effects i can barely manage).
Looks like both approaches are used so it's not a bad thing to do what i do, i also dont want to encourage freeloading but i guess i have a bitch face or bored face i show in between smiles.
The point is, with the delay we have for the video stream, the guys see me smiling after a few secs so 1st they see when entering my room is my resting face.
Well, i can only know how it is for me, the constant ins and outs are puzzling me, i dont know why they dont talk, they just check me up and leave, of course some will stay, talk, tip or take me to pvt but many wont?! I guess i ask for too much that everyone likes, tips and pvt's me lol.
It felt the same while working in retail, i wanted all shoppers would buy and whey they did not, i was pissed. I need to understand that only a portion of visitors will buy but it's hard cause this is playing with my self esteem, i start to question myself here.
Ty again for input xx

I found my super positive even if they don’t spend work for me.

Panthera
06-20-2020, 12:46 AM
Different prices on different whitelables of sm??
I just had a guy telling me that peeking at my ass was 8 euros, while I had it set at 7 gold on my Gold Menu. I told him it should actually about 6 euros (7 dollars is something around 6 euros) and he said he was on Slutroulette and it was showing 8 euros. I think this sucks.... I am still getting the same amount but they are charging the members more??

Dahlia Fallon
06-20-2020, 02:25 AM
It would be the same for him on streamate. It's different prices for different countries because of the different rates of VAT. The increase ranges from 17% (Luxembourg) to 27% (Hungary). 20-25% is the most common. Its the same for per minute rates also.

PixiieGirl
06-20-2020, 03:04 AM
yeah they've added VAT so it'll be that

DeepThoughts
06-20-2020, 03:48 AM
oh I hear you. 67 hours! That girl WORKED! Funny thing, I just remembered I have the whole house to myself the next 3 weeks, so maybe I'll stock up on Red Bull and see what I can do. ?? The covid virus has had me in the house with family when I usually have days to myself to freely cam. So maybe I should take extra advantage of the next few weeks. I may do...70 hours!! Never say never!!!

Girl order yourself some CoQ10. Its good for your health but also it boosts your energy!! Im taking 600mg for fertility but the normal does is 200-300mg per day and your energy will go up!! I started last week and I already have more energy. Just wish I could find 10 hours in my day to cam. Right now Im hustling to pull 8 a day but Im always getting cut short cause my husband wants dinner or someone needs to do the dishes!! I swear when I saw what she was making at 67 hours a week I was like I just need one week where I dont have to do anything but cam and I could take the rest of the month off!!

naomi_doll
06-20-2020, 06:35 AM
I wonder if working a ton of hours then take time off would work well for anyone, or just girls who have an established presence on the site.

JessRyan
06-20-2020, 05:04 PM
I was looking at some models today while bored cause the lack of traffic, i notice there are models who constantly move (touch themselves, show body, make sensual gestures, so on) and people who do nothing unless tipped or taken pvt;
i am the 2nd type, i dont move, tease or show anything unless i am tipped or taken to pvt. this comes from the times when there was no freechat and i did not have to lure the guys in but by typing. is this good or bad?!
i mean i'll feel weird to do stuff w.o being paid for but this could explain the constant in and outs in my room?
Has SM turned into a token style site due to the tipping features?
Maybe people come in, see there is no action and leave cause of this, can it be? while in other rooms they see the models doing something, anything; i am puzzled myself of why some rooms are busier than the rest but if i think better, even when i show myself, flash tits, show ass for tippers and the room fills up the non tippers still leave at a point w.o tipping or taking me pvt. therefore i assume they wont tip/ take me pvt anyway if they dont like me or dont want to spend so why bother to do things differently? but i am maybe wrong?! how do u guys manage ur room, are u constantly moving/ doing things or wait to be tipped/ taken to pvt to perform? ty xx

Oh that all depends on my mood. If I'm feeling extra flirty and energetic, I'll do my teasing. But at my age LOL i have to pace myself when working a long day. I do try to keep a smile on my face & say "hi"

JessRyan
06-20-2020, 05:08 PM
Girl order yourself some CoQ10. Its good for your health but also it boosts your energy!! Im taking 600mg for fertility but the normal does is 200-300mg per day and your energy will go up!! I started last week and I already have more energy. Just wish I could find 10 hours in my day to cam. Right now Im hustling to pull 8 a day but Im always getting cut short cause my husband wants dinner or someone needs to do the dishes!! I swear when I saw what she was making at 67 hours a week I was like I just need one week where I dont have to do anything but cam and I could take the rest of the month off!!

haha, I blame it on menopause. But I'll try it, I really will. One day I'm bouncing off the walls, the next I'm dragging myself on the floor. Any advice is appreciated.

bigbum
06-20-2020, 09:37 PM
i am in my late 20s and did only 2 hours and 30 mintoday and i am about to literally pass out i am so tired.
it just beats me up so bad i cant do more than 4 hours. or more than 19 hours a week.
i have hypothyroidism so i have low energy but .. should be able to do more.

how much do we need to break the top 200 models for a week long contest? to win something.. lol

KatM
06-21-2020, 06:41 AM
^^^ I too have hypothyroidism plus menopause effects and am same like you, cant do more than 4 hrs. I am 45 yo.
On top of it i have back pain and other health issues.
The sweating and temperature fluctuations are killing me, no matter the weather i sweat and even more since hysterectomy surgery 3 years ago.
Do u take any pills for ur tyro? I take Eutyrox 50, one per day and the doc recommended me Estroplus which is an american product and kinda pricey here, i took it for 3 months then stopped for a while and again now and then, i feel it helps, need to buy more.

Esixxx
06-22-2020, 12:07 PM
Is anyone having issues on SM today?

My bitrate is garbage. Ran a speed test and it's running about the same as usual

XSelinex
06-22-2020, 12:46 PM
Is anyone having issues on SM today?

My bitrate is garbage. Ran a speed test and it's running about the same as usual
My bitrate and RTT is red.

TrifilinCamHo
06-22-2020, 01:50 PM
Is anyone having issues on SM today?

My bitrate is garbage. Ran a speed test and it's running about the same as usual

Yes, the site is sooooo fucked up today jesus christ. In addition to bitrate error I'm pretty sure I'm just not showing up as online for the majority of my shift so far and I got tons of 'user connection issue' names leaving my room. It's brutal.

AcidYellow
06-22-2020, 03:02 PM
Im not having any tech problems today, only ZERO traffic...or freeloosers wanting free shit. I hope my room gets the usual traffic as before. 2 weeks where Im in the forgotten spot on Streamate... well well...

CamChik
06-22-2020, 03:14 PM
Is anyone having issues on SM today?

My bitrate is garbage. Ran a speed test and it's running about the same as usual

YESSSSSSS :mad: This same exact thing always happens to me on contest days..... shit bitrate - speedtest is dead sexy.... or privates with no vid/sound, etc...

My SM guys are getting used to tracking me down on other sites whenever there is a SM Contest because the glitches kill boners.....

CamChik
06-22-2020, 03:28 PM
haha, I blame it on menopause. But I'll try it, I really will. One day I'm bouncing off the walls, the next I'm dragging myself on the floor. Any advice is appreciated.

I'm 2.5 years into this Meno-fuckthishit-pause and I've finally broken down after trying to control this on my own and am starting bio-identical hormones per my Naturopath Dr's orders.

Camming is hard enough without this shit..... My breakdown was caused by cramps (like I'm having a bad period) 3 days BEFORE my period starts, then my period for 6 mother fucking days, then 3-4 more days of cramps.... I just lost 2 weeks on cam because the thought of putting ANYTHING in my vag was too much....

Maybe find a good Dr and try to get some help with balancing everything - I'm probably going to do the pellet method with an oral Progesterone. I'm waiting on my lab results atm...

My Dr told me 2,000 mg of Fish Oil
5,000 of D3
Glucosamine/MSM combo with Turmeric is also very helpful...

She said to try to eat as much Omega 3's and green leafy veggies as possible. Also, I've started drinking "bulletproof coffee" Coffee, Ghee (clarified grass fed butter) and an MCT powder with collagen to help my skin firm back up.. This stuff is SO good and gives me a good burst of CLEAN energy - This week is the first in years that I haven't had to nap between all 3 of my 3 hour shifts.....

Esixxx
06-22-2020, 04:03 PM
I'm 2.5 years into this Meno-fuckthishit-pause and I've finally broken down after trying to control this on my own and am starting bio-identical hormones per my Naturopath Dr's orders.

Camming is hard enough without this shit..... My breakdown was caused by cramps (like I'm having a bad period) 3 days BEFORE my period starts, then my period for 6 mother fucking days, then 3-4 more days of cramps.... I just lost 2 weeks on cam because the thought of putting ANYTHING in my vag was too much....

Maybe find a good Dr and try to get some help with balancing everything - I'm probably going to do the pellet method with an oral Progesterone. I'm waiting on my lab results atm...

My Dr told me 2,000 mg of Fish Oil
5,000 of D3
Glucosamine/MSM combo with Turmeric is also very helpful...

She said to try to eat as much Omega 3's and green leafy veggies as possible. Also, I've started drinking "bulletproof coffee" Coffee, Ghee (clarified grass fed butter) and an MCT powder with collagen to help my skin firm back up.. This stuff is SO good and gives me a good burst of CLEAN energy - This week is the first in years that I haven't had to nap between all 3 of my 3 hour shifts.....

That sounds brutal- I am thinking I might need to get some lab testing done.

The last year or so my menstrual cycle has been brutal. Didn't realize that menopause could have that affect.

gbjenna
06-23-2020, 02:03 AM
Has it ever been a thing for people to do gold shows, except with a higher buy in amount, say between like 20 to even 30 gold so they have a smaller amount of guys in the show?

I can definitely see the appeal and benefits of gold shows but I usually see people doing them at say, 3-6 gold buy in, 10 being the max I've seen and honestly doing a 6min show at that rate with loads of customers at once doesn't appeal to me. I'm not really massive on private's with a group of guys tbh unless the they stay quiet/don't try to dictate, I always majorly prefer going exclusive and being 1on1.

I'm just wondering if there's any way I could try and work them in a way to suit me or whether I should just steer clear like I am doing.

princess_casual
06-23-2020, 07:01 AM
Has it ever been a thing for people to do gold shows, except with a higher buy in amount, say between like 20 to even 30 gold so they have a smaller amount of guys in the show?

I can definitely see the appeal and benefits of gold shows but I usually see people doing them at say, 3-6 gold buy in, 10 being the max I've seen and honestly doing a 6min show at that rate with loads of customers at once doesn't appeal to me. I'm not really massive on private's with a group of guys tbh unless the they stay quiet/don't try to dictate, I always majorly prefer going exclusive and being 1on1.

I'm just wondering if there's any way I could try and work them in a way to suit me or whether I should just steer clear like I am doing.

I almost never do gold shows, but when I do it's 10 buy in. I'm the same as you- I prefer intimate shows. Can't hurt to try, I think it would definitely be best if you also sell videos. Most girls I see doing big gold shows sell vids for 25+ Gold each so customers get a show and video.

princess_casual
06-23-2020, 07:50 AM
Yes, the site is sooooo fucked up today jesus christ. In addition to bitrate error I'm pretty sure I'm just not showing up as online for the majority of my shift so far and I got tons of 'user connection issue' names leaving my room. It's brutal.

Was the same for me yesterday and today too... so many complaints about sound and video, Bitrate and RTT is all over the place. So frustrating.

JessRyan
06-23-2020, 09:46 AM
Gold Shows are an enigma to me. After all these years I still can't figure them out. LOL what an inexpensive way to see a show, but my room usually sits there & I get bummed. A real cock blocker. I've had a few successful ones, but that happens due to one or 2 guys tipping extra. (I charge 10 gold for a 8 min show. Anal at the goal and my goal is $200 & everyone gets a video if we reach the goal.)
Strange. Then I'll see a model have an amazing buy in!!!!!!!!!! hahaha, I just don't get it. Camming is fickle like that.
"Gold Show?" is the kiss of death in my room.

CamChik
06-23-2020, 10:20 AM
That sounds brutal- I am thinking I might need to get some lab testing done.

The last year or so my menstrual cycle has been brutal. Didn't realize that menopause could have that affect.

It does - perimenopause SUCKS!

*sleep issues
*anxiety
*hot flashes
*weight gain
*tired AF with no real reason to be
*migraines (used to get MAYBE 1-2 a year now I get 3-4 every MONTH)
*periods heavier and more painful and in general jacked up - I've had 8 day periods 2 weeks apart, 3 day periods 4 weeks apart, 5 day periods 3 weeks apart etc... My period tracking app is so confused it just tells me every single day that I MAY start my period LOL
*PMS 24/7

JessRyan
06-23-2020, 10:35 AM
^^ thank goodness the periods are over. ;-) I have't had one in about a year now. Hey, but I thought of something. Streamate has that silly schedule thing, but it doesn't show up on your profile anymore!!! I actually like to use it, cuz of endless messages asking about my schedule. Wish they'd add it again so I can put in on my profile.
AND speaking of messages, I like the Pay per view or even tip to send mail option...I WISH streamate had. Would be nice if a model had the option of requiring a gold tip to open messages. Hey, you can message me, but tip 3 gold to get me to open it. Would motivate me more $$$

KatM
06-23-2020, 04:08 PM
I dont know where SM or affiliates promote us/ me but all i get is very young broke guys with no money who think i am on cam to chit-chat, they have no clue its a cam site, they expect to be a dating site or social media, wtf?!
Converting this traffic is impossible and my regulars are nowhere to be found this week again like in any contest week, i am pissed! :(

CamChik
06-23-2020, 04:15 PM
I feel ya, had the same experience this morning, chatty and not much tipping - I went from 47% paid time last week to now like maybe 11% - not going to kill my stats for this shit. I need to make a game plan for contest weeks... this sucks.....

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-23-2020, 04:25 PM
Has it ever been a thing for people to do gold shows, except with a higher buy in amount, say between like 20 to even 30 gold so they have a smaller amount of guys in the show?

I can definitely see the appeal and benefits of gold shows but I usually see people doing them at say, 3-6 gold buy in, 10 being the max I've seen and honestly doing a 6min show at that rate with loads of customers at once doesn't appeal to me. I'm not really massive on private's with a group of guys tbh unless the they stay quiet/don't try to dictate, I always majorly prefer going exclusive and being 1on1.

I'm just wondering if there's any way I could try and work them in a way to suit me or whether I should just steer clear like I am doing.

I use to offer gold shows with $25-$50 buyins. It wasn't a regular hustle but something I'd do to get me to a goal. Once the show started I'd keep hitting them up with more add-on content for tips etc.

Lots of people do this, it just may not look like it if they're not doing it for the entire shift. If no one chipped in I'd just say something like alright guys... I tried to work with your pockets. Oh well, back to the ppm rate it is!!! I didn't want to be known as the failed gold show bb.

AcidYellow
06-23-2020, 04:47 PM
I dont know where SM or affiliates promote us/ me but all i get is very young broke guys with no money who think i am on cam to chit-chat, they have no clue its a cam site, they expect to be a dating site or social media, wtf?!
Converting this traffic is impossible and my regulars are nowhere to be found this week again like in any contest week, i am pissed! :(

Same boat. 2 weeks plus this one running trying to convert these guys and nothing. Usually my good weeks are the first and last one of every month. Lets hope next week is our week.

MsJess
06-23-2020, 06:19 PM
This site is so freaking weird, all of a sudden is great and i get good guys spending, the next hour is dead AF not a single soul, the next it's full of beggars, WTF?

XSelinex
06-24-2020, 01:02 AM
I have a question, I'm in the studio from start and I thought that 30% payment instead 35% is a total cut from streamate and studio get a 5% from this amount. So indy models had 35% and studio models had 30%.
But today I heard from other model that streamate pays 35% no matter if a from studio or not.
Who is right, I who thought for many years 30% for studio model or her who claims that streamate pays for all, studio and indy models whole 35%?

euro_princess
06-24-2020, 03:06 AM
Different studios have different cuts, not all do 5%, some do less (I know an example of 2%) and some do more (10%). SM has no say in the agreement between studios and models. They just pay 35% for western models and 30% for eastern models and from there, the studio deducts the %.

Edit: Not all studios receive a special admin account with the preferred cut. I’be heard of studios that have the model cut set for less, but pay more if they reach certain targets (for example, let’s say a model has her account set to 75% of 35%, but after hitting a certain target, her studio pays her 90% of 35%). In the end, the admin account shows the full commission.

roseforarose
06-24-2020, 07:12 AM
I was wondering what everyone's opinion on tip menu items are? I had flash boobs up there....but then realised guys were just using it to see my tits right before they cum, rather than going private *facepalm*. But I can't decide if its better to have one or not?

I'm making almost nothing on SM right now soo

KatM
06-24-2020, 08:53 AM
^^^ Some shifts all I get is tips and no privates, I have the tip menu on, guys like to tip but they won't join a Pvt cause they maybe can't because they are in a hurry, at work, whatever. If I didn't ask for tips to flash tits or whatever they wanna see and is allowed I wouldn't make shit this week like in any contest week. Leave it there, if they wanna join Pvt they will, if not they won't no matter what you do.

CamChik
06-24-2020, 10:36 AM
Has anyone tracked the consistency of when SM does these damn contests? Like, how often are they? 2 full week contests in one month is a bit much....

Going from $500-$600 days to maybe breaking $100 is bullshit.....